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Cat-food's starting to look good. When that runs

Posted By: out, might consider eating the cats. on 2008-11-13
In Reply to: strategies for coping with the depression - I also have a question




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Totally digging the food safety overhaul - no more downed cows. Good job Obama! sm

I didn't vote for Obama, I was one of those on the fencers.  But I must say one thing I am impressed with so far is his complete overhaul of the US food safety system and the new rule of no downed cows being put into our food system.


Some things should just be common sense, and they weren't being implemented.  Good job Obama!


Food pantries are running out of food, charity

donations are way down.


In this situation, people can't help other people if they can't help themselves.


Anyone who runs a business knows there is
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Road runs both ways......... sm
Time will tell.
The candidate who runs from the economy during a meltdown
it is plain to see which side of the fence the hate is coming from.
I prefer watching re-runs of Colin Powell's
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No, he runs for office with a dupa who is bilking her own state......

Who ran up a huge deficit when she was mayor.........who the GOP had to buy a wardrobe for the whole family, that was supposed to be donated to charity............lies, lies and more lies.


And I am just starting, and the Big O just
one more brainwash session. It's a good thing he is depending on the young folks for his votes!
and I was just starting to like the guy
what with all his stories of cowboys and Mandela and movies and all that. He'll be hosting a show on Fox next, you watch.
I am really starting to think all you have to do to get
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Starting a world war?
No, your President is doing that for you. 
I thought most were starting to know better than this. sm
1000 lies later and you still believe the bull. McCain is Bush on steroids. No wonder everybody is calling Americans a bunch of sheep. All I can say is you will get what you deserve. The "free" will not be around much longer, and you will not have money either once the economy crashes,and it will.
hil's starting to look a lot like Huckabee
her best hope is to be Obama's VP at this point.  I think with that ticket they would be unstoppable
Thanks sam - at least I have a starting point - nm
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I think there are a lot of people who are starting to...sm
feel just as you do. I have gotten to the point where I just don't have the time or the energy to answer some of the ridiculous accusations against Obama.

I realize that Obama is not perfect, none of us is, and in the course of campaigning the truth gets stretched on both sides. However, never have I seen the like of the untrue garbage being spewed with such hate as this campaign by the republican party. It seems that the more desperate the campaign gets the worse and the more laughable the accusations get. One big thing that I have gotten from this campaign, as well as the financial meltdown, is that the people in control think that the rest of us are stupid and will buy anything they dish out to us. There are actually people that think everything that is on the internet is true. Not true! We need to keep questioning everything and hold our politicians feet to the fire, look for reliable sources of information not just ones that tell us what we want to hear, double check everything, and, lastly, try to be nicer to each other. Amen.
Thugocracy is starting already...nm

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Looks like the fights are already starting in the WH

between Pelosi and the O.


"The California Democrat is pushing the president-elect to make good on a campaign promise that attracted some of the harshest criticism during the election -- that Mr. Obama is a typical tax-and-spend Democrat who would raise taxes once in office.


Mr. Obama has fought that label, emphasizing that any tax increase would be directed at those making more than $250,000. However, since the election, Mr. Obama has been reluctant even to raise taxes on people making that much.


Lawrence Summers, Mr. Obama's choice for director of the National Economic Council, signaled again Sunday that repealing the Bush tax cuts would not be a priority.


"Our overall focus is going to be on increasing spending," Mr. Summers said in a broadcast interview. "Beyond that, there's going to be a substantial tax cut for the American people."


See article.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123229863849393891.html


OMG. JTBB, I'm starting to believe

you're a blind dem. The aboe poster stated his/her thoughts and most of them are true to form. If you don't belive in your country, you are not patriotic. Just because some of us don't believe O is going to do a good job is not a reason to call someone a loon.


I decided, after he was elected, to give him a chance, bvut all I can see is that he is digging us deeper in the hole. I though the bill passed the other day would help some people who were in deep trouble even though they did everything right, would get help...but, again, O is just helping the people who really didn't deserve help. I think you should wake up and start reading a bit more and/or listening a bit more to those who know what is really going on in this country.


