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I think it won't necessarily be a matter

Posted By: A.Nonymous on 2009-04-19
In Reply to: Hopefully, moderates in both parties will begin to assert themselves. - TechSupport

of fooling us.  The question may be:  Will he manage to 'spread the wealth' to a greater number of people than he's ripped off? 


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That is not necessarily so...
Because I would vote for Clinton before I vote for McCain, but for me it is McCain over Obama. So, my advice is to vote for the person you think would do the best job or the less of the evils, not to just get your party in. I have to say that I never, ever, ever thought I would say this and I just did and I mean it too! I think Obama is even more despicable than McCain, if that is possible. They are almost equal in my estimation. Just listen to his schpiel and then note that he is going to DO all these things, but never states HOW and that may of his campaign "promises" seem to be racist. Clinton seems the least racist when comparing the two after I read all the information available. Maybe we could all just write in the candidate of our choice and if were an organized effort it could work. It is bleak.
Not necessarily....lol. nm
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I am not necessarily defending them.
I am trying to make people have a broader view of them.  Gadfly seemed to be headed in that direction, but, of course, that was too much for you to bear. One mind, I know the drill.  Hateful?  Not at all.  Truth, gt. It's called truth.  It's my truth and I am sticking to it.  More might be truthful with you if they weren't afraid of getting their leg chewed off to the knee.  You won't argue with me, because you can't.  You don't operate on logic, you operate on emotion.  Kill the messenger was invented as a slogan exactly for people like you.  If you move outside your comfort zone, you attack the messenger, cut them off at the knees, with an airy 'this just isn't worth discussing' or some such.  Surely, I am not the first to have pointed this out to you.  I won't be the last either.  I have had my fill.  My expectations were far too high on finding this board.  I will move on along, before you revoke my privileges.  As far as racism, I posted many excellent examples of it up at the top of the board, not that you would read it. I can imagine that you are the type who never reads posts, only the headings, or at the very least a line or two, and then just responds out of sheer emotion.  One can do that on chat boards.  How you get away with it in life,  I have an idea.  I won't say it here though, lest you endanger yourself with a stroke at hearing the truth. 
On ALL sides--does not necessarily mean sm
this fiasco is partisan--only that the current administration (GOP) allowed all entities to run amok. It's the financial world versus the common man, now vice versa. As one pundit said tonight, The public shouldn't have to pick up the broken chairs when they weren't invited to the party.



not necessarily. I don't know about other states, but...
here in Michigan they want to allow voting online, not needing to actually be "absent" to get an absentee ballot, and no ID needed. And they were also tossing around early voting like Ohio did. If this is all allowed like the Dems want, then all the "dead dems" in Cook County will be moving to Michigan to vote, and then move back to Chicago.

What is scary about all these "proposals" is that you have the opportunity for out and out voter fraud the likes of which will make Cook County politics look like a Sunday school picnic. Especially if they decide to do this in all the states. JMO though.
I'm not necessarily focusing on that .....
Yes, his remarks are very telling about his feelings toward Obama BUT his comments about Obama waaaay before all this, during the primaries, were extremely telling and that is what makes this little relationship very interesting. I can guarantee you Obama did not come to the decision of Biden on his own.

The powers that be behind him know Obama can't handle foreign affairs or worse yet, another attack on this country.


I wouldn't necessarily believe
the polls they are reporting anyway, all over the board, and I believe they are manipulating the whole election.
I didn't necessarily mean you would flame me....sm
but I have on my flame-proof suit because I am sure that others will. LOL

On a more serious note, I am watching Israel....have been for some time. (I'm also checking out the clouds lately, ;o) ). There are several different groups of Jews who are working toward the rebuilding of the temple. Once that first stone is set in place, it should go up quickly.....and so should we.
Not necessarily....enough Repub senators ....
remain so that the democrats don't have a filibuster-proof majority. So if the repubs grow a backbone and stand up...the dems will be somewhat limited in what they can do. We shall see how it all turns out. But yeah...the potential for a major hosing will still exist.
Not necessarily cult worship

I don't know about cult worship, but I do know I have several friends who are African American who are over the moon. Why?   Because for the first time in history someone who looks like they do really can do anything and be anything they want to be.


