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Dubai is lovely. I lived there. I have no idea what you are talking about! sm

Posted By: Nina on 2006-02-25
In Reply to: 21 ports!!! - Lurker

When were you there?   It had to have been a long long time ago because you are not describing the Dubai I know!


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I have no idea what you are talking about. nm
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You have no idea what you are talking about
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If you had any idea of what I was talking about....(sm)
you would realized that this was not an insult.....but wait....*us poor pubs just can't post anything without some dem posting some smart a$$ remark.*  Can you say DOUBLE STANDARD?
No idea what you're talking about -
...except the person who posted whatever it was on the conservative board, so why don't you take it up with that person ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD? You sure give yourself a lot of license coming here to bash everyone else over it, as if that's some kind of excuse.

Looks like the NeoCons are getting bored talking to each other...have to come here to troll instead. Had to happen!
Slighted Idea? What are you talking about?
Here's the only 'concept of the Civil Defense Force' that matters - because it's the one from Rahm Emanual himself.

"We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service.

Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs."

So forceably DRAFTING people into any branch of the military, even if it is the National Guard (which is the most similar to above) will not be tolerated in America.
You have no idea what you're talking about...(nm)
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Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
You sound like a blithering boob just parroting what the Huffington Post told you.

It's quite obvious you didn't check your facts, or do a moment's worth of research.




Bahrain is not Dubai. nm
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The truth is Bahrain is NOT Dubai.
So what is the problem?
Dubai may take over some US weapons plants

Doesn't this just give you a warm fuzzy?


Dubai's $1.2 Bln Bid for U.S. Weapons Maker Delayed (Update2)


By James Cordahi

March 20 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai, which agreed this month to sell its interest in U.S. ports, said its $1.2 billion takeover of a U.K. company with U.S. plants that make military equipment is delayed while the authorities investigate security concerns.


Dubai International Capital LLC, which is owned by the government of the Persian Gulf emirate, and Doncasters Group Ltd. agreed to delay the transaction by as many as two months from March 31 while government agencies review the purchase, Sameer Al Ansari, Dubai International's chief executive, said in an interview today.


``After what happened with Dubai Ports, the government is looking at this deal more closely,'' Al Ansari said after a press conference in Dubai announcing an agreement with HSBC Holdings Plc.


Dubai's bid may ignite a similar political furor in the U.S. to that the emirate's purchase of London-based Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. caused last month when DP World had to agree to sell interests in six U.S. terminals. Revenue from Doncasters' nine U.S. plants, which make parts for tanks and military aircraft, account for about 40 percent of total sales.


The derailing of the ports plan was a setback for President George W. Bush, who was rebuffed by fellow Republicans and stung by polls that showed strong public opposition to the sale. Dubai is one of seven sheikdoms making up the United Arab Emirates, from where two of the hijackers involved in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks came.


The Committee on Foreign Investment, a federal body which considers the sale of U.S. assets to foreign companies, started a more detailed 45-day investigation into the Doncasters agreement at the end of February, said Al Ansari.


Al Ansari declined to comment on whether the transaction will go through.


Dubai Investments


Dubai International last year spent $1 billion for a stake in DaimlerChrysler AG and 800 million pounds ($1.4 billion) for Tussauds Group, owner of London's Madame Tussauds waxworks museum.


Doncasters, which is based in Melbourne, England, has plants in Rincon, Georgia; Groton, Connecticut, and other U.S. sites. Its customers include Boeing Co. and General Electric Co., according to information on its Web site.


Gulf Arab governments, flush with record oil revenue, are spending billions of dollars on companies from South Korea to the U.S.


Kuwait's state-controlled PWC Logistics, which won a U.S. military contract last year worth as much as $14 billion to feed troops in Iraq, agreed in July to buy Santa Ana, California-based GeoLogistics Corp. for $454 million. GeoLogistics is an international freight management company with operations in more than 100 countries, according to its Web site.



