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He voted against it, and he said why...

Posted By: sam on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: sort of - ExMQMT

he said he was afraid that people would use the bill to somehow circumvent abortion rights. And for that he was willing to sacrifice even those babies who survived that heinous procedure. Does it matter WHY he voted against it? Does that change the fact that he DID?


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Dems voted for it, Biden voted for it....
Bill Clinton signed it into law. Plenty of blame to go around. McCain asked for regulation of Fannie/Freddie in 2005. Dems blocked it. The Dem record is slightly worse in the regulation/deregulation arena.

But...plenty of blame to go around.
Think again - nothing has been voted on yet
I guess you really don't get it, do you. I don't care if McCain or Obama is ahead but these polls mean absolutely nothing. Nothing has been settled yet. If Obama wins on 11/4 then that's fine. If McCain wins on 11/4 then that's fine, but for pete's sake stop acting like children spinning that your candidate has already won and they have more this or that. I've been watching the news on every station and reading all the websites and I have not found anything yet to say one has more votes than the other. Polls mean diddly. The real thing will happen on 11/4. Til then it would be a good idea to put a lid on your arrogance.

Like I say either way I don't care. Whoever gets in gets in. Either way the country is really really screwed! The question now is do you want someone to tell you your screwed to your face or do you want some to hide it in fluff and make you feel good while your being screwed.
They all voted against us

No one in Washington is standing up for us.  You are being pitted against each other by CNN and Fox.  There is no difference between the two candidates at all. They are both wimps.


Had he done so I would have voted for him most likely
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but he could have voted against it -
He did not have to sign that bill; even if it was for show because he knew it was going to pass, he could have not signed it just to prove the point that he does not support any pork barrel spending. Just goes to show, he is going to do whatever he wants to do when he gets in office - no matter what he promised. If he wants something done and he has to give away a lot of money to get it, he is going to give away a lot of money. He's no different than anyone else.
i voted against O, however...
i strongly opposed obama in the white house.  however, i do believe that now he is pres-elect, that we should be respectful and supportive in as much as possible.  he may well surprise even me and change some of his positions and prove to be a much better leader than i would expect.  i for one, will be praying for his wisdom and judgment. 
or maybe he voted the way he said he voted
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Why they voted for him...
obama fan: "I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage because if I help him[Obama], he’s gonna help me.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Any questions? Get a grip, I am happy not to be associated with voters like this.
Like I said, the ones who voted for him
either think he is their precious EVERYTHING, were too scared about the economy and were willing to vote for ANYTHING, or the ones who just voted for him because he is BLACK! Not too much of an intelligent vote either way!!

Flame all you want!
You mean he voted something besides
Who knew?
I do believe that it was voted

on whether or not we went to war in Iraq and I do believe that many Dems were on board at that time as well as many Americans.  It only became a problem with some when they realized how much money it was costing. 


Personally, I feel we should leave the middle east alone and let them kill each other.  However, when they strike on US turf.....they best get ready for a strike back. 


As for the stuff that Obama has been handed.....I know his job can't be easy and I wouldn't take it no matter how much money I was offered......but I still cannot condone what he is doing.  Taking the rights away from Catholic hospitals and making them perform abortions or lose their funding.  The continued bailing out of banks with big bonuses being slipped in there.  So many people in our government who have been appointed to positions and getting caught for not paying taxes but getting a get out of jail free card. 


Obama not crooked?  I'm sorry but look at the state he comes from.  Illinois is full of crooked politicians.  His associations alone make me question his morality.  His attendance to a church of hate was overlooked as nothing.  There are just so many things stacked against this man and yet so many people refuse to see it or just let it slide like it is nothing. 


Obama has had enough free passes.  This is my country and I have a right to question my government.  To me this is not the time to be going to other countries and telling them how arrogant the US is and how everything is our fault.  Just like every time Obama opens his mouth about his spending....he continually brings up Bush's spending instead of admitting his own excessive spending.


I'm tired of the government giving CEOs crap for having private jets when government officials waste more taxpayer money on planes, etc.  It is just ridiculous.  It is like the whole lot of them preaching "do as I say and not as I do."  Absolutely ridiculous. 


I just hope that come election time, we get some of these people out of office.....Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Reid........


They may have voted for what some
people want, but not everyone agrees with SSM. 
we actually voted in 2004....SM

http://ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm


state by state, counties too..........


I voted in our primary

on Tuesday. As soon as I put the card in the electronic machine it said invalid card even though I watched the woman run it through her little machine to clear it and saw it say clear twice. It took 3 people about 5 minutes to figure out how to get the card out of the machine. Then I got a new one. Everything went along fine until one choice. There were 4 people on the ballot; it would let me vote for 3 of them but not the 4th which was the one I wanted to vote for. I told them about this but nothing will happen. I think we should either have a paper trail or write them out long hand. Even if these machines were not suspect to begin with as far as tampering goes, just plain not working makes a huge difference in the vote.


