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You just might have a big surprise me thinks. lol.

Posted By: huh? on 2008-09-24
In Reply to: That's exactly the kind of debate he wants.. - nobama08




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No surprise.

Two Democrats today commented on leftists like you and several others on this board.  I sure do agree with them.


Mike Kinsley, lifelong Democrat, on Pelosi’s pathetic platform:



For national security in general, the Democrats’ plan is so according-to-type that you cringe with embarrassment: It’s mostly about new cash benefits for veterans. Regarding Iraq specifically, the Democrats’ plan has two parts. First, they want Iraqis to “assum[e] primary responsibility for securing and governing their country.” Then they want “responsible redeployment” (great euphemism) of American forces.


Older readers may recognize this formula. It’s Vietnamization—the Nixon-Kissinger plan for extracting us from a previous mistake. But Vietnamization was not a plan for victory. It was a plan for what was called “peace with honor” and is now known as “defeat.”


Maybe “A New Direction for America” is just a campaign document—although it seems to have had no effect at all on the campaign. My fear is that the House Democrats may try to use it as a basis for governing.


Orson Scott Card, lifelong Democrat, on the only issue that matters in this election:



I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America’s role as a light among nations.


But there are no values that matter to me that will not be gravely endangered if we lose this war. And since the Democratic Party seems hellbent on losing it — and in the most damaging possible way — I have no choice but to advocate that my party be kept from getting its hands on the reins of national power, until it proves itself once again to be capable of recognizing our core national interests instead of its own temporary partisan advantages.


To all intents and purposes, when the Democratic Party jettisoned Joseph Lieberman over the issue of his support of this war, they kicked me out as well. The party of Harry Truman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan — the party I joined back in the 1970s — is dead. Of suicide.


This may come as a surprise to you, but...
nm
Why should this surprise you? Now he is saying
that they need to have more regulation, after wanting to de-regulate years ago.
No surprise here...(sm)
I think I said a couple days ago they wouldn't be happy with the result and that it would just turn into a larger *conspiracy.*  Thanks for not disappointing.  LOL
no be surprise
he admits to being a heavy drinker, dating strippers, etc.  He has only donned this moral costume with the church talk and happy marriage schitch since he has had to go far right to get conservative support this election cycle.  Before he was defeated by Bush, he was more left-central.  Now is fair right. 
Big surprise, huh?

With all that lynch mob mentality going on, people are waking up to the real deal.  Even a lot of very prominent pubs are turning away, advising JM to dump that noose around his neck because she is dragging him down.  After all, he did create the monster.  I say, what goes around . . .


No surprise there....
he is a socialist.
This may come as a surprise to you,
are not one monolithic group of people who share the same literal read of the Quran as you would have us believe. Substitute the word Jihadist for Muslim in your statement and then we might have something to talk about. I will not put myself in the position to defend the teachings of a Holy Book that is read, interpreted and elaborated in thousands of different ways by 1.5 billion people who are members of the world's second largest religion. My issue here is not whether or not minority sects within that religion are terrorist...the same way that I see fanatical Christians, by the way (and before you go there, I am Christian). My issue is the ignorant, dangerous rhetoric that would paint a huge majority of humble, spiritual, religious people of faith of any religion in one broad stroke that would leave us believing they they are all out to "get us."
No surprise there.
With the kind of narrow-minded thinking and myopic world view you hav expressed in your posts, of course you can't envision anything except your own stupidity.
Big surprise there.

No surprise here
Been watching this woman move up the ranks of corruption in California for many years now.
For many of us that comes as no surprise......
They have already told O that out of those released from there, they already know to be fact that over 60% of them go back to fight and kill!

Yep, all those poor little gitmo guys now being treated like kings in the bahamas.... nice place to start another group up terrorists training!!!! Too bad so many O lovers have been sucked into that belief that those guys are just lovable little teddy bears!!!
Why doesn't this surprise me??

Nan, you were stalked??? What a surprise!!!!!
nm
Hey, doesn't surprise me
When Carter won one I knew the committee's cheese had completely slid of their cracker.
Wouldn't surprise me if he still is.
Nothing the Bush administration does surprises me any more.
This does not come as a surprise. Thanks for posting..nm

What? No takers? No surprise there.
nm
doesn't surprise me a bit!
x
I pray that you will get a surprise

and your husband will be home for the birth of your first child.  I admire that you accept that it is his job.  You are a brave young lady.


