Like I said, no matter how you try to twist it,
Posted By: it's not meant to be.......nm on 2008-09-16
In Reply to: Who says they don't fit, maybe you are just not trying hard enough! nm - kama sutra
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You lie and twist the truth.
If you check the archives you will see multiple requests to folks to stick to their own boards. I have no reason to lie about this but apparently you do. And it is so very easily verified. My advice to you is that if you continue to lie to not pick such obvious lies to tell.
As far as the other board, it seemed the liberals stayed off it for a while and there is still very little liberal activity on it. Check it out.
You sure know how to twist things up...sm
I know you are confused on the definition of patriot and freedom. An antisemite is someone who hates jews. This would not be me. What was antisemitic about any comment I made? Israel should not have a blank check to do whatever it pleases and be free of criticism.
Interesting twist
I heard on Face the Nation today that Chuck Hagel and Mayor Bloomberg were considering running together, perhaps on an independent ticket; did not indicate who would fill the top spot. Nebraska and New York, velly velly interesting. I personally would LOVE to see a viable third party. The same old same old has not been working well for quite some time; ergo, Obama's popularity. Even tho Bloomberg and Hagel are not new commodities, running as a third party ticket would certainly be different (one can only hope).
People twist
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Twist words much
The school closing was because of the ice on the roads (a wise safety precaution) not because of he cold temperatures. No one was complaining. Rather, he was having a casual conversation about how his daughters were adjusting to their move (they are allowed to have their own perceptions, aren't they?). No scandal there so I guess you felt compelled to introduce tardy to his list of mortal sins. Contradictory? Hardly. He's been right on his same message ever since the first hour of the primaries. No surprises to those who have been paying attention.
My twist on your situation
I was a democrat who became a republican and will probably reaffiliate as an independent in the not-too-distant future. I find the assumptions made on this board amusing and likely as not completely off base.
I think Obama is a likeable guy, but his starry-eyed supporters drive me up a wall. If not for the lunacy surrounding him and his office I probably wouldn't feel as apprehensive and insecure about his presidency as I do. Okay, I don't agree with him on much so far, but I so believe he's intelligent and sincere.
Try not to take the categorizing too seriously; it's just more silliness.
LOL...I didn't twist anything...(sm)
That's Fox's shining star with the gas can. He did that with no help whatsoever from me. That's your hero...not mine.
Another twist/question...(sm)
Since Israel was poised before the election to sling some rockets towards Iran, do you think they'll be butting in, and do you think Obama can hold them back?
I said that was one reason. Don't twist my words. sm
Typical liberal ploy. I can't believe how ignorant of history you are! 
No, and please don't twist my words. The conversation is sm
that Hitler founded his total belief system on the three pillars I posted here, the first being Jews and Communism. I don't know how much more clear I can be frankly! Where in the world did I EVER say he was sane. I am talking about HISTORY. I am not quite sure what you are talking about!
Why is it that you always find a way to twist things...sm
to your advantage? We went from Michelle Obama's thesis to Rev. Wright. Of course he is a racist. Has anyone here said he isn't?
No they were not....don't twist what little facts that were in those links..nm
Twist away, the truth is out there. Sam's right. You're wrong. nm
You shouldn't twist people's words.
Don't you just hate the way they twist facts - see message
To hear them talk they act as thought every single soul in America voted for Obama. They did not. More people didn't vote than those who did. The ones who are so adamanet and hostile are the ones who drink the kool-aid.
I do feel better about the whole thing as time goes on because I'm hearing Rap singers and other people of color, and even a lot of democrats standing up saying what in the world??? Many are questioning the decisions and what is going on. But all I say is if it keeps going the way it is 2012 is going to be a very good year for republicans. Probably even 2010 when the next election of senators and congress people are voted in/out.
There are a few people I am hopeful for to run. I think American will also wake up and say, this is why you don't vote someone in with no experience.
Really? Yeah, try to twist common sense into
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You related to Michael Moore? You twist
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McCain's theme song - Twist and Shout.
Biden's point was that whomever is elected President will be tested, and he feels that Obama is more qualified to deal with it than McCain. Once again, the McCain camp has twisted Biden's words to suit their own agenda.
