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Fixed news strikes again...LOL (sm)

Posted By: Just the big bad on 2008-12-13
In Reply to: Big Three's European Divisions Could Show Ailing U.S. Industry the Way Back...sm - ms

You guys really do need to bring in some credible sources.  The reality is that companies don't like unions, not because unions put them in a financial hole, but because they cut down on the profit margin (aka CEO wallets).  Again, the republican goal is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.  This is a perfect example of that.  You guys gripe about the CEO payoffs from the 700B bailout, but support an idea (killing unions) that essentially does the same thing.


I work for MQ.  If we had had a union for MTs, then we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.




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Three Strikes
"It has always been a right for people to marry who they wish to marry."

Wow - you just made all the pedophiles and bigamists really happy. Well done.
W's 22% fan club strikes again.
Did you read the article? O was not mentioned once in it, but you do not hesitate to inject your O hate at every turn. Are you even capable of comment on the substance, or is your plan for the future to b*tch and moan for the net 4 years? If so, why would you expect anybody to take what you have to say seriously?

Why not try defending W's support of these decidedly un-American precepts? Oh, maybe because it's indefensible and the only thing you know how to do is lash out at somebody who had nothing to do with it? I think I got it.


Another that strikes me funny

is that you instantly assume that Fox is the only one who reported on it, therefore making this not true.  Here are some links that have nothing to do with Fox that also reported on this incident.  The view points are from both sides as to whether covering up the symbol was right or wrong.  But you should seriously think before you post.  Your ignorance is showing.


http://www.examiner.com/x-2044-Atheism-Examiner~y2009m4d17-Georgetown-covered-religious-symbols-for-Obamas-speech


http://www.cnsnews.com/PUBLIC/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=46667


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jesus-Missing-From-Obamas-Georgetown-Speech.html


The word *reportedly* strikes me.
I don't believe any of this and please stop with the OReilly et al.  You don't know me and have no idea what my reading preferences are. Stop with the gang attack mentality already.  I have to say, Democrat is a brave person.  One lone questioning and dissenting voice in a pool full of pirrhana.  That's can't be pleasant.
The word *confirmed* strikes me.
Thompson said he talked with three people who were present for that meeting and that they all confirmed that President Bush called the Constitution a g-d- piece of paper.

debbie downer strikes again. nm
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Faux Snooze strikes again
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Religionopathy strikes another poor soul blind.

Your justrification of Hama missle strikes is disgusting.
They did it to get attention?

Pathetic.

Are they so completelyd devoid of intelligence that the only way they could get attention (which is what they want, and what they seem to have found in bleeding-heart liberals) was to shoot rockets into Israeli houses?

Well, it worked. They got the attention of the Israeli military.

Now they're suffering the consequences.

Deal with it.
DH and I should get our mortgage fixed....
we have no debt but our home, have never missed a payment or been late, pay a few hundred dollars extra every month towards the principal, have never taken out a HELOC or used our equity (quite a bit) for anything and have a fantastic credit score. We should have our rate lowered below the 5% it is now for doing a great job. But no, we'll give a break to those who bought too much house, had to compete with the Jones' and who took out foolish loans to begin with.
If it is broken, why haven't they fixed it?

Updated in light of today's news that kangaroo centers, petting zoos and ice cream parlors are included in Homeland Security's list of vulnerable terrorist targets:


If Its Broken, Why Haven't They Fixed It?




Fort Knox is robbed in an unusual way. Burglars break in through an air conditioning vent and shine a laser at the video cameras to blind them. Billions are stolen.

The head of Fort Knox (let's call him the Chief) announces that no one could have foreseen this type of burglary.

The commission investigating the robbery -- stacked with the Chief's business partners and friends -- finds that the break-in was unexpected. The commission makes numerous suggestions on how to thwart similar burglaries by installing motion detectors in the air conditioning vents and main vault.

Independent researchers, however, discover that there have been many previous break-ins at repositories of valuable items where the burglars crawled in through the air conditioning vents and shined lasers at video cameras.

They also discover that the Fort's security system would normally have caught the burglars in the act and alerted the military in time to stop the burglarly, but the system was undergoing a series of safety tests that night -- including some that were similar to what actually occurred -- and so the military assumed that the alarms were part of the test.

There had been safety tests before, but never so many at the same time. The Chief personally scheduled multiple, overlapping tests for the night of the robbery, and then oversaw the operation of the tests and the Fort's reaction to those tests.

Years pass, but the Chief does not follow the commission's recommendations. He fails to install any motion detectors.

