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No they were not....don't twist what little facts that were in those links..nm

Posted By: nm on 2008-10-20
In Reply to: The facts were given in the links above in the thread nm - pay attention




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Don't you just hate the way they twist facts - see message
To hear them talk they act as thought every single soul in America voted for Obama. They did not. More people didn't vote than those who did. The ones who are so adamanet and hostile are the ones who drink the kool-aid.

I do feel better about the whole thing as time goes on because I'm hearing Rap singers and other people of color, and even a lot of democrats standing up saying what in the world??? Many are questioning the decisions and what is going on. But all I say is if it keeps going the way it is 2012 is going to be a very good year for republicans. Probably even 2010 when the next election of senators and congress people are voted in/out.

There are a few people I am hopeful for to run. I think American will also wake up and say, this is why you don't vote someone in with no experience.
The facts were given in the links above in the thread nm
really now
Lies? What we show are facts, links, articles.
What about poor Palin?  She is a human being and look at the ATTACKS on her.  By the way, she is a republican and I would say Dem's are bashing.  We are not bashing Obama, we try to show you articles, links from CNN who by the way supported Obama, and you state we are bashing Obama.   
You lie and twist the truth.

If you check the archives you will see multiple requests to folks to stick to their own boards.  I have no reason to lie about this but apparently you do.  And it is so very easily verified.  My advice to you is that if you continue to lie to not pick such obvious lies to tell.


As far as the other board, it seemed the liberals stayed off it for a while and there is still very little liberal activity on it.  Check it out.


You sure know how to twist things up...sm
I know you are confused on the definition of patriot and freedom. An antisemite is someone who hates jews. This would not be me. What was antisemitic about any comment I made? Israel should not have a blank check to do whatever it pleases and be free of criticism.
Interesting twist
I heard on Face the Nation today that Chuck Hagel and Mayor Bloomberg were considering running together, perhaps on an independent ticket; did not indicate who would fill the top spot. Nebraska and New York, velly velly interesting. I personally would LOVE to see a viable third party. The same old same old has not been working well for quite some time; ergo, Obama's popularity. Even tho Bloomberg and Hagel are not new commodities, running as a third party ticket would certainly be different (one can only hope).
Like I said, no matter how you try to twist it,
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People twist
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Twist words much
The school closing was because of the ice on the roads (a wise safety precaution) not because of he cold temperatures. No one was complaining. Rather, he was having a casual conversation about how his daughters were adjusting to their move (they are allowed to have their own perceptions, aren't they?). No scandal there so I guess you felt compelled to introduce tardy to his list of mortal sins. Contradictory? Hardly. He's been right on his same message ever since the first hour of the primaries. No surprises to those who have been paying attention.


My twist on your situation
I was a democrat who became a republican and will probably reaffiliate as an independent in the not-too-distant future. I find the assumptions made on this board amusing and likely as not completely off base.

I think Obama is a likeable guy, but his starry-eyed supporters drive me up a wall. If not for the lunacy surrounding him and his office I probably wouldn't feel as apprehensive and insecure about his presidency as I do. Okay, I don't agree with him on much so far, but I so believe he's intelligent and sincere.

Try not to take the categorizing too seriously; it's just more silliness.
LOL...I didn't twist anything...(sm)
That's Fox's shining star with the gas can.  He did that with no help whatsoever from me.  That's your hero...not mine. 
Another twist/question...(sm)
Since Israel was poised before the election to sling some rockets towards Iran, do you think they'll be butting in, and do you think Obama can hold them back?
Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.


I said that was one reason. Don't twist my words. sm
Typical liberal ploy.  I can't believe how ignorant of history you are! 
No, and please don't twist my words. The conversation is sm
that Hitler founded his total belief system on the three pillars I posted here, the first being Jews and Communism.  I don't know how much more clear I can be frankly!   Where in the world did I EVER say he was sane.   I am talking about HISTORY.  I am not quite sure what you are talking about!
Why is it that you always find a way to twist things...sm
to your advantage? We went from Michelle Obama's thesis to Rev. Wright. Of course he is a racist. Has anyone here said he isn't?
Twist away, the truth is out there. Sam's right. You're wrong. nm

You shouldn't twist people's words.

Really? Yeah, try to twist common sense into
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You related to Michael Moore? You twist
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McCain's theme song - Twist and Shout.
Biden's point was that whomever is elected President will be tested, and he feels that Obama is more qualified to deal with it than McCain. Once again, the McCain camp has twisted Biden's words to suit their own agenda.
For those who haven't read FOCA w/o a republican twist...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2020:


below is an exert.  The link above is the bill.


SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.



    (a) STATEMENT OF POLICY- It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.


    (b) PROHIBITION OF INTERFERENCE- A government may not--



      (1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--




        (A) to bear a child;




        (B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or




        (C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or



      (2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.


    (c) CIVIL ACTION- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a civil action.

Careful! Some neocon troll might twist your post into a threat!!!

Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.

Here ya go.........

http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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When you can't fight facts for facts
then it's buh-bye....well buh-bye to you too....I'll have a dicussion with someone who will discuss and not blame.
When you can't fight facts for facts then it's buh-bye.

Facts, stick to the facts...sm
The subject here is the media and their treatment of Gov. Palin, which continues to this day, to this minute, by the liberal left.

