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Remember Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah???

Posted By: My voice on 2009-04-18
In Reply to: You of all people are un-American.... - s/l "kezofezin" liquid 10 cc

So as far as reading anything into Obama trying to get our nation back on the right track, thank God what was here before no longer around.


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Oh...forum domination. Someone holding your hands behind your back....
and preventing you from posting? Or don't you have a cause you care enough about TO post?
And you don’t remember on 9/11 about Bush?
The entire country did not know where he was, up flying around while the country was in shock. Oh, not only that- what about Katrina? Talk about a weakling- he personifies the very meaning. Telling Brown everything under control while New Orleans sank. You need to think about your posting about weaklings.
the saudi prince
Yeah, well you know, when president Bush holds hands with the Saudi princes, well you know that is just to get their oil and stuff and like that, and so we can borrow some money so you guys can go to wal-mart and stuff, cause it's all about the jobs ya know!pew, pew!wink,wink.
saudi prince
all i can say is.....
i was actually trying to remember if this happened with Clinton and Bush...
Did Bush give speeches before he became president? I of course cannot remember last month let alone eight years ago.... After the election I noticed how often I saw him speaking out and i thoght it was a little weird since he's not president yet. I understand he is getting a head start and saying what he is going to do etc. etc. but i still find it a bit odd. but again, i can't remember if this is "normal" for the president elect to come in and kind of take over before the actual inauguration date...
I'm wasn't for Bush but you need to remember...Obama is
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I'm wasn't for Bush but you need to remember...Obama is
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it is called politics, remember McCain and Bush hugging?
arent they supposed to be on different sides now? (Say, how does that actually work...people who voted for Bush and are now for McCain, which sides of the issues are they really on? Must be hard to keep it all straight...

Oh, (chuckel) remember Bush raking over McCain, and none to nicely a bunch of times when they were running against each other? That was a hoot
Yeah, I remember the "Catholics for Bush" signs during the 2004 election
so much for churches staying out of govt
I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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I have been holding my tongue on that ...sm
It is interesting though. These were Bush, Reagan, Ford and Clinton appointees that made this decision (5-3). And I see where the right is upset, but to me it is pivotal that they followed the law and not beliefs and I'll tell you why.

Charles Lane, writer for the Washington Times wrote (see link below), *Brushing aside administration pleas not to second-guess the commander in chief during wartime, a five-justice majority ruled that the commissions, which were outlined by Bush in a military order on Nov. 13, 2001, ***were neither authorized by federal law nor required by military necessity, and ran afoul of the Geneva Conventions.*** As a result, no military commission can try Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the former aide to Osama bin Laden whose case was before the justices, or anyone else, unless the president does one of two things he has resisted doing for more than four years: operate the commissions by the rules of regular military courts-martial, or ask Congress for specific permission to proceed differently.*

Looking at it this way, *Bush* NOT the Supreme Court, has held this up for four years when he could have done the prior one or two things. No president can just willy nilly make up things as he goes without going through the proper channels. This case is no different. Checks and balances is taught in elementary nowadays. I predict as he ways he will, he will get with Congress and they will collectively make a decision on something that will bring the POWs to justice (wishful thinking).

Do I want to see bin Laden's assistant, or any other war criminals walk? No, especially not the perpetrators in the 9-11 attacks. That's something I do not want to see come of this decision, but we must respect our own democracy in seeking justice.

This is just my opinion of what I understand is going on with the decision. If anyone can shed some more light on it I'd appreciate it. Have a good holiday weekend!
I'm not holding my breath......sm
I'll believe Obama gives me a tax cut when it happens, as well as help out with my health insurance. Can't tell from his website how "exactly" that's going to happen. His website if filled with a whole lot of words that are meaningless to me. Sounds good, but I don't see a lot of substance there, just like when he was campaigning.

Not holding my breath, but I'll come back and tell you if either of those things happen.



Not a Republican even though I leaned towards McCain over Obama, since he's such an unknown (and still is), and I actually decided I couldn't vote for McCain either....so my vote went to neither of them.


Who's holding a gun to your head? Don't like him
Simple as pie. Why spend your life being angry and posting these pathetically juvenile insults? Nothing better to do?
So, we should sit on our hands
So, even though we feel very strongly about something (and my group includes several Vietnam and other veterans), we should sit on our hands and keep our mouth shut until after the damage is already done? Not too effective if you ask me.

