Just thought I would point out that a few days ago or so, an Obama
Posted By: Lu on 2009-01-18
In Reply to: No need. I'm not the one who's creeped out by - throngs of happy people. sm
supporter actually used the snarky kool aid and cult lines towards me because of my views regarding the end times and Obama's and America's role. I think it went something like "talk about drinking the kool aid..." Funny how when the shoe is on the other foot, it's inflammatory and hateful! But no one said boo, not even me I might add, when someone basically threw those insults at me. That knife cuts both ways sista! OUCH!
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The point is Obama NEVER thought it was important
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11 days out. Seriously. Aren't we beyond the point
poppycock
JBB, you may have a point, so hard raising a daughter these days!! (Cute!) :-)........nm
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I thought Brunson made a good point down below.
One of the reasons the antiwar protesters have not been taken more seriously is that they have personalized this against Bush and not against war. I do think it is possible to separate the two. But I also think that protesting in the streets puts our military at risk, in fact I know that it does. The pen is a mighty weapon. Senators and congressmen and women want to be reelected. Sitting in front of the WH with a bullhorn and shouting obscenities and name calling to the President of the United States is not going to ever work. And it shows a distinct lack of respect, if not for the man, then for the office and the White House itself.
Nope, 4 years 11 days (1471 days or 1383 til 11/4/2012)
You do really need to learn how to count until 11/4/2012 or 1/20/2013.
Also, sorry to hear in four years you won't care anymore.
grrr...obama and bush interruped Days of Our Lives nm
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Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
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A lot of the hysterical people at McCain rallies these days are Obama plants....
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Here's a thought Obama.....
How 'bout we kick their butts out of this country, since after all, they are here ILLEGALLY, and then they can go through the same legal means everyone else has to go through.....
We don't need 'reform'....we need the laws that are already in place to be EXECUTED!! There's a thought!!
Regardless who is leading the band.....they are criminals here illegally! And lets not parade their children about on TV trying to elicit pity from everyone....look at all the homeless children left behind... pleeeeeze!!!
The parents were here illegally. They can take their children back with them.... no one is stopping them!
Thought of that, but Obama is running for the top
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I thought you said Obama was addressing his
just trying to clarify it for you. You seem to be easily led..... oops, misled.
Fine. I just thought it was bad taste, and I am no Obama fan.
But whatever I guess.
I thought poster had remarked about Obama
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Exactly. The real Obama himself. I thought Powell
was to be picked for something by Obama since Powell endorsed Obama. Waiting to see where Oprah fits in this too. Already picking shady characters for his team and more liberals. Partisanship, my ....
I'm sorry...........is Bush in office? Thought Obama
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I thought Obama was going to unite Washington
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People thought Bush was so bad, under Obama,
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OMG, I hope my post didn't look like I thought Obama did it
I know he didn't. He's a very decent person and respectful and when something is wrong he'll say so (and will have words with his people if they cross the line). I wasn't sure who did it. The news said they were going to tell us who is responsible but they never did (go figure). I just think its a horrible thing to happen to anyone and DH and I were talking tonight about when did all the nasty things like this start happening. I'm sure 100 or so years ago it wasn't bad like this. I just think it's a horrible world when someone is running for an office and people think its okay to do this. How low will they go?
What part of 60-plus days of his first 100 days...sm
don't you understand. I think it's obvious to anyone actually researching his movements what his main goals are - and I don't in my wildest dreams see how in the world he can keep spending as he has been and wants to continue doing and cut the deficit in half by end of his term. IMO his chances are running out quickly. God help us all!
You just proved my point. Still nothing positive to say about Obama.
There you go. At least counter the argument with something positive about Obama. That is if there is anything. Otherwise its all just blowing smoke.
Her point is that Obama voted repeatedly against tax breaks for the middle class and suddenly he'
the middle class person's best friend! Funny how now he wants to help us, when each time he had the opportunity to, he voted against it.
