Good point, if you're going to support something, you should be able to look at it (sm)
Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-30
In Reply to: by the way..did u watch the video? - shelly
and still think you're right, right?
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Good point, good post. Thanks.
I think you're right, up to a point.
"Shambles" is probably somewhat extreme, but I've seen the pieces that you're reading using the word.
Without any question, the Republican Party lost its sense of direction in recent years. And, without any question, it will take time to repair the damage that has done. And, without any question, the very best people in the world to help us do this - who are already helping us do this, in fact - are Mr. Obama, Ms. Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress. The more blunders they make, the more arrogant they become, the more they ram programs down the throats of Americans, and the more they pile the burden for the cost of all of this insanity on the average American - well, the better it is for all opposition parties.
You might be loving the drunken party at the moment, but watch out for the morning after.
You're missing the point.
Her age dictates his eligibility to run for president. There are lawsuits out now regarding this.
I think you're missing the point...(sm)
World economy, eliminting industries, creating new ones -- all things that can be dealt with.
Extinction of humans -- not so much.
Good point...sm
There is no blaming liberals for Bush's inaction. He hasn't paid us any attention for the past 6 years, so anything that he has done is of his own accord, including the handling of the war in Iraq.
Suzie mentioned not taking out al Sadr above (sound familiar?).
Good point
I remember a disagreement several of us had with our pastor years ago. Several folks were talking about leaving. One of the elders told us, "You don't leave, I don't leave, this is our church, not his. He needs to remember that he works for us, not the other way around." Brought lots of things into perspective for me.
Good point
Yeah, they are both raking in the dough, but why should Hillary or anyone be forced to pay our health care costs? Your right, the post makes no sense.
Good point - :-)
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Good point. nm
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Good for you! Well-said and to-the-point, too.
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Good point. nm
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Good point! nm
Good point :-) nm
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Good point - He won by only 4%
They did not get 100% of the vote and he did not win by a landslide. I would say more like "squeaked by".
Good point there
Many of the people that carry on about the sanctity of human life have no problem rushing out during hunting season to bag their quota of wildlife, no problem trashing the environment/planet for profit, etc. Either all life is sacred, or none is, IMHO.
good point s/m
Methodists share that belief as do most protestant churches I believe. I don't believe that politics has any place in the pulpit.
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Good point
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You have a good point there..........sm
By comparison, what I meant was that if he fails to bring us out of this downward spiral we are in then America would fail. I was looking at it as if Obama was doing what was the best thing for this country, and certainly, none of what he has accomplished thus far has been for the good of the country. I stand corrected!
Good point. (nm)
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That is a very good point.
All the sex and drugs that goes along with rock n roll. There is always going to be something you don't approve of one way or another whether it be who they sleep with or how much drugs they do. I would not deprive myself of good music just because that particular artist is gay.
Is Obama losing support or winning support?
John Clodfelter of Mechanicsville, Va., whose son was among the 17 sailors killed in the Cole bombing, said he arrived at the meeting with apprehension over the decision to close the prison. But after listening to the president and being assured that the terrorism suspects would not be released, Mr. Clodfelter said his opinion changed.
“I did not vote for the man,” Mr. Clodfelter said, “but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him. He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”
I guess we're going to have another 9/11 to prove our point
because your little mind doesn't even remember the first one. You guys need to give it up, because your lilly livered thought processes are losing. Nobody wants you all in charge that's why you keep LOSING ELECTIONS...that's because if you were in charge you would be hugging Muslim terrorists and telling them it's okay and that you understand them.
You can argue semantics of bills all day, but it doesn't make the fact of the dying liberal theology any less of a reality.
See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
You're missing one crucial point
No where in there did you say that these white evangelical ministers are spouting hatred towards black people, calling them "less than human" or spouting about "black liberation theology" or the teaching of "Dr. James Cone".
Now if our "white preachers" were to go on and on about "white theology" and if our websites said "a white congregation" we would be immediately portrayed as racist. But it's okay for the United Trinity Church of Christ (Obama's church or former church, whatever) to have all over their website that they are a BLACK church. See for yourself:
http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27
So I take it a white person walking in there wouldn't be very welcome?
Talk about racism.
You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.
When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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That's a good point and it's true. sm
I am sure all of us have things we do in the name of kindness. The rest of us just don't talk about it.
Rush may have a good point here.
From an email I got:
"Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one right on the head..........