Tthe media threw down their gauntlet as soon as she was picked on that Friday, and hounded her for almost a full week.

And you think she should have waved a white flag at them in her acceptance speech? She put them on notice, that she is above them. And continues to be, with grace and style.

She's not whining, and neither are we.

I just shake my head at your audacity.

The media is the one that started this with her, and you would do well to remember the facts in her case.




IN this case, the facts are the facts.........
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Thanks for the links! nm
nm
thanks for the links
I will check them out after finishing my IC work!
I am still an IC and I don't know why my taxes are high, I have been doing it for over 10 years, but I have an accountant do them, and I pay quarterly's yes I do... I still always end up paying at the end of the year even if I try to calculate it correctly because of deductions I thought I had, etc. The only thing that changed in my personal life was two years ago I bought a house. Did that cover the questions?

I just don't trust either politician, but align myself with the Republican values more strongly.
Thanks for the links....sm
...but this was the year after she was no longer the mayor of Wasilla, and three years before she became governor, so she was not in office in 2003. I notice they don't even try to link her name to this. I'm sure they would have, if they could have.


Anyway, sure doesn't excuse the drug problem in the communities, though. I still don't like it one bit.

Links

I do not understand why so many links are put on this board?


On a blog forum one should put one's own opinion, not what is posted on the internet.  At least one should put it in one's own words.


Here are the links again...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html


http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html


http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htchem/articles/20060123.aspx


Here's two links...sm
First off, when you have a private meeting with the president, it's private. But then parts of it were leaked to the press. Then the White house asked for a retraction of false statements made by Obama camp. Then the Obama camp retracted what they said.



There's more to it than these two stories, but these are the best I can find at the moment.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/11/obama-urges-bush-help-auto-indusstry/

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Business/story?id=6231372&page=1


Links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129667/posts

This link has a clip:
http://motownsports.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1685563
Some links for you
Sorry it took so long. I kept reading about his plans to keep the military over there but sure enough when I want to find the exact article I can't. Here are some articles I did find. (P.S. - I think it odd the person who is chosen for SoS position (Billiary) is the same person who said they would "obliterate Iran". Am sure that's going to go over well with them.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/04/obama-adviser-keep-80000-troops-in-iraq/

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857338,00.html

http://www.laboreducator.org/troopshome.htm

Here's what some people say (so it's not just me) -

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081112052420AAQI2Su

And here's one of the scariest things I've heard (out of Obama's own mouth - if you can listen to it without watching his eyes read the teleprompter). He's pretty much telling us "Yes I can make us defenseless".

http://msunderestimated.com/2008/03/01/obamas-plans-for-our-military-video/

Links...(sm)

Warning:  On this first one there are some terrible pics, but I posted this for the text.


http://www.staticbrain.com/archive/pentagon-censors-soldiers-access-to-internet/


On this one, please note where he says *When you’re in an environment where you don’t have access to any information sources, independent or otherwise, all you can do is conjecture. We didn’t have any access to newspapers or the Internet. *


http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-14/article/29458?headline=Iraq-Veteran-Speaks-Out-Against-War


Here's a reality check for you:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOj7Nxcn6gg&feature=related


Here's two links for you
These were posted before some of the crap was taken out, so some of it may be old, but these give a good idea how the government plans to spend our money, and our children's money, and our grandchildren's money, etc.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123204034869386185.html



This one uses Adobe.



http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AmericanReinvestment2009115

Here's the links for ya.

 


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0



 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/


See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817

http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144


See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817

http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144


What is it with these links today?

SM, better links than supplied by OPs

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/01/019637.php


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


 


Can you give links on any of this....
other than..."I heard..." Believe me, the way auto sales are falling, if they could manufacture one that ran on water and sold for $1200 they would be selling them, because $1200 is better than zero...good grief. Talk about your conspiracy theories. All the automakers are downsizing and grasping to try to sell cars and they would NOT ignore something they could build and sell cheap...simple economics 101. The Wal-mart approach to car sales, and they all know how successful wal-mart is, because all the pieties about "I only buy American" and "offshoring" fall to the wayside in favor of "cheap." All those same people who gripe about wal-mart buying overseas and supposedly mistreating their employees run over each other to get to the sales, and don't think they don't. Typical Democrat mantra...do as we say, not as we DO.

As to the car McCain offered the bounty for on the battery...he was talking about one that would replace what is in use now...not one whose top end is 30 mph and you have to charge it after an hour. Good grief, get your facts straight. :-) I am sure he meant one that would at least do 50 mph and you could drive it to the quick pick and back without having to plug it in. That being said, I did see where Toyota (on the US side) is working on technology to attach solar panels to charge batteries. Of course, that would mean leaving that sweeetttt little sports car out in the sun...ahem. Bet Teddy Kennedy won't be buying one and I bet RFK Jr. won't either...lol. Gotta love'em. DO as we SAY...not as we DO.
Links provided
The words were witnessed by two McCain aides and three reporters who did not report it at the time.

If it wasn’t true there would be lawsuits (which there are not). And with him running for president you KNOW he would be denying it as he is denying other things, but he is not denying it.

Here are the links below where this information can be found. Many more links but I think five are enough.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/05/02/194648.php

http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/Articles/Opinion/Columns/2008/04/15/23789/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/8/17456/91972/887/492360

http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=8571

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=536_1210293502


URLs or links only, please. nm