 


not necessarily point and click -
My hospital already has computerized medical records. There is no point and click involved at all. All doctors still dictate and we still have a full transcription department. There is just not any paper generated for charts - it is all electronic. The doctors can access the patient's records from wherever they may be when they need them as long as they have a computer and a password.
You don't support it, but you don't necessarily condemn it either
If there are homosexuals being killed, it is not in this country. You just don't hear about it and the media would have a hey day with something like that. No, I don't believe it, just because you say it's happening. Proof please. I have every right to come across any way I please. Stop telling me I have no "right" to say, feel, think the way I do. I have no idea how you feel about your son or even how you handle it, so I wouldn't even begin to tell you what's going on in your life. But this is the way I feel. No, I wouldn't disown my children. However, I did do the groundwork when they were small. They knew it was wrong. They knew it would not be accepted by me or their father and maybe they had enough respect for us to do the right thing. I don't know. I do know that most kids are not taught that it's wrong, regardless of what society tells us. I do know that some kids do this to get back at their parents for different reasons. All sins can be forgiven. This is one sin that can kill you before you have a chance to be forgiven. I loved my kids enough to make sure they understood it was not only wrong, but could lead to their deaths at an earlier age. Not just HIV, AIDS but anal cancer, hepatitis C and a score of other terrible diseases. I didn't want that for for my sons. I'm not a hippocrit. But you are judgemental.
Not necessarily any specific speech

that changed the trend in Europe, but what those countries see happening in the US the last 6 months. 


For decades, whenever there was trouble anywhere in the world, a natural disaster, an epidemic, an out-of-control dictator, a genocide, they could always count on the US to send money (more than any other nation), materiel and personnel to bail them out and fix the problem.  Now the rest of the world sees our government bankrupting itself (Obama's mouth writing checks his wallet can't cover) and they must realize that they're going to be pretty much on their own from here on out.  They have to get ready to take care of themselves, and rein in their own out-of-control governments. 


Nope, not any specific speech he gave, but I think everyone in the EU must see the handwriting on the wall.  They are starting to take measures to protect themselves.   About time.  It's just ironic that we are not moving into the place they are abandoning. 


Remember, immaturity is not necessarily
And this is a person posting on an MT board, who apparently wants to pass for an MT.  Anyone buying that?
That's not necessarily true. You've been able to pick up the slack sm
for them very nicely if I may say so myself.
well, i would call it dark but not necessarily meaningless
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What's the matter?
Hit a nerve? Did I offend? Good.
What's the matter? No one is
week.....Camelot is coming apart!  Actually, glad to see the pubs are big enough not to be saying *told you so.*  Does all the questions about past associations make more sense now?  It just keeps getting deeper and deeper and dirtier and dirtier.  But, of course, if you have drank enough of the Obama kool-aid all of this too shall be whisked away.  I know, I know, let's just give him time.  He's going to make things better, yes he can!
What's the matter?
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It won't matter which one. sm
Both are beholden to special interests and the ruling class. A lot of people are oblivious to it, but there is a ruling class. The candidate I supported did confirm this, and so do a few of the candidates running on the third party tickets. Ever wonder why things never change and get worse, this is why.

There is a diary by a blogger on Daily Kos that explains it very well. It is very informative and worth the read.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641


what does that matter?

My nieces and nephews are raised by their white mothers... my grandson is being raised by a white mother and a white grandmother and a white great-grandmother, my stepchildren are being raised by their white mothers - that does not change the situation of how the world views these kids...  and it does not change how they view themselves.  Every one of the mixed kids in my family has a different answer for whether they are white, black, or biracial, and their answer does not necessarily go along with the color of their own skin.