That's circumstantial evidence that the Chief was in on the heist. Why? Because if the robbery really had not been foreseeable and if he was innocent, he would have a very strong incentive to install motion detectors to prevent further robberies at the Fort. His personal reputation, the government's reputation, and its gold reserves would all depend on it. You can bet that he'd shore up the Fort's defenses.

Perks

Let's take it a step further: the Chief's personal bank account has suddenly gotten alot bigger after the heist. That helps to prove he was in on it, right? But it also shows that one of the reasons the Chief is leaving the Fort's defenses in a compromised state now is so that additional heists can occur, and he'll get more loot.

9/11

Similarly, the 9-11 Commission -- stacked with cronies of the Bush administration (like executive director Philip Zelikow, who is very close to administration hawk Condoleeza Rice, and steered the Commission away from the most important lines of inquiry) -- found that the attacks were unexpected, despite very strong evidence that they were not, and despite the fact that the government scheduled numerous, overlapping war games for 9/11 -- some involving a plane flying into a building and others involving hijackings.

And while the 9-11 Commission made numerous recommendations on how to prevent future terrorist attacks -- many of them simple and inexpensive to implement -- the Bush administration has failed to do so. Indeed, the Department of Homeland Security, instead of protecting vulnerable targets, has instead randomly made up lists which include kangaroo centers, petting zoos and
ice cream parlors
as high-priority terrorist threats.

Just like with the Chief, the current administration's failure to make the recommended and preventative changes -- many of them cheap fixes -- despite billions being spent on supposed homeland security, is strong evidence that the administration was in on it.

This is especially true because the administration has recieved so many perks from 9/11: justification for wars in Afghanistan (where a huge oil pipeline benefitting American companies was being held up by the Taliban) and Iraq (one of the world's largest oil producers), permanent military bases in the Middle East, and consolidation of power at home.

And by failing to implement the recommendations of the 9-11 Commission, the administration keeps open the possibility that another terrorist attack will occur which will whip the now-dissenting American public into line, justify the invasion of Iran, and allow for the suspension of our remaining constitutional rights.

The bottom line is that the administration's, like the Chief's, inaction to fix the alleged holes in security which allowed supposedly unforeseeable crimes to occur shows that they are guilty of the crimes, and hope to benefit from additional crimes in the future.

And if foreign terrorists really had carried out 9/11, why is the government using all of its resources spying on innocent people who obviously have never met a terrorist in their life?

sorry came out off center. Fixed version.
I decided to post this at the top since things get lost in the shuffle so quickly here.

Right now there are single, low income mothers (and fathers I would assume) who by the time they get the earned income credit and claim head of household do not owe taxes and actually get back more than they paid in to begin with. So why haven't you been carrying on about that all along? (And when people without children are contributing to this with their tax money, why isn't that considered socialism?)

I don't get all the chaos over this issue.

You can always watch Fixed Noise...(sm)
I hear O'Reilly plans on doing another temper tantrum tonight.  That should be good for a few laughs.
I meant fixated on her breasts not fixed
Thought I'd clarify that before people jump down my throat on that word.
and what about people on fixed incomes who don't have mortgages
What if all this triggers inflation and screws them?
Explain what you want fixed? The voter fraud
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No more creepy than you to be fixed on her breasts - ewww back at ya.
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Anyone interested in being well informed watches Fixed Noise
How else can one keep up with what the myopic right-wing is up to, especially nobody else in the mainstream media with any ethical integrity will carry the bulk of their stories?
Anyone interested in being well informed watches Fixed Noise
How else can one keep up with what the myopic right-wing is up to, especially since nobody else in the mainstream media with any ethical integrity will carry the bulk of their stories?
Reality check for Fixed Noise viewers....(sm)

From Rupert Murdoch speaking about Fox dealing with economic downturn:


While it's impossible to be completely prepared for a downturn of this magnitude, we began priming ourselves for a weakening economy earlier last year. We implemented strict cost cutting measures across all our operations. We reduced head count in individual businesses where appropriate and we scaled back on capital expenditures.


Even on [finance] terms, we have never been a company that tolerates facts. 


http://seekingalpha.com/article/118935-news-corporation-f2q09-qtr-end-12-31-08-earnings-call-transcript?page=3


I'd be happy if they just reduced everybody's mortgage rate to a fixed 3%. sm
Then everyone is still responsible for the debt they took on, yet they're still getting a break. It would free up a couple hundred bucks a month for me, which I could then use elsewhere to stimulate the economy. Fewer foreclosures, banks are still getting their money.
You can't throw money at this problem and expect it to be fixed.
Spending and spending and then more spending isn't the answer - it just creates more of the same problems. It's true that Bush never met a spending bill he didn't like and that lost him a lot of support and, as you stated, created quite a bit of the mess we're in today. But Obama's spending really isn't doing anything to jumpstart the economy - okay, maybe in the short-term, but none of the money he's spending is sustainable.

