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Where did you get your debating skills? On the south side of Chicago in some street gang? Because if you did, it shows.

In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks. Yet, that's all you people know how to do. You can't stay on the issue. You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years. In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity.

As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you. Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers). If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker. You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere. It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn.

As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found. Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time. Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums. Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.

The mean comments I made were how I genuinely felt, though. I sincerely feel there are mental issues that play into some of the postings I see. And I did feel as though someone had ------ on me at one point. That is how it felt, honestly. And I won't go into it beyond that.

That said, just because I felt desecrated and that there were mental issues affecting some people's judgment doesn't mean I had to make fun or allude to these conclusions. That was in poor taste.

because he said Barbara came up to him when he in fact went up to her. OMG! Down with Beck. He should be hung at high noon.

As for his answer when they asked him if he checked his facts out and he said no, he was answering the question of whether he was a journalist and he said no he wasn't....he is a commentator. All those women talk at once and he was still answering one question when Barbara asked him another.

That show is so pointless to watch. It has like one conservative person on the whole thing and the rest of liberal loons who attack all who lean conservative. I really don't know how Elisabeth Hasselbeck...or whatever her name is.....stands to be on that show.

I thought Rush might have learned something from his own bad judgments but I guess I was wrong. I actually felt sorry for him for awhile...I would not wish his situation on anyone. But it seems he is back to his Homeless Olympics-type comments - always blame whoever is on the other side of the fence. Now I know where all this rhetoric is coming from...straight from the mouths of the radio right reich.

Right-Wing Attacks American Evacuees: �Ingrates,� �Whining,� �Spoiled-Rotten Little Children�

The Bush administration�s evacuation of Americans in Lebanon has been disorganized and lagged behind the efforts of other countries. As of yesterday, only a few thousand had been able to evacuate, and they departed �two days after the first Europeans left on ships.� Denmark, for example, �evacuated more than 4,000 of its citizens� by Thursday.

Watch Fox & Friends (a Fox correspondent in Cyprus disputes Doocy�s account, describing the evacuation conditions as �really chaotic�):

She says she was kicked, beaten, punched and then thrown to the ground. The attacker could have been over her, upside down, when he did the carving.... just a thought to those who doubt the "backwards B."

they attacked her first, and then she tried to explain the first post in simple English.

This is the most I have posted on this board in the last 2 months but I just can't take all attacks against people just because they voted for the pubs. I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again today, STOP THE BASHING. IT DOESN'T GET YOU ANYWHERE. All it causes is hate.

P.S. Mrs. M is the one of the worse on here. I have never seen her post before today or yesterday (didn't look at the dates). I think she's just trying to stir the pot.

This guy is really nuts! Just because he has 1M foot soldiers, he thinks he can do what he wants.

Imagine that. I'm shocked.

Murtha Attacked by the Right For Quote Falsely Attributed to Him

UPDATE: Multiple ThinkProgress readers report that Gail Bulfin of the Sun-Sentinel admits the paper�s report was inaccurate and says a correction will be printed tomorrow.

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported on Sunday that Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) had claimed that the United States is the greatest threat to peace in the world:

American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

Though the Sun-Sentinel never provided a direct quote of Murtha, the story was featured on the Drudge Report and Murtha immediately came under attack from conservative pundits:

Bill O�Reilly, Fox News, 6/26:

Murtha has lost all perspective and did months ago, but his message is firmly entrenched in America�s far-left precincts. � [T]hat kind of extreme thinking, based on little evidence, by the way, is putting all Americans in danger.

Tucker Carlson, MSNBC, 6/26:

What is really going on here, and you know it as well as I, is that Jack Murtha has been intoxicated by the amount of publicity that he has gotten from his anti-war crusade, and he has become progressively more unreasonable, progressively more left-wing as the days go on, and he is in the thrall of people who, I think, have hostility towards the United States.

Newt Gingrich, Fox News, 6/26:

For an American congressman to say that is beyond any acceptable behavior, and I would hope the Congress would move to censure him.

One problem: Murtha apparently never said anything of the sort. What he did was cite a Pew poll released two weeks ago showing that people around the world, including in closely-allied countries like Great Britain, believe the U.S. is the greatest threat to peace.

A statement released by Murtha�s office today quotes an email from Melissa Sanchez of the Miami Herald, who also attended the speech, saying of the purported Murtha �quote�: �That was in reference to international polls. It was not so much his own conjecture, but a conclusion drawn from polls in various countries.� ThinkProgress confirmed with Murtha�s office that the email accurately reflects the views of reporters at the Miami Herald.

~~Email the Sun-Sentinel�s reader liason Gail Bulfin � gbulfin@sun-sentinel.com � and ask that the paper print a retraction.~~ See update above.

