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And if it speaks crooked, thinks crooked, looks crooked, and acts crooked

Posted By: chances are it is, well, crooked on 2009-01-05
In Reply to: I accused nobody of anything. I simply stated that - jj

It goes both ways.


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Yes. We learn more every day how crooked the
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Regarding his relations with Blago and his crooked wife, not O
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/10/AR2008121003232.html?hpid=topnews

Notice the part where he goes out of his way to dampen any speculation about Obama. As usual, you guys are grasping at straws that are not there....AGAIN.
President is going after overblown insurance charges, crooked insurance plans, .....sm
crooked hospital systems that have become quite prosperous "businesses" on the backs of the elderly, but he is NOT AGAINST the eldery getting good solid care, that is political hogwash and propaganda, you wise up and read up, and I don't mean from Fox or Coulter of Limbaugh or one of the Pub sources......

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=av1lMcI6E1no&refer=home

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
He acts just like one of us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vQ7wQ80Aik


WASHINGTON — What does the president-elect order on his first Saturday afternoon since moving into town? A chili dog and cheese fries.
Barack Obama dropped in Saturday afternoon for a bite to eat with Washington's mayor, Adrian Fenty, at Ben's Chili Bowl, the venerable diner in Washington's U Street district.


Obama said it was his first time visiting Ben's Chili Bowl and "it was terrific." The expectation is that Obama _ already at ease in big cities from his time in Chicago _ will venture into town more than President George W. Bush, who rarely made forays into unofficial Washington.


After Obama's motorcade wandered through the U street district, passing the African-American Civil War Memorial and a flea market selling shirts that bear his face, he and Fenty surprised the restaurant around lunchtime. Patrons shrieked with delight and surprise as they saw his face. A mother blushed as Obama held her baby in his arms. The president-elect and the mayor moved slowly through the restaurant's crowded rooms, shaking hands and getting pictures taken with patrons.


Still, they came there to eat. "Where the food at?" he finally asked the counter staff, drawing laughs from them and nearby patrons.


He and Fenty ordered a house specialty, a Chili Half-Smoke _ a quarter-pound half pork and beef smoked sausage on a steamed bun with mustard, onions and chili sauce _ along with a big helping of some cheese fries.


They found a small table. They had the popular food. They even chatted it up with nearby customers at their tables. But something was still missing: the shredded cheese. Obama yelled for some _ "not the Velveeta" kind, he said _ and it was quickly delivered.


Word must have gotten out he was in the area: After Obama and Fenty had their meal and left the building, dozens of people who had lined up before security barriers cheered him on as walked toward his motorcade.


back to the sex acts again

and STILL not obsessing over some long-ago act that even Monica rarely thinks about anymore  . . . .


 


You are the person focusing on sex acts...
and totally ignoring perjury. One can see where your values and sense of fair play line up. Another LINO.
Our daily acts matter....even more now (sm)

Congratulations to all of you who have hoped Obama would win.  I am very happy to have a black man in office, because of all that represents to so many people.  I think that part is a huge historical step in the right direction.  I am also disappointed because of the areas where I disagree with Obama.  But we can't have it all, and truly neither candidate offered everything I would hope for.


With that said, McCain basically asked us all to unify in his speech last night.  And I believe he did so because he knows that if we are to survive as a country, that is what we must do.  Whether you believe he wrote the speech or not, he spoke the words in front of everyone....basically the world was watching...and I don't believe he would have said things he did not mean. 


On a sad note, a dear friend of mine, who is black, stopped at a gas station early this morning and overhead a white man talking saying, "that n***** is going to run this country into the ground."  I was heartbroken to hear that.  I know racism goes both ways but we have to encourage everyone we know to not have that sort of attitude!!!! 


Later this morning, I myself went into a convenient store.  There was an Indian man working the register and a black man buying a lottery ticket, and me, a white woman.  I smiled and said good morning.  The black man looked at me and said, "I can't let Obama outdo me! I need to win the lottery now!" He was obviously happy that Obama won so I said, "oh, you're looking for a double win!" He said, "yes!" and I wished him good luck but told him my dad would be trying to win too and if he wins I get some money :-)  He smiled and the guy at the register smiled...I told them all to have a nice day. 


Can't we all just be kind to one another?


Very concerned. Senate acts like
for not paying his taxes. If I did not pay my taxes can I just have a slap on the hand too?

