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I believe the Obama has just responded in the news....sm

Posted By: ms on 2008-09-24
In Reply to: you should let Obama - you

and "me" is right.

Obama is for Obama. Period.

He won't suspend his campaign. He wants the debate to go on.



At least McCain has class and leadership in this area.


Obama is...well....just for Obama




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This is old news and I believe it was Obama's
campaign that released the thesis so I don't really know if they were the ones trying to suppress it to begin with - but I don't know.

I guess my question is - what part of it did you think was racist? I know a couple of phrases from it have been quoted out of context, especially in mass e-mails.
I responded to your above in the
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A little more unsettling news about Obama...
I read that Madeline Albright (of Clinton Administration fame) is one of his top security and foreign relations advisors.  The same Madeline Albright who was instrumental in the sanctions against Iraq (yes, Clinton wanted to get rid of him too).  I wondered where Obama was getting his idea about "sanctions" and an "international coalition" against Iran (after he had to back down on his 'I would talk to Ahmadinejad face to face with no rules' remark...loose quote).  That is very unsettling to me.  Most people have forgotten how many Iraqi civilians died as a result of those sanctions because any food going into the country Hussein kept for himself and his party...over a million people died, half of those children.  That is 500,000 children.  That is a death toll MUCH greater than the entire Iraq war has caused....so if you are a body counter, it would serve you well to remember that.  And that same Madeline Albright, when asked if it was worth it, replied, basically, "We think the price is worth it."  She later apologized for the remark; however, here she is again hawking sanctions and Obama is on the train.  Sanctions don't work.  Didn't work in Iraq, won't work in Iran.  Much "food" for thought.
Yeah, that was on the news. Obama almost
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Good for Fox News...they refused to run an ad against Obama...

put together by a private citizen (not the McCain campaign), the same guy who was behind the swift boat ads against Kerry.  They could have run it and they chose not to.  Good for them!  I admit, there is cause for concern about Obama's connection to Ayers, but that kind of ad where it is mean accusation and innuendo with no real proof shouldn't be run, in my opinion.  Good for them for stepping up.   


Old news -- instead of trash-talking Obama
 I haven't heard any initiatives out of him yet!  Just the trash-talking!
Don't need FOX news; I can read Obama's perversion
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I responded to the challenge in the OP.
I have responded to this by adding comments to each item. Don't need to check my facts. I already researched my points the first time around. I put them out there the way I see it. Items 1 through 8 occurred prior to 1995 under a democratic majority Congress. Number 9 was a cooperative international initiative that played out in UN International Tribunal and did not involve direct participation by the US congress. A lengthy explanation by way of disclaimer appears in #10. Numbers 11 and 13 have no comment as I am certain the republicans would like to take all the credit for those. Bill Clinton went against his own party's best efforts to oppose numbers 11 and 13 and did employ line vetoes to them or otherwise obstruct these laws. He signed them into law. That's all I was trying to say, in response to the challenge from the original poster
1. Family and Medical Leave Act.
2. Established web-based information and communication systems in the White House, federal agencies, US Courts and military.
3. Brady Bill requiring background checks on handgun purchase.
4. Expansion of earned income credit.
5. Balanced the budget.
6. Cut taxes for low-income families.
7. Cut taxes for small business.
8. Restricted government spending.
9. In cooperation with NATO, Slobodan Milosevic convicted for crimes against humanity for ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavian Republic.
10. Communications Decency Act to regulate pornography on the Internet.
11. Welfare reform.
12. Increased minimum wage.
Defense of Marriage Act (right-wingers ought to love that one).
13. Maintained high approval ratings throughout his presidency, leaving office with record-breaking 73% approval ratings IN SPITE OF unsuccessful impeachment proceedings.
14. Booming economy.
15. Creation of $559 billion budget surplus.