I know that Bush did not win Florida in 2004. Thousands of African Americans did not stand in lines for hours to vote for Bush. You can take that to the bank and bet the farm on it too. My personal favorite though is a county that counted something like 10,000 votes for Bush and there are only 5,000 registered voters in the entire county !!! Go figure.


I never voted Democrat, but...
For one thing, Clinton WAS impeached. He just was not convicted. The Republicans caved. Shame on them! With that being said, while Obama did not actually "change" the seal, his campaign thought it would be cute to copy it for the meeting, Isuppose they did not have sense enough to realize what a firestorm it would cause. Well, duh, folks. Not everyone in the US is mesmerized by Obama the Pied Piper. The man is not nearly as eloquent without prompters. Can't think on his feet really well. Someone has their hand up his back pulling ALL the strings. I am tempted to think the initials are GS. THAT being said, I agree whole-heartedly about the Jeremiah Wright thing. I don't think I want a man as President who sat in the pew for 20 years and never heard the man "preach like that." Either he wasn't paying a bit of attention (which is highly unlikely as intelligent as he is supposed to be, right), or he was lying through his teeth (I vote for that one). But, just on the offchance he really "missed" that kind of preaching over 20 years, if he does get elected, my suggestion is someone else attend the cabinet meetings to take notes so he actually realizes what went on. lol. Not to mention security and intel briefings. I can't WAIT, if he is elected, to see who is his chief of staff and cabinet are. That will tell the tale I am thinkin, but by then it will be too late for buyers remorse. lol.
A lot of dems voted for the war too....
including Kerry and Hillary and untold others...including your VP candidate, Biden. Can't you tell the truth? What about the truth is so scary to you? You can go on line and see the roll call vote. Many, Many D's there. No war can ever be waged without a 2/3 vote of Congress. War is not a "conservative" thing. What a ridiculous lie. Do you ever go research anything or are you afraid lightning will strike you if you stray from Dem talking points??
I voted for Bush
The people who are campaigning are not the same people once they get into the white house. I voted for Bush. I also voted for Clinton. Both presidents turned out to be Bozo's but not until after they got into the position.

I think you need to stop accusing Sarah Palin of having no experience because that is going to backfire big time. Obama does not have any expereince either. The only two people expereinced are McCain and Biden. Also you want to talk about no experience think back to our forefathers. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, John Adams. Those people had no experience and yet they went on to be great leaders. Both Barack and Sarah do not have experience. The difference in my opinion is that Sarah is running for VP while Barack is running for President. Two candidates - both with no experience. Except that Sarah has balanced a budget, cut out wasteful spending, and stood up to the big oil people. She also gave money back to the citizens of Alaska who paid to much in gas/oil prices. I'll go for that over someone who did some community organization.
so every single pub voted for it and no pub

I've answered several of your questions.  Now try 2 of mine.  Did every single pub vote to pass it and did no pub receive any type of benefit from this situation? 


So would those 94 democrats who voted no.nm
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Yes, and 94 Democrats voted no. So why not...
11 more democrats voting yes instead of 11 more Republicans?
No, most of the Republicans voted against it...
because their constituency were 99 to 1 against it. The senators added the extra stuff hoping to entice some of those Republicans to vote yes instead of no. Plus to woo the 95 democrats who voted against it.

It is silly on its face for the Democrats to whine so much...if they would stop worrying about voting in the majority with George Bush, they could pass the thing themselves. They have the majority. But they want it to be "bipartisan" so if it does not work, they don't have to live out their congressional terms with "they voted with George Bush and crashed the economy" over their heads.

Politics first, constituents second. And so it goes.
he was voted in - she was chosen... nm
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You have already voted for communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
Haven't you voted YET?
What are you waiting for?
And you have no idea who they voted
just because they were black you assume they voted for Obama. Now, would that be racist?
Obamanation may have voted

no on that one, but Bush couldn't have passed that without the support of many others.  Quite a few politicians voted yes for that one.  So you can't really just blame ole bushy for that either. 


Besides, the surge has won and Obama has yet to really admit that and he owes it to our troops who have fought and the ones who have lost their lives to admit that their efforts have been successful. 


My question is this though....there is a whole lotta crap going on over in Afghanastan (sp?).  We have troops over there now.  Even if we pull out of Iraq and let the Iraqi law enforcement take charge.....what happens in Afghanastan?  Do we pull out of there too?  What does Obama suggest we do?  Does any one know his view points on this because this is something I've never really researched.


Obama voted against it, too!
What does that make him?
Why I voted for Obama (sm)

1.  I believe in a woman's right to choose.  I have read the FOCA bill and have based my decision on my interpretation of that bill in accordance with my own opinion.


