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You never get tired of attacking Christians, do you?

Posted By: sm on 2009-05-29
In Reply to: Here we go again...(sm) - Just the big bad

"And before you start quoting scriptures, please realize that the bible is not a reputable source for historical facts. It is a collection of STORIES. Nothing more, nothing less."


You're so foul and offensive it's beyond measure. You have no respect for anyone but yourself, and you continue to try to shove your twisted beliefs down everyone's throat, all the while crying "victim" whenever it suits your cause.

You know what else has been around "forever?"

Rape.
Child abuse.
Murder.
Animal cruelty.
Robbery.
War.
Insanity.
and Evil.

So apparently, because they've existed for a long time, they're okie-dokie with you.

Here's your handbasket.


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Wellthe Klan might thing their Christians but real Christians don't consider them that sm

They are a radical group calling themselves Christians, like AL Queda calls themselves Muslim. 


No not Christians, just far right wing radical Christians who,,,sm
believe that God speaks directly only to them and do not welcome anyone who does not have their beliefs.
You are the one doing the attacking
you are rude vile and insufferable.  You can't see over your hatred of conservatives to even have a civil conversation.  No wonder you and your candidates LOST last November.  You all are so hateful it oozes from your pores.
Attacking? Please, I was not attacking.
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Why are you attacking me?
I gave an opinion of the majority of Christians as a response to the poster asking why Muslim was viewed as bad. They view Muslim as a false religion because they don't follow the Bible, rather the Quran. That's why everybody was in an uproar when they thought Obama was sworn in by the Quran. This was not my personal opinion, so don't attack me. In reality, this is the belief of the majority of Christians. They try to convert Muslims. Don't attack me as this being my personal opinion, gourdpainter. I never said it was.
No, they are attacking
I'll stick by my kool-aid comment, however, that was not in this post and I'm sick of people calling me ignorant because I believed both countries were in the middle east, especially when my friend talks of her husband in Iraq and son in Afghanistan and she refers to both countries as being in the middle east. These wars have been going on for so long I'm sick of it all.

Secondly - I admitted in a couple posts I was wrong about Obama stating in the campaign that he would not be bringing troops home and sending more over.

As for reality I have a pretty good grip on it. You know for a fact there are people who voted for Obama just because he's black! That's reality sista. I know because my brother and his friends and their freinds, and our friends in church boasted on how they didn't know his policies and they didn't care. He's black, we're black so therefore we have to vote for him because he's black. Sorry you don't like to face reality. How about the people interviewed that said that if Obama was president they wouldn't mind Sarah Palin as VP. Oh yeah, those people really understand Obama's policies. How about the people who were told McCains plan and they said yeah, that's why I'm voting for Obama, those plans there you just said. How about the thousands and thousands of people who kept boasting about if Obama gets in office that our troops will be coming home from the middle east.

I'm in touch with reality here, you are not!

And for your information. I did not attack anyone who replied to my post here but plenty attacked me for my beliefs and questions.

And if you write any more rude comments to me I am not even going to read them, so don't bother.

Another one attacking Lurker...and on and on

Unacceptable answer for word verbiage. Do people actually let you get away with that?




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Posted By: ? on 2006-03-03,
In Reply to: Find it yourself... - Lurker

You must run in really tolerant debate circles.  Best stay in them.  This kind of behavior is not tolerated in most political circles I know of.  But it is a good example of how far we have slipped into the he said/she said atmosphere of debate in this country.  Just say anything and never have to prove it.  It works well for the MSM, of which you seem so fond.  Well, should have known better. I am off for greener pastures and debate fields where people actually have to prove what they say.  Imagine that!


Obviously, this person was not attacking. sm
The underlined part just goes to prove that they are NOT attacking liberals.  I am unsure of your rationalization on this one.
I'm not attacking you, but it's funny

Isn't he half white and half black?  I thought that was the case for Obama.  I am voting for Obama, but I know there are people saying that he will most likely need a lot of security.  The white suppremists (spelling??) are still around.  I just think he is much more suited and in better health to make decisions and not always "go with the good ole boys." 


Oh yeah back to the multicolored...  I remember being taught when there were references made like "I don't care if he's white, purple, orange, or black."  Well people don't come in orange or purple????   Know what I mean?  So what is multicolored (rainbow???)...  I'm not attacking, I just thought it was funny to hear someone say they don't care if he's "multi-colored." 


