required and mandatory if you want the $4000 for college - nm
Posted By: Amanda on 2008-11-14
In Reply to: NOT volunteer - you did not read the article - anonny
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REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET THE COLLEGE CREDIT! NM
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We murder 4000 innocent babies by abortion each
and every day, 50 million total so far in this country and counting, and now we will pay for abortions worldwide. Social Security is bankrupt but would not be if those 50 million innocent children had had a choice for life. No one can deny that fact.
Add it up: Abortion kills 4000 innocent babies each day. Queers do not populate.
I would definitely say we are practicing population control, and Obama gonna see we practice worldwide.
So.....3000-4000 rockets lobbed by Hamas into Israel...sm
in the last year, what about that? Does that bother you in the slightest?
Or in your twisted view of the world, please explain why that is A-0kay in your book.
So don't let them. It is not mandatory.
before working yourself into a tizzy. I can't believe you would complain about people not reading when you are the one who apparently does not comprehend what it says on BO's website, or do you just read opposing propaganda without verifying its accuracy?
but if it were mandatory,
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Yes, we have had CD, but no it has never been MANDATORY.
Get the difference?
Remeber the draft?
Gee, that went over well, didn't it?
look up def of required
The last time I knew "required" meant mandatory. And that WAS right off of is website, that is until people, that are not cloudy over O, started complaining about the "required" word and they changed it. But he is trying to get away with it. Talk to me in a year and tell me how you feel then. If I am wrong, I will admit it. Will you?
So if he did change it to not mandatory
I don't get the outrage. He did something that appeases his critics, but still they complain.
I didn't know anyone was required to
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Every politician should be required...
To take one year of American history and one year of world history before ever being allowed to run for any kind of public office. Then maybe they wouldn't keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
No one should ever be required to say a pledge to anyone or anything.
Pledges are personal choices. Being forced to recite one is the opposite of freedom.
Every child in every classroom has the right to refuse to pledge.
required to hate??
What Christian religion is that - mine sure does not require me to hate. Mine teaches me to love. And yes, it is quite possible to hate the sin and love the sinner. That is what God does every day. Ask anyone who has ever loved a drug addict, an abuser, someone who lied, someone who shoplifted something, etc., etc., etc. You can hate their behavior but still love the person. And of course it is judging to say something is disgusting. that is your opinion, not everyone else's. Thus, it is a judgment, not a fact. Have you yourself never sinned in any way? Did you expect people to them hate you because they may have hated what you did? Of are you above everyone else?
MANDATORY HEALTH INSURANCE
You said it so well! It will bring everyone down too. What about more sliding scale clinics? We have one where I live and the care is quite good. They have patients from all income levels. Maybe we should give more tax breaks to those sliding scale clinics and encourage people with good insurance and lots of money to attend those clinics more often in order that others with less can afford decent care. I wish the Clintons would quit trying to force their health care ideas down our throats. Maybe they want us all to be socialists? By the way in case you have not guessed by now I am a Lifelong Republican, soon to be a right wing independent unless Fred or Duncan Hunter win. No one should be "forced" to get health insurance, especially one of the "crap" varieties that you mention in your post.
Brazoria county now mandatory.
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Abortion should be mandatory in a case like that
It is mandatory for graduation in our school
The key words are mandatory and require
This is not "volunteer". This is not "you get a choice". This is a requirement and you don't have a say.
Here is a statement about the Hitler youth's written by someone who lived under it:
School children were officially 'encouraged' to join by school teachers,
party members. parents, government etc.
It was a fun thing to do with marching, singing, drums, bugles, target
practice, summer encampments etc. Things a kid would love to do.
Members were selected for inclusion, those of doubtful ancestry were not
permitted to join, members were led to feel they were a of a select
group, the future of Germany
It was the right thing to do, there was little analytical divergent
outspoken opinion permitted or opposition to joining as there might well
be today, those that wouldn't join were suspect or at least viewed as
unpatriotic.
I can well understand the desire to join and those that did should not
be condemned.
Also, once you are part of this "civilian force" you will do as you are told. They may call it something to make you feel "patriotic", but it's just another branch of a different kind of military. Guess you could call it the Obama youths.
Gonzales not required to take oath??
That just beats all. Why even have him testify if he is not required to tell the truth UNDER OATH? Not too hard to figure out where this is all coming from - reminds one of the way Bush visited with the 9/11 commission but refused to be put under oath.
The question is, and always has been - why is this administration so terrified of telling the truth?
The word is that Rove is threatening to withdraw all Republican funding and support from any Republican senator or representative who fails to fall in line with the administration's ambition of unbridled above-the-law autonomy. If they so much as make a peep about protecting the Constitution rather than dear leader, they're dead in the water. It's kind of pathetic watching them all sweat and stutter and grovel, heh - might even be entertaining if it wasn't such an important issue.