For those who haven't read FOCA w/o a republican twist...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2020:
below is an exert. The link above is the bill.
SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.
(a) STATEMENT OF POLICY- It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.
(b) PROHIBITION OF INTERFERENCE- A government may not--
(1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--
(B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or
(C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or
(2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.
(c) CIVIL ACTION- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a civil action.
Careful! Some neocon troll might twist your post into a threat!!!
What's the matter?
Hit a nerve? Did I offend? Good.
What's the matter? No one is
week.....Camelot is coming apart! Actually, glad to see the pubs are big enough not to be saying *told you so.* Does all the questions about past associations make more sense now? It just keeps getting deeper and deeper and dirtier and dirtier. But, of course, if you have drank enough of the Obama kool-aid all of this too shall be whisked away. I know, I know, let's just give him time. He's going to make things better, yes he can!
What's the matter?
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It won't matter which one. sm
Both are beholden to special interests and the ruling class. A lot of people are oblivious to it, but there is a ruling class. The candidate I supported did confirm this, and so do a few of the candidates running on the third party tickets. Ever wonder why things never change and get worse, this is why.
There is a diary by a blogger on Daily Kos that explains it very well. It is very informative and worth the read.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641
what does that matter?
My nieces and nephews are raised by their white mothers... my grandson is being raised by a white mother and a white grandmother and a white great-grandmother, my stepchildren are being raised by their white mothers - that does not change the situation of how the world views these kids... and it does not change how they view themselves. Every one of the mixed kids in my family has a different answer for whether they are white, black, or biracial, and their answer does not necessarily go along with the color of their own skin.
I also think that being raised by a "white" grandmother was part of Obama's problem. She was an older generation, still scared of black people, and she was teaching Obama to be "white" and when he got older he realized that he was not "white". Because he looks like a black man, he obviously feels what a black man feels because he is treated in the world as a black man.
Yes, mixed children are beautiful - but they are "different" than us in that they are neither white or black and they are treated differently for that reason. I hope that changes before my grandchildren get older, but so far, they are still expected to conform to being white or being black...
If a mixed child acts white, he is accepted by the white kids and taunted by the black kids, if he acts black, he is taunted by the white kids and accepted by the black kids. The mixed children have to be taught from birth that they are a mixture of 2 heritages and to embrace both of them; but at this point, they still choose one or the other.
you can think all you want.....it just won't matter with him
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It does not matter! It is just that a man has sex with
a woman and a woman has sex with a man.
This is it! And this is right and normal !
Anything else isn't.
How can the government legalize it when it is morally wrong.
Again: I wished Miss California had won.
Would it matter?
Would it really change your mind? Or would you dismiss it away?
Have you ever read the Bible from start to finish with an open mind? Or even just the book of John if you don't want to devote that much time to it.
If you really want proof, try that. Seriously.
No matter how you try to say it, it's still
Since you're so concerned about teaching children right from wrong, it would be perfectly acceptable and should always be taught to children to never EVER call names, make fun of, or bully anyone! There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to even bring up the word 'homosexual' now is there?
If you teach a child not to bully or pick at anyone then you are teaching tolerance aren't you..... without even bringing up the word.
How hard is that to understand!?
What do you mean it does not matter?
Of course it matters. There isn't a draft registration if the intent isn't to SOME DAY have a draft!! Otherwise, what's the point in it? Use your head! It's to have a pool of young males to pull into govt wars!!!!
Just because we at this moment have a volunteer armed forces doesn't mean it will HAVE to stay that way.....
it can change on a whim!
What the heck does it matter to you
what happens on the conservative board. Like most liberals you feel an innate desire to police everything everywhere as you and your uppity ilk are a lot better than everyone else...You have a board, stay on it, and have your nice little liberal tea parties over here. I for one couldn't give a rat's ass what you think about the conservative board...you elitist control freaks...now can you TAKE that!
It's a matter of priorities.
Some people think taking people's lives in Iraq is more important than saving lives in America. It's nothing new with this administration.