In every place I go where the pledge is recited ballgames mostly when we got to the words under God it's amplified UNDER GOD!!! That's what I intend on doing even if it becomes illegal. I don't care if they outlaw the word God period I'll shout it from the mountaintops. First of all to glorify my God, and second of all to irritate those who think it's a curse word.

Go ahead sue me...hang me...chop my head off. The best is yet to come for me anyway.

the McCain campaing has set Palin up to be the attacker of Obama's character and let McCain talk about what they will do if they are elected.

As for Palin lying, I do believe that Obama has not been 100% truthful with things brought out about him. He has changed his story several times on different associations and issues and that makes me not trust him.

I do find it interesting that a lot of times what an Obama supporter can say about Palin....a McCain supporter can say about Obama. LOL! Kind of makes you wonder what the heck all of us are thinking really.

One thing that holds true for me in the case of Sarah Palin is that she cut spending in her state. I truly do believe that for the sake our country....we need to cut back on the government pending and this just reinforces my trust in McCain and Palin to do just that. Obama...on the other hand....I believe will not cut back on spending as he has endorsed more pork in his short term in senate than McCain has his entire career.....and that to me says a lot. And that has nothing to do with him being a POW and having the scars to prove it. LOL!

I could not care less so long as they don't mess around with the constitution. I do think, however, that there is much ado about nothing. As for the alleged tax breaks...when my husband and I married we asked my CPA about tax ramifications. He said we would be better off to marry. When we filed our first joint return, the same CPA said he didn't realize how much our income was and that in fact, marrying was the worst thing we could do tax-wise. So if gays/lesbians want to marry for tax purposes, they had better take a good hard look at where the marriage will put them.

I don't know that there's anything legal/illegal about it but I expect that in the case of serious illness or injury a significant other would not be kept from the bedside.

My husband and I used an attorney to draw up papers (forget what they are called) that directs everything that could possibly be foreseen and the cost was something like $350. That would work just as well for gays/lesbians I would think.

We have a gay couple in our community, also biracial. They moved here from another state. Both wear wedding rings, I have no idea what it symbolizes, haven't asked. One is rather elderly and has relatives here but they accept the significant other and everyone just goes about their business.

Gay/lesbian relations are not new, it goes all the way back to biblical times. I don't lean in that direction myself so I do not know anything about it, whether it is a choice or people are born with that bend. I just have a hard time with God saying that it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man as with a woman and then that He would turn around and cause people to be born with this kind of sexual orientation. That being said, let them do what they will, it is between them and God. Like religion and politics, they don't need to try to shove it down the throats of the majority who are heterosexual.

that Jesse Jackson is a detriment to the black community. Surely there has to be someone better to represent and stand up for the black community. If a white person made the general comments that Jesse Jackson does......the black community would scream racism. His own son spoke negatively about his father and his comment.

I personally don't feel that there will ever be equality between the races because people are constantly wanting to point the finger at the other race. Do I want equality....yes...of course I do. I have many black friends who are great people that I care about. But until we stop pointing the finger at the other race, it won't stop. Prejudice and racism is on both sides. It isn't just the white folks or the black people.....it is on both sides and until people stop and realize that and learn to forgive and forget and be accepting.......it won't change.

As for Bill Cosby, I loved watching the Bill Cosby Show when I was younger, but the more I learn about Bill......the more I think he is a huge bigot.

failure in our government is a failure on both sides. This isn't strictly dems, although dems control the congress, and this isn't strictly reps even though the pres is a rep. I think they should all stop pointing fingers as what is done is done and find a solution that will benefit the tax payers and not line the crooks' pockets with money anymore than they already are.

As for McCain....no matter what....at least he had the balls to say....HEY...we have a problem here. That is more than other politicians have done who benefited from FMFM money.

pub or dem, who benefited from this should be the ones financially responsible to repair it. But that isn't going to happen and I'm sick of hearing about who's responsible for it. What about the homeowners who applied for these mortgages that they knew they couldn't afford? I hold them responsible. What about the banks who gave them the loan, knowing they could never repay it, but didn't care because they were just going to sell it? I hold them responsible. What about the CEOs who made millions on their severenace packages when they walked away from these failing companies? I hold them responsible. I don't care what party they are affiliated with. But the fact is, no one person is going to be held accountable. As a whole, the taxpayers will be made to be responsible.

You talk a good game and some of what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, you have to read through all the pub/dem cr@p to really get to what you're saying. Are you going to try to tell me that not 1 single pub had anything to do with any of this? That it all rests on the individual dems? Come on -- that's a load of bull and you know it.

Madeline Halfbright was Clinton's Sec. of State. Don't even get me started on her.

No matter what, I give nobody a free pass just by the R behind his/her name. Look at Olympia Snow & Susan Collins! Talk about embarrassments!