As far as McCain - he's out of his league.  The things we face and our children face need to be addressed by someone more in our age group.  As far as Palin, well she should be taking care of her family first.  She's a mother.  I am a mother first, a wife, then an MT. ....  get my drift?  I love my country, but I love my children more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  These are all my opinions and thoughts...


I know you weren't attacking me....
I was just telling you why I thought what I thought. sorry if I sounded defensive, didn't mean to be. :)
No one is attacking you, they are correcting you.
Oh, I see. It's okay for you to post snide remarks about others, but when you post something that is blatantly wrong and are called out the carpet for it, you accuse everyone of attacking you.

Here is a direct quote from one of your previous posts: "So, time to put down the kool-aid and get a cup of coffee and come back to reality here with the rest of us."

Apparently, your reality is based on incorrect information. Therefore, those of us who listen carefully to what President Obama says and who do not make gross generalizations that have no basis in fact have no interest in joining in with your concept of reality.

Your comment about people only voting for President Obama because he is black is a perfect example of just how out of touch with reality (or maybe just bigoted) you truly are.
Maybe you have wasted yours attacking others...
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Why are you so rudely attacking this poster?

The poster didn't make one reference to you personally in his/her post.  All they did was express their opinion about the current administration without any personal references to you whatsoever.


Why are you so angry and hateful?


IMHO, You owe that poster an apology.


 


Some of these weirdos are attacking people
and blowing up things. Eco-terrorists are a reality. PETA disciples routinely attack people, pull the fur off their backs and spray paint people... Hey, if it happened to me I take care of the situation myself, but there are some loonies in those organizations.
It's not any more condescending than your post was attacking....
with all due respect. You view "independent" differently than I do. I was just explaining. I am not a Republican.
your post was just as one-sided and attacking as
What a shame.  When I first read it, I was expecting it to be unbiased, but all I read in your post was negativity against Obama and defense of McCain.  You probably would be better off on the gab board. 
How is a news story such as this attacking
the other candidate?
So you didn't let her apology stop you from attacking her.

I know it's hard for you, but try to pay attention.  Sheesh!


It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM












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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to:
They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby



Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.


I am not attacking you, therefore I can post here. In other words, make me. :) nm

In all fairness, your posts were attacking and unkind. sm
And may have even been unfounded. I believe both of you were off base with the posts.  I have once again posted a reminder at the top of the board. 
Attacking a family over personal issues...
reprehensible.
This post is not attacking Palin with vitriol?
as well as being inaccurate?
If it's so great there, why don't you STAY there instead of attacking posters on this board

all the time?  I don't need to grow any skin, thank you.  If people are just simply NICE and treat me with respect, they receive the same in turn.  It's called the golden rule.  Liberals on this board follow the golden rule.  It's the conservatives who must constantly attack, and frankly, it's tiresome.  You add nothing of value to this board.  NOTHING.


Intellect? Attacking an innnocent 16-year-old girl?
If that is intellect, you can have it!!
Stop attacking me!!!!! - and JTBB answered my question
All I asked is where will the troops be coming from that he is going to send to Afghanistan. I didn't state anything else about the troops except that a lot of us thought they'd be coming home. I know the military are committing suicide at an alarming rate. What does that have to do with the question "Where are the troops coming from that Obama is going to send to Afghanistan". The only thing transparent here is how eager you are to attack me for my thoughts and beliefs. Can't anyone ask a question anymore without being attacked for it.

I asked a question and JTBB answered it and I thanked her for it.

And for your information. I don't hate Obama. I VOTED FOR HIM IN THE PRIMARIES!!!!!!! (and don't even call me a pub cos I didn't vote for McCain either). Personally, I like Obama. Good looking guy, in great shape, beautiful family, very pleasant speaking voice. Nothing to hate there and these decisions he is telling us about are not his decisions. He is doing what he is told to do by his bosses. I guess I probably feel the same way lots of people feel about Bush lying to us on certain issues (like Obama's promise for change which he is not keeping it), except I don't have the hatred towards Obama that most do towards Bush.

Please people stop attacking me for me asking questions. If you also read any of my posts you also read that I say over and over - "If I'm wrong I'll admit it" Unlike some of the other posters.