By Rush Limbaugh:
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well , I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier kill ed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. (Actually, soldiers are put in harms way by politicians and commanding officers.)
We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.
You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?
However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement beca use they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
Good point - forgot about that
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oh, good comeback. What is the point
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You bring up such a good point...
my partner drives a school bus in 2 areas, a very impoverished area, and then in the 'upper class' area, and he never gets over all the kindness and gifts he gets from the poorest of people during holidays, while the more affluent areas not even give nothing, they do not even treat him as a person.
I have noticed that during post office drives, you always see the most donated goods hanging on the mailboxes in poor neighborhoods, and very rarely anything from the huge gigantic housing developments. not to say they do not give but it really says SO MUCH.
we are musicians here where I live also and even the money-making machine bars and restaurants, they want to get everything free, they are making musicians around here go broke and do not care at all. they hold open mics and get everyone to play for free, while over-charging for every other little service, and give the musicians nothing, not even a free pop or coffee (or drink if you drink).
by the way, these establishments all boast they are christians/family establishments.
I think wick has a good point here..
That's a good point. I'm like you in the middle -nm
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Good point - what about HC's suits.
How come nobody commented on Hillary Clintons outfits. She doesn't shop at Penny/Sears or any of the other stores I do. Her clothes are very expensive but nobody made any comments about her spending money on clothes.
Good point, I agree with that...nm
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Good point. Actually, I think he wants to be Denzel
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Good point, Amanda. sm
If you had really listened closely to Prez Obama's speech earlier, he clearly stated the government is willing to give them a boost up in order to stabilize them and give them a chance to revamp their manufacturing in order to be competative with the global car manufacturers. I am so glad to hear that one of the plants that will be shut down is Hummer. We don't need gas guzzlers like that on the road. They serve no purpose other than to satisfy the egomaniacs who need a huge obnoxious vehicle in order for them to feel superior. We are not all going to be driving Smart cars. For pete's sake, be realistic. There is a solid purpose to keep manufacturing trucks and SUVs, and they can be made more energy efficient. We desperately need a new mindset in this country, one that insists on less consumption, more cost effectiveness with an eye to achieving freedom from foreign oil. In other words, we need to adapt a new attitude of learning to live without all the disgusting excess that goes on in this country. People need to wake up and reprioritize what is really important, which is not more, more, more. We can be the leaders in the world and set an example to everyone else that our values are more important than the trappings that we have prostituted ourselves for decades. This is not a bad thing!
"'The truth is that the president is just doing with GM what we, the people elected him to do: manage America’s decline and do it gently, painlessly, without seeming to abandon the old tropes of American Greatness."
I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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A good uplifting point of view from God.....
http://www.sjchurchofchrist.org/freeboot.shtml
That Bill WAS our president at one point and a good one at that....sm
DUH!
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Good point. Yeah, maybe that is the norm there.
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Good post. I think you made your point!
Go McCain/Palin 2008
"poo" litical, good point.
LOL sorry.
I think FOX is very balanced. We have every right to use words like FEAR and SCARED.
If Mccain had won and didn't seem like he was going to take into account anything from the left, you would be scared too.
Good point. We give money because we want to.
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Good, I made my point, but I won't move on.
 Too bad for you.
They bring out a good point about the strategy being used in Iraq. sm
The more I think about it, I think Bush is trying to keep it cool (keep casualties down) until he gets closer to his last days, then maybe he plans to let them have it. All of this tip toeing around the terrorist is not going to work. They are not going to fight fair. They are taking classes on how to make more powerful bombs without being detected - like the one that killed the 14 US troops this week.
They're stepping up their game and we have to step ours up. I think the drawback from doing this is that it will mean more US troop casualties and more Iraqi civilian deaths, and this administration knows that will cause them a backlash they don't have the balls to sustain.
good point.....this one bans if you don't agree with them....or maybe this has stopped since the
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Good dodge, but it doesn't let you off the hook with regards to the point
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I thought Brunson made a good point down below.
One of the reasons the antiwar protesters have not been taken more seriously is that they have personalized this against Bush and not against war. I do think it is possible to separate the two. But I also think that protesting in the streets puts our military at risk, in fact I know that it does. The pen is a mighty weapon. Senators and congressmen and women want to be reelected. Sitting in front of the WH with a bullhorn and shouting obscenities and name calling to the President of the United States is not going to ever work. And it shows a distinct lack of respect, if not for the man, then for the office and the White House itself.
Oh, hahaha. Good point, Rush. He is smarter than
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