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Yes, Obama won the election. That doesn't mean he's the best man

Posted By: Lu on 2009-01-18
In Reply to: That's because believing that - jj

for the job.  It just means he's good with deception.  Talk about smoke and mirrors! 


I don't know who or what Obama is and I don't know what role he will play in the years to come.  What I do know is our days are number and he will set the stage for certain prophesy to be fulfilled.  Watch and see.


Is Obama The Antichrist?  I don't know.  But the spirit of the antichrist is already in this world.




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Doesn't matter...the facts were there before the election
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Yeah, I know...if McCain doesn't win the election, he'll probably steal it
The theory behind democracy and two parties is after two terms of one party, the other party comes into office for no more than two terms. It is so the two parties meet in the moderate middle and no extremes of either are reached. Far right and far left wingnuts take the country to such extremes, it destabilizes the masses and civil disorder will erupt due to the stark contrast between the two parties extreme beliefs. Well, I think that as I have viewed all the posts, there is reason to be concerned about the educational system in this country and what people rely on, progress or tradition.

But, bottom line is the country is in a state of turmoil like never seen since 1929 and for that very reason, everyone should want to vote for the other party unless they are wealthy and want tax breaks. Which is always the case.

Home schooling by mothers who aren't able to educate and lackluster teachers have added to this country of people who are so devisive, they appear to hate each other. They say a common enemy brings people together, but even with the corruption before us, lies and deceit by the GOP, costing us all so much for years to come, hasn't done the job. It is pretty hopeless.
Don't they know the election is over and OBAMA WON?
HOW FUNNY!
yep, and isn't funny how after obama won the election
the dems are still as half-crazed as ever
after the Obama election there are on this forum
and maybe in the whole US, only 2 sides:

pro-Obama versus anti-Obama.

And this applies to ALL fields, even to: Is Michelle pretty or fugly?
Question....if Obama wins the election...
and it is determined that Iran is on the brink of a nuclear weapon, and Obama decides to go to war before they use it (pre-emptive war)...and he has said he would never take the military option off the table...if he and Congress decided to invade Iran...would you guys support that?
I am praying that Obama wins this election
I do NOT want a president/VP that condones racism, hate filled rhetoric, anti-american views.  Palin supports the Alaska Independence Group and they are anti-government and want a separate america and now Palin and McCain are basically encouraging the same thing.  Obama brings unity and diversity and I am glad that he is running.  What a breath of fresh air.  I dont care about what anyone here has to say about the rumors of this and that concerning Obama.  They have all been started and expounded upon by McCain/Palin campaign and they are lies.  And WHY is it okay to give the wealthy the breaks in this world and that is an acceptable republican concept but as soon as someone says they are going to look out for the little guy and SPREAD THE WEALTH of the ecomony evenly, they are suddenly a socialist?   Did McCain NOT approve the bailout plan that is buying STOCK into our banking system?  Did McCain NOT approve the plan for the goverment to own half of America's mortgages?  Dont talk to me about socialism McCain until you look at yourself.  And by the way, people try to associate Acorn with Obama and voter registration fraud.  What about the GOP intimidating people to change their party and telling them they HAVE to change their party in order to vote for a sexual predator law?????  That is voter fraud and McCain is the GOP. 
CNN treating Obama颼th day like Election Day

Week from Wednesday, 04/29 CNN preemptying all regular programming to relieve the Election Day electricity that ran through our country.


The network says it will compile a national report card of Obama's performance, using opinion polls and a series of viewer surveys.


The big night is April 29, a week from this Wednesday, pre-empting regular programming.


I have no doubt Obama has support...it will be a close election.
"you are one, we are many." Good lord. LOL.
Obama could win popular but still lose election - see message

It is possible.  It has happened before.  I think now especially in these final two days, when people are hearing Obama saying in a radio interview that he will bankrupt coal companies and skyrocket electricity bills, a lot of people are really wondering.  Especially the states where coal is their major industry.  They are starting to realize that a vote for the O means they'll be out of work.  Along with the birth certificate issue not being resolved, and other the other numerous questions about the O people are really wondering about him. 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_el_pr/split_decision_4


 


Obama admin. skeptical of Iran's election results.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/13/official-obama-administration-skeptical-irans-election-results/

U.S. officials are casting doubt over the results of Iran's election, in which the government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner Saturday.

U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News.

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khameini apparently has released a statement calling the results "final" and hailing the election as a legitimization of the regime and its elections.

Turnout appears to have reached 82 percent, an all-time high. But when asked if the turnout figures should be considered suspect, given the "not credible" counts for Mousavi and Karoubi, the official said: "Oh, it has to be [considered suspect]."

There are already reports of violence outside Mousavi's campaign headquarters, and of huge demonstrations for both sides in central Tehran, with Mousavi trying to make his way to the one in his behalf. Even if widespread violence occurs, analysts see no prospect that this event would lead to a full-scale attempt at revolution or the toppling of the regime.

The dominant view among Obama administration officials, though not uncontested, is that the regime will look so bad as a result of whipping up Iranian hopes for democracy and then squelching them that the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to President Obama's gestures of engagement.