A bit of advice... if you have any money in your bank over $100K, you best get it out of there. Although the FDIC is promising a guarantee up to $250K temporarily, the money will not be guaranteed if the country goes broke IMHO.


 


Starting at the top and working their way down........sm
the Bill of Rights? If the government can do this, you can well believe they can strip other religious freedoms and move right on down the line to the right to bear arms and whatever else they would like to strip away. Thomas Jefferson said it best (loosely quoted) - "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to can take everything you have."
Starting to understand, yes, why O got in.
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Why don't you find it for yourself, starting with the
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How about apologizing for starting...(sm)

a needless war and trying to drag Europe into it?  Showing pics of soldiers graves does nothing but bring to mind the effects of waging this unjust war.  How about apologizing for not doing something about our economy until it was too late (which affected the whole world)?


So, you are defending what?  Bush's war on terror/axis of evil?  Torture?  Lying to the American public as well as the UN?  Or perhaps our inadequacy in successfully handling our economy since the start of the Reagan era?


Food for thought

 


If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.
St. Francis of Assisi


He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his dealings wtih animals.


Immanuel Kant








 


 


More food for thought. Another

WASHINGTON, Sept. 28 — Democrats and their allies mapped out a strategy on Friday that they hoped would enable them to override President Bush’s expected veto of a bipartisan bill providing health insurance for 10 million children, most of them in low-income families.


Democratic leaders said they would highlight the contrast between the president’s request for large sums of money for the Iraq war and his opposition to smaller sums for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, known as Schip.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, said, “It’s ironic that in the very same week that the president says he’s going to veto the bill because we can’t afford it, he is asking, what, for $45 billion more over and above his initial request for the war in Iraq, money that we know is being spent without accountability, without a plan for how we can leave Iraq.”


Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, said, “This is all a matter of priorities: the cost of Iraq, $333 million a day; the cost of Schip, $19 million a day.”


The campaign for the legislation will also include grass-roots advocacy and political advertisements, and will initially focus on about 15 House Republicans who voted against the bill. Supporters of the legislation hope to persuade them to switch.


But House Republican leaders said they felt sure they could sustain the veto, and two lawmakers on the Democrats’ list said that they would support Mr. Bush.


The bill passed this week by the House and the Senate would provide $60 billion for the program over the next five years, up $35 billion from the current level of spending. On Wednesday, the administration said it would seek $42 billion more for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, bringing its total request to nearly $190 billion for the 2008 fiscal year, which begins Monday.


In an interview on Friday, the House Republican whip, Roy Blunt of Missouri, said there was “a 100 percent probability” that the House would sustain the president’s veto.


But, Mr. Blunt said, the coincidental timing of the vote on the child health bill and the request for money in Iraq “was not helpful.”


The White House, on the defensive, is trying to bolster Republicans who fear they might be penalized by voters if they side with the president.


Dana Perino, the White House press secretary, said Friday, “It is preposterous for people to suggest that the president of the United States doesn’t care about children, that he wants children to suffer.”


Ms. Perino said the president had a policy difference with Democrats in Congress because he did not want “additional government-run health care, socialized-type medicine.”


Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who helped write the bill, said he would reach out to House Republicans and urge them to override the veto.


“This bill is not socialized medicine,” Mr. Grassley said. “Screaming ‘socialized medicine’ is like shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. It is intended to cause hysteria that diverts people from reading the bill, looking at the facts.”


The battle will be fought in the House, where the child health bill was approved on Tuesday by a vote of 265 to 159 — well short of the two-thirds majority that would be needed to override a veto.


Ms. Pelosi called Mr. Bush on Friday and said she was praying he would sign the bill.


But Mr. Blunt said: “I bet she’s praying for him not to sign it. The bill is all about politics. It’s pretty good politics for the Democrats.”


Still, Democrats face an uphill fight to persuade Republicans to change their votes. Supporters would need 289 yes votes to enact the bill over the president’s objections if all the members were voting.


