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It's a meltdown, and heads are starting

Posted By: grams on 2009-01-10
In Reply to: You cannot have it both ways. On one hand you...sm - oldtimer

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Chris is on the way to a meltdown
Not only was he rude but he's getting worse and worse as the democrats ratings keep dropping. Talk about a pit bull (without lipstick). He's attacking his guests not giving them a chance to answer the questions. That's not "pinning someone to the wall like a bug". That's just rude. He should ask the guest a question, let him answer, and then respond to his answer. To badger and not let your guest answer a question you ask while giving free reighn (sp?) to the democratic guest is just pure horse hockey. After today I no longer watch his show. I want some truth and clear cut answers and I believe every guest should be allowed to answer a question in full without the host bullying him (which by the way I do not believe Obama called Sarah a pig). Still is no excuse for Mathews to act like that. He's supposed to be a host and treat both sides fairly. That he does not do. He did this to other guests and luckily they said to him let me answer your question. MSNBCs ratings are going down the tube and they just lost one more viewer.
We are broke now in an economic meltdown and
post-911 mindset. There is only one way out for those who look forward to what lays beyond that quagmire. I'll give you a hint. It does not involve a right turn.
Okay....let's see...McCain picked the financial meltdown...
as the #1 issue. OBama picked his run for the Presidency. Meaning he is always going to put Barack first. McCain put his country first. End of story.
The candidate who runs from the economy during a meltdown
it is plain to see which side of the fence the hate is coming from.
I prefer the definition of economic meltdown.
Ignore it and your campaign will go down in flames.
Bush is the one that CAUSED this economic meltdown.
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Fact remains....McCain saw this meltdown coming....
and the Dems would not listen. They did not want to upset the golden apple cart. And we the people are left holding the bag. Do I want one of them in the white house while we are trying to work our way out of this? No way, no how, nobama.
In the current economic meltdown....he has to inspire confidence...
fortunately for me, I am reaping the benefits of one of his agendas. I would be absolutely THRILLED if he can accomplish it all within the time limits he has imposed upon himself - but, he has an army of congress to aid our progress - how much will the pubs obstruct? I guess we will have to wait to see. I could pisss in my cheerios and embrace your negativity but I'd rather go to bed and have fabulous sex with my husband - we have something to celebrate.
Wrong. Democrats are responsible for the mortgage meltdown, not Bush....
McCain tried to tell them in 2005...Dems blocked the regulation he begged for for Fannie/Freddie. But the Dems were too deep in the pockets...Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, James Johnson, Timothy Howard...all democrats, all walked away from fannie Mae with golden parachutes of millions...and we are left holding the bag. Fannie contributed more to Chris Dodd, Democratic head of Banking and COmmerce committe than any other senator in the past 20 years...followed closely by Barack Obama, who has only been IN the senate for 2 years...you do the math and follow the money. Democrats largely responsible for this. ANd you want to put one in the white house. Who wants to raise taxes in this financial crisis. What part of collapse of the economy don't you...and Mr. Obama...understand?
Still, nobody puts a gun to their heads

and makes them sign on the dotted line.  You can always change your phone number and address.


Personaly, I don't believe much of that crap you're posting is true.  I know recruiters can be persistent, but all this conspiracy theory is just that, conspiracy.


Heads up on PA taxes

Everyone has to know about this. I posted this on the tax board and main board, too. If PA gets away with this, all states are liable to start doing it.


How desperate are the governors getting? PA sent out tax forms to everyone that bought cigarettes from a Native American reservation and they want their tax money. One woman in PA was hit up for over $4,800 and last week, they slapped a Sheriff's Sale sign on her property.


Now, my DH received a letter today. They want anyone in business who bought anything from out-of-state companies (office supplies, equipment, tools, etc.) that don't reciprocate taxes to PA, to pay up. This doesn't just apply to last year. This goes all the way back to 1981!!! Since when, since records do not have to be kept after a certain amount of years, how can they do this?  DH doesn't have to worry about it that much. He usually always buys in PA.


I certainly do not have any receipts back to 1981 when I was an IC!


