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I do NOT want to fund this crap, but I am sure maybe some of the 25 in the stimulus might be okay, but then again MAYBE NOT. IF and ONLY IF some of the 25 others parts mentioned in the stimulus were okay, then I agree to add on later, but NOT NOW.
I agree, but congress will never let Obama
do everything he wants to do anyway. They never do for any president. When they do agree on something, congress will always have something in it for them or their interests and the middle class pays out nose for it.
NSA went to phone companies. Phone
companies told to route domestic calls outside U.S., and then reroute calls to the US, and then they spied on Americans' phone calls. Oh yes, let's spread freedom all over the world, but where's ours?!
new phone books with
much larger print.
and who wants to tell a stranger on the phone
who they are voting for anyway?? I have had several calls and I do not tell anyone who i am voting for. This is still America, right? isn't my vote my business and no one else's??? That amazes me - that people will tell a perfect stranger who just happens to have their phone number who they will vote for.
You must not have heard the phone ad yet they are
Hang on to your hat. Thing is, the only phone call I got from the O camp was Michelle asking me if I would consider supporting her husband. When I told her yes, she said "that's great" and that was that. The incoming call was clearly identified, giving me the option to answer or not.
You will catch the gist of the new ad on this evening's news. I will be willing to bet my 401K those calls wil arrive under the caler-ID radar. The content is as I have described in the previous post and in my way of thinking, WAY, WAY over the top.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
Million Phone March...sm
See link...
I don't think the phone call to CBS was a big deal....sm
This call has nothing to do with politics but more of a favor to a friend. He used his influence to help a friend out. Looks like CBS owed him the money anyway. Friends help each other out this way all the time, no harm done IMHO.
Travelgate is a different story. Firing the people for not reason to appoint friends is cronyism.
Huckabee's phone call from God. sm
Anyone else see this? Funny at first, but gave me the creeps by the end of it. I am surprised some of these people have not been struck by lightning.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/01/mister-huckabee-talks-to-god/#comments Yep, as long as none of us pick up a phone or
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Annoying phone call
You have no idea what is about to happen to this country if you do indeed vote for Hussane Obama. He is a socialist, and worse than that. Bottom line, truth of the matter is he wants to turn this country to socialism. You did not have to answer your phone. You chose to answer your phone. If you picked up the phone and realized what the add was you just hang up. How difficult is that? On the other hand, if Hussane Obama's group would have been on the other line, you would have fallen all over yourself. Come November remember this one thing if you do not remember anything else, you chose to vote for a "known terrorist." I do not know what news you are "listening too." I personally do NOT watch mainline TV -- esp not Communist network (CNN) as they are very slanted and do not deliver the true matters of things. Just remember you were warned, and if you vote a known terrorist backer then when this country becomes socialistic....you are the one who helped put him in there. YOu should be thankful for what you have already, and thankful for that phone call.
I'll answer the phone!!!!
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Larry Craig/W phone transcript
http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2007/09/larry-craig.asp
I believe the phone company can still find the caller....sm
or at least the number from which the call originated. Phone records are accessible to law enforcement agencies when there is a reason for investigation.
And along the same lines....
http://www.denverpost.com/keefe/ci_3933453#
Along these lines --
I worry also that because he is black, if he becomes president, he will be assassinated.
BTW--I'm voting for O because McCain has not convinced me enough that he is against Bush's decisions. I've had enough of Bush; therefore, I've had enough of McCain before he even gets started.
Looks like one of your own started the modern NSA wiretaps. I think the Democrats fail to realize there's this thing out there called the Internet and not just the bullhorn of the leftist media to give the peasants amnesia to what they've done in the past.
From Newsmax.com
Friday, May 19, 2006 12:49 a.m. EDT
Pat Leaky Leahy Aided NSA Phone Taps
In 1994 Sen. Pat Leaky Leahy co-wrote a law that forced telecommunications carriers to build convenient wiretap features into their networks enabling the kind of telephone records collection now at the heart of the controversy over the National Security Agency's terrorist surveillance operation.
