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Agreeing with a person and truth is another

Posted By: ??? on 2006-06-08
In Reply to: At least one soldier doesn't - agree with you.

You can't explain why you think it's illegal so you continue to quote deserters and anti-war activists. Typical. You'd argue with the paint on the wall if you didn't like the color.


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I was agreeing with you.
I was saying that all these scandals are mostly perceived wrongs that have never been proven and most likely never will be, much as the liberals are wearing out their abacus keeping tally.
I am agreeing with you!
I am not disagreeing with you. I said my daughter's looks just like the one they say that Obama produced that most people are still saying is a fake. And I know the one we are holding is not a fake!
hey--I was agreeing with you.
I don't like either one to be honest.
Oh yes, definitely, I am agreeing with you, goes to OP! :-)....nm
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You mean reasonable as in agreeing with everything you say. sm
Because I have seen plenty of reasonable on here and you treated them REAL well.
I think you are wrong about a lot agreeing. sm
The numbers are dwindling daily. Someone from Great Britain made the movie you are talking about. Get your facts straight before you post something like that. We do NOT condone killing of any kind. I do want to see Bush tried for treason as do millions of others, but in a court of law.
Agreeing to disagree...
What if someday someone decides that along with abortion, you should have a right to choose whether or not to kill yourself (we are already going down that road with assisted suicide). Then whether or not to let the government euthanize you if they decide you are no longer a productive citizen. Or euthanize the retarded. Or euthanize the disabled. They are already doing it in Holland. This stems from much more than my faith. It is a fact that when the sanctity of life at any stage is eroded, when we begin as a people to decide some are allowed to live and some are not, that individuals have the right to decide that for other individuals (as a mother does when she chooses herself over the child), some have value and some do not, some have souls and some do not, it leads to more and more moral degradation, until the moral compass gets all twisted, and that creates a climate where one madman can make thousands of people believe it is right to kill millions because they are inferior, not human. Pardon me if I do not want to see that happen again. You are told to do in other ways...you are told not to steal. You are told not to kill. You are told not to commit adultery. There are a great many things you are told not to do. Why is this one thing that you are being told not do cause so much more grief than all the other things you are told not to do?
agreeing to disagree is fine ...
But it never seems to stop there. I don't own a gun and probably never will. I don't think anyone should, but I do believe it is their right and I would never fight to try to take that away. That is agreeing to disagree.

I believe in a woman's right to chose, you don't. I respect that (that is why it is a choice), but when people starting trying to take that choice away from me, that is not agreeing to disagree, that is telling me what to do, not to do, and that is what I have a problem with.
I'm agreeing with your post - imagine that :-)
However, I couldn't find where anyone called you "stupid". Someone who just put the initials sm above called me "stupid".

Here's my thing when I say O worshippers. I am not talking about all of you. There are a few that come on this board and cut down anyone who doesn't "google" and drool at the mention of Obama's name. They can't tell you his policies or ideas or anything. They just go on and on about how we're all trying to spoil their joy and glee that Obama was voted and their dancing in circles. Well that's all fine and good. When I say O worshippers/lovers I'm talking about people who know nothing about Obama's policies. I've read his policies and plans - I don't like them. That's my opinion. When people bash me for no good reason except that I'm not blindly dancing around in circles over-joyed that Obama got in and when I post some serious questions about his policies and ideas and get bashed for it, those are the people I call O worshippers/lovers.

This whole issue of political families "inheriting" their relatives seat is outright disgusting. There are so many qualified people to fill the seats and what do we get someone holding a seat for Biden's son when he returns from his tour of duty and it will just be handed to him without him having to campaign for it, or another Kennedy in the seat just cos her name is Kennedty and the most laughable one Chelsea? I am losing all interest in politics because all I see is corruption. They are treating their positions in the senate as though they are royalty and the position just handed down to their relatives. If I never see or hear of another Kennedy, Clinton, or Bush it will be too soon. There are so many unknown people in politics that are really good people, but they get tossed aside. Why? Cos they don't have money.

As for your last paragraph regarding how can anyone defend the Bush administration and what Cheney said, etc. All I can say is I agree, I agree, I agree 100%. Although I do have to say it goes even farther then those two ninnies - there were plenty of other players who had a say in this farce of a war, and the reason why or economy is going into a depression.
Please give us a link for the court's not agreeing...