All I care about is that Mr. G. knows what he is doing and hope it works for our economy. I think Mr. G. is the one who has the most difficult job right now with our economy and housing market. Hope he knows how to distribute money, etc., because he sure has heck does not know how to pay his taxes.
TARP, both sides are guilty, but O acts like he had nothing to do with it! nm

Hot Air..........name speaks for itself
Yes, all Americans who cannot tolerate 4 more years of the same are terrified by this candidate who puts her religion above the needs of our country........and rightly so
History speaks for itself. sm
You are simply ignorant of it and I said it was ONE of the reasons, not the only reason.  Still trying to twist my words and worm out that you don't know history at all!  Do you EVER watch the History Channel?  Read historical books, not just college course books.  I am through talking to you.  People who can't even admit they are wrong and try to put the onus on someone else aren't worth talking to.  Besides, you are so filled with hatred, I am surprised you didn't say how ugly Bush's daughters are just to throw that in just one more time.
Record speaks for itself.
Been there, done that, and agree with OP - Cons have been grossly hypocritical about demanding dissenters leave their board, then sneaking over here to post nasty comments.
A vet speaks out about Bush





From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
A vet speaks out about Bush
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 30, 2005, 06:34


Tim Abbott is a Vietnam veteran who lives in the Southwestern Virginia town of Hillsville, a conservative, blue-collar community that tends to vote Republican and bleed red, white and blue.

But, like an increasing number of veterans, Abbott is fed up with President George W. Bush.

“Bush talks a lot about freedom, courage, transparent government and the rule of law. He talks,” Abbott says. “His speeches are carefully choreographed before audiences of his faithful -- often Christian fundamentalists or, to paraphrase Bush, Christian-fascists -- and they must sign loyalty oaths to Bush. He speaks before audience after audience of soldiers and sailors who cannot speak except as directed by the White House.”

Normally, such comments would be risky in a mountain town where Patriotism rules supreme but Abbott expressed his views this week in an op ed article for The Roanoke Times and found many people agreeing with him.

“When I think of Bush, I do not think of liberty and courage, compassion and justice. No, I think of arrogance, greed and lies,” Abbott wrote. “He is a thug, a buffoon and a coward. Not only is he incompetent, he is corrupt.”

In normal times, these would be fighting words and Abbott would do well to avoid lunch at the Hillsville Diner, the Main Street eatery where the locals gather to discuss politics. But George W. Bush’s times are not normal times and Abbott is greeted warmly on the streets of Hillsville.

“In his Mission Accomplished foray, (Bush) wore a military uniform, something no president has done since Washington, and Washington only wore the uniform to quell a rebellion,” Abbott says. “Around the world he has replaced the Soviet Gulag with the Bush Gulag, where men may be tortured.”

Abbott’s comments come when this web site revealed that the Pentagon has ordered soldiers home from Iraq for holiday leave to give pro-war interviews to their hometown newspapers and television station. This does not surprise a veteran who learned about military duplicity in Vietnam.

“Others before whom he speaks may ask no questions. He runs from journalists, as we have seen in China, even on those rare occasions that he speaks before them,” Abbott says of Bush. “Even worse, he has paid journalists to say good things about him and his policies. He also produces propaganda from government offices that he offers as news reports. And any protests against his policies are diverted well away from his sight and hearing.”

In recent weeks, I’ve spoken with dozens of vets of Vietnam, Desert Storm and the present invasion of Iraq and most speak with anger towards Bush and his policies.

Soldiers serve under a code of honor, something they say Bush lacks.

“Bush is of a kind with the dictators; a strutting, sanctimonious buffoon who talks democracy but acts like Saddam Hussein,” Abbott says. “Bush might differ in degree from Hussein, not having been in power as long, but in behavior, with torture and the corruption of government, they are of a kind.

“While al-Qaida is an enemy of the values and principles of the United States and Western civilization and must be confronted, it can do no more than kill people and destroy property.

“Bush can subvert our principles and institutions. He is the greater enemy.”

© Copyright 2005 Capitol Hill Blue

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actually what you name your children speaks
What about the lady that named her daughter Emer Gency because that's the sign she saw going into the hospital? Sure this may be folklore but if you are an MT you know like I do people make really poor choices when it comes to naming thier kids and I would never elect one of those braniacs VP!!!
Geez. Well this speaks for itself. nm
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No one said he speaks for all the Jews
don't ass-u-me.