So what exactly are you trying to say…that Bill Clinton had absolutely nothing to do with any legislative initiatives that transpired after the so-called Republican revolution in 1995? Looks like trying to hog the spotlight to me.
yea, I'm sure the poster that responded to me . . .
tattled on me, so that explains that :>(
I know how you feel. Responded to GP's
poll about why voting for McCain and had my response dissected because obviously GP didn't like one of my reasons for why I'm voting the way I am. 
I responded to the OP post above. (sm)

I think the most immediate and urgent problem facing us is the economy. 


All the "experts" have been wrong about this so far.  As I said, Paulson can't even stay on the same page HE WROTE.  The only people, so far, who are benefiting from the trillion dollar bailout are the richest of the rich.  The government is buying banks (isn't that fascism?). 


If we are truly headed for the next "Great Depression," then there is literally not one person who is alive who had the "experience" to handle the last depression that could be brought to help with the current one.


I truly hope your feeling that Obama would rule with an "iron fist in the velvet glove" is correct, and for now that's pretty much all I can hope for.  Only time will tell, I guess.  I just keep getting a very gloomy feeling about the future, and I fear that something very, VERY bad is going to happen very, VERY soon -- within months, not years. 


I was curious if anyone responded
My computer crashed and I've been offline for a couple days. (Talk about totally lost). There are so many great quotes of our founding fathers. Their dreams, hopes and everything they worked for to build a great country is being destroyed. It's just all very sad. They sacrificed so much and some lost everything and people don't seem to care.

Thank you for responding to my message. Don't ask where I found that quote though cos I lost everything in the crash. Although thinking about that now maybe it was a good thing. HA HA HA.
Maybe this will clarify why ND responded that way.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-12-10-corruptstates_N.htm

Yes I read their comments about USA Today. The OP did analysis had very similar results. Here are a few more who beg to differ:

http://www.drudge.com/news/115767/nd-most-corrupt-state

http://minnesotaindependent.com/20089/most-corrupt-new-york-times-vindicates-north-dakota-sort-of

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2008/12/is_illinois_the_most_corrupt_s.html

http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/louisiana-most-corrupt-state-in-the-us/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jan/18/20040118-114320-9103r/

http://www.commondreams.org/news2007/1008-04.htm



gee, one-sided U.S. news coverage...go figure....it's how Obama

Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:

0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

Who is this human being promised to all?

Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.

WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:

Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."

So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.


Heard in the news that Obama can never reason with Iran.
Maybe you all might know this, but this is news to my ears. During most of President of Iran Ahmadinejad's speeches he always states this:

0, Almighty God, all men and women are Your creatures and You have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

Who is this human being promised to all?

Their new messiah. The way this new messiah appears is by getting rid of little Satan and big Satan. Iran muslims,(I was told there are 2 type of muslims) believe when messiah appears, there has to be a lot of blood shed.

WHO IS THE LITTLE SATAN AND BIG SATAN?:

Israel's role is first of all to protect itself, but also to alert others to the danger of militant Islam. They intend to go after Israel, but for them Israel is merely the "little Satan," one stepping stone on the march to world domination. For Ahmadinejad's Iran, Europe is a "middle-sized Satan" and the United States is the "great Satan."

So, how can you reason and do talks with president Iran when he thinks this way and muslims think this way? It is not all muslims that do, but this one particular type. How can you reason with Ahmadinejad when United States in his eyes is Satan? He wants us dead so this new messiah will come to them.

Didn't Bush call him a Tyrant?

She ignored that ridiculous statement and responded to the

*nice* reference where she was called an elitist pig.


She replied with Yup, elistist pig here..Yeehhaaww~~


Where DOES one find glasses that can twist and contort a statement out of recognition until it reflects what you want it to say?


you responded to posts from a YEAR ago....
  old old news.........
I think you responded to the wrong thread.