Not agreeing with your almight edicts doesn't make
brainwashed right-wing robots.
There is a difference between courts agreeing and denying based on standing...


yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.

I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
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Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
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Whoops....A person....not I person.
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The truth, the whole truth and nothing but...It's probably the biggest...sm
reason why I am voting democrat...they seem more honest than the the republicans and it looks like people are starting to get smart and *bailin' Palin*... We don't need to keep hearing her *greatest hits" version of her acceptance speech over and over and McSame's POW story...that was then, this is now...we need REAL change and we need it NOW. I don't need someone to push the red button, I need someone to fix the economy!
Truth? The truth is she is nuts!
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No, we are not the same person....
Americangirl is a Republican I believe, and I am an independent (who changed my registration to Repub so I could vote in the primary, but will be changing back), but yes, we are both conservative. In some ways she more so than I, in some ways I more so than she. If you look at our posts, we are very different in how we post and we certainly don't agree with each other all the time.

The same could be said for many of the liberal posters. There is one for sure that posts under different monikers, but you can always tell...when one comes under attack the other swoops to defend. Americangirl and I do not post like that.

Thanks for asking.
Actually, you are the person who needs (sm)
to relax.  I really do not know why you keep insisting that someone was smeared.  It is rather bizarre.  She posted an article that mentioned his middle name, you created a huge post about his middle name and why it is used to attack him, I mention that you are creating issues over nothing, then you insist that someone is being smeared?  Very strange... 
if one person somewhere

said that one time, we must take it completely seriously and mention it at every opportunity.  Fight fire with fire.


 


Person like this is beyond help.
nm
The person who said this was not....
a commentator for Fox News. She is Caroline Baum and she works for Bloomberg News. She was being interviewed on the Fox Morning Show and was giving her opinion. Just that, her opinion. Why should there be outrage?
I'm the same person
Don't know how I got the two separated but just so you know I'm the same person. Don't want to appear misleading. Sometimes on the gab board I will put Kaydie and on the political board I put me, but every once inawhile the two get backwards. Not sure I can reset that so only one name will come up. Like I say, not being misleading I just don't know how to reset. PS, still been coming to the board here this morning since I last posted (I think I need some counseling to get un-addicted to this board ha ha), but still haven't had a chance to read your post. Still, thank you for the time you took to reseach and I will read with an open mind. After all I could be wrong. I usually tell people. I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. HA HA HA. Will read your post later - promise.
I think that each person needs to do what his ....sm
conscience tells him to do and not be criticized by us for doing so. Let the chips fall where they may.
Now I know this person is not an MT
"The fees for doing this are not cheap, but you are MTs and make high paying salaries, so $20,000 to $30,000 should not be a problem here." Made me laugh my butt off.
I don't see where this person is
racist at all.  This person is merely pointing out that there is racism out there on BOTH sides and this is what it could potentially lead to. 
No, this person's sig is also clearly sm as well
check it out, it's everywhere on here.
any person who

uses Hitler to compare anyone to, be it Obama or Bush, deserves to be ignored.  There is no comparison to be made in this country to that era.  To use his name for shock value shows extreme ignorance of history and inability to grasp basic facts, let alone nuances, relying instead on the worst of the worst.  Shameful and ignorant.


 


I think it's down to $400/person now......sm
another cut courtesy of our esteemed politicians. That's only about $8.25 a week or a couple gallons of milk, at least at current prices.
And not one person gives him

a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh. 


I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is.  But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason.  So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum. 


And not one person gives him

a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh. 


I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is.  But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason.  So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum. 


I see a person as
either male or female. If that person decides to describe himself as a sin, that's how I will see them, based on the description they have given of themselves. And that description is sinful. Very simple. I hate the description because God tells me to hate it.
You're a very wise person.

There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post.  And you're right.  That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that.  (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)


Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.


Do you always speak of yourself in the third person? sm
I see no difference in your writing style.  Same old stuff.
I probably have used third person at times....

Why is it so important to you? 


And if you cannot see the obvious differences in writing, well, you appear to be quite ignorant or unobservant or else you are not telling the truth.  But that is your problem and I am not going to make it mine!!!


