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McCain's low profile on this speaks volumes.

Posted By: From post below on 2008-08-20
In Reply to: There never will be a source on this - talk about pathetic bashing...gee -nm

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Here's the audio...........speaks volumes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg
The bimb* comment speaks volumes....
tell me....why would you vote in the same party who are to blame for this financial crisis through horrible, self-serving decision making?

That frightens me more than this answer.
This little blurb speaks volumes about Obama (sm)
Indeed, if Obama had had his way, all American combat troops would have been withdrawn from Iraq by March 2008, which would have led to civil war and genocide; an unprecedented victory for al-Qaeda and Islamic jihadists; and a boon to Iran.

This speaks volumes about the character of the man who would be president

Saying you "ain't" a republican speaks volumes.
:p
Your ignorance speaks volumes.......I have read it
maybe you just failed reading comprehension in general!!!
The pubs inability to nominate an honest VP SPEAKS VOLUMES!
And to top it off, she was stupider than Bush! Hahahahahahahaha!
Several high-profile dems support McCain.
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McCain: What you are speaks so loud, I cannot hear
what you are saying.
What you are speaks so loudly I cannot hear what you are saying McCain

I could never vote for this kind of person "my friends" - no one is perfect and especially politicians, but there is a limit to what I am going to believe.


http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/?Page=Article&ID=9559


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/mccain-bailout-plan-new-work/story.aspx?guid=%7BA2FC6CCF-D8FB-4725-8695-F6FBB2FD1650%7D


 


From U.S. Veteran Dispatch

McCain's Divorce
Before John McCain's tour of duty in Vietnam, he married Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia. On his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam in 1967, McCain was shot down and captured.
While he was imprisoned, Carol was in an auto wreck (1969), thrown through her car's windshield and left seriously injured. Despite her injures, she refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.

When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. The accident "left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she had gained a good deal of weight."

Yearning to make the grade of admiral, McCain enrolled in the National War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively positioning him for promotion.

In his book, The Nightingale's Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain's post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his "adulterous" behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley.

Timberg wrote, "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather [both were Navy admirals], since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs." Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates..

Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."

In 1979 at a military reception in Honolulu, McCain met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. Cindy's father, Jim, founded the Hensley and Company, the nation's third-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.

McCain described their first meeting, "She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident. I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."

While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 -- just a month after dumping Carol and securing a divorce. The newlyweds honeymooned in Hawaii.

McCain followed his young, millionairess wife back to Arizona where her father helped catapult McCain into politics,

Today, Cindy Hensley McCain is chairwoman of Hensley's board of directors. Hensley and Company financial reports show assets worth a minimum of $28 million for the McCains..............As he says.....character counts.......


Was just trying to get a profile of Bushies.

Are you saying you don't fit the profile?  Because when I read this article, it reminded me of all you people who keep coming to the Liberal board to bash and the rather bizarre posts you come up with.


What's the matter?  Don't push it away!  Embrace it!!! Love it!!!!  Praise it!!!!  Pat and Jerry and George, et al. wouldn't be pleased to see you deny that you're one of them!


The EMR is just that - instead of volumes of - sm
paper charts, the patients' medical records are stored in the hospital's computer system. Digitized imaging can be stored there, as well. That way, if a doctor wants a colleague to consult on a CT scan or an x-ray, for example, the image can be sent instantly sent to a specialist clear across the country, and doesn't have to be mailed (and possibly lost). If you move, and get a new doctor, he or she can have faster access to your past medical history. So our part in the EMR remains pretty much the same, except that of course the same computer technology that has made doing our job easier (i.e., the Internet) has also made it possible for greedy MTSOs to send work offshore, so it can be done cheaper (but not better!) and make more money. Anyway, the EMR is not the problem with our low pay & job losses, it's the government allowing private medical records to be sent offshore. So we need to continue to press our elected officials (and especially whoever becomes our next President, and this time I'm SURE it's going to be a Democrat), that the U.S. needs to stop this practice, or risk losing its entire middle class.
Boy, if this doesn't speak volumes . . .
What does?
Plenty! Intelligent People Can Find Volumes
Others...well, they just obviously don't know where to look. Sorry about you.


