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I didn't see where Shelly has attacked people unless

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2008-11-12
In Reply to: Oh, WHATEVER!!! - Just Me

they attacked her first, and then she tried to explain the first post in simple English.


This is the most I have posted on this board in the last 2 months but I just can't take all attacks against people just because they voted  for the pubs.  I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again today, STOP THE BASHING. IT DOESN'T GET YOU ANYWHERE.  All it causes is hate.


P.S. Mrs. M is the one of the worse on here. I have never seen her post before today or yesterday (didn't look at the dates). I think she's just trying to stir the pot.




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    You just attacked all of the McCain people
    in your post, so yes you are a hypocrite. You expect nobody to respond to that? You could have just e-mailed her with that personal post.
    OMG, don't you get tired of people who didn't have the
    courage to serve in their time tell us what we should think and believe about war?


    I didn't know there were so many uneducated people in the world. SM

    Ever hear that phrase better to be silent and be thought intelligent than speak and remove all doubt?  You people are ignorant of history and that is what is wrong with the country.  You embarrass liberals by debating with stupidity and posting replies to an historically correct post. Please stop it.


    What if Obama didn't hate people like me? (sm)
    I like Obama as a speaker, I think Obama is very intelligent and educated. I think Obama is very attractive. I like a lot of the ideas he has. I just cannot skirt around the issue of those he has associated with and the church he attended for 20 YEARS! I find it hard to believe he is not racist against me, a plain old white citizen. I think it doesn't matter that I have friends of all races, and that I love someone of another race. All that matters to his minister is that I am white and that makes him hate me, and if Obama didn't also hate me, and those like me, then why did he continue to attend that church and listen to the acid spewing from his minister's mouth for 20 years?   While I think it is horrible that our ancestors forced African's into slavery and treated them horribly, I didn't do it! I would never do it!  I love everyone! Why do I have to be a victim of prejudice now, just because I am white?  Why can't prejudice not exist either way?
    The majority of the people didn't vote him in because of his polcies
    They voted him in because he's black. Plain and simple.

    BTW - I sitting here with a nice hot cup of coffee trying to warm up these icy toes of mine. Been in reality a long time. You should come join us.
    The American people didn't listen to the anti Obama sentiments sm
    That Ayers crapola is not applicable. All that bashing of Obama is over SOUR GRAPES BABY!!! WE WON, YES WE CAN, YES WE DID

    Conservatives believe Bush didn’t act in time because God told him to get rid of poor black people

    on welfare and old people on Social Security because they cost taxpayers too much money.


    A radio talk show host just said that…and I agree. They can’t admit that Bush has shown us all how he will refuse to protect Americans in a national emergency, even though he used that as a campaign promise, and that Bush doesn’t even have to care any more since he can’t be President again. I hope they can live with their collective conscience. That is if they have one. I’m starting to believe they don’t.


    You attacked me
    don't put on the who me? me innocent face either.  You always attack and are at the very least condescending.  You wished me dead when you asked me to drink N.O. water....don't play all innocent, because it's there for all to see. 
    You were never attacked
    you are the attacker gt.  You  have no spine.  You are a sick individual.
    Yes, I have attacked you.

    The mean comments I made were how I genuinely felt, though.  I sincerely feel there are mental issues that play into some of the postings I see.  And I did feel as though someone had ------ on me at one point.  That is how it felt, honestly.  And I won't go into it beyond that. 


    That said, just because I felt desecrated and that there were mental issues affecting some people's judgment doesn't mean I had to make fun or allude to these conclusions.  That was in poor taste. 


    We will most likely be attacked again...
    it is just a matter of time. Someone will have to test the new administration to see what they will do. I predict they will fold and implode. Not looking forward to it but the people have spoken. All we can do is sit back and watch and wait.
    Because we have not been attacked since!
    nm
    Before I get attacked...
    it is called Special Order 40.
    No, we would have been attacked just the same.
    However, as we all would have been in a coma from listing to Algore's speeches, we just would not have known it.  Mass anesthesia.
    They attacked him

    because he said Barbara came up to him when he in fact went up to her.  OMG!  Down with Beck.  He should be hung at high noon. 


    Seriously....aren't there more important issues than this crap?


    As for his answer when they asked him if he checked his facts out and he said no, he was answering the question of whether he was a journalist and he said no he wasn't....he is a commentator.  All those women talk at once and he was still answering one question when Barbara asked him another. 