People gathering together in protest have brought a lot of positive changes to this country, and I will continue to exercise my right, respectfully, as long as I feel it is necessary.
What's holding Edwards back?

Still holding out that last desperate hope
DNC has proven this over and over and over and over and over again. Burden or proof is now on the Berg the Boob.
the world is holding their breath
After 9/11 would the United States really elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama?
Right now on C-Span, they are holding hearings
for the auto bailout. It's just starting.
And put in the hands of government?
No thanks. Every time government manages social programs it fails miserably.

The (unregulated) free market is the best way to handle health care another other things.

The problem now is government has their hands too much into the pot with regulation via the insurance companies. You think it's bad now wait until the government has sole control.
You have too much time on your hands....nm
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Really does have too much time on their hands, yes.
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wash your hands after that

little episode before you respond.


 


We're not holding our breath. Owning up
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James Montgomery, Esq. is holding a press

conference. Jesse Jackson, Jr. is "candidate #5" and he thinks Blagojevich should step aside and resign and let the Lt. Gov. take over. He states JJ, Jr. is qualified for the position. 


He states JJ, Jr. is not guity of anything. He is not worried about any consequences of this except the media frenzy that is being created by this. If the meeting between the Gov. and JJ, Jr. was taped, they have no concern over it.


He (JJ, Jr.) will be speaking with the investigators on Friday or Monday. He will be holding a press conference in 15-16 minutes.


There is a picture of her in a bathing suit holding
a gun...does that count?
Holding people accountable and blaming

people are 2 different things.  Blaming either party will get us nowhere.  The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.


Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future.  Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem.  If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up.  If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position). 


I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill.  You said as a general statement to all dems. 


so quit talking and start doing -- what's holding you
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It isn't the Navy holding her child support

The federal government has rules concerning how much of someone's paycheck that you can garnish.  I personally was in the Navy (in payroll of all things) and when I went through my divorce, the court ordered a whole $325 a month for 2 kids (both in daycare at $120/week/per kid).  We were both discharged just prior to the divorce and he purposely took a job that paid $6 an hour, working 20 hours a week.  The judge, out of the kindness of his heart, based the child support on him making $6/hr at 40 hours, not the 20 he was working.  He was capable of making more, but wanted to tick me off.  BUT, you cannot garnish more than 60% of ones wages and if back support is owed, not more than 65% with the 5% going to pay off the arreage. 


There are certain things that you can take into consideration when they garnish your wages (most states make it mandatory now).  In the military, they cannot include your food ration money, housing money, uniform money and whatever extras they have these days.  They can only include your base salary.  Being that military pay royally sucks, I can see where they are not handing over everything that is owed, especially if he is lower ranking. 


I know it bites the big one and I feel for your daughter, being that I have been there, but she can get through it and be stronger for it.  She needs to show her kids that she can hold her head up high and trudge on.  I'll keep her in my prayers.


Thinking good thoughts and holding him up...:-) nm
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Not bickering. Holding feet to fire. Like GP...
and I agreed to. Have a good night!
If that's the case, I'm holding a bake sale.
If my sending money to Israel can help them buy bombs to nuke the Palestinians off the face of the planet, I'm cutting them a check right now.

KaBOOOOOOM!

Mazel tov!
I'm not predicting anything...just holding onto that new 4-letter word
YES WE CAN
His hands were shaking like a leaf...sm
I was surprised because Bill is usually tough and takes his guests to task.

From my take, there was no denigrating of his nephew's service anymore than anyone else who speaks out against the war. Bill was the one who brought up his nephew's service and threw a fit about it as if his nephew was being singled out by Donahue when he said have your (Bills) children go fight in this illegal war.