It's bad enough the governor is "threatening" to raise property taxes if he can't pass the higher income tax, but now this. I think our state government should stop the spending like he's always done. We're broke, yet he keeps handing out money.


What kind of government do you call this? More like communism than socialism. They can kiss my butt. I paid sales tax every year I was an IC since we had to charge clients 6% and had a client I didn't know was tax exampt. So they received almost $4000 extra from me, which my great financial advisor at the time did not deduct the extra off our income taxes.


Their accusations as empty as their heads.
That was how they managed to cow the opposition on the other board, Reader - by initiating shocking personal attacks, maybe you recall that if you were there.

But I totally agree with you, you can't fend off a pack of snarling wolves with toy gun - predictable that that is what they WISH we would do . You can't be courteous to them because they see that as a sign of weakness and take it as the signal to go in for the kill. Then they call you hateful if you point out what a lawless and opportunistic group they really are.
We should hang our heads in shame that
xoxoxo
Heads up Governor Schwarzenegger!!!!

If you want to resolve most of the problems in California, how about trying to boot all all the illegals and their anchor babies with all the freebies they are not entitled to, all the jobs they are taking away from legal citizens, and stop giving them free healthcare, free money, free shelter, free subsidies, all NOT FREE TO ME!!!


 


Obey the law and kick them out and that would take care of most of your financial woes!


Exactly!.. Obama="cut off our heads, but sorry
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Conservative talking heads at it again...(sm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uaK4ZXvClE


Anyone see a theme here? 


Do not fall for this hysteria... we all need calm heads
or we will all be in trouble, republican and democrats.  This is becoming the perfect storm for socialism if we do not stop being led around by those trying to play on our emotions. 
Well, then. That explains why calling them towel heads
do a pretty good "blend" themselves and many among us find them every bit as scary as Jihadist terrorists...does not justify calling all Christians Bible-thumping idiots, hate-mongering racists, bigoted boobs and the like, now does it?
We do not purposely kill, cut off heads, torture.
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Heads up Bush and Cheney lovers...(sm)
from what I understand, the govt will be releasing more of the redacted portions of the torture memos on Friday.  Soon to be followed by more info.  Hold onto your hats. 
Me thinks some people's brains do not reside in their heads. nm
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I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out
You people deny that the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.  Do some objective research!!  They most certainly DID cause the crisis!  You deny that the voter fraud from ACORN is a big deal, and that they are not trying to sway the election to any particular side!!!  There were over 200,000 fraudulent votes in Ohio alone!!  I was watching on CNN about this (the station that NEVER says anything negative towards liberals), and they were even talking about what a huge problem this is.  They showed a ballot with the name of Jimmie Johns.  They found the address, and it was Jimmie Johns restaurant - and there are 10s of thousands of ballots like this.  And who worked for ACORN?  Yup - the people's Messiah Obama.  And somehow you all will find a way to minimize this and twist the facts, and probably blame me for telling this to you...
You must spend more time listening to talking heads

Heads dems win, tails pubs lose. I'm just sayin'........

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And I am just starting, and the Big O just
one more brainwash session. It's a good thing he is depending on the young folks for his votes!
and I was just starting to like the guy
what with all his stories of cowboys and Mandela and movies and all that. He'll be hosting a show on Fox next, you watch.
I am really starting to think all you have to do to get
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Starting a world war?
No, your President is doing that for you. 
I thought most were starting to know better than this. sm
1000 lies later and you still believe the bull. McCain is Bush on steroids. No wonder everybody is calling Americans a bunch of sheep. All I can say is you will get what you deserve. The "free" will not be around much longer, and you will not have money either once the economy crashes,and it will.
hil's starting to look a lot like Huckabee
her best hope is to be Obama's VP at this point.  I think with that ticket they would be unstoppable
Thanks sam - at least I have a starting point - nm
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I think there are a lot of people who are starting to...sm
feel just as you do. I have gotten to the point where I just don't have the time or the energy to answer some of the ridiculous accusations against Obama.