I also think that being raised by a "white" grandmother was part of Obama's problem.  She was an older generation, still scared of black people, and she was teaching Obama to be "white" and when he got older he realized that he was not "white".  Because he looks like a black man, he obviously feels what a black man feels because he is treated in the world as a black man.


Yes, mixed children are beautiful - but they are "different" than us in that they are neither white or black and they are treated differently for that reason.  I hope that changes before my grandchildren get older, but so far, they are still expected to conform to being white or being black...


If a mixed child acts white, he is accepted by the white kids and taunted by the black kids, if he acts black, he is taunted by the white kids and accepted by the black kids.  The mixed children have to be taught from birth that they are a mixture of 2 heritages and to embrace both of them; but at this point, they still choose one or the other.


you can think all you want.....it just won't matter with him
!!
It does not matter! It is just that a man has sex with
a woman and a woman has sex with a man.
This is it! And this is right and normal !
Anything else isn't.

How can the government legalize it when it is morally wrong.

Again: I wished Miss California had won.



Would it matter?
Would it really change your mind? Or would you dismiss it away?

Have you ever read the Bible from start to finish with an open mind? Or even just the book of John if you don't want to devote that much time to it.

If you really want proof, try that. Seriously.
No matter how you try to say it, it's still
Since you're so concerned about teaching children right from wrong, it would be perfectly acceptable and should always be taught to children to never EVER call names, make fun of, or bully anyone! There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to even bring up the word 'homosexual' now is there?

If you teach a child not to bully or pick at anyone then you are teaching tolerance aren't you..... without even bringing up the word.

How hard is that to understand!?
What do you mean it does not matter?
Of course it matters. There isn't a draft registration if the intent isn't to SOME DAY have a draft!! Otherwise, what's the point in it? Use your head! It's to have a pool of young males to pull into govt wars!!!!

Just because we at this moment have a volunteer armed forces doesn't mean it will HAVE to stay that way.....

it can change on a whim!
What the heck does it matter to you
what happens on the conservative board.  Like most liberals you feel an innate desire to police everything everywhere as you and your uppity ilk are a lot better than everyone else...You have a board, stay on it, and have your nice little liberal tea parties over here.  I for one couldn't give a rat's ass what you think about the conservative board...you elitist control freaks...now can you TAKE that!
It's a matter of priorities.

Some people think taking people's lives in Iraq is more important than saving lives in America.  It's nothing new with this administration. 


I believe every single person in this country is going to be negatively affected by this disaster, while Bush sits by and watches and just flashes that moronic grin of his, and Cheney and his Halliburton buddies get richer and richer.  Don't look for his followers to wake up and see this idiot administration for what it is.  Instead, look for them to become frustrated because their own lives will be falling apart, and look for the anger, hatred and rage on their part to increase.  Look at this board.  It's happening already, and it's only going to get worse.  Just wait. 


Wussies? Why should it matter if someone is

a wussy or not on a political message board?  Is that your way of admitting that you're a bully?


It's a real shame that your mother didn't take the time to teach you how to treat people, didn't take the time to teach you manners.  She let a vicious animal loose on society, and that's really sad....for society.


It wouldn't matter what we said.
Their reaction would be the same.  I suppose I could have raged against a thousand perceived wrongs, assumed that everyone knew my history, and called a poster who dared to question -what makes you think we haven't- as some kind of insensitive heartless slam.  The real truth is much deeper and darker than that.  I am not quite sure why people choose to tell their deepest darkest secrets on chat boards.  Is it so that later on, someone might forget something they never knew, in order to attack that person with out of control fury, as some on this board are wont to do.  Of course, my sympathy goes out ot anyone who loses a loved one NO MATTER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY DIED.  But perhaps my sympathy should be more reserved for those who feel the need to constantly attack, denigrate, misinterpret (deliberately?), hound, and judge those who challenge an ideal.  Having said that, I find some on here who post disturbed.  Merry Christmas to all.  My last post here.  If anyone cares to respond, I will not see it. 
That's a matter of opinion.