In recent days Leahy has called the NSA's actions troubling and potentially illegal - saying they show that the Bush administration is treating Americans like terrorists.
'The secret collection of phone call records of tens of millions of Americans? he exclaimed after USA Today blew the lid off the program last week. Are you telling me that tens of millions of Americans are involved with al-Qaeda?
But according to the Rutland Herald, Leahy was singing a different tune 12 years ago, when he was pushing the Senate to pass his bill, the Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act [CALEA].
I suggest to senators if anybody does want to hold [CALEA] up, I hope that at this time next year, neither they nor their constituents, nor anybody they know, is a kidnap victim or victim of a terrorist, and have somebody ask why nothing can be done, and be told because a law that had probably 99 percent support in the House and the Senate did not pass.
Contacted by the Herald earlier this week, Leahy said there was an important difference between what his law authorized and the actions taken by the Bush administration.
That law talks of the technology of the interception and what technology can be used to intercept and it assumes very clearly that it can only be done with a warrant, the Vermont Democrat insisted.
Some legal experts say, however, said that assumption is not as clear as Leahy claims. Analyzing CALEA in 2003, the Rutgers Computer & Technology Law Journal explained:
CALEA requires a telecommunications provider to make 'its equipment, facilities, or services ... capable of ... enabling the government ... [without a warrant] to intercept ... all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier.'
Civil libertarians are also troubled by Leahy's law.
The secret search and wiretap provisions could lead to an age of Big Brother-like surveillance, the American Civil Liberties Union complained in the same Law Journal report. Americans who oppose U.S. policies and who are believed to have ties to foreign powers could find their homes broken into and their telephones tapped.
By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press WriterMon Apr 10, 4:55 PM ET
Key figures in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding, phone records introduced in criminal court show.
The records show that Bush campaign operative James Tobin, who recently was convicted in the case, made two dozen calls to the White House within a three-day period around Election Day 2002 — as the phone jamming operation was finalized, carried out and then abruptly shut down.
The national Republican Party, which paid millions in legal bills to defend Tobin, says the contacts involved routine election business and that it was preposterous to suggest the calls involved phone jamming.
The Justice Department has secured three convictions in the case but hasn't accused any White House or national Republican officials of wrongdoing, nor made any allegations suggesting party officials outside New Hampshire were involved. The phone records of calls to the White House were exhibits in Tobin's trial but prosecutors did not make them part of their case.
Democrats plan to ask a federal judge Tuesday to order GOP and White House officials to answer questions about the phone jamming in a civil lawsuit alleging voter fraud.
Repeated hang-up calls that jammed telephone lines at a Democratic get-out-the-vote center occurred in a Senate race in which Republican John Sununu defeated Democrat Jeanne Shaheen, 51 percent to 46 percent, on Nov. 5, 2002.
Besides the conviction of Tobin, the Republicans' New England regional director, prosecutors negotiated two plea bargains: one with a New Hampshire Republican Party official and another with the owner of a telemarketing firm involved in the scheme. The owner of the subcontractor firm whose employees made the hang-up calls is under indictment.
The phone records show that most calls to the White House were from Tobin, who became President Bush's presidential campaign chairman for the New England region in 2004. Other calls from New Hampshire senatorial campaign offices to the White House could have been made by a number of people.
A GOP campaign consultant in 2002, Jayne Millerick, made a 17-minute call to the White House on Election Day, but said in an interview she did not recall the subject. Millerick, who later became the New Hampshire GOP chairwoman, said in an interview she did not learn of the jamming until after the election.
A Democratic analysis of phone records introduced at Tobin's criminal trial show he made 115 outgoing calls — mostly to the same number in the White House political affairs office — between Sept. 17 and Nov. 22, 2002. Two dozen of the calls were made from 9:28 a.m. the day before the election through 2:17 a.m. the night after the voting.