I realize that Obama is not perfect, none of us is, and in the course of campaigning the truth gets stretched on both sides. However, never have I seen the like of the untrue garbage being spewed with such hate as this campaign by the republican party. It seems that the more desperate the campaign gets the worse and the more laughable the accusations get. One big thing that I have gotten from this campaign, as well as the financial meltdown, is that the people in control think that the rest of us are stupid and will buy anything they dish out to us. There are actually people that think everything that is on the internet is true. Not true! We need to keep questioning everything and hold our politicians feet to the fire, look for reliable sources of information not just ones that tell us what we want to hear, double check everything, and, lastly, try to be nicer to each other. Amen.
Thugocracy is starting already...nm

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Looks like the fights are already starting in the WH

between Pelosi and the O.


"The California Democrat is pushing the president-elect to make good on a campaign promise that attracted some of the harshest criticism during the election -- that Mr. Obama is a typical tax-and-spend Democrat who would raise taxes once in office.


Mr. Obama has fought that label, emphasizing that any tax increase would be directed at those making more than $250,000. However, since the election, Mr. Obama has been reluctant even to raise taxes on people making that much.


Lawrence Summers, Mr. Obama's choice for director of the National Economic Council, signaled again Sunday that repealing the Bush tax cuts would not be a priority.


"Our overall focus is going to be on increasing spending," Mr. Summers said in a broadcast interview. "Beyond that, there's going to be a substantial tax cut for the American people."


See article.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123229863849393891.html


OMG. JTBB, I'm starting to believe

you're a blind dem. The aboe poster stated his/her thoughts and most of them are true to form. If you don't belive in your country, you are not patriotic. Just because some of us don't believe O is going to do a good job is not a reason to call someone a loon.


I decided, after he was elected, to give him a chance, bvut all I can see is that he is digging us deeper in the hole. I though the bill passed the other day would help some people who were in deep trouble even though they did everything right, would get help...but, again, O is just helping the people who really didn't deserve help. I think you should wake up and start reading a bit more and/or listening a bit more to those who know what is really going on in this country.


A bit of advice... if you have any money in your bank over $100K, you best get it out of there. Although the FDIC is promising a guarantee up to $250K temporarily, the money will not be guaranteed if the country goes broke IMHO.


 


Starting at the top and working their way down........sm
the Bill of Rights? If the government can do this, you can well believe they can strip other religious freedoms and move right on down the line to the right to bear arms and whatever else they would like to strip away. Thomas Jefferson said it best (loosely quoted) - "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to can take everything you have."
Starting to understand, yes, why O got in.
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Why don't you find it for yourself, starting with the
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How about apologizing for starting...(sm)

a needless war and trying to drag Europe into it?  Showing pics of soldiers graves does nothing but bring to mind the effects of waging this unjust war.  How about apologizing for not doing something about our economy until it was too late (which affected the whole world)?


So, you are defending what?  Bush's war on terror/axis of evil?  Torture?  Lying to the American public as well as the UN?  Or perhaps our inadequacy in successfully handling our economy since the start of the Reagan era?


Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board.  Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton?  Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican.  Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism.  Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has?  That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?.  Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..?  Socialism?  The govt must help the people of this country.  We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America.  I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
That's like starting a forum for pet lovers

And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones!  Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive. 


What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present?  How ridiculous!


i like the idea of starting at the bottom
giving the common people a break rather than sticking us from behind. I don't know what the monetary amount should be per mortgage. I heard Whoopi this morning throwing out the idea of 25% to the people who have taken out mortgages since 2003. One of the gals on the view also talked about these people who were given these loans that were very low interest at the beginning and then after a few years had the interest raised. Why can't the mortgage companies offer them a lower interest rate again? At least they would be getting something!! They are all greedy. I think the idea of bailing the mortgage companies out is disgusting. I realize people should never get in over their heads to begin with but these mortgage companies and any government official who had a hand in it were out for themselves, thinking in the end they were going to win..... no loss to them.... well guess what? they got a little too greedy and I think rather than slapping their little hands, THEY should be the ones to pay the price. I don't care if it's Rush's idea, Whoopi's, etc... How about for once our government listens to the PEOPLE of this country rather than looking out for their own butts.
Ohio is already starting to vote
Just heard on the news that in Ohio they have already starting holding the election and people can vote for president.  I don't know who this benefits and don't care at this point, but I thought election day was 11/4.  Can someone explain why people are allowed to vote ahead of time.
I am afraid he is going to let people down, already starting.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/


Obama plans to kill expectations.