No effort required. Just one finger.
(And that would be the middle one, of course.)
Why not? The basic minimum that should be required. nm
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Whistleblowers on this were required to monitor
their spouses, for starters, and also conversations of Doctors without Borders and Red Cross personnel (aid workers). The conversations were recorded. Legally speaking, this falls under the category of search and seizure and requires a warrant showing just cause. If that sounds familiar, it should, since right to privacy and protections against unreasonable search and seizure are encoded in the Constitution. There are a number of privacy issues that come into play available to illustrate what a slimey, slippery slope this can be. Suffice to say that what we have here is a government agency behaving as voyeurs, abusing their power, thumbing their noses at the law and violating the constitutional rights of Americans serving our country. I am grappling for an explanation that justifies such offensive behavior. Eqally as disturbing is the notion that that some Americas with entrenched post-911 Patriot Act mentality accept this as status quo.
This should be mandatory Obama sheeple reading...nm
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If they wear red, white and blue, they are not REQUIRED to
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FYI. Joe the unlicensed required to be licensed in Ohio.
Joe the unlicensed's 15 minutes has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics of Ohio, who claimed that Joe didn’t undergo any apprenticeship training. "When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it’s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We’re the real Joe the Plumber." "This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he’s never been to a training program, union or nonunion, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said. Working for a licensed plumber does not quite cut it.
Wondering if your husband has read Obama's plan for small business, for example the Making Work Pay tax credit (not a rate cut, a direct tax credit)? There is a lot of information there under issues and subheading economics. There is a section there on small business. Not a good idea to buy into the spreading the wealth mantra without that information.
The exposure of Joe the Plumber as a sham makes one raise the question of his autheticity and the possibility of his being a McCain campaign plant at that rally. The bigger picture on this is that Joe himself is being exploited by McCain's campaign (currently not something he is enjoying, having lost his privacy) in their assertions that they will look after the interests of the working class. Flies in the face of the fact that McCain himself has not even spoken the phrase middle class out of his own mouth. The "welfare" rhetoric characterizing spread the wealth as socialism sounds a bit hostile toward the middle class...the economic class of most small business owners he claims to be so concerned about.
When originally posted on the web site, it said it was required ..
I have seen the images before and after ...
you can bet my kid will do it if there is a tax credit ...
but hey -- guess what? He does stuff anyway without being forced or bribed ...
Mandatory evac all along Texas coast. I'm hearing lots.
I live in the path of Ike. Mandatory evac supposedly is starting around 10 a.m. I am trying to figure out whether I am staying home or hitting road. Whenever they come up for breath in the middle of lipstick on pigs and McCains preverted add long enough to actually name the mandatory evacation towns/cities, I'd appreciate a heads up.
O Changed it from mandatory Comm Serv requirement after the outcry
MANDATED community service is not acceptable to me.
Florida has Bright Futures, a scholarship assistance program for State schools. This requires community service. My son did it, and may daughter will do it as well.
BUT it is VOLUNTARY .. you choose to do it or not ..
rewards for service, yes --
mandated, no way; kids will not get anything (or the vast majority anyway) if they are forced to do it ...
ps - I believe in Comm. Service and my kids both do it .. but because they want to do so.
Just my 2 center
When I was in college
I was very liberal - led rallies for Dukakis, made phone calls, passed out bumper stickers, etc. My dad, who is very conservative, called me out on my liberal views one day with this story.
"A girl with very liberal political views came home from college to visit her parents, who were very conservative. She started to discuss politics with her father, even though they always disagreed. Her dad, deciding to change the subject, asked her how she was doing in school. She replied that she was doing great and carrying a 4.0 gpa, but she didn't have much time to socialize because she was studying so much. The dad then asked how her friend from high school was doing. The daughter replied that her friend wasn't doing very well - she went to parties all the time, never studied and hardly ever went to class. She was carrying a 3.5 gpa. The dad said that maybe she could go to the Dean of the college and ask him to give her friend 0.5 points of her gpa - that way, they would both have a 3.5 gpa and they would be equal. The daughter was very upset by this suggestion, as she had worked very hard and given up a lot in order to have such good grades and that it would not be fair for her to give her friend her points when she had done nothing to earn them. Her father just smiled and said "Welcome to the Republican party."
Correction -- *College* (nm)
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Electoral College........
If you really knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't even have kicked your point down by saying anything about the electoral collge. The electoral college really is illegal and unconstitutional and there is no place for it in this country. It is mainly far left liberals who only look at for themselvs and could care less about the country as a whole. What a joke!!
the electoral college
I don't really know what people would want but I do know that the final decision on presidency rests with the electoral college, which vote will not take place until december 15th. The whole issue is designed to influence the votes of the electors so all remains to be seen after the SC today and the electoral vote on 12/15.