The House now has 433 members and two vacant seats.


One of the Republicans singled out for special attention by Democrats was Representative Judy Biggert, from a suburban Chicago district. She was one of 16 Republicans who signed a letter to the speaker last week, urging her to take up the Senate version of the child health bill.


The compromise closely followed the Senate version, but Mrs. Biggert voted against it, saying, “It would push Americans one step closer to socialized medicine.”


In an interview on Friday, Mrs. Biggert said she would vote to sustain the veto.


Democrats said they would also focus their efforts on Republicans like Representatives Timothy V. Johnson of Illinois, John R. Kuhl Jr. of New York, Thaddeus McCotter of Michigan and H. James Saxton of New Jersey.


Mr. McCotter said he was a big supporter of the child health program, but would vote to uphold the president’s veto, even if critics ran television advertisements against him.


Under the bill, the federal excise tax on cigarettes would be increased to $1 a pack, from the current 39 cents.


“I vowed never to raise taxes on anybody, no matter how disliked they might be,” Mr. McCotter said in an interview. He said he would rather be voted out of office than go back on his promises to constituents.


Republican senators who worked on the compromise bill, like Mr. Grassley and Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, said they had tried in vain to persuade White House officials to join the negotiations.


Ms. Perino, the White House spokeswoman, said that after vetoing the bill, Mr. Bush would like to “sit down and come to a compromise” with Congress.


The Senate Democratic leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, said the president should not hold his breath waiting for such a deal. Democrats, he said, have already made many concessions to keep the support of Senate Republicans.


Whatt?? ( don't know where that dog food ad
???
Some food for thought.

A lot of times a "no" vote comes from some hidden provision that doesn't jive with the candidates' personal policies, i.e. it might not be that they disagree with the issue, but instead that they disagree with the strategy proposed to tackle it.


or use them to protect the food I have.
just a thought.
We don't buy dog food anymore....
and that saves a lot of money.
A day's wages for a day's food.......... sm
Ring any bells?
Healthy food...........sm
does not necessarily mean prime cuts of meat and exotic fruits and vegetables. Like the other poster mentioned, meats can be bought on sale and frozen for up to 6 months. Fruits and veggies can be also. Food dehydrators are also good to use for fruit bought in season. Just dehydrate it and then it can be used during the off season. Dried apples and apricots, for example, can be quite expensive in the stores, but dehydrate a sack of apples and you will have enough apples to last for a while to make pies or just to eat out of hand. A bag of apples at $3.99 is a lot more filling and goes further than a bag of chips at $3.99.
It should be for healthy food........... sm
because the same folks that load up their shopping carts with chips and soda and junk food on food stamps will be the same ones we have to provide medical care through Medicaid for because they have clogged arteries and poor digestive tracks and diabetes.

If I want to take my hard earned money and buy a bunch of junk and clog my arteries, the insurance that I pay for will (somewhat) take care of me. That is my choice and my business. As long as my tax dollars are going to feed others and take care of their health damaged by eating junk, I feel the government has every right to dictate what they eat.
Just some food for thought.
President Barack Obama said in Turkey : "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/god-constitutions.htm


I'm not sure if this website has any politicial affiliation (I couldn't find one), but I checked several of the states constitutions out and they were spot on.  Now, I'm not a Bible thumper (or even attend church regularly), but I thought this was interesting considering Obama's speech.  


Please note that at no time in any of these constitutions is anyone told that they MUST worship God.


 


Bet there was enough food to feed quite a few
This crowd in Washington (and I mean BOTH the Washington politicos and the Washington press) just don't get it, do they? For someone who was supposed to be so "politically savvy", BO has shown repeatedly that he has a political tin ear.
Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board.  Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton?  Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican.  Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism.  Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has?  That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?.  Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..?  Socialism?  The govt must help the people of this country.  We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America.  I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
That's like starting a forum for pet lovers

And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones!  Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive. 