    That show is so pointless to watch.  It has like one conservative person on the whole thing and the rest of liberal loons who attack all who lean conservative.  I really don't know how Elisabeth Hasselbeck...or whatever her name is.....stands to be on that show. 


    You were not being attacked, you ideas are
    You don't debate, you scream and holler and fling insults and names. 
    She most absolutely was not attacked.
    And notice that while I never once denigrated you, nor questioned your abilities, your post to me was one long rant.  I think that speaks for itself.  Have a nice evening yourself.
    Evacuees attacked

    I thought Rush might have learned something from his own bad judgments but I guess I was wrong. I actually felt sorry for him for awhile...I would not wish his situation on anyone. But it seems he is back to his Homeless Olympics-type comments - always blame whoever is on the other side of the fence. Now I know where all this rhetoric is coming from...straight from the mouths of the radio right reich.


    Right-Wing Attacks American Evacuees: ‘Ingrates,’ ‘Whining,’ ‘Spoiled-Rotten Little Children’


    The Bush administration’s evacuation of Americans in Lebanon has been disorganized and lagged behind the efforts of other countries. As of yesterday, only a few thousand had been able to evacuate, and they departed “two days after the first Europeans left on ships.” Denmark, for example, “evacuated more than 4,000 of its citizens” by Thursday.


    Conservatives have reacted to this incompetence by attacking the evacuees:


    Rush Limbaugh, 7/19:



    Even in the eyes of our ingrate, spoiled-rotten little children, brat-type ingrate citizens in Beirut, it’s our fault. (Crying.) “It’s a war zone. It’s a war! How do I get out? (crying) We’re having to shield ourselves from the sun in cardboard.” (sobbing) That’s embarrassing.


    Fox anchor Neil Cavuto, 7/20:



    The media is playing up a lot of whining, complaining Americans in this country who said there’s been no warning, no communication.


    TownHall.com columnist Mike Gallagher, 7/21:



    Amazingly, we’re not even going to charge these ungrateful evacuees for the free trip home. … Their sense of outrage and entitlement is slowly but surely becoming the American way. And it’s positively disgusting.


    Fox anchor Steve Doocy, 7/19:



    Shockingly, after they’ve been plucked out of Beirut, a lot of them are whining and complaining that, you know what, I had to sleep on the concrete and they didn’t have any food for me to eat.


    Watch Fox & Friends (a Fox correspondent in Cyprus disputes Doocy’s account, describing the evacuation conditions as “really chaotic”):


    At least we haven't been attacked
    again on our soil....if tricky Billy Clinton did HIS job while in office, Bin Laden would have been taken care of and 9/11 would have never happened.  Happy anniversary to you.  Bush is far from perfect but we have been safe at home.
    Fringe or not, he'll get attacked for it...
    He is pro-life and doesn't condone prostitution, but he'll take contribution money from them? Huh....seems that he is doing now exactly what he said he wouldn't which was taking contributions from special interest groups.

    And he aligned himself with Tucker.

    I believe he just put the noose around his own neck. :o)
    Sam does discuss issues and gets attacked for it.
    nm
    Hey, it is the dems who attacked her from day one, old-timer...
    certainly not republicans or independents, and the continue it on this board to this day. If you want the conversation to shift to Obama, leave Palin alone. Just as you guys will defend him, those of us who believe she is a great addition to the ticket will defend her. The Dems have kept her in the news since she was announced, and I am sure she would rather she had not been attacked in such a hateful and personal matter that had nothing to do with the position...but it happened. They hammered her experience, which in turn shined the spotlight on Obama's lack of experience, and hammered on that, even when he asked his minions to stop. They didn't stop. Then they hammered for her to do an interview. She did, and McCain's numbers continue to do well and he has started drawing very close to Obama in many of the swing states. I don't blame Obama for wanting the spotlight off of her. Don't blame him one bit.
    Attacked campaign worker

    She says she was kicked, beaten, punched and then thrown to the ground.  The attacker could have been over her, upside down, when he did the carving.... just a thought to those who doubt the "backwards B."


    my guess is we wouldn't have been attacked at all NM
    speculation as is your guess.
    Better hope we aren't attacked....this man is a sellout
    //
    Palin was unfairly personally attacked by the really
    nm
    N. Korea Threatens to Hurt US if Attacked