OBAMA WON!!! Despite Faux News attempts to thwart the success WE DID IT
very good news and what a relief
Nagin responded to warnings and pleaded for help.
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The copout was saying because no one responded to your post about Wright...
that there must be nothing to it. THAT is a copout. I didn't say anything about any of the other stuff you posted here. As to being tortured for 7 years, electing to stay when you could have been released and not have to endure years more...simply because you felt other men deserved to be released before you? That is the strength of character and devotion to country the Presidency has not seen in YEARS and is SORELY needed. I would have thought YOU would have appreciated that.
I think you responded to the wrong person here. You're
My whole point was that the UK is not the country to talk about banning "extreme" ideas. They're loaded with extremists yammering on every street corner and advocating violent jihad.
If you go back and reread the post gt posted about Laura I responded to that. sm

And, if you were following what I was saying I was talking about the posts on the neocon board between Nan, AG and the Nameless Trolls.


Get the picture?


FOX news IS the news. The only 1 that tells BOTH
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It's all over the news - and I mean ALL news stations.
not just the ones you don't like.

Do you get any news except at the DU? ????? NM

Believe it or not, I do keep up with the news.
I realize this is an old story, but it has a new twist to it because now Gary Bernsten is now giving the specifics surrounding it.
When the news first came out that he was..sm
hosting a fundraiser for her I thought it was weird, but now that you bring it up (and it's a good question) I did some research and it appears that old Ruppert has a history of switching his backing between parties. Some believe his main objective is monopoly in broadcasting, not party loyalty or belief in party ideals (aka Big Business 102).

Excerpt from wsws.org: 'When it comes to politics, Murdoch, known in media circles as the “dirty digger,” is equally adaptable in pursuing his personal gain. The most loyal right-wing Tory and friend of Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s, as he built up his media holdings in Britain, he switched his loyalties to “New Labour” when he saw that Tony Blair could provide a fresh face for even more reactionary politics and was more than willing to further Murdoch’s interests in return for editorial backing. He made similar swings in his native Australia between the Labor and Liberal parties to further his efforts at monopolizing the print and broadcast media.'
Actually, I saw it on ABC News....
the footage of Obama not putting hand over heart for pledge. In all fairness, that is the only footage I have seen of him not doing so....never was a recipient of whatever chain email you are speaking of. Believe it...yes, saw it with my own eyes. Why he did it, have no idea. There could be a multitude of reasons why he didn't do it. Here is the big BUT...it does make one a but curious when coupled with the fact that he dispensed with wearing of the flag pin on his lapel. I heard his explanation; I am just not sure I buy it. Each thing alone not such a big deal...together, it does make one wonder, so I can see why nanna might have reservations. It is good to question things and not take everything at face value...be the candidate Dem, Repub, Inde...whatever.
Fox news

A propanganda machine for repubs.  No one is obligated to appear on that network.  There are plenty of other media outlets. Fox's ratings are dropping and MSNC's are climbing.  Fox disguises these facts by including their entertainment ratings in with their "news" ratings.  As far as ALL OTHER MEDIA being liberal, that is a transparent technique to keep viewers from getting opinions from ANY OTHER source than Fox.  I certainly wouldn't fall for that bunko.  I also notice that they concentrate on certain sites such as Media Matters and NY Times specifically because those sites are excellent at presenting the truth about distorted information disseminated by the propaganda machine. To each his own.


 


 


Where do you get your news?

Sorry, I'm conservative, but have to ask why you would go down that road when you can find those answers yourself.


Might I suggest worldnetdaily.com, townhall.com, drudgereport.com, breitbart.com, talk radio (and the hosts' web sites, including Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Savage, Levin, Michelle Malkin, Rush, etc.).  There are countless news stories that never make the mainstream media.


Another thing to consider is who a person keeps for company.  When questionable names keep coming up (Pflager, Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, etc.), that would concern me if I were considering any kind of relationship with someone, but that's just me.


Those who support Obama get their news from MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and so on.  Those networks alone have been proven repeatedly to be biased.  All the times that McCain went abroad, where were Couric, Gibson, and Williams?  Why would any American think that the Democrats, who are determined to reinstate Fairness Doctrine, think that it won't come back and bite them?  Why should any American be silenced just because one group disagrees with another?