To contact the reporter on this story:
James Cordahi in Dubai at cherifcord@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: March 20, 2006 06:35 EST


Lovely
hate, hate, hate is all you speak.
Yes. Just lovely.

Why don't we just cut out the middle man and directly hand over the USA to bin Laden on a silver platter?


As Bush is famous for saying, If you're not with us, you're against us.  It's become obvious Bush is now against us.


Another old saying holds particularly true in this case:  Money is the root of all evil.


The UAE now claims to be loyal to us.  Has it ever occurred to you that there are people in this world with such strict, maniacal religious convictions that they would lie, deceive, steal, kill or commit any other sin in order to advance those convictions?  You need look no further than the good ole' USA (or even these boards) to find that!


Is American security REALLY worth taking that kind of chance with?


Good grief!  Wake UP, people! 


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/22/bin-laden-uae-royals/


Have a lovely day.


Isn't it lovely????
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WOW! Lovely.
She's a lovely lady, all right. She wears clothes very well.
It sounds lovely...buh-bye now!
:)
What about the lovely people at Air America?

However, I guess you think they're just people spouting an opposing view.  If your theory about number doctoring is remotely true then why can't somebody doctor the numbers for Air America?  Of course, the liberals probably think there is a conspiracy against them (like they do everything else), so I won't waste my breath arguing that what you think is hate and strong language is actually people who are fed up with the ideology that is far left wing liberalism.  There are very few far left liberal citzens in America. Of there are regions where it's problem but most people are in the middle of the two extremes.  Most people believe in traditional American values and actually love their country and mostly trust government.  Both extremes don't trust their government at all.  There is a difference between trust and blind trust.  To blindly trust anyone is foolhardy, but to be so paranoid of any person in power who doesn't share your entire ideology is little on the derranged side.  I'm not saying anyone who doesn't support GWB is derranged. I'm just saying there are some extreme wackos out there who are obsessed with this president and believe he's the incarnation of Satan which is not true.


Anyway, I don't think you can dismiss the popular media outlets in this country.  What's popular is popular for a reason, and just because some of us feel that Fox News is more balanced and tune into Rush Limbaugh from noon to three doesn't make us haters.


Lovely piece of garbage.
Thanks for the confirmation. Here ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of bureaucratic professional. Where does it show that he has military experience, field experience? In essence by placing this post, you're saying that because he is highly educated (and that doesn't necessarily transpose to the highly intelligent), afforded certain posts in government, that is all that is required to take over and manage a country under insurgency? Hum....

So Armitage's principles weren't good enough for you?

Of course you take things at face value. I don't think you have asked a valid question yet. If you didn't take things at face value, I believe you would have more questions. But it seems that all you have are answers. Another hum....Perhaps, it is just a matter of who's face you're looking at isn't it?

Now, you go and have a nice day!
But such a lovely blue folder!
What a bunch of whack jobs those Republicans are! I hear that there was a lovely picture of a windmill in the folder but no numbers. Now that's the kind of budget the Republicans can vote for!

Maybe the final Republican budget will be done as a pictorial, so their base can understand it without every having been taught to read.
How could I forget?? lol. The lovely Randi Rhodes...
Randi Rhodes...Ann Coulter...pot...kettle...pot kettle....
Retards. Well aren't you a lovely person...
and those poor ole Mormons managed to sway over half your state? No offense, but what does that say about half your state? You don't think they really believed in what they were voting for, or those nasty ole mormons mesmerized them? What exactly ARE you saying? lol
In other words, you can't. Thanks for trying. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
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I have lived through this,