Obviously, this person was not attacking. sm
The underlined part just goes to prove that they are NOT attacking liberals.  I am unsure of your rationalization on this one.
Obviously, this person does not wish to debate. TI
We are wasting our time here.
Who said a person should be president because
My point is that we should be glad there are women in elections and holding high-profile positions in this country instead of attacking their mothering skills or parenting choices. There are plenty of women who think ANY mother that works outside the home in any form is making a poor parenting choice. It should be to each his or her own, please do not try to twist my words to fit your agenda. I never, EVER said I would vote for someone solely to have a woman in office. I said I hailed Hillary's accomplishment, not that I would vote for her (in fact, I said I didn't care for her) and I never said I agree with everything Palin says or does, just that her family is her own business.

On the contrary, I don't vote gender, family, public opinion, or party affiliation, I vote based on the person's abilities and whether I feel they are qualified for the position. Period.
Sally, you really are a mean person.
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Any person earning less than $57,490/yr
income earners in the US. We are not taling about skid row bums and deadbeats. Ever heard of the concept of the shrinking middle class? Is that a good thing for the nation? The lower 40% of the ENTIRE POPULATION of the US owns LESS THAN 1% of the total national wealth. This includes a very, very sizeable chunk of the entire middle class. MTs are always complaining about how they are not paid what they are worth. Does it make sense that all persons combined making less than $57,490/yr own less than 1% of the national wealth? Do these people do less than 1% of the work? Does this seem like an equitable distribution of wealth to you? Please answer these questions directly. Yes or no?
I person of faith

who pubically ridiculed the Bible in a speech. A man who has sketchy associations.  A man who attended a school in Indonesia were his school records list his religion as muslim and yet he denies ever being a muslim.  A man who allowed his children to be baptized and attend a church where the pastor preached hate messages.  A man who supports partial birth abortions......


Please excuse me while I vomit!


I don't think any one person, President or not, can do much - sm
to change the stock market. It seems to have a life of its own, albeit a rather shady one. I don't feel too bad seeing the insurance companies take a hit - they're all crooks and they deserve what they get for being so dishonest. But banks, 401Ks, money market, etc. There has to be someplace left, other than under a mattress, where our savings/rainy-day/retirement money is at least somewhat safe, without earning 0 interest. And forget about buying real-estate! That bubble has burst, as well. Goodbye to any kind of financial security (or even a place to live) for lots of us in our so-called 'Golden Years'.
Well, see, that person that posted obviously has it in...sm
for sam. I know it. You know it. Everbody who sees it knows it....sooooo there's nothing to say because this person says it all about herself.

This person and her buddies play games with her all the time, and really act childish.

And, I, well....really.....unless I resort to name calling, I really have nothing to say, because this person has waayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands and has a personal vendetta against sam.



And by the way, I'm not on the board very often. I don't respond to every single post I see. I don't know who you have me confused with.



But really, all you're doing is being kind of condescending in your response here to me, so why should I bother?



You have me labeled a certain way, and frankly my dear, as one of your cohorts has said recently.....well, just frankly.....


You have too much time on your hands too, if you think you have to post to everybody's post....get a life....while you're at it, get me one too. I work too much and come here and find too much crap posted to try to sift through in a day....so I rarely bother.....just like you rarely to bother to know who I am......


oh, I must be ranting again.....sorry.....you probably think I had nothing to say anyway......



lolololol....................


At least I can laugh at myself, which some on this board don't know how to do anymore.

This is not conviction but a person who has been
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That "unskilled" person could have been my
DH 25 years ago. The first and only company he has worked for sent him to school and now he is at over 200K a year, not too bad for unskilled.
As a godless person myself....
who used to call herself an atheist, until I discovered that in itself was a type of warped-ass "religion," I think it is totally rude, distateful, and smacks of looking for a fight.  Why can't we all just be good to one another?  It's so much easier to do and makes ya feel good inside. 
Why are you so concerned about this person?
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Tell me the last election that a person who is not
a natural born citizen ran for president. I was born in 1960 so maybe there were some before my time, but I thought every election the candidate was a natural born citizen.
This coming from the very person

who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person. 


At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.


This is the sort of person
who should be put in front of "our boys" should there ever be an attach on our soil!