Do you know what is posted on blogs like the DailyKos and HuffingtonPost? 


Lastly, a couple more stats.  The #1 most liberal Senator is Obama.  Kennedy is #2, Biden is #3.  Even the moderate Democrats are distancing themselves from him.  This info is documented and not fiction.


That's rather left of left, I would say.


I'm already looking for my fire extinguisher, but the truth hurts sometimes.


Trust your own gut.


She knows it because it was all over the news
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news

You have more options now than anytime in history to gather information.  You can gather information from both sides of the issue and verify the facts and then make your own decision based on your personal values.


 


Old news....nm
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Fox News is the only one I DO believe.
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SP on ABC News
Just saw first installment of interview with SP with Charlie Gibson.  In my opinion, she really messed that up!  Experienced and ready to lead?  No way.  Danced around every question and flat out lied when asked what she said about Iraq War being a mission from God.  What's the worst thing about listening to her for the first time in her own words, she says NUCULAR!!!  Just like George Bush.  Oh no...not again. 
SP on ABC News
She was so nervous, she had big red blotches on the side of her neck. He pressed on dancing around and not answering the questions he asked. She looked like a deer in the headlights to me.
old news....ho hum.. nm
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NBC news...
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/17/1413605.aspx
old news
This happened years ago, not yesterday. How come you are just hearing about it? Did you check your dates in snopes?
Maybe old news, but why does no one get it? sm
do you just want to ignore all the blatant truths about Obama being linked to terrorists and cling to hope that he is not REALLY a terrorist and hope that he really will do what he says? So just blindly accept him at his word and ignore all the indications that tell us otherwise. Do you not see any huge red flags waving in front of your eyes??
Fox NEWS is not the news
Joe the plumber is a plant! All your info is wrong.
Fox News
Plenty has been said about Sarah Palin's appearance, from her designer glasses to her striking similarity to actress Tina Fey.

But lately her stylish look has come at a price -- more than $150,000 of which was paid for by the Republican National Committee -- according to a report Tuesday by Politico.

The Web site cited financial disclosure records that suggest the wardrobe makeover began in September and included bills from Sak's Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York totaling nearly $50,000.

The documents also show a $75,000 shopping trip at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis in September, as well as about $4,700 spent on hair and makeup, Politico reported. Documents don't show similar costs in August.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/21/report-rnc-spent-g-spruce-palin/
fox news
Good Evening,

 

1.  On Sunday night at 9 on Fox News, Hannity's America will run "The Ten Reasons Why Barack Obama Should Not Be President."  Please spread the word.

 

2.  The article that follows is about Sarah Palin and the elites (both Democrat and Republican).  It is well worth the read:

 


And this is news how?????
HA HA HA HA HA. I never trusted her. I just hope I see as less of Dillary than I do of Condi.
It's news because...(sm)

Israel is getting ready to invade Gaza and is already in the process of bombing raids.  Meanwhile the current US administration (aka Bush/Condi/Cheney/etc) is perpetuating the lies about Gaza, such as who is the real terrorist, ignoring a legitimate democratically elected council, etc.  The OP explains all this.  Bottom line is that the US is giving Israel a green light, which to some of us (as well as a large portion of the world) is condoning genocide. 


And Americans wonder why the rest of the world has such a bad opinion of us. 


Old news.......
I posted the entire article on how Obama wants to pay for abortions in Ethiopia and abroad with MY money but instead of responses of "NOT MY MONEY", all I got was criticism for being AGAINST abortion......

Go figure..... that's what I mean when I say this country has lost its loyalty to itself and we have a president who has absoluely no loyalty to this country; his loyalties lie elsewhere
I saw it on the news. It is to try
this stimulus. Also that is why Obama had townhall meetings to show congress "We the people" want this stimulus to pass.

Boy, Obama sure loves campaigning and speeches.


Old news - nm

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I would think Fox News would be enough
Unless, of course, you have built up your tolerance for it by listening to Michael Savage.