There also were other calls between Republican officials during the period that the scheme was hatched and canceled.
Prosecutors did not need the White House calls to convict Tobin and negotiate the two guilty pleas.
Whatever the reason for not using the White House records, prosecutors tried a very narrow case, said Paul Twomey, who represented the Democratic Party in the criminal and civil cases. The Justice Department did not say why the White House records were not used.
The Democrats said in their civil case motion that they were entitled to know the purpose of the calls to government offices at the time of the planning and implementation of the phone-jamming conspiracy ... and the timing of the phone calls made by Mr. Tobin on Election Day.
While national Republican officials have said they deplore such operations, the Republican National Committee said it paid for Tobin's defense because he is a longtime supporter and told officials he had committed no crime.
By Nov. 4, 2002, the Monday before the election, an Idaho firm was hired to make the hang-up calls. The Republican state chairman at the time, John Dowd, said in an interview he learned of the scheme that day and tried to stop it.
Dowd, who blamed an aide for devising the scheme without his knowledge, contended that the jamming began on Election Day despite his efforts. A police report confirmed the Manchester Professional Fire Fighters Association reported the hang-up calls began about 7:15 a.m. and continued for about two hours. The association was offering rides to the polls.
Virtually all the calls to the White House went to the same number, which currently rings inside the political affairs office. In 2002, White House political affairs was led by now-RNC chairman Ken Mehlman. The White House declined to say which staffer was assigned that phone number in 2002.
As policy, we don't discuss ongoing legal proceedings within the courts, White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said.
Robert Kelner, a Washington lawyer representing the Republican National Committee in the civil litigation, said there was no connection between the phone jamming operation and the calls to the White House and party officials.
On Election Day, as anybody involved in politics knows, there's a tremendous volume of calls between political operatives in the field and political operatives in Washington, Kelner said.
If all you're pointing out is calls between Republican National Committee regional political officials and the White House political office on Election Day, you're pointing out nothing that hasn't been true on every Election Day, he said.
Thanks. Interesting the division lines. sm
Orthodox Jews probably have a greater knowledge and care for history and maybe longer memories. At any rate, from these articles it does seem there majority do support the Gaza withdrawal. I can only say, I believe they will come to regret that. But that's only my opinion gleaned from the statements of Hamas.
You have to read between the lines. It's rampant.
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Oh those O lovers can't read between the lines
right to the slaughter. He has changed his policies several times. He sways with the wind and gets his advisors to revamp "his" policies every time the wind changes direction. Which is why all those that believe those numbers mean anything, are fooling themselves.
You can't 3.5+ trillion dollars worth of government increase by Obama with those small little amounts the O lovers keep reciting on this board. They're making your case and too dumb to know it.
If it's ONLY a few more dollars, how do they think he can pay 3.5 trillion dollars in government increases with that? Wiping out party lines......... sm
and uniting our bipartisan system into a single united front is just one step closer to a one-world government. I would be very leary of anyone, Republican or Democrat or any other political party, who wants to do this. This country was founded on the believe that government should be of the people and as long as you have 2 or more people, you will have different opinions and needs and values.
Lest you bash me for being negative, let me assure you that I am quite positive that Obama will bring about change, but will that change be in the best interest of ALL Americans or just the ones who voted for him?
Just following in lines of being absolutely nauseating
Since every single day when I get on I see a dem posting how many days left til change of office I too am following their lead and will post how many days until the next president comes in. If people don't like it then don't count down every single days how many days left until this change.
Oh, I hope Obama does a good job, after all I did vote for him in the primaries (I didn't vote in the general election), but I just wanted to show how absolutely nauseating and ignorant of the person who keeps posting how many days left til the change of this office.