Alma mater Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
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Lawyer
Constitutional law professor
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Hot Air..........name speaks for itself
Yes, all Americans who cannot tolerate 4 more years of the same are terrified by this candidate who puts her religion above the needs of our country........and rightly so
History speaks for itself. sm
You are simply ignorant of it and I said it was ONE of the reasons, not the only reason.  Still trying to twist my words and worm out that you don't know history at all!  Do you EVER watch the History Channel?  Read historical books, not just college course books.  I am through talking to you.  People who can't even admit they are wrong and try to put the onus on someone else aren't worth talking to.  Besides, you are so filled with hatred, I am surprised you didn't say how ugly Bush's daughters are just to throw that in just one more time.
Record speaks for itself.
Been there, done that, and agree with OP - Cons have been grossly hypocritical about demanding dissenters leave their board, then sneaking over here to post nasty comments.
A vet speaks out about Bush





From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
A vet speaks out about Bush
By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 30, 2005, 06:34


Tim Abbott is a Vietnam veteran who lives in the Southwestern Virginia town of Hillsville, a conservative, blue-collar community that tends to vote Republican and bleed red, white and blue.

But, like an increasing number of veterans, Abbott is fed up with President George W. Bush.

“Bush talks a lot about freedom, courage, transparent government and the rule of law. He talks,” Abbott says. “His speeches are carefully choreographed before audiences of his faithful -- often Christian fundamentalists or, to paraphrase Bush, Christian-fascists -- and they must sign loyalty oaths to Bush. He speaks before audience after audience of soldiers and sailors who cannot speak except as directed by the White House.”

Normally, such comments would be risky in a mountain town where Patriotism rules supreme but Abbott expressed his views this week in an op ed article for The Roanoke Times and found many people agreeing with him.

“When I think of Bush, I do not think of liberty and courage, compassion and justice. No, I think of arrogance, greed and lies,” Abbott wrote. “He is a thug, a buffoon and a coward. Not only is he incompetent, he is corrupt.”

In normal times, these would be fighting words and Abbott would do well to avoid lunch at the Hillsville Diner, the Main Street eatery where the locals gather to discuss politics. But George W. Bush’s times are not normal times and Abbott is greeted warmly on the streets of Hillsville.

“In his Mission Accomplished foray, (Bush) wore a military uniform, something no president has done since Washington, and Washington only wore the uniform to quell a rebellion,” Abbott says. “Around the world he has replaced the Soviet Gulag with the Bush Gulag, where men may be tortured.”

Abbott’s comments come when this web site revealed that the Pentagon has ordered soldiers home from Iraq for holiday leave to give pro-war interviews to their hometown newspapers and television station. This does not surprise a veteran who learned about military duplicity in Vietnam.

“Others before whom he speaks may ask no questions. He runs from journalists, as we have seen in China, even on those rare occasions that he speaks before them,” Abbott says of Bush. “Even worse, he has paid journalists to say good things about him and his policies. He also produces propaganda from government offices that he offers as news reports. And any protests against his policies are diverted well away from his sight and hearing.”

In recent weeks, I’ve spoken with dozens of vets of Vietnam, Desert Storm and the present invasion of Iraq and most speak with anger towards Bush and his policies.

Soldiers serve under a code of honor, something they say Bush lacks.

“Bush is of a kind with the dictators; a strutting, sanctimonious buffoon who talks democracy but acts like Saddam Hussein,” Abbott says. “Bush might differ in degree from Hussein, not having been in power as long, but in behavior, with torture and the corruption of government, they are of a kind.

“While al-Qaida is an enemy of the values and principles of the United States and Western civilization and must be confronted, it can do no more than kill people and destroy property.

“Bush can subvert our principles and institutions. He is the greater enemy.”

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actually what you name your children speaks
What about the lady that named her daughter Emer Gency because that's the sign she saw going into the hospital? Sure this may be folklore but if you are an MT you know like I do people make really poor choices when it comes to naming thier kids and I would never elect one of those braniacs VP!!!
Geez. Well this speaks for itself. nm
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No one said he speaks for all the Jews
don't ass-u-me.