Just a coincidence, my favorite Kiger Mustang mare is expecting her first foal on Feb. 21 so I'm going to be a "granny."  LOL


Take care of yourself and that baby!  I'll "argue" with you anytime.  LOL


Pleasant surprise?
SURPRISE!!! We're being attacked AGAIN.  Even Mr. Biden said we are in for an attack of some sort in order to "test" O...Yeah, that's the kind of change I'm looking for...
I actually don't find it to be a surprise at all...
California voted to ban gay marriage before. The supreme court overturned the proposition and allowed it, citing that it was against the state constitution, so all this did was amend the constitution to reinstate what has been voted in before.
Ummm, this may come as a surprise to you
There are between 1.3 and 1.6 BILLION Moslems in the world. Estimates of how many live in the US are widely disputed, but range between 2 and 7 million. Among them, only a very small percentage of them are extremist. That leaves about a BILLION of them, give or take, for Obama to "win over." Got it?
Of course he is a believer. ..... which is no surprise
when you see the agenda he is shoving down everyone's throats!!! People better wake up and take back their country before this man destroys it!
No surprise that he received such applause!

Did you read the other story on that page regarding the U.S. plans to invade Venezuela?  Is the administration so stupid to think that people will actually believe that troops were sent there for R&R?  Gimme a break!


It's really a shame when a socialist leader has more honesty and integrity than an American president.  Given the choice, who would you believe, Bush or Chavez?  Not much of a contest, is it?


What a surprise, you don't condemn skinheads.

And, as usual, you twist my words in order to attack my posts.  I wrote, *It's too bad that these *rotten apples* are making the majority of the good military look bad.*


Shame on YOU for not thinking this is horrible. 


It's hard to surprise a fool. NT
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This is not a surprise either: Chertoff says US needs more authority. sm
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=2308590
Martial law wouldn't surprise me. n/m
x
I didn't think much could surprise me anymore
but this is some creepy stuff. What's next?
Your theory doesn't really surprise
me.  I just think it sucks that illegals get so much money from us for education, health care, etc.  Now they want to give illegals the right to vote?  What is the point of being an American citizen nowadays.  You get more rights and benefits being illegal.  It just irks me!!!
It wouldn't surprise me if he changes the law - see message
and allows other countries flags to fly above our so we don't hurt their feelings. After all, according to him we are just a bunch of "selfish ignorant Americans".
It wouldn't surprise me if it broke out....(sm)
into a full fledged civil war.  With everything that's going on over there right now, that would be a huge mess.  However, this may be the only way for Iranian people to break out of it.  I think those who would revolt would definitely get a lot of backing though.  I just don't know how much the US could do to back them considering how our resources are so thin right now. 
China is not industrialized? That would be a real surprise to them, I am sure. nm

What a surprise. You need to shut your TV off & open your mind.nm
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No big surprise here....you pick and choose the facts you want...sm
to read and hear. I'm tired of trying to educate you.



Meanwhile, Barry Obama can do no wrong, and the facts are spun in the media to his direction, making him look like the poster boy for "poor me" they're trying to "smear me" ....

No matter that it is all TRUE!!!!!


Well, boo hoo.

Barry worked for ACORN, was and is, friends with terrorists and racists and liberal democratic former CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, people who hate this country and all it stands for are his so called "friends" that he has thrown under the bus.


Watch, if he wins, they'll all pop out of the woodwork again.


That man lies and rewrites his life story, and you all believe him.


That old saying that goes: Show me a person's friends and those he surrounds himself with, and it will show you who he is.


Well, I certainly don't like and trust what and who Barry Obama.



Gee, how come there is NO ONE from Barry's former or current life, that are friends that can stand up for his character?




The street is always one-way for the democrats, the biggest spin doctors around.



I'll take SP over O any day.


Making an oak out of an acorn was the October surprise
Nice try. It ain't gonna stick, just like Ayers and all the other smears don't stick. Watch SNL tonight to see them rip Palin apart. Tina Fey was on Letterman last night saying how Palin isn't smart enough and got roars and resounding applause from the audience.
Colin Powell....closet democrat...no surprise there...nm

let me tell you what my son thinks -
My son voted for McCain - his reasoning? "Well, it don't matter, we are gonna be in a war whoever gets it". Exact words...