It is what Obama DOESN'T say....
that I am concerned about.
Obama doesn't even know how many

He said he has visited 57 states in this country, had 2 more to go.  Now, if this had been Hillary or a reb candidate, the media would still be dragging this through the mud.   Maybe it was just a freudian slip?  Organization of the Islamic Conference?


A little curious.


Why doesn't Obama let Biden take over for him...
and go to DC and show leadership like McCain is? Didn't hear Letterman making that point. And you won't either. lol.
You're the one not getting it. Obama doesn't not have to do much of anything

in order to win over a "moderate muslim" because they are by definition open to Western ideas regarding politics and general ideas.  They embrace a sort of liberal Islam in sharp contrast to the extremist or fundamentalist muslims who have zero tolerance and believe in and embrace the concept of Jihad against the infidels. 


I'm not just talking about muslims who live in the U.S., but muslims around the world.  For example, President Karzai of Afghanistan has been deemed a moderate muslim because of his political ideas which is why he fears violence against him from the extremists in his country.


Get it?  Obama saying that he wants to "win over" moderate muslims is akin to a MTSO saying they want to "win over" Indian MTs to work with them.  It won't be hard and will take very little convincing.  Not to mention King Obama is the "world's president."  Like I said, he's just posturing of the media.  The liberal media loves him and his pretty speeches.  Journalists have become babbling idiots since O burst on the scene. 


and Obama DOESN'T mis-speak?-dont go there
Don't go there unless you are ready to hear it back. Obama thinks there are at least "57" states and talks of when the "bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor". He is also the king of "uhhh" and "ummmm". He reads a teleprompter well. Otherwise, he makes many mistakes when speaking.
So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm

Why doesn't Obama come clean about socialism?
And if you wanted to know what McCain wants to do for the country you could go to his website and read it if you have room in your brain for anything not Barack Obama.
i bet hillary doesn't vote for obama
will snicker as they push that button for mccain
I just hope Obama doesn't make use of them...
for political dissidents. You can't tell me that Congress, including Mr. Obama, do not know they exist. Come on now.
I don't believe Obama doesn't want town hall meetings....
because of the format...not to snub any particular town. He does not do when the questions are not scripted. No one knows what is going to be asked at a town hall meeting, and they are asked by regular folks, not paid commentators. Not enough control to suit Mr. Obama. I don't blame him. He doesn't have the experience to handle one, he would come off looking bad and he knows it. Politics 101. You would think, though, as much as he talks about hope and change and the people, he wouldn't mind answering a few questions from the people...?
Why doesn't Obama impose a windfall profits tax on the...
Hollywood bunch and redistribute some of THAT wealth if he is so he11 bent on redistributing wealth?? At least THAT windfall profits tax wouldn't raise gas at the pump!!
Repeated? Obama doesn't want to repeat tax cuts

for the rich -- and "rich," by the way, is anyone earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year.


Obama wants to give tax CREDITS to businesses that keep jobs in the USA, instead of exporting them out of the country.


These huge greedy corporations may be creating jobs, but they're not creating American jobs.  Obama wants to try to slow that down and wants to reward companies who don't turn their backs on Americans.


Doesn't change the fact....Obama is a socialist....
and you are condoning trampling all over someone's civil rights because they asked a question and Obama answered it honestly. Why would that upset you so much? Ohhbaamaaa is socialist, he said he was in his answer, explained it very clearly. So you should just embrace his socialism and stop shooting the messenger, right?

Slurs? Unfounded accusations? You mean like doing a law enforcement background check on someone for asking a question?

That is HONEST?? pUleezzeee.
Well surely Obama doesn't fund all sources
a name please of a source you would consider credible.
Double standard doesn't cover Obama
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Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html
A socialist country doesn't seem like such a bad thing?!? Then vote for Batista Obama.
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Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm

In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.


He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.


Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man?  Unless he has the same view of America.


Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
Not about the election.
As I have stated before, I am pro-life, but am just appalled at the things that extremists do--on both sides of this issue.  I went to my OB/GYN the other day for a prenatal exam and my 2-year-old son found a business card with pictures of bloody pieces of fetuses on it that said that anyone who has an abortion will go to...well, you get the picture.  While I am not entirely sure that this is not true, I am disgusted that someone would leave such a thing lying around where small children can find it.  Luckily, my son just turned two and really did not realize what it was he was seeing, but just think if an older child had found such a thing.  Sometimes I think that people get in their own ways when trying to make their points.  I am sure that I am guilty of this, as are many others on this board.  I actually just wanted to vent a little.  Hope everyone is having a good afternoon!
No way did JFK's dad buy the election
I live in the same town as the Kennedys and they are notorious for not paying for things.
Election Day
A large group of my neighbors will be walking down the street together at 7:00 a.m. Tuesday morning to cast our votes for Barack Obama. It will probably end up being like a little block party in celebration of Obama.

No matter who wins this election, it will be a thrilling race and a shocking result!


