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I guess we're going to have another 9/11 to prove our point

Posted By: rr on 2005-12-21
In Reply to: Oh, please, Drudge is as stupid - as the *King* - sm - Starcat

because your little mind doesn't even remember the first one. You guys need to give it up, because your lilly livered thought processes are losing. Nobody wants you all in charge that's why you keep LOSING ELECTIONS...that's because if you were in charge you would be hugging Muslim terrorists and telling them it's okay and that you understand them.

You can argue semantics of bills all day, but it doesn't make the fact of the dying liberal theology any less of a reality.


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Once again...you prove my point.
liberals are NOT about tolerance. There is nothing but INtolerance in your post...you, my friend, are a bigot. Only it is not a race, it is a belief system. "right wing rags" is NOT an example of tolerance of someone else's viewpoint. It is obvious for anyone who would care to, to see. Attack, attack, attack. If you are not like me, go away. I am not interested in another point of view,nor am I interested in debating any points.

You say equality, you say tolerance, you say no bigotry. Yet you do not tolerate opposition, you want to quell dissent, and you discriminate against conservatives.

Which leaves me with the impression that your lofty ideals are just that. Because you do NOT practice them. NOW I understand what the other liberal poster meant when they posted there are no true liberals in the Democratic party. Amen to that, poster, wherever you are!
You prove my point. Thank you. nm
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you prove my point so well
Hindsight is 20/20.  If we would not have allowed millions of people to buy houses that could not afford them, we would not be here.  If we would have decided that subprime loans were unstable and that a person should actually be required to be able to pay for what they want and be able to afford what their dream is, we would not be here.  America has adopted the mentality somewhere along the way that equality shouldnt be just about race or religion but about everyone having the right to the same things in life.  People have a false sense of entitlement.  These people that have helped our ecomony fail are the ones who have been living in a manner they should not have been.  This starts with the people who can work but dont.  The people who feed off of the states and have children for a business but do nothing to give back to the economy.  They are takers.  It also goes to the CEOs and the loan officers and the banks and all the big guys who have decided that it was okay to make billions off of the people in our society who are sponges and are willing to take any handout given to them, even if it means failure down the road.  They have made their fortunues based off of greed and lies.  They built us a false ecomony.  So if there are no jobs now and no credit to be had, you can thank them.  Problem is Obama wants to give to the takers and make us pay, the exact people who have done the right things, lived the way they should within their means, and the very working people who build our ecomony.  How is an new, strong economy going to be built off of welfare recipients who have never worked?  What economic stimulation are they going to offer?  It is simply crazy to me and I cannot see how people refuse to see this. 
You continue to prove my point. (nm)
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You continue to prove my point.

Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm
Joe Scarborough: Republicans want him to SHUT UP

On Joe's show tonight, he went off on Republicans that do not like him speaking out against this administration's handling of Katrina.

Joe: I'm getting lectured from Republicans in Oregon, California, upstate New York, Arizona telling me I need to back off the President, I need to back off of FEMA, I need to back off these state leaders. You and I are on the Gulf Coast- we know how these things are supposed to be run. This has nothing to do with politics...

                                Video-WMP

                                Video-QT

The Republicans are obviously worried that this Republican talk show host's point of view isn't following their talking points and is a real problem because he's not a Democrat saying them. Joe has been honest before (Schiavo not included) and is simply exposing their ineptitude that so many people are feeling right now.



Notice how I did't hand-pick text to prove a point.
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Gee, it's funny how you guys can go to page 11 to prove a point or hurl accusations.

The debate, actually several of them were with Lurker and are probably on page 2 or 3.  The person you speak of whom you saw was not debating, she was trolling and causing trouble. THAT isn't debate, but maybe we have just solved the problem.  You think it is debate.  Well there you go!


You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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guess another talking point

Obama wants to talk to terrorists is down the drain.  SP just wants to give speeches to them telling them how important they are.


 


I guess we're even. Cuz it's sorta like how we
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Hey LR, guess you're back?nm
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Guess not. We're already sharing
the wealth thanks to Bush and his cronies and it won't be any better if McCain is elected.  Probably won't be any better with Obama but I'll take my chance AGAINST McCain.
I guess that would depend on whether you're in that 70% that succeeds...
or in the 30% that fails.
ROFL! I guess the same thing you're doing.
  Have you noticed that your neck hurts from shaking your head a lot??? 
I guess you're smarter than the supreme court....
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I think you're right, up to a point.
"Shambles" is probably somewhat extreme, but I've seen the pieces that you're reading using the word.

Without any question, the Republican Party lost its sense of direction in recent years. And, without any question, it will take time to repair the damage that has done. And, without any question, the very best people in the world to help us do this - who are already helping us do this, in fact - are Mr. Obama, Ms. Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress. The more blunders they make, the more arrogant they become, the more they ram programs down the throats of Americans, and the more they pile the burden for the cost of all of this insanity on the average American - well, the better it is for all opposition parties.

You might be loving the drunken party at the moment, but watch out for the morning after.


You're missing the point.
Her age dictates his eligibility to run for president. There are lawsuits out now regarding this.
I think you're missing the point...(sm)

World economy, eliminting industries, creating new ones -- all things that can be dealt with.


Extinction of humans -- not so much.


 


See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
You're missing one crucial point
No where in there did you say that these white evangelical ministers are spouting hatred towards black people, calling them "less than human" or spouting about "black liberation theology" or the teaching of "Dr. James Cone".