    This guy is really nuts! Just because he has 1M foot soldiers, he thinks he can do what he wants.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528057,00.html


    you go shelly!
    All the polls still favor Obama.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

    Seems like the last holdouts are on this very board.
    Shelly,
    You are not alone with your thoughts... my friends and I have discussed this many times and basically feel the way you do.
    Shelly, I am not sure but...
    I think it is already a mandate that if a hospital receives government reimbursements (Medicare, Medicaid) then they are required to do those procedures now.
    Right there with ya Shelly! nm
    x
    oh wow, shelly...........sm
    and you said you live in Ohio??? Gosh, I sure hope your vote did count. Is there someone you could call to find out before it is too late?
    Hi Shelly....sm
    Very good post. I too, am quite concerned, at how eerily similar things are going between these two.


    One day, the so-called transparency will not be there, and we will wake up a changed nation.


    I do not like the path of change I see unfolding. In just seven short days, he is starting to show who he really is.


    I have a friend who lives in Japan. The news they get is ALL positive about Obama, and how he is strong leader and going to change the world. The world. The EU thinks he is the answer to their economic woes. The young person who cuts his hair, wishes Japan had such a wonderful leader.

    Well, I sent him an e-mail back with some of the things that they DON'T see in the news over there, and my friend was quite surprised. Propaganda is alive and well in the world, at least in Japan. They believe only the rosy future that the U.S. and the world has, now that Obama is the next president.


    I get it, Shelly! You are so right.
    nm
    Truth hurts, don't it? Hey, whenever attacked, call someone a liar.
    Sez a lot about you. 
    Murtha Attacked by the Right for Quote Falsely Attributed to Him.

    Imagine that.  I'm shocked. 


    Murtha Attacked by the Right For Quote Falsely Attributed to Him


    UPDATE: Multiple ThinkProgress readers report that Gail Bulfin of the Sun-Sentinel admits the paper’s report was inaccurate and says a correction will be printed tomorrow.


    The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported on Sunday that Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) had claimed that the United States is the greatest threat to peace in the world:



    American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.


    Though the Sun-Sentinel never provided a direct quote of Murtha, the story was featured on the Drudge Report and Murtha immediately came under attack from conservative pundits:



    Bill O’Reilly, Fox News, 6/26:


    Murtha has lost all perspective and did months ago, but his message is firmly entrenched in America’s far-left precincts. … [T]hat kind of extreme thinking, based on little evidence, by the way, is putting all Americans in danger.


    Tucker Carlson, MSNBC, 6/26:


    What is really going on here, and you know it as well as I, is that Jack Murtha has been intoxicated by the amount of publicity that he has gotten from his anti-war crusade, and he has become progressively more unreasonable, progressively more left-wing as the days go on, and he is in the thrall of people who, I think, have hostility towards the United States.


    Newt Gingrich, Fox News, 6/26:


    For an American congressman to say that is beyond any acceptable behavior, and I would hope the Congress would move to censure him.


    One problem: Murtha apparently never said anything of the sort. What he did was cite a Pew poll released two weeks ago showing that people around the world, including in closely-allied countries like Great Britain, believe the U.S. is the greatest threat to peace.


    A statement released by Murtha’s office today quotes an email from Melissa Sanchez of the Miami Herald, who also attended the speech, saying of the purported Murtha “quote”: “That was in reference to international polls. It was not so much his own conjecture, but a conclusion drawn from polls in various countries.” ThinkProgress confirmed with Murtha’s office that the email accurately reflects the views of reporters at the Miami Herald.


    Email the Sun-Sentinel’s reader liason Gail Bulfin — gbulfin@sun-sentinel.com — and ask that the paper print a retraction. See update above.



     


    Perhaps he was afraid of being attacked for mixing politics and religion
    I don't think it was anything to get uup in arms about - but of course people get up in arms about EVERYTHING this man does - even to having pizza in the White House.

    People need to quit grasping at straws and focus on important issues!
    You are absolutely right, Shelly. s/m

    Many churches want to take away the right to choose.  I'm glad you're not one of them.  I don't think the government has any business messing in people's private life to begin with.  Abortion shouldn't be an issue anyhow.  There are too many forms of birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.  I think it is just another devisive issue.


    I don't believe there is such a thing as a moral politician.  Whether people are believers or not, the world would be a better place if people used the Bible as a rule book for life.  Who could really argue with the rightness of Jesus' teaching, whether or not they profess to being "Christian" or atheist for that matter.