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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after two days
of contemplation, I offer my opinion regarding the repub veep. It is all just so much manufactured hype. Unfortunately, repubs have had nothing to get excited about and had to watch on the sidelines as a hope and delight swept through the nation. The repubs did kind of a bizarro world imitation of the real movement and forced McCain to pick a person he had met twice to create headlines. Unfortunately, the hoopla is based on nothing. It will die down soon and the Obama train will keep on rolling. The Jewish people will certainly not vote for a person who supported Pat Buchanan the rabid anti-semite. Our older veterans will not take the chance of having a person in power who has not thought about foreign policy because she was too busy suing Bush to get the polar bears taken off the endangered list. Mark my words, in 2 weeks the repubs will be chasing some pre-school friend of Obama in order to create another sensation.
Does anybody else, have days that you just wish...sm
could turn on the TV or the computer, and not hear something political....from either side....for just one day?
I think most people have made up their minds, or are close to it. But we get pounded every single day, by the candidates themselves, analyses of the candidates, ads that are misleading (by both parties, I believe, at times)....smear tactics...he said, she said.....I think that they meant..... etc......well, you all get my drift.
I'm to the point that I really only want to watch the debates, to see how they hold up there.
Anyways, I'm super busy this week, and anytime I even venture into where the TV is, my husband is watching financial shows on in the background, and gosh darn it, even all they do is interject political views.
Is it almost November yet???
The days of (sm)
ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country are long gone. Now it's all about gimmie. You're right, Kendra, it should be serious and respectful, but I'm afraid there's not much of that left these days, particularly for those in the government.
With less than two days to go
I just want to say a few final things. First off, I respect everyone's opinions on this board. The great thing about America is that we have the right to free speech. I just hope that we continue to have that right.
Tomorrow is supposed to be a day of fasting and prayer for those who do this. I hope that everyone who believes will be praying to God to put the right candidate in the white house. While many of us feel that it would be God's choice to have Mccain, there have been to many times when I have thought that God would have it one way and it's been the other. While I know that based on the Bible God would want me to vote against abortion and gay marriage, I still believe that if Obama wins he will be able to use him. If anything to bring the church to their knees and really seek forgiveness and revival.
While I am not voting for Obama, I will pray that he is kept safe. There are many people who will want to harm him simply for the color of his skin, and in this day in age that is awful, but still true nonetheless.
I hope that no matter the outcome of this election, we citizens can learn to put differences and party lines aside and work together to better this nation. Whoever wins is stepping into a big mess THAT BOTH SIDES HAVE CREATED and at some point we are ALL responsible for.
Lastly, I hope that after the election the tempers and name calling on this board can cease. We need to debate without bashing. I am just as guilty of getting hot tempered as anyone else, and I apologize for anytime I was out of line.
We are still in for some rough times, folks. I pray that God will keep us and help us through these troubled times.
Last but not least....
Good Luck to Mccain supporters, well wishes to Obama supporters! javascript:editor_insertHTML('text',''); LOL
76 more days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SESr9D5Gd7A
Those were the days
There is no doubt in my mind that MQ is more profitable for the top level than TL ever was. This is why it makes me so angry when people bash unions. Without workers banding together and bargaining greed takes over and rich is never rich enough apparently. I saw that a-hole Bill Gates testifying before Congress that he needed more top level (CHEAPER) workers because there weren't enough qualified Americans......sound familiar? Unions may not be perfect but every benefit older workers like you and I received was won by the sweat of union workers who were willing to stand up for what was right and the benefits they won benefited even MTs, whether the newbies care to agree or not. Unfortunately the unions have also become greedy and they care more about dues paying members than the rights of workers. Just look at AAMT or whatever they call themselves now, they don't give a hoot about American MTs, they care about dues paying members whether they be Americans or Ethiopians!!! AAARRRG. I'm going to bed now. I have a presentation to make to the Kiwanis at noon tomorrow which I had better get up early and prepare for or maybe I'll just wing it. LOL
Only 16 more days!
Only 15 more days to go!
   
100 Days
Interesting analysis. I'll just link to it since it would take far too long to list all of Obama's screwups here.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04252009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/100_days__100_mistakes_166177.htm
It sure is! Why, just a few days ago, you could buy
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."
That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.
It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.
You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?
I do agree we are in the last days.