It's funny, you say you get Christianity "shoved" down your throat everywhere, but everywhere I go I get sex, violence, and other "worldly" things that I find disgraceful shoved down mine. I'm expected to sit by and just accept all that without saying anything, but you (and others who think your way) should be allowed to say that we have to get out of everything but our homes and churches? Do you not see the double standard? Those of us who want to live the Christian life can't even go into the mall without seeing sex ads and innuendos about cheating, and lately I can't walk through a store without hearing someone using filthy language left and right. But I should just put up with it, right?
That is good. I look forward to seeing how she speaks and...sm
how knowledgable she is when answering unscripted questions or delivering a speech.
Your ignorance speaks for itself. Can;t stoop low enough
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The Bible speaks of all this but seeing it happen
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I most certainly do not turn off the TV every time he speaks
I listen carefully to every word he says, same as I do Obama.  Thus far all I have heard from McCain is that "that one" is lying about.  I would PREFER to hear what he proposes.  I am perfectly capable of listening to Obama and deciding for myself without McCain's ( or Palin's) input.
The lack of one pretty much speaks for itself...
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Here's the audio...........speaks volumes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg
well dubya speaks like a child and he scares the
is what counts and clearly Dubya is lacking in that department and Obama is not.
McCain's low profile on this speaks volumes.
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McCain: What you are speaks so loud, I cannot hear
what you are saying.
The bimb* comment speaks volumes....
tell me....why would you vote in the same party who are to blame for this financial crisis through horrible, self-serving decision making?

That frightens me more than this answer.
What you are speaks so loudly I cannot hear what you are saying McCain

I could never vote for this kind of person "my friends" - no one is perfect and especially politicians, but there is a limit to what I am going to believe.


http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/?Page=Article&ID=9559


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/mccain-bailout-plan-new-work/story.aspx?guid=%7BA2FC6CCF-D8FB-4725-8695-F6FBB2FD1650%7D


 


From U.S. Veteran Dispatch

McCain's Divorce
Before John McCain's tour of duty in Vietnam, he married Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia. On his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam in 1967, McCain was shot down and captured.
While he was imprisoned, Carol was in an auto wreck (1969), thrown through her car's windshield and left seriously injured. Despite her injures, she refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.

When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. The accident "left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she had gained a good deal of weight."

Yearning to make the grade of admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.

In his book, The Nightingale's Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain's post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his "adulterous" behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley.

Timberg wrote, "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather [both were Navy admirals], since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs." Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates..

Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."

In 1979 at a military reception in Honolulu, McCain met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. Cindy's father, Jim, founded the Hensley and Company, the nation's third-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.

McCain described their first meeting, "She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident. I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."

While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 -- just a month after dumping Carol and securing a divorce. The newlyweds honeymooned in Hawaii.

McCain followed his young, millionairess wife back to Arizona where her father helped catapult McCain into politics,

Today, Cindy Hensley McCain is chairwoman of Hensley's board of directors. Hensley and Company financial reports show assets worth a minimum of $28 million for the McCains..............As he says.....character counts.......


This little blurb speaks volumes about Obama (sm)
Indeed, if Obama had had his way, all American combat troops would have been withdrawn from Iraq by March 2008, which would have led to civil war and genocide; an unprecedented victory for al-Qaeda and Islamic jihadists; and a boon to Iran.

This speaks volumes about the character of the man who would be president

Saying you "ain't" a republican speaks volumes.
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Frankly, don't we all cringe when the other party speaks?

But that's because we anticipate the content is not going to be what we want to hear.


Bush's speeches made me cringe for other reasons - like I was embarrassed we had such an obvious moron as a leader, and the rest of the world could appreciate our sterling judgement.  We might as well posted a billboard that says - we elected the stupidest guy we could get so the powers behind the throne will have an easy time of it.  Nothing fake about HIM - he was sincerely, honestly stupid, and proud of it.


Your ignorance speaks volumes.......I have read it
maybe you just failed reading comprehension in general!!!
I would say that the lack of his demise being plastered all over the news speaks s/m
quite well for his health.
The pubs inability to nominate an honest VP SPEAKS VOLUMES!
And to top it off, she was stupider than Bush! Hahahahahahahaha!
let me tell you what my son thinks -
My son voted for McCain - his reasoning? "Well, it don't matter, we are gonna be in a war whoever gets it". Exact words...

When I asked him why he voted McCain, he said he did not know, that's just who he chose when he had to mark something.

When I asked him about issues, again, he did not know.

