It is called more attacks like the one we went through
Posted By: jm on 2009-01-12
In Reply to: And what credible plots were stopped by - his policies?
Do you actually believe the govt is telling us about each and every plot they help dismantle to make the country safer. Oooh- can I be in your fantasy movie.
People may hate GW - You know our "President of the United States", but Americans (the patriotic ones that is) are grateful for the policies that have been put in place that enable them to find out when things are happening so we will not endure another 911. Sorry you don't like the fact, but that's what they are.
I for one am very grateful we have not been attacked again.
"And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me. And I'll gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Cos there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the USA!"
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Shocking personal attacks after you just called people empty headed?
the hypocrisy is mind boggling and humorous at the same time.
need more attacks
More liberals need to start attacking back at the neocons. For too long we have remained quiet while the republicans have been in full attack mode, especially during last year's election, smearing a true Vietnam hero, Kerry, whereas Bush never even finished his National Guard duty and Cheney and Rumsfield never went into the military but they find it is quite alright to send our sons and daughters to war for nothing. We need more liberals to start screaming out about the terrible people in the WH.
No Attacks?
Anthrax.
No need for attacks
he got what he wanted which was the Iraq War and taking out Sudam. Show me bin Laden and maybe I'll be willing to give Bush some credit. Something mighty strange that we with the mightiest miliary in the world can't get him. But I guess Cheney would say, "SO??????" What a couple of crooks!
How many terrorists attacks have we had since 911
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Thx - the attacks are really getting out of hand
Reminds me of that line in the movie where the guy says "I'm mad as he!! and I'm not going to take it anymore". Really though, I've read back through all the posts and not one post about something positive about Obama's plans. Just attacks to the other side and other posters. I feel if I'm going to get this I might as well just turn on MSNBC, and now I get my MIL who has such hatred for Bush is coming out saying that today market failure (whatever you call it- that 300 or so point drop) she's saying that is McCain and Palin' fault. I don't even get into political arguments with her anymore. It's just mind numbing how closed their minds are. Glad you liked my post.
we don;t need personal attacks.
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personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.
personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area. Stick to the issues.
Why the personal attacks?
This has nothing to do with this conversation. What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business. The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people.
Let's talk about attacks....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVBaM2lQsg
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28656#continueA
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/12/conn-paper-tired-attacking-palin-attacks-angry-town-wasilla-inst
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/debunking-the-moonbat-attacks-against-palin-part-1/
There are plenty more, those are just a few.
The attacks didn't happen here
they happened in London, England and you don't see people London whining and acting like the world is coming to the end. They got up and got on those darned buses and trains. These terrorists made very little headway at all yesterday.
You all don't get the point do you? You really don't. No matter where we are in the world you're going to find fault with it as long as it is done under conservative leadership.
I think I understood every word you said loud and clear. 
and the personal attacks continue
Occurs to me there's no basis in any of your attacks.
Name one thing I made up and we'll see what the truth is. Go ahead, poser - explain what you mean.
Foiled Terror Attacks...sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/britain-thwarts-plot-to-bomb-us-bound/20060810015209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
Fox Attacks Barack Obama..sm
(see link)
We were told by moderator -no more attacks on
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And now we revert to personal attacks
on posters when you can't them to agree with you. What a waste.
Stop the personal attacks. SM
Stop with personal attacks, the vile name-calling, grammar policing and foul language.
Debate the issues. Respect opinions.
I'm not moderating for niceness but there is some troll behavior going on and it has to go.
Moderator
Of course it's the fault of the terrorists for carrying out attacks.
And it's the fault of this president for obsessing about Saddam Hussein (since he's been doing since the early 1990s) and not doing enough to protect his own people from future attacks.
The terrorists have all the power here. They're holding all the cards. They once again managed to scare a large part of the world. They also know something that American soldiers DON'T know. The know what the outcome of their plan is going to be. They use the element of surprise, and when they wake up in the morning, they don't wonder if they're still going to be alive the next day. They already KNOW they won't be because they've planned it that way. They control their own fate, as well as the fate of everyone who gets in their way.