Example: Part of his stimulus money went to pay for the salaries of police officers in Columbus, Ohio. For one year. The City of Columbus is broke and Mayor Coleman says that if things don't turn around soon, jobs that are going to be cut are... guess what? Policemen and firefighters. Even if those officers make it to next year, the city can't afford to take over paying thier salaries after that. Is Obama going to pay for it next year and the year after that?

When you're in debt, the first thing you learn is that you can't spend your way out of it. You have to cut back, "trim the fat", and learn to live on a tighter budget. What burns me is that none of the politicians in DC understand that because they don't have to live it - they do the majority of what they do on our dime.

It's not about doing nothing, but it's about doing what's right and since no one in DC even reads the spending packages they keep signing, you can't say even they know what's right anymore.
You can't throw money at this problem and expect it to be fixed.
Spending and spending and then more spending isn't the answer - it just creates more of the same problems. It's true that Bush never met a spending bill he didn't like and that lost him a lot of support and, as you stated, created quite a bit of the mess we're in today. But Obama's spending really isn't doing anything to jumpstart the economy - okay, maybe in the short-term, but none of the money he's spending is sustainable.

Example: Part of his stimulus money went to pay for the salaries of police officers in Columbus, Ohio. For one year. The City of Columbus is broke and Mayor Coleman says that if things don't turn around soon, jobs that are going to be cut are... guess what? Policemen and firefighters. Even if those officers make it to next year, the city can't afford to take over paying thier salaries after that. Is Obama going to pay for it next year and the year after that?

When you're in debt, the first thing you learn is that you can't spend your way out of it. You have to cut back, "trim the fat", and learn to live on a tighter budget. What burns me is that none of the politicians in DC understand that because they don't have to live it - they do the majority of what they do on our dime.

It's not about doing nothing, but it's about doing what's right and since no one in DC even reads the spending packages they keep signing, you can't say even they know what's right anymore.
FOX news IS the news. The only 1 that tells BOTH
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It's all over the news - and I mean ALL news stations.
not just the ones you don't like.

Do you get any news except at the DU? ????? NM

Believe it or not, I do keep up with the news.
I realize this is an old story, but it has a new twist to it because now Gary Bernsten is now giving the specifics surrounding it.
When the news first came out that he was..sm
hosting a fundraiser for her I thought it was weird, but now that you bring it up (and it's a good question) I did some research and it appears that old Ruppert has a history of switching his backing between parties. Some believe his main objective is monopoly in broadcasting, not party loyalty or belief in party ideals (aka Big Business 102).

Excerpt from wsws.org: 'When it comes to politics, Murdoch, known in media circles as the “dirty digger,” is equally adaptable in pursuing his personal gain. The most loyal right-wing Tory and friend of Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s, as he built up his media holdings in Britain, he switched his loyalties to “New Labour” when he saw that Tony Blair could provide a fresh face for even more reactionary politics and was more than willing to further Murdoch’s interests in return for editorial backing. He made similar swings in his native Australia between the Labor and Liberal parties to further his efforts at monopolizing the print and broadcast media.'
Actually, I saw it on ABC News....
the footage of Obama not putting hand over heart for pledge. In all fairness, that is the only footage I have seen of him not doing so....never was a recipient of whatever chain email you are speaking of. Believe it...yes, saw it with my own eyes. Why he did it, have no idea. There could be a multitude of reasons why he didn't do it. Here is the big BUT...it does make one a but curious when coupled with the fact that he dispensed with wearing of the flag pin on his lapel. I heard his explanation; I am just not sure I buy it. Each thing alone not such a big deal...together, it does make one wonder, so I can see why nanna might have reservations. It is good to question things and not take everything at face value...be the candidate Dem, Repub, Inde...whatever.
Fox news

A propanganda machine for repubs.  No one is obligated to appear on that network.  There are plenty of other media outlets. Fox's ratings are dropping and MSNC's are climbing.  Fox disguises these facts by including their entertainment ratings in with their "news" ratings.  As far as ALL OTHER MEDIA being liberal, that is a transparent technique to keep viewers from getting opinions from ANY OTHER source than Fox.  I certainly wouldn't fall for that bunko.  I also notice that they concentrate on certain sites such as Media Matters and NY Times specifically because those sites are excellent at presenting the truth about distorted information disseminated by the propaganda machine. To each his own.


 


 


Where do you get your news?

Sorry, I'm conservative, but have to ask why you would go down that road when you can find those answers yourself.