No a matter of opinion is
the fact that you don't like the president, but overly demonizing him and lumping him in with an evil person bent on destroying Israel and the United States is blatant over dramatization.
It doesn't matter when. sm
The bill is about when and not now, meaning NOW, prisoners taken in war are dealt with by us.  The bill is about when Iraq becomes a full democracy and has nothing to do with who cares most about the soldiers.  This just caught my eye on the menu because it is wrong headed. And, if it were true, the media would be headlining it.  They aren't. 
Here is the crux of the matter.

Embryonic stem cell research has been misrepresented.  To the gullible public, who will believe ads like the one Michael J. Fox put out there, ESC has become the panacea and cure-all for all time.  But it just isn't true. This quote from the article you posted, Brunson, is very important.


Reckless Hype and Overselling
Most of the campaign’s other ads have focused on “cures.” One shows a doctor saying that far from endangering women stem-cell research “could lead to cures for diseases that concern women like ovarian cancer.” Presumably the stem-cell treatment in question is bone marrow transplantation, an adult stem-cell technique widely in use for decades, and one in no way threatened by any legal barriers or related to embryonic stem cells or cloning. Another ad shows a pediatrician saying stem cells could help his patients, but offering no details. Another shows an Alzheimer’s researcher saying “stem cell research offers the promise of cures” for “so many devastating diseases like Alzheimer’s disease,” but offers no evidence to counter the near consensus in the field that this simply is not so. Many of these disingenuous ads repeat the claim that the initiative would ban human cloning, and none of the ads mention that all stem-cell research is already legal in Missouri and there are no prospects for that changing, or that the referendum would not support any new research.


******


We simply must educate ourselves and maybe, in the end, examine what our belief system is about life.  Morally and ethically I believe ESC research to be wrong. It will be the crowning touch down the long downward spiral we started on when we legalized abortion. 


I will end with a quote from President Bush from the same speech I referenced in another post, where he was speaking to parents of adopted children. 


(quote)The children here today remind us that there is no such thing as a spare embryo. Every embryo is unique and genetically complete, like every other human being. And each of us started out our life this way. These lives are not raw material to be exploited, but gifts. And I commend each of the families here today for accepting the gift of these children and offering them the gift of your love.(unquote)


In the end, it comes down to respecting life and God.  The decision lies with each of us.  I choose life.


It does not matter who votes for it or against it....
it is morally wrong. Because it is legal does not make it right. While I will obey the law of the land, as my faith teaches me to do, I will continue to speak out against a procedure that is murder, no matter who chooses it. See link if you do not believe that life begins at conception. View that and tell me that abortion is not killing a living baby and then defend it as right because someone chooses it. That choice is choosing to kill a child. The one portion of this. If you feel that a woman needs a choice of whether or not to kill a baby, so be it, that is your right and I respect your right to say it. I do not and will continue to speak against it, and I hope that you believe it is my right to do that as well. Some of us must speak for the most innocent who cannot speak for themselves.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=76c82299-9a7a-4656-8ec4-0f6fc1fd6ae0&f=06/64&fg=copy
It's a matter of opinion.

You were lying about your information being non-partisan.


As far as Plame being covert or not before the "leak" -- that is a matter of opinion.  Please do not state it as unassailable fact that was already outed.  Because something is listed as fact in a far right-wing publication does not make it true.  That's common sense lesson #1 for today....just as I would say because Michael Moore states something as fact also does not make it so. 


Like I said, no matter how you try to twist it,
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doesn't matter to me
I think my candidate could hold his own against either one of those, but everyone has to protect "poor Sarah." Frankly, I don't want a leader that has to be handled with kid gloves. Geez.
Doesn't matter. I will NOT be in ANY way...
responsible for putting Barack Obama in the White House. NO WAY. NO HOW.
Race does not matter to me....