3 times. First the communists were coming to get us. We had to fight communism everywhere because they were going to take us all and make us reds. They could be here at any time. I remember safe shelter signs on buildings and personal bomb shelters and dictators claiming they would kill all our grandchildren. Nothing much happened. The second was Vietnam. Same thing, different year. We had to protect the world from communism again. We needed to fight them over there instead of over here.They were going to be on the beaches of California in a New York minute if we did not see this thing through. We got the same deal in 73 that we had on the table in 69 but because of arrogance, hubris, fear of the word failure, about 28,000 more soldiers died during that 4-year stint. We did not get anything more for the time, they died and nothing happened. Now its the terrorists. They can have a nuclear weapon here in 45 minutes. Saddam was in on 9/11. Blah, blah, blah. Conservatives have condemned this. I would hardly call Baker a liberal. Generals, people who actually know something about the geopolitics of the area, real Arab people, scholars, think its over and a done deal. I am not alone in this and you cannot blame the liberals for it either. The decider-in-chief apparently does not listen to anyone, especially not those of us on the left. I have been surprised he does not listen to those on his side. I still believe it was a mistake from the get go and I think we should leave yesterday.


About the crusades. Perhaps because you were not raised Catholic (assumption) you do not know how the crusades have been USED  to justify, rationalize or discredit Catholics and those very same crusaders, fact or no. The crusades have been USED as a great Catholic basher for years. We heard it a lot then, still do.


I really don't know why you come to the liberal board and say the things you do. My head is not in the sand. I know all the facts you do about the **islamofacists** (one of the silliest words I think I have ever heard). I see things differently and your belittling me will not change anything ever.


Obama has lived an

exlemplary moral life.  Only dirt anyone can sling is about other people whose paths he has crossed. Whoopie.  John McCain an old, worn out horn dog who wants to be seen as a happily married church goer.


 


 


I have lived in different places and I have never...
experienced that kind of wait times. But I suppose there are all sorts of different experiences. What I do know is that research, great medical schools, etc., become nonexistent. We train most of the world's doctors here now. That will change under socialized medicine. Quality of care will go down. And if you don't pay for it in a premium you will pay for it in taxes. Obama cannot tax the "rich" enough to pay for it all. It is just not possible. And if he keeps taxing them, more jobs are going overseas, more businesses going overseas...if health care is so great other places, why do people come HERE for the "best" care? Oh well...there is no use beating my head against a brick wall. You will not know what I am talking about until you are in it...unfortunately for all of us...it will then be too late.
Sorry about Scottsdale, I have lived
and sorry if I offended you.  My family still live in Scottsdale and Cave Creek. My dad lives in Troon North.  We used to live at 64th and Thunderbird Road and the last 12 years lived near Desert Ridge/Mayo Hospital.  Thank goodness we moved away.  We had enough of the change, heat, and the people.  Compared to where we live now, it is sooo much more nicer here and people much more friendly and courteous.  Tired of  trying to keep up with the Jones in Arizona.  I liked Arizona 20 years ago, but now you can have it. 
Sorry, I lived there for 28 years.
call it Snotsdale.  Out of habit.  By the way, you know the Kierland Commons where the Cheesecake Factory is?  Scottsdale Road and Greenway Road.  There is the hotel there, homes, and golf course.  Well that is where the Scottsdale Dump used to be.  Years ago, it was a desert and no one at Horizon High School would dare drive in that desert area or party out in the desert because of fear of toxic waste and now they built expensive homes, apartments, restaurants, shops and a golf course on the old Scottsdale Dump.     
You must have lived in Atlanta in the 30s
because I live inside the perimeter and never, ever have I seen such as you talk about. Back when MLK was killed, waited in line like everyone else- no one got out of line to let me go first. Why do you tell such things when it is not true at all. The people here live and work alongside each other and thank goodness we have really been spared much of what has gone on in years past in other towns. Remember our motto- the city too busy to hate?
Actually, I lived in Augusta
But visiting Atlanta in 2006 and witnessed this.
His father lived with him...
And he felt different feelings than just wanting a male friend.  He struggled with it from age 8 to 16 and finally came out.  He is 19 years old and openly gay now and was a VIRGIN by the way the last I heard, yep he has relationships with guys with no "sodomizing" involved, amazing huh, that it can be about something other than sex.  God forbid it just be that he actually has FEELINGS for the same sex.
Yes I do believe someone lived 800 years
Humans were not intended to die. Don't you get that? When God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, they were not meant to die. Sin is the reason we die. Sin corrupted the earth, and the people in it. That is where we get disease, famine, sickness, etc etc.