I believe every single person in this country is going to be negatively affected by this disaster, while Bush sits by and watches and just flashes that moronic grin of his, and Cheney and his Halliburton buddies get richer and richer. Don't look for his followers to wake up and see this idiot administration for what it is. Instead, look for them to become frustrated because their own lives will be falling apart, and look for the anger, hatred and rage on their part to increase. Look at this board. It's happening already, and it's only going to get worse. Just wait.
Wussies? Why should it matter if someone is
a wussy or not on a political message board? Is that your way of admitting that you're a bully?
It's a real shame that your mother didn't take the time to teach you how to treat people, didn't take the time to teach you manners. She let a vicious animal loose on society, and that's really sad....for society.
It wouldn't matter what we said.
Their reaction would be the same. I suppose I could have raged against a thousand perceived wrongs, assumed that everyone knew my history, and called a poster who dared to question -what makes you think we haven't- as some kind of insensitive heartless slam. The real truth is much deeper and darker than that. I am not quite sure why people choose to tell their deepest darkest secrets on chat boards. Is it so that later on, someone might forget something they never knew, in order to attack that person with out of control fury, as some on this board are wont to do. Of course, my sympathy goes out ot anyone who loses a loved one NO MATTER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY DIED. But perhaps my sympathy should be more reserved for those who feel the need to constantly attack, denigrate, misinterpret (deliberately?), hound, and judge those who challenge an ideal. Having said that, I find some on here who post disturbed. Merry Christmas to all. My last post here. If anyone cares to respond, I will not see it.
That's a matter of opinion.
No a matter of opinion is
the fact that you don't like the president, but overly demonizing him and lumping him in with an evil person bent on destroying Israel and the United States is blatant over dramatization.
It doesn't matter when. sm
The bill is about when and not now, meaning NOW, prisoners taken in war are dealt with by us. The bill is about when Iraq becomes a full democracy and has nothing to do with who cares most about the soldiers. This just caught my eye on the menu because it is wrong headed. And, if it were true, the media would be headlining it. They aren't.
Here is the crux of the matter.
Embryonic stem cell research has been misrepresented. To the gullible public, who will believe ads like the one Michael J. Fox put out there, ESC has become the panacea and cure-all for all time. But it just isn't true. This quote from the article you posted, Brunson, is very important.
Reckless Hype and Overselling
Most of the campaign’s other ads have focused on “cures.” One shows a doctor saying that far from endangering women stem-cell research “could lead to cures for diseases that concern women like ovarian cancer.” Presumably the stem-cell treatment in question is bone marrow transplantation, an adult stem-cell technique widely in use for decades, and one in no way threatened by any legal barriers or related to embryonic stem cells or cloning. Another ad shows a pediatrician saying stem cells could help his patients, but offering no details. Another shows an Alzheimer’s researcher saying “stem cell research offers the promise of cures” for “so many devastating diseases like Alzheimer’s disease,” but offers no evidence to counter the near consensus in the field that this simply is not so. Many of these disingenuous ads repeat the claim that the initiative would ban human cloning, and none of the ads mention that all stem-cell research is already legal in Missouri and there are no prospects for that changing, or that the referendum would not support any new research.
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We simply must educate ourselves and maybe, in the end, examine what our belief system is about life. Morally and ethically I believe ESC research to be wrong. It will be the crowning touch down the long downward spiral we started on when we legalized abortion.
I will end with a quote from President Bush from the same speech I referenced in another post, where he was speaking to parents of adopted children.
(quote)The children here today remind us that there is no such thing as a spare embryo. Every embryo is unique and genetically complete, like every other human being. And each of us started out our life this way. These lives are not raw material to be exploited, but gifts. And I commend each of the families here today for accepting the gift of these children and offering them the gift of your love.(unquote)
In the end, it comes down to respecting life and God. The decision lies with each of us. I choose life.
It does not matter who votes for it or against it....
it is morally wrong. Because it is legal does not make it right. While I will obey the law of the land, as my faith teaches me to do, I will continue to speak out against a procedure that is murder, no matter who chooses it. See link if you do not believe that life begins at conception. View that and tell me that abortion is not killing a living baby and then defend it as right because someone chooses it. That choice is choosing to kill a child. The one portion of this. If you feel that a woman needs a choice of whether or not to kill a baby, so be it, that is your right and I respect your right to say it. I do not and will continue to speak against it, and I hope that you believe it is my right to do that as well. Some of us must speak for the most innocent who cannot speak for themselves.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=76c82299-9a7a-4656-8ec4-0f6fc1fd6ae0&f=06/64&fg=copy
It's a matter of opinion.