I have always voted for dems regardless of race.  Had Hiliary made it through the primary, I would vote for her, even though I personally believe that our country is not ready a female to hold that position.  I speak from a female point of view and we are too often guided by our feelings and make rash decisions, but later end up regretting our action because we did not think it through.  I would love to have Bill back as our president, life was good and he worked for the people. 


so i guess it won't really matter to you

No it really doesn't matter..
I tune in just about everyday just to hear her and Joy go at it. Joy is rude, typical New Yorker I can say that, I am from there, so no flaming.
As a matter of fact, I do ...
... and as a (rational) independent, I find it really important to know all sides of all stories.

And, until this alleged tape of Michelle Obama is released and proven to absolutely be her, you are basing all of this on really sketchy accusations made by a relatively unprofessional news outlet.

Wasn't enough learned yesterday, upon people ranting and raving about this Ashley Todd atrocity, that accusations should not be put forth as absolute truth until all facts are in?
As a matter of fact, I have been
working at a convenience store during my college years. That is precisely WHY I want stricter handgun control and regulations that would seek to keep illegal handguns off the street and out of the hands of criminals. Obama simply believes that states out to have the authority to regulate and that the fed govt should not impede initiatives that address gun-free zones. For God's sake, if we can ban cigarettes from the workplace, public buildings and restaurants (which smoker's didn't like a bit) surely gun-free zones aimed at public safety (particularly when it comes to protecting children) should not be out of the question.
do you think if she were black it would have matter?
So sad.
Right to choose........no matter what? sm
Then by the same token, it is a woman's right to choose (or choice) to have sex in the first place, apart from incest and/or rape. In those 2 instances, the woman truly has no choice. However, I still do not believe that murdering a child is the answer. And I'm paying for children born out of wedlock anyway through my taxes.

"Just because someone adopts a child does not mean they are good parents." True, but there are also children in this world whose natural parents are not good parents.

Finally....I think you misunderstood my stance on doctors refusing to do abortions. In order to treat STDs, a doctor does not have to murder someone. In order to treat AIDS, a doctor does not have to murder someone. These are diseases which REQUIRE treatment in order for the patient to live. Conversely, in order to treat an unwanted pregnancy through abortion, a doctor MUST PERFORM MURDER, regardless of the gestational age of the baby. If a doctor does not believe that murder is right, then I believe he is within his God-given right to refuse to perform an abortion. I believe nurses and scrub techs and other support staff are also within their right to refuse to participate in such a procedure based on their religious beliefs/moral convictions.


Wouldn't matter

if it isn't the b.c. then it would be Ayers, auntie or who knows what else.  He is right to ignore this poppycock.  You and I both know if his b.c. was not legitimate the McCain campaign would have drug out proof.  How the heck else did they find some obscure possible aunt living in a housing project in the country illegally?  That and you want me to believe they couldn't find out which hospital he was born in or whether he is an American citizen?  Maybe one's reasoning ability improves with age, I don't know. 


As a matter of fact, yes it is (sm)

Actually the BBC is known for publishing both sides.  So, in this case you wouldn't necessarily go to who published it as much as who actually wrote it.  And the winner is.....


Peter Wehner
Former deputy assistant to President Bush


i think that it doesn't really matter who won
We're in the economic crapper either way. Now the pubs will be able to blame the dems for the next 4 years.
In all fairness, it won't matter if they
do want to attend to anything with a dem majority. Think Pelosi will get that private plane now? LOL. The party needs to reboot, that's for sure. This is exactly why I don't like a one party majority. We need those checks and balances from both sides, brilliantly set up by our forefathers.
doesn't matter

where I live or where you live.  A republican who tries to suppress voter turnout by declaring that registrations on a certain weight of paper are invalid is not a good guy. Notice he was voted out of office?  All youse defending Joe the Plumber and condemning a corrupt public official have your head screwed on backwards. The dems are in control now, so bleat on as you wish.  we will defend your right to opinion as well as own.  We're just that kinda folk.