I don't have time to find the verses right now but either further in Genesis or one of the other first few books it talks about God shortening the life span because humans became corrupted and evil.

Evolution is just a theory. It has NEVER been proven.

You find it more reasonable to believe that we came from muck and a lightening bolt rather than that our Almighty God created us?

Do me a favor. Find an object in your house and smash it to a million pieces. Your remote for example. Now put it in a bag and shake it for a few minutes. Dump it out. Do you have a remote? No. You still have a bunch of junk. That's because someone had to CREATE that remote.

Evolution tells us that a bunch of rocks bounced around together, something exploded, and BAM there was life! Have you ever seen an explosion CREATE something?

And it does seem that all you want to do is prove that Christianity is a lie, since you would not discuss any further after someone gave you a reasonable answer:

"No, I will not discuss it further, not on this board and not on the Faith board.
The discussion stops right here."

So obviously you weren't concerned about having a conversation, you just wanted to state your opinions without any reasonable discussion.

Also, if we evolved from evolution, how did the first creature reproduce?
When I lived in town
I lived across the street from the girl scout leader that I mentioned. Do you think I was inconvenienced by the amount of vehicles there EVERY WEEK? You bet. Did the police come by and stop the little girls from meeting? No. And they never will, because no one feels threatened by the girl scouts.

I can't believe you are so vehemently denying what this is. You know dang well that if it was any other "not-for-profit" group, they would be left alone. For now.

You are saying along the same lines that if your daughter wanted to have a study group every week at her home with fifteen of her friends that you would go out and get a license for her to do so?

Have you ever lived in police state?

Because if you had you'd definitely be able to see the VAST difference between a police state and the American state.


Also, your one-world government theory about the Bush's doesn't sync with your view that Bush is alienating the rest of the world, but I guess you think because Bush wants democracy for the world he somehow is planning to take over the world.


Wow, you are very steeped in conspiracy theory I'll give you that.


I actually saw a leprechaun when I lived in Ireland.
I was on the moors about 10 kilometres from Kilkenny, and there he was, at the opening of a burrow next to a large stone. He was only there for a wee bit of time, and then he vanished into the bracken.
I lived in Israel for many years
and what has happened has more to do with the upcoming election in Israel than with the US. Check it out.
His Indonesian father adopted him who lived ONLY
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You lived in a town of 5000 people
know who you dated? Or did you just think they didn't know? LOL
My hand's up. I've lived in Palestine.
Not Israel, Palestine. I first arrived in the region September 29, 1982 in Madaya, a village near the border of Syria and Lebanon. You may recall that was 16 days after the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. My husband was involved in the humanitarian aid efforts there.

In case you do not recall, let me remind you. In accordance with an internationally brokered peace deal, Palestinians had surrendered their weapons and were deported from Beirut, leaving their families under the protection of a peace keeping force. The Israeli army invaded Beirut, violating the peace treaty, and some 3000 defenseless Palestinian women and children were rounded up in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila and were systematically murdered in cold blood. Israel killed more than 30,000 civilians in Beirut in the 1982 invasion and a half million people were driven from their homes.

Tens of thousands of them landed in Madaya. I was there with my husband for 19 months and watched as they administered the programs to relocate those refugees. During that time, we traveled to Nablus, Ramallah and Rafah and spent about 3 months in each place.

So, no, this is not about being PC. Bleeding heart? YOU BET. FYI, I still lose sleep over what I saw there.
You must be very proud to have roots in the land where the rivers run red with the blood of Palestine.
My apology,..didn't realize you lived in Sweden...nm
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I read on the link I posted that he lived in the building -
it said he lived there and had every right to be there. I am not sure where it is.
Then Again, how many would have lived and suffered atrocities if Hitler's mom had had an abortion
I am not trying to be flip or funny here, because it is not, but I do not think we can use that particular logic...just say that ALL life is precious, whether a baby grows up to be Einstein, Ghandi, or Charles Manson, it either must ALL be in God's hands because He is Creator of All, or there is no logic. Just wonder how everyone feels about the ultimate sanctity of life when it comes to capital punishment....