Our soldiers have to deal with that every single day. A car bomb here. A suicide bomber there. Every single day is 9/11 for them. It sounds real nice to pretend to respect and honor them when participating in a photo op on an aircraft carrier. Why doesn't he care enough about their lives to provide adequate body armor and Humvees for them? He has no problem giving big tax breaks to his rich base (and YES, they are his REAL base, not the Christian right; just wait till he betrays you all with his moderate Supreme Court nominees). He has no problem giving free healthcare to all Iraqis. Forget about the American people for a minute. Why can't he care about our troops -- our CHILDREN -- enough to supply them with adequate equipment? Of course, he personally would not know what constitutes adequate equipment because HE WAS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO EVER SERVE IN COMBAT.
As far as giving this President too much credit, you obviously didn't comprehend one word of my post.
 HELLO!
can we just debate and stop with the personal attacks?
I know, Democrat, I know, and if I come across as harsh sometimes, that is just me..however, the post below that I condone terrorism really cut me..I have never condoned terrorism..to protest, of course, that is part of America, long live protests, but to say I condone terrorism..OMG..I have tried to debate logically, of course, not what conservatives believe but that is what debating is all about..two different ideas..I have not attacked personally yet these neocons continue to post on the liberal board and attack the liberals for what they have posted and they have attacked me non stop..I thought a few weeks ago we made a deal that we would post respectfully but the minute I started posting once again, there has been nothing but attacks, not logical insightful debate..If a neocon does not agree with me that Chavez is a good man or that I agree with protesting in Argentina (not breaking the law, just protesting), well then lets debate it..dont attack me and call me a terrorist..which I take very seriously and it is an affront to me, it is like cursing at me..Oh geez..I do have to say, Democrat, you have always posted above and beyond board..I have always enjoyed reading your posts..
Reminder: Watch the personal attacks. sm
Debate opinions, argue conflicting viewpoints. Steer clear of personal attacks.
Thanks,
Moderator
It may be hard to credit Bush with no attacks when there is...sm
nothing tangible to show for it, right?
But then, that's the whole point.
No attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11.
There's the proof.
I'll be a believer and give President Bush the credit for this one.
Draft Dodger Cheney attacks War Hero
The words President Murtha are sounding pretty good!
DERRICK Z. JACKSON
White House plays chicken with a war hero
By Derrick Z. Jackson | November 19, 2005
THE WHITE House is so deluded, it actually believes it can turn a soaring hawk into a scrounging chicken. Stung by the call by US Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania to pull out of Iraq, Scott McClellan, President Bush's press secretary, said this week, ''It is baffling that he is endorsing the policy positions of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic Party.
Talk about playing the chicken-hawk card. A White House where most of the architects of war avoided combat in their own lives dared to associate two people who are worlds apart in world views. Moore made the anti-Bush ''Fahrenheit 9/11, which infuriated the right wing by breaking box office records for a documentary film. Moore was booed at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
Murtha is the 73-year-old recipient of two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star for combat duty in Vietnam. He is a Democrat whose three decades in office are marked by support of President Reagan's policies in Nicaragua and El Salvador. Murtha was a top Democratic supporter of the 1991 Gulf War. He wants a constitutional ban on burning the American flag.
In a 2002 press briefing, former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz termed the support of politicians like Murtha for the Pentagon as ''wonderful. In the 2004 vice presidential debate, incumbent Dick Cheney said, ''One of my strongest allies in Congress when I was secretary of defense was Jack Murtha.
For all those shows of patriotism, Murtha was skeptical about the rush to invade Iraq in 2003 of Iraq even though he voted to give President Bush the authorization to go to war. He publicly said Bush beat the war drums before building an international coalition. Murtha said he had not seen anything in intelligence reports that indicated an imminent threat. Murtha said Bush ''has put the country in such a box. He can say, 'You'll undercut me if you don't vote for this resolution.'
One month after the invasion, when no weapons of mass destruction had yet been found, Murtha warned that American credibility was at risk. By the September, the absence of weapons of mass destruction made him join the much more liberal House minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, in calling for Bush to fire the planners of the invasion. Despite the proclamation that ''we achieved a marvelous military victory, Murtha became increasingly frustrated with the chaos of the occupation. This summer, Murtha said administration officials were ''not honest in their assessment that they were winning the ongoing battle.
Finally, this week, Murtha unleased a scathing attack on Bush's Iraq policy. He called it ''a flawed policy wrapped in illusion. He said he believed military officials when he visited Kuwait just before the war and they showed him where American forces would be attacked by weapons of mass destruction when they approach Baghdad. But now, with no end to the killing in sight, he said, ''The US cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. It's time to bring the troops home. . .They have become the enemy.