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scary days
I will not vote republican for multiple reasons going back to the Reagun administration and I think Palin is a joke. It's like Dubya trying to put Harriett Myers on the supreme court - WHAT!!!!! Lies? Lets talk about lies. Like being led into a war with no end in sight due to LIES. Our children being slaughtered in that country for nothing - except maybe oil. Tax cuts? I don't know about you, but I'm not in the upper 10% tax bracket, so I didn't reap any benefits from the so-called "tax breaks." Lets not forget the worst deficit this country has ever seen all due to Dubya's reckless spending. And never, never, never forget Katrina. That was genocide. Let's toss in Bill Clinton's "sexual misconduct." Hmmm.....I don't want anyone in my bedroom. That was Hillary's problem - not the country's. But we have Foley playing footsie with the congressional pages, whatshisname and his wide stance in airport bathrooms and don't forget that religious nut who was good buddies with Dubya and visited the white house on occasion that was snorting meth and having sex with a male prostitute. How's that for family values????? No child left behind? What a crock. We have been manipulated over and over by the current administration as well as by the media. They swallowed the Kool-Aid, too; until Katrina. It took that disaster to open their eyes, but they seem to have closed again. We have the patriot act, no habeas corpus and if the republicans get in again, they will line up the supreme court with their right-wing fanatics who think that everyone should abide by their MORAL rules. You cannot legislate morality. And anyone with half a brain would realize that abstinence does not WORK. Palin's daughter for example. Take away birth control, take away abortion - who's going to pay for all of these kids? The republicans aren't going to fund any programs to help them. Lets just step back 50 years and start all over again. My God! Wake up! You'll find more babies in dumpsters and illegal abortions will wend their way back into society creating more misery and death. I value my rights. I value the right to decide what is best for me. I don't think it is the right of our government to determine the outcome of my life. I guess it does take 8 years to ruin a country. Look how divisive everyone is. Voting republican is voting against your own best interests. The trickle down theory DOES NOT WORK. You will not benefit from any of these proposals - they are proposed to keep big corporations and greed on the upswing. My parents retired with good pensions - will you? My parents had great insurance that paid the WHOLE bill - do you? My mother made more money when she retired (20 years ago) than I do currently. Wages have not gone up. Gas has gone up. Groceries have gone up. The cost of living has gone up as well as insurance policies, medications. Corporate America treats its employees like slaves. There is no compassion - just greed. Vote republican and you will fall on your own sword. Bill Maher said it best "Americans are stupid and are getting stupider; they deserve the leader they elect." I am praying Obama who graduated from Harvard due to his own sweat and hard work gets elected. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he knows what it is like to be on the ugly end of the stick.
5 days and counting
Why won't Sarah Palin answer a spontaneous question from the press? What is this candidate hiding? How date the elitist repub party think they can railroad a candidate by us by dressing her in a skirt.
Meet the Press, Time Magazine, Today Show, Newsweek, George Stepanoupoulous. No soft balls like the View, Barbra WaaWaa or Fox propaganda machine. We must stand up and demand answers from the repubs. This is OUR country - demand accountability.
That was then and this is now...He just said it today of ALL days!!! sm
WHY WOULD anyone in their RIGHT MIND say such a thing TODAY of all days???? Unless they were completely out of touch with the people of America and what they're going through.
He is another Bush - PERIOD.
He WAS a good man. But his best days
Not the happiest new 13 days out.
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for 3 days he's been fixing to get there?
These campaigns can fly someone across the country in mere hours, yet he TALKS about going for 3 days? Of course, there's speculation that Obama wants to pilfer that house to find whatever documents are there that prove he wasn't born in the US. Before you start flaming (like I really care, anyway), a life-long ACLU Democrat, etc. (Berg) has an interview on michaelsavage.com (the soundfile). I heard it yesterday so didn't need to access it, but a friend of mine who has been on this issue for ages wanted to hear it. Savages w/s was bombarded. It may be available now.
When Rush's Mother was at the end of her life, he broadcast for the duration in secret from Cape Gerardo. I think it was 2 months. It's something you just do and don't need to announce it to everyone.
Ahh yes, GP - I remember those days too!!
no one could have told me that this industry would be like this 25-30 years ago....sad..
Only 18 more days, and counting!
Only 17 more days, and the evil
You mean 14 days....you still can't count
As of 1 pm EST only 11 days and 22 hours to go
Now if we can just keep W's hands off any fountain pens, we're home free.
And 1473 days - woo hoo
As for the fountain pen issue - I highly doubt it. Remember the damage clinton did up til he left office. I wouldn't hold your breath.
1473 days til what?
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