    That is ridiculous, shelly!
    I cannot believe you are so easily swayed by right-wing propaganda!
    Shelly: Please vote. You don't have
    to choose in every single category, but there are state and local levels that also matter, and don't forget those pesky propositions referable to your local tax base and bond issues. If you feel uncomfortable about choosing a particular candidate or not informed enough to choose,then you can skip that one.
    Shelly - there are other choices
    We've still got over a week til the election. There is a lot you can read up on, and you never know what's going to happen in whatever time is left. I'm not going to say who you should vote for. That is an individual decision you should make. Also note that if you feel very strongly against both candidates there are other choices. Constitutional, Independent, Green party, etc. IMHO, if you want to look on a lighter side of it, just realize that your vote alone if you were to vote for either of them would not be the one that breaks the tie and wins a victory for them, but if you feel very strongly to vote there are other choices. At least you'll feel like you'll have contributed in the voting process but not chosen someone you don't feel strongly against.
    Shelly, you're not alone -- sm

    I have been discussing this very situation with my husband and close friends.  I also am Christian (probably not as faithful as I should be).  I supported him in the beginning, up until as recently as a month ago.  The more I talked with my friends and read about the prophecies, the more I feared that he is the one the Bible speaks of in Revelations (and not as the messiah).  So many of the prophecies seem to be fulfilled, and yet, these same prophecies could have easily been seen to be fulfilled years ago. 


    I'm more curious as to what your father's thoughts are on these subjects (from a religious perspective).  As for me, I need to be able to sleep at night, and if that means voting for McCain, then so be it.  I know that when the true Messiah does return on that white horse, I'm going with him.  If my vote is borne out of fear, at least it won't be fear of where I'll end up.


    shelly -- don't let these posters

    discourage you.  Keep spreading the word.  As a previous O supporter, I knew that he was pro-choice.  I did not, however, know to what extreme.  I simply thought he chose to support Roe v. Wade, as many do.  Had it not been for this board, I never would have researched and found out about the FOCA.  There are people on this board who can still be won over.  Keep on "harping"!!!


    The people who are trying to keep religion out of politics are the same ones trying to keep it out of our schools, our money, and ultimately our homes. 


    for Shelly: What's wrong with you...
    Are you a STALKER?
    What for did you pot such a HUGE picture of O's face and eye?
    You are scary!
    Give it up and do some MTing, but with concentration.
    Shelly, just because I tried to help you with spelling, there is
    you are very sensitive and I'm sure it is because you are corrected a lot in your job
    Don't sweat it Shelly...(sm)
    That's just some fool running around trying to start crap.  They even called me a racist---and I'm probably the most liberal poster on this board...LOL.  They'll get tired sooner or later.
    for shelly: I can only go with what is entered
    in posted by:.......
    I am with you, Shelly. Also, it seems our nation is
    nm
    Honestly, Shelly.
    You and I almost never see eye to eye on issues (except I agree 100% with your above comment about filibuster) and sometimes the content of sources you post drive me up a wall, but I've been reading your posts long enough to know that you do not typically get nasty and personal and, for the most part, you try to keep yourself out of the attack mode. At least you do a better job of than than I do.

    I guess I'm just feeling old, tired, scared and a little sad. Old enough to remember when the country was not so divided. Tired of feeling like I have to be on the defensive all the time and not being able to talk issues instead of constantly having to wade through a mine field of slams and insults when expressing an opposing view. Scared of getting back on the job market after 6 months of unemployment. Sad because I'm missing the good ole days, which I know deep down in my soul will never be coming back.

    I forgot frustrated. Frustrated that I find myself full of sarcasm and anger, sometimes for reasons I cannot even understand myself. I've been active in politics since 1966. More than anything, I love a good healthy debate aimed at exchanging differing points of view and oriented toward common ground and goal-setting, destined toward workable solutions. I used to know how to do that and do it well. Now I'm not so sure I will ever regain that part of myself and I really, really miss that one simple pleasure. Any suggestions?
    Shelly, what a beautiful answer! sm
    It shows you have had time to come to conclusions, not just answering off the cuff like me. Good for you!
    It is scary Shelly. And sad. I don't know what is going to happen either sm
    All we can do is pray. I had no idea it had gotten that bad even in the military.