I think Bill was just all shook up from being called Billy and Donahue screaming as loud as he was. That part was a joke to me. Thought they were going to bring out the boxing gloves and start round 2. Still LMBO about that.
Sheesh! You have way too much time on your hands!

why are you saying obama's blood will be on my hands
his blood will be just as much on your hand's and gourdpainter's as mine. you don't even know who i am. how dare you blame me for anything when you don't even know me.
No it means you have too much time on your hands..sm
just like the Sarah haters...wait, that's probably you too....never mind
Nope, she's right. He won that population hands down
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Dems had hands tied........
due to the fact that they did not have a filibuster proof congress. GWB - Jesus Christ in the Flesh - wielded the mighty veto pen - lick his boots - he is the REAL messiah.
YES, that way we could sit on our hands while Rome burns!
That makes sooo much sense.  Gosh, wish I had thought of it. Maybe we can put a voo-doo curse on him and he'll disappear? Then the REAL cowboys can come in and sit on their arses and save the day, right? What's your plan for an ideal stimulus or perhaps just tax cuts for the big corporations is the best plan?
Right - LOL Guess she wanted one for both hands.
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That was not the question....Gitmo is a holding area for terrorists...
The Hanoi Hilton housed American soldiers. And yes, I think it is VERY important that a presidential candidate is a patriot, has integrity, strong in the face of unimaginable pressure, and puts his country even before himself. Yes, I think all those are VERY strong criteria for the Presidency. Obama has nothing in his resume to indicate that he is that patriotic, that UNself-serving, showed that he put his fellow prisoners above himself...and you compare that to a terrorist in Gitmo. Good grief. ??
Yep...and today he is holding a town hall in France...
yukking it up with Europe as his own country circles the drain....pittiiiffullll.
Thousands may have been dead at the hands of Saddam anyway, what with
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Palin wins hands down 73% to Biden 25%

Way to go Gov. Palin!  Bright, confident, knowlegeable, cheerful, intelligent, aware of what's gone wrong with our economy and how to fix it, knows foreign politics, knows the voting records of Obama, Biden & McCain.  Knows how to help the every day americans get ahead in life.  Smart on education, highly intelligent about being energy independent.  Knows that America needs to take back Washington and make it work for us and knows how to get it done.  Already has the experience of being governor.  Anyone notice that whenever she said that Obama/Biden would raise your taxes Biden never said disagreed.  Gov. Palin connects with everyone and that will come out.  Biden made at least 6 mistatements tonight and I think Americans will see that Obama/Biden will say anything thinking they'll get people's votes.  I'm waiting for them to come out with Clinton's old line "I feel your pain".


Gov. Sarah Palin is going to be very good as Vice President Sarah Palin.  I can't wait!   


And all hold hands and sing kumbaya....
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trust me...you're playing right into the media's hands.....sm
thinking exactly what they want you to think about her.

Doesn't surprise me a bit.
Low class, hands out, gimme my share, I'm too lazy
to do it on my own crowd. The first ones to want it all given to them and the last ones who want to work for it. Of course they would boo the man in a wheelchair, never taught how to behave around respectable people.
Low class, hands out, gimme my share, I'm too lazy
to do it on my own crowd. The first ones to want it all given to them and the last ones who want to work for it. Of course they would boo the man in a wheelchair, never taught how to behave with respectable people.
Biden is the biggest fool out there this campaign, wins hands down.nm

Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
I know my history of the region. The land of Israel is the hands of its rightful owners.

The Palestinians have been given the opportunity in 1947 when the UN granted a mandate separating the land into two states.  The palestinians rejected the mandate and launched a civil war that Israel quickly won and declared their independence.  Then in 1948 Israel was invaded by Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan which Israel one as well.  The palestinians were given their chance and decided on violence instead and they were the losers.  That's how it cookie crumbles.


In 1973 once again Israel's angry neighbors tried to invade, the Yom Kippur war.  Israel was winning that one too when a cease fire was called.  The palestinians lost fair and square.  They could peacefully have coexisted with the Israeli's but they continually reject any peaceful solution and send their suicide bombers.  Let's not forge the Oslo Peace Process in the early 1990s where Israeli government once again extended the olive branch agreeing to the PLO to form an autonomous government if they could agree to coexist with Israel and recognize Israel's right to exist.  The palestinians answer?  To laung Intifada II against the Israelis.  Once again, more violence perpetrated by the palestinians.


Finally, what about the Sharon's disengagement plan implemented in 2005?  Israeli government removed civilian and military presence from the Gaza Strip as a gesture to the palestinians so they could no longer claim that Gaza was an occupied" territory.  Even after that gesture, the palestinians have refused to recognize Israel. 


The palestinians do not want peace with the Israelis.  They will settle for no less than the total annihilation of Israel as a nation which is the what the entire Arab world wants.