Getting rid of the electorial college....sm
or at least rewriting it is one of Obama's plans for his presidency. Perhaps his brilliant idea to beef up the registered voters in electorial-rich states will be his research market study to sell the idea to Congress and to the American people.
I don't think the electorial college is the ideal method of determining presidency as it stands now, but I am not sure what the answer needs to be. Popular vote would probably net the same results, a few more densly populous states determining the outcome of the presidency, but it does seem more representative of what the people want than some calculated system such as the electorial college.
Electoral college.... sm
What do you think will happen on December 15 when the electoral college convenes?
Do you think that Obama has succeeded in changing the color of the electoral college permanently or at least for this election? Do you think the electors will stand by their votes or do you think some who changed over might revert back?
electoral college?
Honestly, this 'electoral college' always confuses me and I believe I am not alone in this.
Could you be so kind and explain?
Always open to learn something.
Thanks
Youths in College
"Youths in college" are busy trying to figure out how they're gonna pay for their textbooks and keep their grades high enough to stay in school next semester. And get drunk on Saturday night. What "youths" do YOU know who are Young Democratic Socialists, for crying out loud?
And yes, I do like to argue.
Are you asking if college students...(sm)
should be allowed to vote or if democratic socialists should be allowed to vote?
Went all the way, school, college degree
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college educated voter in the
suburb up the road says farmer is an ignorant redneck who does not check facts.
Then maybe that college educated voter......... sm
might like to test that theory by working a season or two in the redneck farmer's fields.
I live in an area where there are a lot of immigrant workers. The truth of the matter is that farmers really cannot afford to pay a wage high enough to be able to afford even a modest apartment, let alone buy food and pay utilities. I live right down the road from a poultry farm which employs a family of Mexican immigrants. The farmer, while making a fairly decent living (at least until Pilgrim's filed bankruptcy) provides a mobile home for the family to live in, pays utilities on said home and also pays the family wages to work on his poultry farm. No doubt this family recieves Medicaid and food stamps as well and the children probably get free lunches at school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to get Americans to work these kinds of jobs. I'm not condoning illegal immigrants, but if legal immigrants will do the job, then why not hire them?
I agree with doing away with the electoral college....
it would certainly level the playing field and not give the bulk of the votes to the population centers. One only has to look at red states vs blue states to figure that one out.
Obama was a lush in college, huh?
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about that free college education
I posted this below but I think it will not get noticed 'cuz it is so far down and I am really wondering about it. My daughter, who graduated law school, has over 100K in student loans for her education. She is working hard to pay that back. What happens to those? She is killing herself to pay back while the next guy gets for free? I don't think so. Will Obama also forgive those loans? If not, I would expect greater default than we now see. And I would certainly expect to see a lot of professionals, the people with those big loans, protesting this deal big time. Just wondering if anyone else has any input there. I know people spent up to 20 years paying off those loans, and I would certainly resent spending 20 years paying off something that everyone is getting for free. That 100K applied to their mortgage would certainly be nice!! Might even allow her to work less hours and be home with the family more.
1st 2 yrs of a community college is already free
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Global Electoral College...s/m
This was already posted earlier, but I want to repeat it:
Would the whole world have voted, only
3 (three) ! countries are leaning towards McCain
Iraq
Democratic Republic of Congo
Algeria   
He thanked the college for not canceling out.
The kids stated he has freedom of speech and they were interested in what he had to say, in fact they had a right to hear what he said.
Other's weren't so sure he should be there, but all the inside tickets were sold out but there were a few simulcast tickets left.
I read some of her things from college
as well. That on top of them attending Rev. Wright's church for so long.....well....the bitter black woman with a chip on her shoulder is a perfect description of her, IMO.
Electoral college - Do we need it for a fair election? sm
Some states are talking about getting rid of the electoral college. Critics think this will lead to candidates pandering to urban areas to get the most votes.
Off the top, it sounds like a good idea to me because I'm in Alabama and if I could vote 100 times the republican party still would win our punny 3 electoral votes because we are overall a conservative state. Given that it seems like my vote doesn't count. However, I realize the electoral college was set up to avoid regional preferences.
The electoral college is Article II, Section 1
Joke's on you.
Has anyone heard about Michelle's college thesis?
I got an email yesterday talking about Michelle Obama's college thesis. I actually read most of her thesis. I had to click on a couple of links to see the actual copy of the thesis, but I just wondered if anyone else had read this, heard about it, and what they thought on the subject. I know it was stated that Princeton was not to release her thesis until after the election. Not sure who requested that or why, but after reading it I would assume it was her husband's campaign that requested it not be brought out before election and I could see why. I was a little unnerved by her thesis. Just curious what others thought.
I'm in Ohio. It's aimed at college students for O.
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Link: www.Global Electoral College.com.......nm
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