Might I suggest worldnetdaily.com, townhall.com, drudgereport.com, breitbart.com, talk radio (and the hosts' web sites, including Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Savage, Levin, Michelle Malkin, Rush, etc.).  There are countless news stories that never make the mainstream media.


Another thing to consider is who a person keeps for company.  When questionable names keep coming up (Pflager, Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, etc.), that would concern me if I were considering any kind of relationship with someone, but that's just me.


Those who support Obama get their news from MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and so on.  Those networks alone have been proven repeatedly to be biased.  All the times that McCain went abroad, where were Couric, Gibson, and Williams?  Why would any American think that the Democrats, who are determined to reinstate Fairness Doctrine, think that it won't come back and bite them?  Why should any American be silenced just because one group disagrees with another?


Do you know what is posted on blogs like the DailyKos and HuffingtonPost? 


Lastly, a couple more stats.  The #1 most liberal Senator is Obama.  Kennedy is #2, Biden is #3.  Even the moderate Democrats are distancing themselves from him.  This info is documented and not fiction.


That's rather left of left, I would say.


I'm already looking for my fire extinguisher, but the truth hurts sometimes.


Trust your own gut.


She knows it because it was all over the news
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news

You have more options now than anytime in history to gather information.  You can gather information from both sides of the issue and verify the facts and then make your own decision based on your personal values.


 


Old news....nm
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Fox News is the only one I DO believe.
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SP on ABC News
Just saw first installment of interview with SP with Charlie Gibson.  In my opinion, she really messed that up!  Experienced and ready to lead?  No way.  Danced around every question and flat out lied when asked what she said about Iraq War being a mission from God.  What's the worst thing about listening to her for the first time in her own words, she says NUCULAR!!!  Just like George Bush.  Oh no...not again. 
SP on ABC News
She was so nervous, she had big red blotches on the side of her neck. He pressed on dancing around and not answering the questions he asked. She looked like a deer in the headlights to me.
old news....ho hum.. nm
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NBC news...
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/17/1413605.aspx
old news
This happened years ago, not yesterday. How come you are just hearing about it? Did you check your dates in snopes?
Maybe old news, but why does no one get it? sm
do you just want to ignore all the blatant truths about Obama being linked to terrorists and cling to hope that he is not REALLY a terrorist and hope that he really will do what he says? So just blindly accept him at his word and ignore all the indications that tell us otherwise. Do you not see any huge red flags waving in front of your eyes??
Fox NEWS is not the news
Joe the plumber is a plant! All your info is wrong.
Fox News
Plenty has been said about Sarah Palin's appearance, from her designer glasses to her striking similarity to actress Tina Fey.

But lately her stylish look has come at a price -- more than $150,000 of which was paid for by the Republican National Committee -- according to a report Tuesday by Politico.

The Web site cited financial disclosure records that suggest the wardrobe makeover began in September and included bills from Sak's Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York totaling nearly $50,000.

The documents also show a $75,000 shopping trip at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis in September, as well as about $4,700 spent on hair and makeup, Politico reported. Documents don't show similar costs in August.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/21/report-rnc-spent-g-spruce-palin/
fox news
Good Evening,

 

1.  On Sunday night at 9 on Fox News, Hannity's America will run "The Ten Reasons Why Barack Obama Should Not Be President."  Please spread the word.

 

2.  The article that follows is about Sarah Palin and the elites (both Democrat and Republican).  It is well worth the read:

 


And this is news how?????
HA HA HA HA HA. I never trusted her. I just hope I see as less of Dillary than I do of Condi.
It's news because...(sm)

Israel is getting ready to invade Gaza and is already in the process of bombing raids.  Meanwhile the current US administration (aka Bush/Condi/Cheney/etc) is perpetuating the lies about Gaza, such as who is the real terrorist, ignoring a legitimate democratically elected council, etc.  The OP explains all this.  Bottom line is that the US is giving Israel a green light, which to some of us (as well as a large portion of the world) is condoning genocide. 


And Americans wonder why the rest of the world has such a bad opinion of us. 


Old news.......
I posted the entire article on how Obama wants to pay for abortions in Ethiopia and abroad with MY money but instead of responses of "NOT MY MONEY", all I got was criticism for being AGAINST abortion......

Go figure..... that's what I mean when I say this country has lost its loyalty to itself and we have a president who has absoluely no loyalty to this country; his loyalties lie elsewhere
I saw it on the news. It is to try
this stimulus. Also that is why Obama had townhall meetings to show congress "We the people" want this stimulus to pass.

Boy, Obama sure loves campaigning and speeches.


Old news - nm

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I would think Fox News would be enough
Unless, of course, you have built up your tolerance for it by listening to Michael Savage.
The ones that have been all over the news -
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