You were lying about your information being non-partisan.
As far as Plame being covert or not before the "leak" -- that is a matter of opinion. Please do not state it as unassailable fact that was already outed. Because something is listed as fact in a far right-wing publication does not make it true. That's common sense lesson #1 for today....just as I would say because Michael Moore states something as fact also does not make it so.
doesn't matter to me
I think my candidate could hold his own against either one of those, but everyone has to protect "poor Sarah." Frankly, I don't want a leader that has to be handled with kid gloves. Geez.
Doesn't matter. I will NOT be in ANY way...
responsible for putting Barack Obama in the White House. NO WAY. NO HOW.
Race does not matter to me....
I have always voted for dems regardless of race. Had Hiliary made it through the primary, I would vote for her, even though I personally believe that our country is not ready a female to hold that position. I speak from a female point of view and we are too often guided by our feelings and make rash decisions, but later end up regretting our action because we did not think it through. I would love to have Bill back as our president, life was good and he worked for the people.
so i guess it won't really matter to you
No it really doesn't matter..
I tune in just about everyday just to hear her and Joy go at it. Joy is rude, typical New Yorker I can say that, I am from there, so no flaming.
As a matter of fact, I do ...
... and as a (rational) independent, I find it really important to know all sides of all stories.
And, until this alleged tape of Michelle Obama is released and proven to absolutely be her, you are basing all of this on really sketchy accusations made by a relatively unprofessional news outlet.
Wasn't enough learned yesterday, upon people ranting and raving about this Ashley Todd atrocity, that accusations should not be put forth as absolute truth until all facts are in?
As a matter of fact, I have been
working at a convenience store during my college years. That is precisely WHY I want stricter handgun control and regulations that would seek to keep illegal handguns off the street and out of the hands of criminals. Obama simply believes that states out to have the authority to regulate and that the fed govt should not impede initiatives that address gun-free zones. For God's sake, if we can ban cigarettes from the workplace, public buildings and restaurants (which smoker's didn't like a bit) surely gun-free zones aimed at public safety (particularly when it comes to protecting children) should not be out of the question.
do you think if she were black it would have matter?
So sad.
Right to choose........no matter what? sm
Then by the same token, it is a woman's right to choose (or choice) to have sex in the first place, apart from incest and/or rape. In those 2 instances, the woman truly has no choice. However, I still do not believe that murdering a child is the answer. And I'm paying for children born out of wedlock anyway through my taxes.
"Just because someone adopts a child does not mean they are good parents." True, but there are also children in this world whose natural parents are not good parents.
Finally....I think you misunderstood my stance on doctors refusing to do abortions. In order to treat STDs, a doctor does not have to murder someone. In order to treat AIDS, a doctor does not have to murder someone. These are diseases which REQUIRE treatment in order for the patient to live. Conversely, in order to treat an unwanted pregnancy through abortion, a doctor MUST PERFORM MURDER, regardless of the gestational age of the baby. If a doctor does not believe that murder is right, then I believe he is within his God-given right to refuse to perform an abortion. I believe nurses and scrub techs and other support staff are also within their right to refuse to participate in such a procedure based on their religious beliefs/moral convictions.
Wouldn't matter
if it isn't the b.c. then it would be Ayers, auntie or who knows what else. He is right to ignore this poppycock. You and I both know if his b.c. was not legitimate the McCain campaign would have drug out proof. How the heck else did they find some obscure possible aunt living in a housing project in the country illegally? That and you want me to believe they couldn't find out which hospital he was born in or whether he is an American citizen? Maybe one's reasoning ability improves with age, I don't know.
As a matter of fact, yes it is (sm)
Actually the BBC is known for publishing both sides. So, in this case you wouldn't necessarily go to who published it as much as who actually wrote it. And the winner is.....
Peter Wehner
Former deputy assistant to President Bush
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