Now if our "white preachers" were to go on and on about "white theology" and if our websites said "a white congregation" we would be immediately portrayed as racist. But it's okay for the United Trinity Church of Christ (Obama's church or former church, whatever) to have all over their website that they are a BLACK church. See for yourself:

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27

So I take it a white person walking in there wouldn't be very welcome?

Talk about racism.
Good point, if you're going to support something, you should be able to look at it (sm)
and still think you're right, right?
You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.

When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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I know he has nothing to prove to you....
but to the 48% of us who don't trust him, he does. I will believe it when I see it. There is nothing in his past to indicate he wants to wipe out party lines, unless that means bring us ALL into HIS light. His entire career has been hard left towing the party line. His votes have all been hard left toeing the party line. And now he wants us to believe that all disappears? He has undergone some miraculous change himself? I would feel better if he used the word "compromise" as much as he used the word "unite." All "unite" means to me is that he wants everyone to come to his side. His entire agenda is diametrically opposed to most of what I believe in. How is he going to "unite" people like him and people like me if he doesn't compromise?

Like I said...I am waiting to see what he does. He said himself he had to earn my trust. So far he is not doing so well. That could "change." Only time will tell.

BTW, this is not an attack. It is just my open and honest concerns about the POTUS. Concerns about any POTUS. I would have held McCain's feet to the fire too. He was certainly not my ideal candidate...but he beat the alternative. Now that the alternative has won...he has to prove himself to me and 48% of the country.
prove it.
Where is your proof that satan does not exist?  Where is your proof that the Bible is a fairytale?  Where is  your proof that Jesus doesnt exist?  Until you can show me some proof, this is just your opinion and doesnt really mean much or hold any water.
You would have to prove a ............. sm
genetic predisposition for this to be logical. Even if you did prove such a theory, the fact that a person has a particular gene does not necessarily mean that that gene will develop into a behavior.


Prove it
Yes he had to use Air Force 1 I think he and the Secret Service would look a little conspicuous on Continental, don't you? But he paid for everything else himself.

This is such a small, petty argument, I can't even believe you people are talking about it. Oh wait...yes I can....
Prove it
I have not seen one bit of proof that it was taxpayer money. Only Air Force 1 was a government expense and that could not be helped.

Where is your proof?
I don't have to prove anything. Those of us who were here know it to be true. nm

Then prove I said what you accused me of saying.

Show me the post I wrote where I claimed to have *inside info on rapture. She said so* as you accused me of in your post above.  Just copy and paste it and show me where I said I have inside info on the rapture. 


You can't prove it because I didn't say it.  So who's really the liar here?


What, may I respectfully ask, does this prove?
Lebanon and Israel have a long and colourful history of conflict.  I am not quite sure what this letter is meant to prove.  Hezbollah has used Lebanese residential areas to set up their missles and attack bases. Israel retaliates for the abduction of their people.  But first, they drop leaflets, warning civilians to leave.  Really, quite a first for this sort of thing.  I'm very sorry, but I, for one, am bloody tired of Israel being made the aggressor here.  Hamas and Hezbollah have pounded them nearly to oblivion and all you can worry about is a letter from the Lebanese?!  I am astounded. 
In Massachusetts we have to prove
we have health insurance when we file our state income taxes. We get a form from insurance company that we have to file. Otherwise you lose your personal exemption. I believe at one point part of the plan was they could garnish your wages but not sure on that.

This is all part of the insurance plan Romney came up with as governor, and he is supposed to be a conservative.
Prove to me that it is a rumor!!!
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Prove to me it is not!! Are you so jaded that you...
can't even give a 16-year-old the benefit of the doubt??
To what end? Prove a communist
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DOn't have to prove it....HE SAID IT. Geez...
did you read his letter? And I have been doing more research...you should too. This is not the end of the Saul Alinsky connection.
I am not the one who needs to prove or disprove it....
I accept it on its face. She did what she was supposed to do...look out for the interests of her state. Why would that surprise anyone? And she did a good job of it. Like I said, if she applies that same principle at the federal level, good for us, right?

If you lived in Alaska, wouldn't you want the $1200 as your part of the revenue Alaska oil generated? Or would you rather that was redistributed to the lower 48? Just asking.
cant prove a negative

pure speculation.  Not been attacked by little green people from Mars either.


 


don't have to prove a thing
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/6817.html
can you prove that it's a fake?
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If they win, it'll prove there's really no God.
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No he can't but papers are there that prove he was
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Nope, he has to prove a lot because
He claims to be born in Hawaii, which he cannot prove yet, and then he was adopted by a Kenhan man, which according to their laws, made him Muslim, and a citizen of Kenya. According to OUR laws, he cannot just come back and claim citizenship. He would have had to go through immigration process all over again and there is no immigration papers to find.

Still waiting for his proof.
Even if he could prove citizenship, which he
a citizen once he was adopted by the Indonesian stepfather. Once a child is adopted by someone from another country, they cannot claim citizenship to that country any longer, even if they were born there.

He has yet to produce immigration papers which show he applied for citizenship to this country, just like any "illegal" would have to do.
what do supporters prove?
What do you mean by "He'll make a fine President... He's going to do great and he's got the supporters to prove it." That only means he has people who think he will do well. Can't really say until he is in office and we see what he does. Unless you think all these people can predict the future.
unless you can prove the daddies do it
Unless you were there in the delivery room, I am guessing that his American mother gave birth to him.
Hahahahahahaha!!! - PROVE IT!
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Ever try to prove a negative?
The government can ''guestimate'' a number and send you a bill for what you ''owe''.  Then I guess it's up to you to prove they're wrong?  Not an enviable position to be in. 
Is that your mission in life? To try to prove that
Rather sad, really.