Starting at the community level......... sm
is a great thing to do and I am proud of you for the work you do. I have read here before some of the things you are involved in, and you are making a difference in your community. I'll be right here, ready and willing! LOL
People are starting to see that the amazing O
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Takes Americans a while, but they are starting to
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They're not happy unless they are starting trouble.

They don't want to debate.  All they want to do is attack and chase away people who don't agree with them.  They don't want liberals on their board, but they refuse to practice what they preach. 


This is the reason the administrator created a conservative and liberal board.  They have their own board, but that's not enough for them.  It's typical of how they must control everyone's thoughts and deeds and even which God they worship.


Cat-food's starting to look good. When that runs

I'm starting to feel a little cranky towards these folks

The Mormon Church.


I came across this article last night:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/11/baptizing.dead.jews.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


NEW YORK (AP) -- Holocaust survivors said Monday they are through trying to negotiate with the Mormon church over posthumous baptisms of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps, saying the church has repeatedly violated a 13-year-old agreement barring the practice.


snip


In 1995, Mormons and Jews inked an agreement to limit the circumstances that allow for the proxy baptisms of Holocaust victims. Ending the practice outright was not part of the agreement and would essentially be asking Mormons to alter their beliefs, church Elder Lance B. Wickman said Monday in an interview with reporters in Salt Lake City.


We don't think any faith group has the right to ask another to change its doctrines," Wickman said. "If our work for the dead is properly understood ... it should not be a source of friction to anyone. It's merely a freewill offering."


The Mormon Church was also a major financial backer (I think THE major financial backer) of California Prop 8.


I am fully in favor of any religion observing their own doctrine within the bounds of the law. However, I also believe that their doctrine should be theirs and theirs alone. It cannot be an excuse or a reason for infringing on the civil or religious rights of others.


I'm starting to think you're punking us all, JTBB.
Really, fess up. You're just doing this for a laught, right? I mean, if you believed even 1/100th of the crappola you post here, you'd have to be either the most cultified brainwashed half-wit, or Obama's secret love child with a daddy fetish that's off the charts.

Everything O does makes you wet yourself with glee.

Anytime someone points out a legitimate beef with O, you become this juvenile neener-neener playground kid. Your arguments have absolutely no substance, yet you squat on plain hard facts when they are presented in a reasonable manner.

Or maybe you're just really, really high up in Oblahma's confidentiality circle. Like the Czar of MT Mesage Board Enlightenment or something. Do you get a twitter from the oval O every morning with the day's 'talking points' or something?

I'd love to introduce you to a certain lady on the message boards of the company I work for. She's an outright nutjob, and her parroted words are nearly identical to yours. Every time someone says, 'hey, whatever happened to that whole transparency thing' or 'didn't he say he was going to cut the pork and work across the aisle' she barks out the old Leftist Lunatic Word-A-Day calendar and spiels her precooked rant. (Her current fad is waterboarding.)

Oh, oh, I know! Maybe you're just a little bitty ACORN who hopes to grow up into a big bushy tree one day. Is that it? Honestly, I want to know. Cause, in all honesty, if you were actually SERIOUS about the junk you post here, you'd be a really, REALLY scary person.

Please just assure us all you're just havin' a laugh, and then we can all laugh along. You can't possibly be a mean-spirited as you come off in your posts. No one can, right?

Maybe you should spend more time hugging puppies or treat yourself to a nice ice-cream cone or something. You know? Lighten up and enjoy life. At this point, you're about the only one left dragging around that tired old YES WE CAN sign, and it must get awful heavy.

I'm sending happy thoughts your way.