I'm looking forward to GW finally being gone, but I am getting a bit nauseated (do you understand yet how sick I am of it) at the absolute ignorance and arrogance with people doing a countdown - hence, my countdown too. I'm very open-minded, hope all goes well and there are a lot of people in government I would love to see in office (always keep an open mind). I am always looking forward to the future.
As you said - just my two cents.
we're kind of along the same lines, but not on everything
As for her being a guest on the show, they knew full well exactly what she is like before they accepted her as a guest. There are a lot of people in the country who like her even if you and I don't. As for Andrew Dice Clay? All I have to say is if the View thinks him important enough to invite on the show, then yes I think it would be fine. If I didn't want to hear what he had to say then I would just change the channel and not watch the show that day (although I don't watch the show at all).
First, I said your post was a bit Nazi-ism because that is the way it came off with the statement that there is no reason to have her on the show. If certain people will control who should or shouldn't be on what shows, then where does that lead to next, the burning of books you don't believe people need to read?
Okay, I have to ask you, do you hear yourself or read back your posts looking at it from an objectable opinion. You stated in this post "There are standards of society to be met in accepting a visitor into one's home or one's television program". Take a step back and read that statement (especially the words "standards of society". I'm sorry and I don't know how to say this gently and I'm certainly NOT NOT NOT saying you are "like" him, but that statement there is similar what Hitler said talking about the jews. stop trying you read between the lines,
there is nothing there, bad comparison.
Trying out to be Sherlock Holmes?
My husband does just that. He is on the phone weekly with our sens and reps. state and federal. sm
Our congressment and senators et AL are on speed dial. If my husband has a beef or a question, he is on the phone letting them know (nicely of course) that they screwed up. But on the other hand he does call and tell them thank you when they do something right. One of the congressmen from Michigan voted no on the bailout. So he got a call from both of us. Same with the senator from Michigan who voted FOR the bailout. He got a call saying he has just lost 2 votes. We may be a minority, but the aides in those offices know who my husband is..and all he has to say is his first name. If you keep the heat on, hopefully things can change. Maybe not right away, but hopefully at some time. Just not in my lifetime I am afraid.
If I were an independent voter receiving McCain's garbage phone ad this weekend
You're making dinner and trying to sit down with your family to eat after an exhausting work week and pouring over your 401K loss report. You have just found out that the $42,000 you had accumulated as of last spring is now worth $26,040. You've just turned off the burner under the hot veggies when, BRRRINNNGGGG, the phone rings. It's the McCain campaign delivering an urgent message to you in the privacy of your own home, assuming you never listen to network news, read a paper or go on line and are unaware of their latest breaking news....telling you that Barack Obama is a terrorist who hangs with other terrorists, on the off chance that it might capture your previously uncommitted vote. If it happened to me, I would be up with the chickens Monday morning at the early voting polls telling every single peson within earshot that I had just voted a straight Dem ticket. How dare they?
If you go to www.actforamerica.org, or even American Congress for Truth, they bring up the Christianity vs Muslim dust up in the UK. Another place you could possibly find out more is the American Family Association website.
Either way, religion of any kind is being swept out and if we don't wake up soon, we will all be praying to Mecca or some other sponsored religion and wondering where "God" went.
JTBB wrote 7 lines, you say she conflated them into
16 issues and can't answer. Did I read you correctly, you're going to be an intelligence analyst? OMG!!
Amen! This cuts across all party lines
EVERY American man, woman and child should be up in arms and demand answers about this. How absolutely disgusting!
I live in Texas and we have the same problems this teacher is discussing here. It's time we take back OUR country and send the illegals packing.
why don't they vote into law that the ticket has to have a Rep. and a Democrat. So, for example, this year it would be Obama/Palin and McCain/Biden. Not that the Pres. candidate would have to choose those 2 particular but Obama would have to have Rep. and McCain would have to have a Dem.
I am sure this will never happen in my lifetime but I have always thought that.
Their majority is going to be fleeting if they keep this up, because even their own constituents are getting steamed at their lack of progress.