Murtha talked about soldier after soldier he has visited in hospitals, wounded and maimed by the invasion. Yet, there's more terrorism now than there ever was and it's because of what? Is it because of our policy? I would say it's a big part.
In perhaps the most humble admission of his press conference, Murtha said, ''The American public is way ahead of the members of Congress.
This came the day after Cheney threw mud in the direction of critics who gave Bush his war authorization. Cheney accused them of making ''irresponsible comments. He accused them issuing ''cynical and pernicious falsehoods to make ''a play for political advantage.
He said, ''The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory -- or their backbone.
This was the same Cheney who gave us some of the greatest falsehoods of this generation with ''There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction . . . We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons, and that we would be ''welcomed as liberators.
Murtha clobbered Cheney's words the next day, saying, ''I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and send people to war and then don't like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done.
This hawk still soars, above the scrounging chicken hawks.
Derrick Z. Jackson's e-mail address is jackson@globe.com. ![src=http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/File-Based_Image_Resource/dingbat_story_end_icon.gif]()
No, I didn't....it was in response to all the attacks about unwed mothers..
but i guess you feel that is okay, right?
Senior moments on the trail: Mc attacks O ties to
For the slur that was dead on arrival, go here:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/the-khalidi-gam.html
Missile attacks targeted Al Qaeda strongholds.
President Obama is targeting the terrorists who are responsible for 9/11 and who may be planning future terrorist attacks against the United States. That is what he said he would do before he was elected, and that is exactly what he has done during his first week in office. President Obama has already done more to keep our country safe in the past 4 days than Georgie Porgie did in the past 8 years.
Evil constant attacks on Palin are about to bring the biggest backlash
I believe you may have cost yourselves the election with the horrendous extent this was taken to.
What's it called?
It's called LYING.
Uh, maybe that's why it's called
What's more he/she/it started out with a sarcastic remark of *aren't we worthy*? You sound like crybabies. Liberal board is for liberal people. Now is that so hard?
Nobody was called (nm)
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He should be called on this and often...nm
While he stands up there being the hypocrite he is.
I am the one who called him that. sm
I stand by what I said. He may not have raped Kathleen Willey or Paula Jones, but he may as well have. I totally believe he did rape Juanita Broaddick.
and you won't be called (nor have I)
They call mostly Democrats and "likely voters." Rasmussen, Gallup, and Daily Tracking are the most reputable ones, but even so, I ignore them.
Also, keep in mind that being on the no-call list prevents you from being called unless I'm mistaken.
You called it yourself--- not me!
 Vote Away
He actually called him ......(sm)
a *house negro* as well as Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. He also said he was no Malcom X and was betraying the Islam faith. I haven't heard Obama's reaction yet, but I think it's kind of funny. The terminology is outdated and laughable, and who wants to be like Malcolm X? Was the reference to Malcolm X supposed to be an insult or a compliment?
It's called........... sm
disillusionment and resignation, GP. The more I read about the whole BC thing and now hearing that the SCOTUS has delayed the hearing another 5 days, I guess I am resigned to the idea that nothing is going to stand in the way of Obama....not the Constitution and not the voice of the people. I kind of look at the Constitution as I do the Bible and sin. A sin is a sin to God (excepting one) and breaking one part of the Constitution is breaking the whole thing. Call me gloom and doom if you want, but I have come to the realization that we are not living in a democracy or a republic. We are living in a political machine that operates at its whim without regard for our country's most basic foundations.
On the Clinton-Obama front, like I said. It should be interesting, to say the least, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Hillary is getting something more out of this than just the letters SOS out beside her name. There is more that goes on in Washington than is dreamed of by mere residents (I won't even use the word "citizens") of this once great nation.
Pardon my sardonic pessimism this morning. lol
That's called....(sm)
They'll get it however they can. Check this out. We have a double lot (just enough to keep me busy with a garden...lol). When we bought the place there was a really old shed at the back of the property. It was built probably about 40-50 years ago. This thing was literally falling down, dirt floors.....completely in shambles and definitely not inhabitable. We knew we would have to tear it down when we moved here. So, we noticed on the assessment that 2K of the state assessment was attributed to that shed. Yeah right. We didn't need anything more than a sledge hammer and a crowbar to tear it down. So, after we took it down we had them come out for a re-assessment. They took $200 off the assessment value. Hmmmm..... Yeah, I raised cane with them but it didn't do any good. I've been planning on putting a greenhouse out there. I can't wait to see what happens with that.