What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present?  How ridiculous!


i like the idea of starting at the bottom
giving the common people a break rather than sticking us from behind. I don't know what the monetary amount should be per mortgage. I heard Whoopi this morning throwing out the idea of 25% to the people who have taken out mortgages since 2003. One of the gals on the view also talked about these people who were given these loans that were very low interest at the beginning and then after a few years had the interest raised. Why can't the mortgage companies offer them a lower interest rate again? At least they would be getting something!! They are all greedy. I think the idea of bailing the mortgage companies out is disgusting. I realize people should never get in over their heads to begin with but these mortgage companies and any government official who had a hand in it were out for themselves, thinking in the end they were going to win..... no loss to them.... well guess what? they got a little too greedy and I think rather than slapping their little hands, THEY should be the ones to pay the price. I don't care if it's Rush's idea, Whoopi's, etc... How about for once our government listens to the PEOPLE of this country rather than looking out for their own butts.
Ohio is already starting to vote
Just heard on the news that in Ohio they have already starting holding the election and people can vote for president.  I don't know who this benefits and don't care at this point, but I thought election day was 11/4.  Can someone explain why people are allowed to vote ahead of time.
I am afraid he is going to let people down, already starting.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/


Obama plans to kill expectations.


Starting at the community level......... sm
is a great thing to do and I am proud of you for the work you do. I have read here before some of the things you are involved in, and you are making a difference in your community. I'll be right here, ready and willing! LOL
It's a meltdown, and heads are starting

to explode!


People are starting to see that the amazing O
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Takes Americans a while, but they are starting to
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Apparently food is not the only thing she
She has no class whatsoever...maybe she is the love child of Pat Robertson and some cheap hooker?

Check this out: http://www.bettybowers.com/coulter.html#Anchor-Thi-12323

A little over the top but funny.
food for thought...go to this site:
compares the campaign planes.

http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/obama-campaign-plane-vs-mccain-campaign-plane/

Cut and paste into your browser. This would suggest that perhaps Mr. Obama does have a problem with the American flag. It does to me.
Obama and Iraqi oil for food...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_iraqi_oil_for_food_conn.html
More like food for the garbage disposal.
smoldering racists that mobilize race baiting hoaxters and cyberspace KKK assassination plots are intimidation of the most dangerous and destructive kind. Biden's bystep of a health reporter married to a republican campaign strategiest whose questions have nothing to do with health, rather spew a laundry list of pub smear campaign tactics, designed to intimidate, is entirely appropriate. The cancellation of future interviews with tribal cultural warriors who would flame the fires of division is the only responsible action to take. Why pump wind into those hot air balloons?

Background checks of pub plant shams aimed as exposing desperate disingenous pub camp stunts should have been antcipated....but McC camp is not real big on careful vetting protocols. Your fringe blog puke about threats to O's detractors fall into the category of Biden's bystep. Will not dignify this divisive drum beat with further comment.
Well, then, don't shoot somebody for stealing your food. LOL
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More food for thought on coal

I just watched the video where he stated he was going to put such high caps and make the coal industries pay mucho dollars and hopefully bankrupt the coal industry. BUT, he also stated he would use dollars they must pay if they want to use coal, for clean energy policies like wind power, etc.


 So, that said, how does he intend to pay for all his other energy technology if he bankrupts the coal industry and businesses that use coal? After all, if he bankrupts the businesses that use coal which, by the way, is most electric power plants, whose pocket will he be dipping into for the money for his clean energy policies???


Talking out of both sides of his mouth again.


Food stamps will HELP the economy?
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Well don't really call chips and pop food. sm
I agree there needs to be stricter rules with regards what can be bought with foodstamps.  On the other hand, as I stated, these people don't want to work, will not work. They'll take it from you one way or another, either through government programs or at the point of a gun.
Can buy soda with food stamps

I just asked my son's girlfriend who works at a grocery store if you can buy soda with food stamps and she said yes-no wine or beer, no toilet paper, shampoo or other nonedible things and no cigarettes, but soda and candy, chips, yes.