When we talked about the economy and everything that has been going on in the last months, he did not know anything about it. Said they were not allowed any newspapers or TV and so they did not know what was going on in the world.

Of course, he is in basic training, but those boys should be allowed to have information also so that they can make an informed decision. How many of those 18 year olds really know what they just voted for? Obviously not many if my son's respones to me are the norm.

And you know what, my son wants to come out and he thinks the military is going to pay for his college. Did you happen to see the link I posted below about McCain voting against the extra funding for the GI bill? My son did not have a chance to find that out before he voted...


I don't know who thinks they are the
highly educated on this board, you or gourdpainter. You 2 have a lot in common! You really do need a breath of fresh air, honey. They sure didn't teach you about respect in that (now get ready) college...
Thank you! And anyone who still thinks he's
a Muslim is an uninformed idi*t. I wish people would at least educate themselves before voting....
Me thinks you are right......... sm
Might want to hit the farm and ranch store and stock up on seeds for planting come spring. And hang on to those newspapers.......just in case! LOL
I think we all know how well he thinks
showed us this at his big fiasco on the Rick Warren special, which was the only time during the entire campaign he was caught without his teleprompter. He stuttered and stammered half of his time away instead of answering the questions. And now, his so-called press conferences are prearranged. He knows who he is going to call on when he steps on stage and I feel sure he has given the reporters the questions they are allowed to ask. He is one sly, smooth-talking devil alright, and you betcha, he thinks about what he is going to say carefully before he says it!
So now you know what God thinks...wow...

To use your God to promote prejudice...Christian?  Christian means to follow Christ..and Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking.  Get away from me!!!


No - he just THINKS he is on TV
He's only that great in his own mind.

Actually most of the posts in support of TS are just TS using different monikers. Read some of them, you will see the pattern...
Oh and I really DON'T care what he thinks. sm
I mean none of us really should, liberal or conservative.  I don't know about you, but as I hit the middle ages of my life, I have way more to worry about than what some overpaid actor thinks about anything.  It just isn't real h igh on my list of things I care about.  Now that I am back in school, and really struggling to find a career that will last me the rest of my life, I have even less time for things like this. 
I cannot argue with someone who thinks as you do.
You decry killing of innocent civilians when they are Muslim only.  Israeli have lived with killings for decades. Where was your pain then? 
Not everyone follows what the pope thinks
...
Well, wonder what the general thinks about...
the 500 metric tons of yellowcake uranium that was just moved out of Iraq to Canada...Ms. Valerie Plame said during that big scandal that Hussein did not even have access to it...and now we have...uh...500 metric tons of it removed from Iraq. The Bush Administration and new Iraqi government kept it secret so the terrorists operating there would not target it until they could get it out of there. Got any idea how much 500 metric tons is? There's your reality check. Hussein was everything Clinton and his admin and Bush and his admin said he was. And he DID have WMD...he used it on his own people. Reality check indeed.

As to abortion...and Roe vs. Wade. Roe vs. Wade is illegal on its face. Activist judges struck down a law and made a new one, and they cannot do that by the Constitution. Only the COngress on state and federal level can enact law. FOr that reason alone it should be struck down.
It's all about choice? Then why can a mother drown a 2-day-old baby and that's murder? That's a choice as well. Why can't a person just shoot someone they find annoying and inconvenient? That's a choice.

Maybe it is not a priority to you, my friend. It is to me. So you vote for the man who will give you the right to choose, and I will vote for the man who at some point will stand up for the Constitution and not install activist judges who pick and choose which parts of the Constitution to uphold.
Better than a mortal who thinks....
he is God.
Me thinks he has been scrutinized
very well, and everything they come up with has been shown to be lies or fantasy.  Ask yourself why congressmen would endorse Obama if there was something to hide, i.e. Muslim, extremist, Ayers, whatever else you would like to throw at him. Now they're saying he grew up in Pakistan.  Silly season.
You just might have a big surprise me thinks. lol.

Anyone who thinks infanticide A-OK....
don't even know how to BEGIN to categorize. Blinded and cult-like are certainly close. Don't you think that basic human morality precludes infanticide??
This is hilarious! Anyone who thinks
this post and answers are for real, stand on your head!
Well the O thinks he's above the law - see article

http://www.borderfirereport.net/sher-zieve/obama-too-important-to-respond-to-us-supreme-court.html

I don't the SC takes too kindly to people who think they are above the law.