Congress
Actually the Congress should be smarter than to be snookered. They're snookered because they want to be. None of them are looking out for the American citizens. After all, would they give any of us billions of dollars in loans without knowing what we were going to do with the money? Think what they'd do if we borrowed money to buy a house and then spent the money on a posh vacation. We'd be in the federal pen is where we ordinary peons would be!!!
letter to Congress
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:59:37 -0800 (PST) From: NT <nancyt1210@yahoo.com> Subject: Open Letter to Congress from a Veteran and Military Dad
Stan Goff is Vietnam veteran and son served in Iraq. An Open Letter to Congress from a Veteran and Military Dad On Power By STAN GOFF, Dec. 2, 2005 (Disclaiming in advance for the rare exceptions in Congress) If there is one thing we can always count on, it's politicians who walk over human corpses to show fear only in the face of something as formless and abstract as an opinion poll. Many of us in the veterans and military families antiwar movement are well-versed on so-called realism--and that deference we are supposed to exercise when we approach elected officials, hat in hand, for a few crumbs of your attention and support. We understand power very well. You are fighting each other for your careers, and you are retaining your power over us through distance and guile, and trying to promote that power by pretending you are hearing our concerns. But we have more than concerns at stake here. It is because we understand power that we haven't the slightest intention of allowing ourselves to be used to promote your careers past the 2006 elections. If you fail to demand US withdrawal now, you are supporting the war; and if you support the war, as far as we are concerned, you can go straight to hell in 2006. It is because we understand power that we are not going to forgive and forget that when the war fever was up, fed by the lies of Republicans, the war was facilitated by the eager xenophobic complicity of most Democrats, and by the slavish obedience of the corporate press. Most of you not only co-signed what you knew to be an illegal invasion--you have continued to sign the checks to perpetuate the war. You wanted to be lied to about the war, because the polls supported the war, and you were sniffing the political air. It is because we understand power that we know that most of you did this out of craven opportunism and a concern for your political ambitions--knowing full well that no one you loved was likely to be sent home without a limb, without an eye, without a life. It is because we understand power that we know how cynically cavalier you are with the lives of others, and how narcissistically self-promoting. It is because we understand power that we understand why many of you are backpedaling in your support for the war. You are maneuvering to be critical of the war. You demand the administration provide an effective exit strategy. And you haven't said a goddamned substantive thing, as the cameras shutter away for you. And you want us to play along--so you can beat Republicans without taking a single real position. You don't want to stop this war. You want to win an election. By the time you win that election, another thousand troops and another 20,000 Iraqis could be dead. We do not calculate time the way you do. It is because we understand power that we know most of you will stand by while those of us with less privilege see our loved ones sent to kill and die. The real corpses produced by the exercise of power are no more to you than a political calculation. We understand power, because we know what really stands behind it. Power is embodied in the mounted cops you use to police our protests. Power is expressed by the armed guards for your gated communities. Power is the ability to kill and maim and get away with it, even if you dress it up in $5,000 suits and trot it out on the talk-show circuit, on C-Span, in your interviews with CNN. Power is projected onto other peoples using your Cruise missiles and A-10s and Bradley fighting vehicles and the people who join the military. And the price of that power doesn't merely come from our pockets. We probably wouldn't fight you about how you rob us for your pork barrel defense contracts. The price that has us in motion right now--you really must understand this, because it means we will never back off--is exacted on the bodies of human beings. The price is exacted with mortars, with IEDs, with high powered rifle ammunition, with bombs, with the same A-10s and Bradleys; and it is exacted on the bodies of our loved ones and the loved ones of the Iraqi people. That's why we are not going to grant you the power to manipulate us, to contain us, to corral us, or to pimp our grief over this war and its costs on behalf of your political careers or the needs of a political party. That's why were are going to be rudely explicit when we say that your bombast against the Bush administration--as if they did this without your help--in calling for a more effective exit strategy and demanding that people merely think about a plan for withdrawal from Iraq that will take months or years this verbiage is meaningless and manipulative. We will never stand for studying a withdrawal, for phasing a withdrawal, for delaying a withdrawal, for setting conditions for a withdrawal, or for partial withdrawal. Never. Our demand from the beginning remains unchanged. It is for withdrawal, and for immediate, unilateral, unconditional withdrawal; and if political careers go up in smoke as a consequence, we do not give a good goddamn. People are dying in Iraq as a direct result of this war every single day. Go back to your fucking law offices and let our children live. Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while those military sedans continue to roll up in front of people's houses to announce the extinction of a human being to his or her family and while the bodies are dropped into the fresh graves at the cemeteries of Iraq. Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the poisons accumulate in the soil and water and food of Iraq, and in the bodies of Iraqis and occupation troops. Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the hospitals fill up with the lamed, maimed, blinded, and disfigured. Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the grief and horror associated with this criminal war become the daily emotional fare of more and more people, occupation forces and Iraqis. No member of Congress has the moral right to dither on the question of his or her precious career while a single constituent is facing the fear of that devastating knock on the door. We say the emperor has no clothes; and we say we know you when you feign concern with your eye fixed firmly on your ambition. An exit is not a strategy. An exit is a command. If the commander in chief won't give that command, then you in Congress--if you want to salvage anything that looks vaguely like a conscience or a soul--will refuse to grant this administration another penny to continue this war. We are not hearing you when you tap dance about political realism. The mounting mass of corpses, that you have walked over every time you voted a cent to continue this war, is about as real as it gets. Don't you dare ever lecture military families and veterans about realism. And don't you doubt that we understand power. You may think you can respond to your careerist concerns in the face of reversing polls. You may think you can pretend to do something, that you can bewilder us into accepting half a loaf better than none. To the tiny handful of you in Congress who have said what we say, Out Now!, we commend you and thank you for your principled voices. To those of you who are openly supporting this criminal administration, we'll see you in the street, and history will consign your names to the chapters about imperial bullying, comb-over machismo, and cognitive mediocrity. To those of you who call for half measures, phases, and strategies, you are directly in front of us now. You are standing directly in our path, and we are not going to go around you. We are not going to commend you on being better than the reactionaries. We are not going to thank you for our half a loaf. We are not going to try and give you the political cover you need to wiggle around those shifting opinion polls while you salvage your careers. We do not love you. We find your ambivalence contemptible. We love the people who are facing the real consequences of this war while you schmooze your way through the chicken-salad circuits of imperial power, nattering on about realism and phases and strategies. You will not divert our attention away from you. You will redirect neither our anger nor our will away from you. It is you who are standing directly in our way; and every time you try to dicker about people's lives with us like we are in street market, every time you try to pimp our outrage at this crime, as a mere concern that only you are entitled to address with your careerist half-measures, we will call you to account. We will embarrass you. We will shine a spotlight on your cowardice, your opportunism, and your grotesque cynical hypocrisy. November 2006 is not an election to us; it is a body count. If you think you can take us for granted over an election, think again. Get it right, because we have never wavered on our position. The mass of American society is moving toward us, not you. They are listening more and more to us, and less and less to you. We are about saving lives, not saving face. So get it right, and get it right fast. We are looking at your political house with an eye to pulling it down. We understand power very well. Stan Goff is the author of Hideous Dream: A Soldier's Memoir of the US Invasion of Haiti (Soft Skull Press, 2000), Full Spectrum Disorder (Soft Skull Press, 2003) and Sex & War which will be released approximately December, 2005. He is retired from the United States Army. His blog is at www.stangoff.com. Goff can be reached at: sherrynstan@igc.org
Yep, the dems in congress won't do anything
until they have a dem as president. They know if they do something positive, such as helping us with our oil/energy problem, Bush will get the credit and they won't stand for that.
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