It's funny, you say you get Christianity "shoved" down your throat everywhere, but everywhere I go I get sex, violence, and other "worldly" things that I find disgraceful shoved down mine. I'm expected to sit by and just accept all that without saying anything, but you (and others who think your way) should be allowed to say that we have to get out of everything but our homes and churches? Do you not see the double standard? Those of us who want to live the Christian life can't even go into the mall without seeing sex ads and innuendos about cheating, and lately I can't walk through a store without hearing someone using filthy language left and right. But I should just put up with it, right?
That is good. I look forward to seeing how she speaks and...sm
how knowledgable she is when answering unscripted questions or delivering a speech.
Your ignorance speaks for itself. Can;t stoop low enough
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The Bible speaks of all this but seeing it happen
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I most certainly do not turn off the TV every time he speaks
I listen carefully to every word he says, same as I do Obama.  Thus far all I have heard from McCain is that "that one" is lying about.  I would PREFER to hear what he proposes.  I am perfectly capable of listening to Obama and deciding for myself without McCain's ( or Palin's) input.
The lack of one pretty much speaks for itself...
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well dubya speaks like a child and he scares the
is what counts and clearly Dubya is lacking in that department and Obama is not.
Frankly, don't we all cringe when the other party speaks?

But that's because we anticipate the content is not going to be what we want to hear.


Bush's speeches made me cringe for other reasons - like I was embarrassed we had such an obvious moron as a leader, and the rest of the world could appreciate our sterling judgement.  We might as well posted a billboard that says - we elected the stupidest guy we could get so the powers behind the throne will have an easy time of it.  Nothing fake about HIM - he was sincerely, honestly stupid, and proud of it.


I would say that the lack of his demise being plastered all over the news speaks s/m
quite well for his health.
Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate.  I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years.  God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
And if it speaks crooked, thinks crooked, looks crooked, and acts crooked
It goes both ways.
McCain
Not only will he refuse to get out of Iraq unless there is some sort of clear victory, even if it takes "100 years" or "1000 years" (his words), jokes about how to handle Iran is "Bom, bom, bom, bom, bomb Iran" (to the tune of a Beach Boys song), he also wants to kick Russia out of the G8 and not let China or India in. Way to place nice with the up-and-coming superpowers - I'm sure that will do great things for our country in years to come.

There are certain things I like about him (strict belief in Geneva Convention, willing to work across party lines), but his warmongering side scares the you-know-what out of me.
McCain's age
Whether his military uniform helps his image depends on what kind of world we want to be living in tomorrow, not the one we live in now. A lot of people will be showing up at the polls to say that status quo is not acceptable, especially when it comes to solving problems by waging wars. Concerns over his age, senility and/or Alzheimer’s are legitimate if you do the math. Those possibilities are very real and could just as easily happen early in his term as later. He has shown some early signs like his problems with word retrieval, mispronunciation, confusion, forgetting what he is saying and blank staring spells.

The teleprompter comment is also kind of a cheap shot. Besides that, it is not true, unless you believe everything you hear on Fox or YouTube. He is an excellent orator and delivered very spontaneous and inspiring responses in the town hall meetings during the primaries and in news conferences. YHe is a much better speaker than McCain.

McCain....you mean
I can't believe anyone would vote for him after what Bush just did to us for 8 years.
Well, McCain's gas in his car came from
oil from a country that supports terrorism. McCain a supporter of terrorism? You can interpret this any way you like.
if McCain gets in

that will be the tenor of the New Secretary of State.


 


Why McCain?
http://www.johnmccain.com/Undecided/WhyMcCain.htm
McCain looks

like he hurts.  It makes me uncomfortable to watch.  Obama has a significantly larger amt of data in his mind (constitutional law professor, etc) to sort through, gather, and assemble before he responds to a question.  It is to his favor that he does not immediately yelp out an answer like a trained seal. 