No, that is just called being a
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That's called....(sm)
Let's scare the public into thinking the stimulus is evil. What a joke! That's almost as good as Steele saying the stimulus doesn't create jobs, it creates work. Talk about grasping at straws....
Unless you would like to be called
the "c" word (4 letters ends with "t"), then I would think twice.
This is highly offensive to some people and you know this. Reading your post is like dealing with my children who are 5 and 6 years old. One instigates the other calling each other names to lure the other into a fight. The difference though is my 5 and 6 year old are more mature than you are and understand the concept of playing nicely and treating each other with respectfully. They understand if they've said something that hurts the others feelings they will say they are sorry. Something you obviously don't understand. And after reading that you adore and hang onto every word Keith Oberfool has to say and you let him tell you how to think and what to say and do, I had to read no further than your first sentence.
Posters on this board have been disrespectful towards others. You think your aiding your cause by calling us teabaggers? Think again. You think your aiding your cause by saying anyone who participated is a racist? Well the laugh is on you because in these crowds of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people I saw plenty of black people. Go ahead, tell them they are racist.
You know I do hope you keep it up, I do hope Oberfool an the other moe-rons at BSNBC keep having guests on like this piece of garbage Gorofool. You wouldn't see the truth if it slapped you in the face. Go ahead and laugh it up, because I'm right there smiling all the way to the elections next year. So go ahead keep calling us names. The laugh will be on you.
First of all, don't believe I called you
JTBB now did I? I don't think so. Secondly, I was being comical when I said I too have sleep deprivation, etc. Loosen up a bit. Dang. I think you need to take a Xanax and chill out a bit. Sheesh.
Regardless of my joking, which you obviously didn't get, I have no sympathy for people who want us dead.
LOL, and you called me a bigot up above, so
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GT, you have called me a bigot....
on this board at least 10 times. Who's the one who generalizes here? I can guarantee you that if I'm guilty, I'm certainly not alone. Oh yes, all Republicans are rich and living behind gates, ignoring the plight of the poor. Bull pucky. Talk about a sweeping generalization. I don't live behind a gate, I don't live in a fancy house, we make a decent income but are certainly not rich, and guess what? We're not even religious. You want equality for everybody? Well, that isn't something that is given to you, it's something you work for. My husband spent 7-1/2 yrs in college and got a master's degree, and worked his way through the whole thing at a gas station paying for it himself. We work long hours. There are people who refuse to value education, refuse to work hard, and just want a hand out. That's a fact. There have always been the poor and there always will be. We've poured TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars into programs for the poor over the last 40 years and the poverty rate is basically the same. To succeed takes effort.
It's called the TRUTH!!!
I think it's called the First Amendment.
The poster isn't *getting away* with anything. He/she is exerting his/her constitutional right to form and voice an opinion. Just so happens what the poster said is true about Bush having the Saudis being escorted out of the U.S., and if I remember correctly, some of those escorted were relatives of Bin Laden.
Like I said, the poster isn't *gettin away* with anything because the poster hasn't done anything wrong. The person who has *gotten away* with a lot of illegal, immoral, unethical acts is Bush.
And *voila* had to be called down
Because he/she responded in profanity when her/his views were disputed. And know a lot PK. I know A LOT about your posting habits more than you could ever imagine.
Had they called me, there would be one more vote!
Yes, but we are the ones who are called intolerant. sm
Also, notice how the guys holding the sign have their faces covered. Cowards all of them.
Which is exactly why Bush called for...
conservation...or a reduction in use of oil, in his state of the union address, not a complete changeover. You can't fix anything overnight, and scaring people into it and causing even more damage, as this article describes, is NOT the way to do it, and those hawking global warming KNOW that, but it is typical socialism ploy...you get everyone on board by screaming *they are trying to hurt you but WE will save you.* New cause, same song, second verse.
It's called fraud
I happened to get a call from the police in Arizona a few months ago. I have always lived in Ohio. It seems someone (several someones actually) had LISTS of people across the country of personal info, account numbers, passwords, email addresses, etc. pretty much everything you need, even machines to make the credit cards and license IDs. Arizona puts the fraudsters away just for having this info without your permission. Apparently they had a large fraud bust out there and they don't waste their time on proving what they did with it. YEA ARIZONA!
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