P.S. - Thank you JTBB for being civil to me in your posts. People can disagree and be civil about it and you have shown that so thank you. The rest just please leave me alone!
Can you stick to the subject EVER? Oh wait, i'm unfairly attacking you by asking what you read,
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Evidently, my conservative friend, there is no opportunity to be missed in attacking Bush.
And threads are being hijacked on the conservative board as well.  It's amazing.
You mean Christians.
Is that what you are talking about?  What other board?
That may be so....but Christians, at least the ones I know...
do not want to control the government. And too many times a strictly moral issue is ascribed to a "religious nut." Take abortion for example. There are nonreligious people who are against abortion, strictly on moral grounds, that it is wrong to kill innocent life. There are liberals who are against abortion for that reason...their reasoning is that you can't be against war because it kills and be for abortion, because it kills. That is their reasoning. For me, the basic moral precept of not committing murder should apply to the unborn as well as the "born" and that basic moral precept is enhanced by my faith. Everything I know about Jesus tells me his heart breaks every time an abortion occurs. Because of my faith, my heart also hurts for those millions of lives ended. People talk on and on and on about individual freedoms...yet walk all over the most basic of those...the right to life. Somehow people think they have the right to choose whether someone gets to live or not live. And I think that is way too much power...for one individual to have over the life of another. In any other case of that, when a person exercises that kind of power...it is illegal, it is wrong, it is murder, or manslaughter, or whatever you want to call it. And then you get into the business of defining when life starts. It is just my opinion that that is not a decision that is up to us. And an opinion I am entitled to. People protest the death penalty. No one calls them fanatics. To me there is no difference...lethal injection, abortion. Both kill. Sure, one has comitted a crime, which only makes the other more heinous. What crime did that developing child commit?

I do not say that to start an abortion thread. It is just to illustrate a point. I, as a Christian, believe in a moral code. I believe you should care about your fellow man, and churches in this country used to take care of the poor and weak in this country, before such a thing as a social program. No one had to force us to do it, we just did it. That kind of serving attitude, in my opinion, is good in public servants. They do need to serve a cause greater than themselves, and in their case I am not saying it is God. I am saying it is the American people. If more lawmakers listened to their Christian teachings they would do so. Not just serving God in their everyday lives, but serving the American people, because that is their job.

I agree it is not up to lawmakers to project their beliefs on an entire nation. Again there is the issue of abortion. That is not a "religious" issue. It is a moral issue...there are many nonreligious people who believe that it is wrong. Just like people believe other things are wrong and seek to legislate against those. Not from "religious" grounds, but moral grounds.

And you shouldn't characterize all Christians with the radicals. We are exhorted not to characterize all Muslims as terrorists. Just afford Christians the same courtesy, that's all I am saying.
no wonder christians have a bad name
Wow, aren't you a little smarty pants. So glad the whole world isn't just like you. I'm a Jew, we believe G-d's name is sacred and don't like to write it out unless it is going to be protected. Maybe you should go to h*ll because you don't seem to be a good example of how a christian should behave.

I have faith in G-d, and my people have for many, many years, long before there was a Jesus.


Well, not all Christians, but most of the
one on this board. I am a diest myself.
I'm just saying what most Christians believe
Just explaining why people see Muslim as wrong. I don't judge anybody or their beliefs. I can't stand people who do that and act all high and mighty. I have my own personal ones I won't get into here, but I would never force mine on somebody else.
Do you think that Christians who

believe abortion is murder are just religious quacks trying to push their religious beliefs on others?  You don't have to be Christian to believe that abortion is wrong. 


I do believe that there are some Christians out there who do turn more people away from religion than bringing them to it because of the way they go about it.  But having religion and believing in things doesn't mean that we should have to give up our beliefs because someone else does not any more than you should have to put up with religion when you don't believe.  This is where we have the problem. 


I think abortion has to be a give and take kind of thing.  I personally feel that it is wrong, however, I would be willing to compromise for the sake of meeting in the middle with people who believe it is a personal choice and not murder.  I am 100% against late-term abortions as I feel there is no other word for that than MURDER.  However, I could live with the early abortions.  I have no problem with the morning after pill as to me that isn't much different than the birth control pill.


I just feel that there are people on the far right who need to unwind their panties..but I also believe that there are some far left people who need to do so themselves. 


This is kind of like smokers versus non-smokers.  Smokers feel they have the right to light up wherever they want because that is their right.  However, non-smokers have a right to breathe clean air.  So which one is right?  Who rights are infringed upon?


Abortion is another subject where not everyone will be completely happy with.  No matter what decision is made, people are going to complain.  I just wish that we could somehow meet in the middle.  Allow early term, deny late-term unless it is a life/death situation and just shut up about it. 