When I asked him why he voted McCain, he said he did not know, that's just who he chose when he had to mark something.

When I asked him about issues, again, he did not know.

When we talked about the economy and everything that has been going on in the last months, he did not know anything about it. Said they were not allowed any newspapers or TV and so they did not know what was going on in the world.

Of course, he is in basic training, but those boys should be allowed to have information also so that they can make an informed decision. How many of those 18 year olds really know what they just voted for? Obviously not many if my son's respones to me are the norm.

And you know what, my son wants to come out and he thinks the military is going to pay for his college. Did you happen to see the link I posted below about McCain voting against the extra funding for the GI bill? My son did not have a chance to find that out before he voted...


I don't know who thinks they are the
highly educated on this board, you or gourdpainter. You 2 have a lot in common! You really do need a breath of fresh air, honey. They sure didn't teach you about respect in that (now get ready) college...
Thank you! And anyone who still thinks he's
a Muslim is an uninformed idi*t. I wish people would at least educate themselves before voting....
Me thinks you are right......... sm
Might want to hit the farm and ranch store and stock up on seeds for planting come spring. And hang on to those newspapers.......just in case! LOL
I think we all know how well he thinks
showed us this at his big fiasco on the Rick Warren special, which was the only time during the entire campaign he was caught without his teleprompter. He stuttered and stammered half of his time away instead of answering the questions. And now, his so-called press conferences are prearranged. He knows who he is going to call on when he steps on stage and I feel sure he has given the reporters the questions they are allowed to ask. He is one sly, smooth-talking devil alright, and you betcha, he thinks about what he is going to say carefully before he says it!
So now you know what God thinks...wow...

To use your God to promote prejudice...Christian?  Christian means to follow Christ..and Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking.  Get away from me!!!


No - he just THINKS he is on TV
He's only that great in his own mind.

Actually most of the posts in support of TS are just TS using different monikers. Read some of them, you will see the pattern...
Oh and I really DON'T care what he thinks. sm
I mean none of us really should, liberal or conservative.  I don't know about you, but as I hit the middle ages of my life, I have way more to worry about than what some overpaid actor thinks about anything.  It just isn't real h igh on my list of things I care about.  Now that I am back in school, and really struggling to find a career that will last me the rest of my life, I have even less time for things like this. 
I cannot argue with someone who thinks as you do.
You decry killing of innocent civilians when they are Muslim only.  Israeli have lived with killings for decades. Where was your pain then? 
Not everyone follows what the pope thinks
...
Well, wonder what the general thinks about...
the 500 metric tons of yellowcake uranium that was just moved out of Iraq to Canada...Ms. Valerie Plame said during that big scandal that Hussein did not even have access to it...and now we have...uh...500 metric tons of it removed from Iraq. The Bush Administration and new Iraqi government kept it secret so the terrorists operating there would not target it until they could get it out of there. Got any idea how much 500 metric tons is? There's your reality check. Hussein was everything Clinton and his admin and Bush and his admin said he was. And he DID have WMD...he used it on his own people. Reality check indeed.

As to abortion...and Roe vs. Wade. Roe vs. Wade is illegal on its face. Activist judges struck down a law and made a new one, and they cannot do that by the Constitution. Only the COngress on state and federal level can enact law. FOr that reason alone it should be struck down.
It's all about choice? Then why can a mother drown a 2-day-old baby and that's murder? That's a choice as well. Why can't a person just shoot someone they find annoying and inconvenient? That's a choice.

Maybe it is not a priority to you, my friend. It is to me. So you vote for the man who will give you the right to choose, and I will vote for the man who at some point will stand up for the Constitution and not install activist judges who pick and choose which parts of the Constitution to uphold.
Better than a mortal who thinks....
he is God.
Me thinks he has been scrutinized
very well, and everything they come up with has been shown to be lies or fantasy.  Ask yourself why congressmen would endorse Obama if there was something to hide, i.e. Muslim, extremist, Ayers, whatever else you would like to throw at him. Now they're saying he grew up in Pakistan.  Silly season.