2.  I believe the war in Iraq is a disaster.  I don't think it does credit to our troops to send them into harm's way for an unjust war.  Obama will end that war and get our military home.  The money we spend in Iraq is also included in that.


3.  I agree with Obama's tax plan.  I have sat down and compared the two, and in my situation, I get a better deal with Obama's plan.  I see no difference in McCain's plan and what is going on right now with Bush.


4.  McCain has shown is lack of leadershiip in the fact that he cannot manage his own campaign.  He ran all around like a chicken with his head cut off when the economic crisis hit.  Said he suspended his campaign and didn't. Obama submitted a plan and went with hit, showing leadership qualities.


5. Negative campaining:  This is something McCain and his wife publicly said he would not do, and yet he seems to be okay with it now.


The list is much longer, but these are a few.


Yes. He will be voted into office and be
He is a fine AMERICAN citizen who has dedicated his life to public service, has run a brilliant campaign, won over a "commanding" lead in the polls and will be making history in just 48 short hours or so.
I haven't voted yet.

I'm planning on hitting the polls a little later this morning.  Not too concerned about lines as our polling place is in a small town.


Gee Sam...wonder who you voted for.  LOL!  Go McCain/Palin!!! 


If you voted for "O" I can understand why....
LOL.
Voted last week, but..
wore an old pair of jeans and a white sweat shirt.
You should be asking all those people who voted for the ban. nm
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Sweden. They just voted
conservative for the first time in 84 or 86 years; they are tired of socialism. Bet you did not hear that by the drive-by! Don't care much for their burial arrangements, you are only good until the next in line dies, then you are dug up and moved to a common area. But they are very strict about animals coming in; they have never had rabies.
You know, GP, I voted for Obama and like

I said, I never cared for the Bush administration, but give Bush a break.  Enough is enough.


The EC voted yesterday......... sm
but those votes will not be counted until 1/6/2009 when both houses will convene to certify the votes. One can only hope and pray that there is still at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative with the intestinal fortitude to challenge that certification should it go in favor of Obama.

Just a side note. I was in a bookstore yesterday browsing the books when I came across a book cover designed to look like Time magazine with Obama's picture and the caption President Obama. How's that for audacity?
You mean the war the dems voted FOR also?
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Hillary was voted in as SOS....(sm)

The Senate voted 94-2, with Republican Senators David Vitter of Louisiana and Jim DeMint of South Carolina opposing.


Earlier Wednesday, Sen. John McCain implored his Republican colleagues to drop partisan demands and let the popular president get to work.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28750248


Thank you McCain!


I read and did not believe and I voted
for Obama. You just have to delve into things that just do not sound right.
You mean the one they voted in BEFORE O took office?
a couple of weeks back, the first words out of Obama's mouth when he addressed his White House Staff were announcing a salary freeze on highly paid WH aides. Remember?

Wehether or not the Congress is able to vote in yet another salary increase in the future remains to be seen, doesn't it now? My question to you is why you are dodging the subject at hand? Please explain to me why the govt should not cap TARP CEO salaries?
and Obama voted yes for it. (nm)
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How they voted yesterday.

 


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00061


I know all politicians lie to get voted in.

However, this is not the time to be playing games with us.  A lot more people are watching what government is doing because of what happened last term.  Obama really smooth talked a lot of people.  I think a lot of people are starting to worry like some of the rest of us about his real intentions.  Too bad we couldn't get the rest of the kool-aid drinkers to get a clue.


I say that next election we vote someone in who is neither a pub or a dem.  Shake up the parties a bit and let them know that we are fed up with both parties!!!!!


Yes and dems voted yes for that

joke of a bailout too. The dems had the majority then.....they could have stopped it.


I think the pubs know they have lost a lot of respect in the eyes of their constituents but I am encouraged by them not voting for this spending package that won't work.  I guess we just have to wait and see how it plays out.


I'm very educated and I voted for him

Maybe if you would take the time to educate yourself rather than just read crap on blogs, you might not worry so much.  The bill is creating the Congressional Commission on Civic Service, which may be referred to as the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (GIVE).


In section 6104 it states


(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:


(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.


They're simply exploring whether a national service requirement is even feasible.  They're not implementing anything yet.  Why people get worked up without even  knowing what they're getting worked up about is beyond me.  Which is why I usually stay off the political board.


I'm going back to work now.


 


Well, I think we all know who voted for this guy!! Two kinds!
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Why didn't someone ask her how she voted because

Hint:  She's from California, remember **Prop 8**? Jeesh!


Maybe the voting machines are too complicated for her.


You voted for Obama? NUF SAID! HA!
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(And so is my 82-year-old mother, who has voted

and we all thought he just voted "present"...nm
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LOL
does NOT change the fact that he voted NO
to Katrina relief and instead to send the money for the bridge to nowhere. And I think that was a bad choice.