Christians?

This was a very misfortunate event, but it was just an example of cult worship and weak minded people that killed their own children.  I have no respect for people who kill children - NONE! 


Christians?
I would have to wonder about that.  Christians worship Jesus/God.  Those people worshiped Jones, though they claimed to be Christians.  Christianity is not a cult.
True Christians?!?!?
This is JOKE, right?? An article out of MAD Magazine or something???
I wish they would be real Christians. Just once.
It's very hard to understand how those who cheer war, torture and the fleecing of the poor think that their values are Jesus-oriented. It is scary to think what they have made of Jesus in their own minds, to believe he is applauding what they do.
Christians do that, not Muslims.
You state regarding Obama...He's linked with Ahmedinejad and therefore if he gets elected they will have an open invitation to come and get us and turn everyone into a muslim.

The last time I checked, it was the Christians who were trying to make everyone accept Jesus Christ as their savior and convert to them Christianity. Personally, I have never heard of Muslims trying to force anyone to believe as they do.
She didn't say anything about Christians
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Sorry you are so bitter towards Christians but you are right
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true Christians
I consider myself a true Christian. I was baptized in the Southern Baptist Church when I was 11, and converted to Presbyterian Church USA as an adult, where I am an ordained Elder and Deacon. I am voting for Obama.

I am pro-choice and pro gay civil unions. The bible talks a lot more about tithing than it does about homosexuality (we just had a great sermon on this, but I don't remember the exact number difference.) Most Christians aren't up in arms for those who don't tithe. Homosexuality has been around forever, as has abortion (performed by midwives, etc., using herbs and other methods.)

I am married, with 2 children. I have never had to make the choice on abortion and hopefully never will. I hope my daughter never has to make this choice, but I sure as h@ll want it to be available to her if she does.

I think marriage is up to the individual churches, and many churches do perform gay marriages. I think that the government should allow civil unions. I really don't care what 2 people come together as a couple. I wish them all the love and happiness and support I have had in my own marriage for 21+ years.

How dare you say I am not a true Christian because my beliefs are different from yours. Christians come in many "flavors" and you are free to believe as you wish, and I don't think you are more or less Christian because of it.

I agree with the other posters, religion and politics don't mix and never should.
They are NOT Christians......they are evil
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not all republicans are christians.

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Why woul d you think this was done by Christians?
Racial slurs and swastikas are your idea of Christian symbols? What you are speaking of is a crime, but I wouldn't chalk it up to Christians.

And I will gladly identify as a Christians. Though I don't usually thump my Bible, I do read it.



Why do Christians think atheists are
I am an atheist. I have a bachelors degree in theology. The atheists and agnostics I know personally have read and studied the Bible and many other belief systems before coming to the point in their lives where they come of the theological closet, as it were. In some cases, they are even more knowledgeable than some that practice the faith because they do not read the bible with a set doctrine that interprets it for them. The oft-held belief that all atheists are not knowledgeable of the Bible is simply not true.
So it's okay to offend Christians...
And yet this putz bows to Muslims.

Things that make you go 'hmmmm.'
He does not only lead Christians
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why is it that the Christians are self-righteous sm
condescending and judgement and insulting and your posts are not? Whether you get to heaven is based on whether you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and SAvior. You cannot do anything on your own to warrant heaven.

Whether you believe or not, I am not going to deny my Lord and Savior because you think I am condescending or anything else. I truly hope you reconsider.
So you don't think Christmas is for the Christians?
Wow. I thought that was how it got its name. Good Friday/Easter aren't about Christians?

Since you don't believe that these are celebration of Christian theology, please don't let your voice be one of those complaining about the secularization of Christmas, since you don't feel it's Christian anyway.
First of all Christians who witness know sm
they cannot "save" anyone. Only Jesus Christ can save a soul. If a Christian is witnessing the proper way, he isn't pushing anything down anyone's throat. I will admit, there are some who don't do things correctly and it makes it bad for the ones who do.

As a Christian I want to see everyone I can come to know the Lord Jesus Chris in the free pardon of sin. They have every right to the same heaven I do. Its up to that person to decide who they will serve. It is a free choice.
Why are you using only Christians in this debate
I think a lot of people opposed to gay marriage are not Christians at all, and some who may be in support of it may very well be Christians.  What does being Christian have to do with it at all?