LOL! Maybe next election!
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One day before the election. This is so sad.n/m
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election
If you mean McCain and Palin and "best man and best woman", I don't think so. Not unless you are super rich or, if middle class, you would care to get stomped on again, like we have been for the last eight years?!
Another example....if the election had gone the other way....
would you just have dropped all your concerns about McCain and started supporting him on this board? Of course you wouldn't. Don't act like you would. Geez. LOL.
What are you saying here? Before and after the election and
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LOL...the dow has been going down since before the end of the election (nm)
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When they come up for re-election

we will be provided the usual substandard party-approved (both parties) candidates to choose from - if it is an actual contested election.  How often does a rogue candidate even get past the primaries in this country?  And how effective could this hypothetical nonpartisan candidate be if elected, when the other kids in the House and Senate won't let him play? 


Most candidates don't stand much chance against any incumbent.  Seems that we vote based on 'name recognition' and don't much care in what context we recognize the name.  Has to be the explanation for how some of these guys (and gals) stay in office term after term despite the fact that we despise them.  Nobody can unseat them without party approval.  And if you spend enough advertising bucks in the several weeks before election we'd vote for Genghis Khan.


Same theory as they use in product advertising.  Say the name and slogan enough times on TV and when we get to the stores we'll recognize it on the shelf and figure it must be okay.  See?  All the hard decision-making has been done for us!


Obama was anointed by the democrats; McCain was anointed by the republicans, and I did not see a whole lot of difference between them.  Both promised to take us in the same direction at slightly different speeds.  So I voted for the lesser of two evils (lot of good it did me).  And when you do that, it's easy to forget you still voted for evil.   


Sad to say, we seem to get the candidates and products we deserve.  We vote for whoever the party runs, buy the products that spend most on advertising, and that's pretty much that. 


I am at a complete loss as to how to change any of this because it all seems to be one big interconnected system.  Throwing the bums out is a great idea, but replace them with what?  More party clones?  I don't think a true populist candidate stands much chance against the two party machines we have. 


the election is
Unless you own an oil well, I would not get too worked up about it.
So will the next election when we
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Were you like on Mars during the election? SM

Here's a clue, no one really listens to hatred.  You need to cozy it up a bit, put a little whipped cream on it, disguise it a little.  All the personal attacks and name-calling, while typical of you libbies, isn't very palatable.  KnowwhatImeanVern?


2000 election
Yes, Bush did win only one election.  The first election was handed to him by the Supreme Court Five.  If it had been handled properly and fairly, Gore would have won as he had the popular vote. 
Election my foot.
You still believe the last 2 elections were legit?  Oh of course you do.  You still can't get it through your thick head that Saddam had nothing to do with 911.  Go back to your board.  You people cannot stay off ours - why is that?  Scared?
Kerry would win if election was now
E-MailPrintable

Poll: Kerry Would Top Bush Today

NEW YORK, Nov. 5, 2005










President Bush delivers his speech after being sworn into office for a second term, as Sen. John Kerry looks on, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Jan. 22, 2005. (AP)



(CBS) If last year’s presidential election were being held today, the results might well be different than the results of a year ago. 41% of registered voters say that if the 2004 election were being held today, they would cast their ballot for Democratic candidate John Kerry, while 36% say they would vote for President George W. Bush. 13% say they would vote for someone else, and 6% wouldn’t vote at all.




IF 2004 ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY…
(Registered Voters)


John Kerry
41%
George W. Bush
36%
Someone else
13%
Not vote
6%

In this poll, 12% of registered voters said they didn’t vote in 2004. Among those who did vote, 45% said they voted for Kerry last year, and 46% said they voted for President Bush. 2% reported voting for Nader, and 7% won’t say for whom they voted.

If the election were held this year, both candidates would retain more than eight in ten of the voters who supported them last year, according to this poll. But President Bush would lose about 3% of those who said they voted for him last year to his Democratic opponent. And although none of those who supported Kerry last year would now vote for Bush, 13% say they would support another candidate. But among voters who either didn’t vote in 2004 or voted for another candidate, or refused to say for whom they voted, Kerry leads Bush by 34% to 11%.

IF 2004 ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY…
(Registered Voters)


In 2004, voted for: Kerry
John Kerry
81%
George W. Bush
-
Someone else
13%
Not vote
4%

In 2004, voted for: Bush
John Kerry
3%
George W. Bush
84%
Someone else
7%
Not vote
3%

In 2004, voted for: Other/didn't vote
John Kerry
34%
George W. Bush
11%
Someone else
23%
Not vote
16%



For detailed information on how CBS News conducts public opinion surveys, click here.


This poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 936 adults, including 828 registered voters, interviewed by telephone October 30-November 1, 2005. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample and the sample of registered voters could be plus or minus three percentage points.

i'm so sorry to hear that. Maybe after this election
you will be an INSURED American :)
Well, I try. I did it all through the election process
and I still have many questions on his election, his "pals", etc., but until I find (or should I say the news media finds) some really stick-to-his-rib issues, I'm still willing to give it a try. I also don't think he's really on the up and up, but.....I try keep an open mind, and let me tell you, it's been very hard.
Yep...happens every election cycle...
but seems worse this time.