 


Thank you. I think McCain's age ... sm
Is what worries me so much about this situation. I mean, people die at different ages, it's true, but if McCain were 20 years younger, I don't think I'd be quite as worried. But he's 72, has had skin cancer several times, and I read (haven't verified) that both his father and grandfather died suddenly of heart attacks when they were younger than he is now. Now that might not mean anything. After all, isnt' his mother in her 90s? But it just worries me. It would be different if he wanted Palin to have a cabinet position where she could, I don't know, hone her skills, cut her teeth in Washington, so to speak, but to put her is a position of leading our country if something happens to McCain? It just makes me very nervous.
Oh, of course. McCain will get the best...sm
Healthcare. Too bad for the rest of us peons though!

Still, the best healthcare in the U.S. can't turn back time and make him young again. He is really getting up there, and the campaign must be wearing on him. I don't know how any of them can stand all the travel that comes with campaigning.

The New McCain!

The Ugly New McCain



 
Wednesday, September 17, 2008; Page


Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.







The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.


"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."



 

Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.


"Actually, they are not lies," he said.


Actually, they are.


McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.


I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.


Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.


McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.


At a forum last week at Columbia University, McCain said, "But right now we have to restore trust and confidence in government." This was always the promise of John McCain, the single best reason to vote for him. America has been cheated on too many times -- the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and Iraq. So many lies. Who believes that in Afghanistan last month, only five civilians were killed by the American military in an airstrike, instead of the approximately 90 claimed by the Afghan government? Not me. I first gave up on the military during Vietnam and then again when it covered up the death of Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger and former NFL player who was killed in 2004 by friendly fire.


McCain was going to fix all that. He was going to look the American people in the eyes and say, not me. I will not lie to you. I am John McCain, son and grandson of admirals. I tell the truth.


But Joy Behar knew better. And so McCain lied about his lying and maybe thinks that if he wins the election, he can -- as he did in South Carolina -- renounce who he was and what he did and resume his old persona. It won't work. Karl Marx got one thing right -- what he said about history repeating itself. Once is tragedy, a second time is farce. John McCain is both.


cohenr@washpost.com


or like when McCain said . . .
Obama called her a pig and then on Monday said he didn't
it has to do with McCain and

Bush systematically deregulating  (savings and loans - Keating 5) and wall street so that the souless corporations can do whatever they want without any limits.  they have removed the safety factors built into the system after the great depression. Well, now we have the situation that deregulation brings.  As Romney said at this years' repub convention - McCain is going to go at all the regulations on industry with a weed wacker. 


 


McCain
Respecting his service to his country is one thing.  He is only one of thousands who have done the same thing. or worse, died for their country, and are just as deserving of being honored as McCain.  Trusting him to lead this country is another thing entirely.
Seeing as McCain may not . . .
live out his term, she is running for the top spot.
Does McCain even know what he is saying.

Maybe he had better hit the beach with the flip-flops.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI&feature=PlayList&p=2F671A7FEF92B36B&index=3


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc&feature=PlayList&p=2F671A7FEF92B36B&index=10


 


 


He said, he said. I believe what McCain said,
you believe what Obama said. McCain said he told Obama he was going to suspend his campaign and when Obama spoke just now he stated the same thing, only says "I didn't know he meant it now" or some such. I don't buy that. He just didn't think McCain was serious. Turns out he was.
Can any McCain fan or Rep. tell me why
McCain has supported legislation to give tax breaks to companies that outsource jobs?  I'm asking because I don't know.  I figured you guys have read a lot of his stuff and thought you might know off the top of your head.  I could always try to find it but am finding myself lazy tonight  and thought someone might be in the know without having to Google it.
And you think McCain is going to do any better?

What a mess! 


Oh and saw on the news that this bailout will affect even the people who do live within their means because it means that the Jones' house that gets foreclosed on will reduce the amount my house is worth and therefore I lose too!  Something needs to be done and quick! 


It is not fair to simply point out Obama's plans when you do not mention McCain's either.  What are McCain's plans?  All he seems to do is "knock" Obama.  Oh better consider what Palin has to say too, you know McCain is getting no younger or any healthier for that matter.


McCain

Someone with character....hmm.  You best not vote then. 


McCain

Typo in my name.  Still feel the same way though!