Don't get me wrong, I amy be a Democrate, but I am moderate and I DO believe, in instances such as the rape/murder/brulity of children, serial killers, etc, that putting a monster like this to sleep, as you would a rabid animal who will kill and destroy otherwise, is the best thing we can do for our sick society, not perfectly okay, but the best that can be done to protect others. But whenever I see this particular reason NOT to abort, it makes it sound as though if a child were retarded or slow, or even a sociopath (not a psychopath), it would be okay, PLAYING GOD IS PLAYING GOD in either case. IMHO
Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.

Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.

Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:

..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'

This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?

I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:

'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'

(BTW, I filled in some commas).

I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?

I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.




Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.

Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.

Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:

..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'

This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?

I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:

'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'

(BTW, I filled in some commas).

I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?

I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.




Adam lived ,after he produced Seth , for 800 years? What's that supposed to mean?
I am not bashing ANYBODY and ANYTHING, I just only expect the Bible to say the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH and not being a FAIRY TALE.

Isn't it all about creation theory versus evolution theory?
The evolution theory explains in a very believable way all of God's miracles as natural happenings.

Even your answer to my question: 'Whom did Cain marry and produce children with?' takes the explanation and defence from the evolution theory, I quote your explanation:

..' and yes. Cain married and reproduced with one of his sisters. At that time, incest would not have been an issue, as DNA and blood was pure, and the risk of disease and complications or birth defects was zero.'

This is the justification by the evolution theory. What about the creation theory? Brother sleeping with sister?

I want to emphasize that it was YOU who started with the bashing in this your post:

'But it sounds to me like you are just one of those that just wants to bash, with no real search for the truth at all, so thanks for not wasting anymore of my time.
And yeah, Christians can be snippy too, sometimes.'

(BTW, I filled in some commas).

I cannot believe this. It seems that YOU are the intolerant one.
You also believe that somebody can live 8OO years?!?

I am Roman Catholic and I believe in God.




When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.

It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.

Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
A better idea. SM
Make everyone register as many other sites do.  That way, you have to keep the sam identity.  As far as the rest, both sides are equally at fault.  Using the "They" term and the "You" term are shallow.  I doubt the board is under new management.  You allegation that posters got special treatment is another delusion.  But since you won't be responding to me, I guess I don't need to let that bother me.
You have know idea who or what *they* are. sm
I would not make such statements about something you know nothing about. You read a story, it said what you believed and you ran with it.  My gosh, how do you ever learn anything?   Do you think I judge all liberals by these people?  Freepers are large contributors to charities.  They have a race on now to get together donations for Katrina victims. They are huge supporters of the military.  I have been going to their site for years and I have never seen anyone threaten to kill anyone. But it's something you want to believe and so you will. It's too darn bad.  There are liberals who post there, too.  But, of course, you don't know that. 
First of all, you have no idea what I would do
Clinton wasn't my favorite president but I have never hated him with the vitriol that you on the left have hated Bush.

As far as Lurker's thoughts about Bush they are assertions and not proven fact and I for one think they are hogwash--not to mention grossly, grossly over exaggerated.

Is that enough of an answer for you? Probably not...nothing is ever enough for you all.
I think I get where you get this idea
It's because all the baseless charges against Bush have truly been baseless. Let's talk about the void-of-actual-fact USA Today article about the so-called NSA release of private information. That has pretty much been debunked and exposed as yet another attempt to cast doubt on Bush. There are numerous other examples, and let's not forget *Rathergate*

Just because liberal journalists have a vendetta for this president and aren't smart enough to get anymore than forged documents to back up their reports does not mean the press has given the president a free pass. They just suck as journalists. That's not Bush's fault.