Not coming out with hate against Obama on this board? Are you serious!?
Posted By: mystery man on 2008-09-21
In Reply to: Why do you hate - Trying to understand
there's hate all over this board, whether it is because he is black, whether because people believe the anti-Obama stuff, or because he is a LIBERAL, oooohhh, bad boy liberal. As for Sarah Palin, I don't hate her, I don't know her. All I know is that she is a very poor pick for VP especially for a man who is 72. She has no credentials to do the President's job. Oooo, but Obama has no experience.... Well, he has been all over the world, has met with different heads of state, has been fully vetted, has lived a life that he knows different kinds/types of people, and he is very intelligent. In all honesty, Sarah Palin does not answer one question with the intelligence that satisfies me, and she dances all around the questions she does not know how to answer. If she isn't coached, she doesn't do very well. When she is coached, that is her pat answer for the entire episode of questioning. Not very smart, not good for America, McCain did not put Country First, he put McCain First. All a political ploy, and the right fell for it hook, line and sinker.
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Only hate when coming from the other side?
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I have been coming to this board off and on
for a while now, usually just stay quiet because I don't agree with half of what either side says and I really don't like all the bashing part of politics. Some of the things said here and other places are quite disgusting, the bickering I can handle and actually enjoy reading, but when it gets to that base level it is just disturbing to me. But, here is my question. And, I'll preface it by saying that I am a Republican but am finding myself more of an independent after the last 8 years.
For all the people spouting off the virtues of Sarah Palin, I have not heard one comment in her defense or an excuse for her about her part in that whole radio morning show. You know the one, where the radio DJ was making fun, being cruel really, about a the President of the Senate in Alaska that he, nor SP like. You know the part when he called her fat and SP just laughed, when he called this woman a BI*CH and she just laughed, when he called this woman a cancer and she just laughed (BTW, this woman actually had cancer and they knew that). Sure, she later said she was "caught off guard" by his comment. Whatever. Wouldn't a decent human being have just said, Stop. I'm not going to take part in this. Any number of things. If she was so caught off guard by that, what is she going to do as VP. And, how does she end the whole conversation. When the DJ makes a comment about visiting Palin, she says "I'd be honored to have you."
This is probably my #1 problem with her. She seems to have a total lack of compassion. She enjoyed bashing Obama during her speech the other night, and I was disgusted to see that the audience seemed to enjoy it too. I have worked within my community and I am proud of that, as should Obama be. I didn't hear a whole lot in her speech about what she plans to do, or what her actual stand on issues are. I didn't hear much of them from McCain either.
I dare say that if these 2 keep letting her evade the tough questions, well any questions at all, I might be crossing lines this year. Yes, it seems that the media, or certain media, are unnecessarily attacking her but I hope that doesn't become an excuse for them to have her not answer questions.
That's interesting, coming from one of the most judgment neocons on the liberal board.
I think a lot of the hate spewing on this board is racist...sm
I think that a lot of the Obama naysayers really think that anything is better than a black man being president, not caring one iota whether his plan is best for the country or not. Racism is alive and well in America.
You "watcher", the biggest purveyor of hate on this board
I don't recall Clinton using taxpayer money for expensive little sex jaunts to ANOTHER COUNTRY!! Duh! I'm sure the good people of South Carolina don't appreciate their stupid hypocrite of a governor, the same governor that wanted to turn down stimulus money for their state, the same governor who also had the gall to to be all self-righteous about Cllinton, the same governor that ignored his own children on Father's Day, lying, deceiving and cheating them. But no, you with your ugly hate-stirring atitude have to turn it around and blame everything on OUR PRESIDENT once again. SMOKESCREEN? YOU SERIOUSLY NEED A THERAPIST!!!
I used to be pro-Obama, but so much keeps coming out (sm)
To be honest, I am not really thrilled about either of our choices, however, Obama scares me more...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7145283472276068711&ei=5DTUSIvKFoPo-AGg7omyAg&q=Look%2C+I+got+two+daughters+%E2%80%94+9+years+old+and+6+years+old%2C%22+he+said.+%22I+am+going+to+teach+them+first+about+values+and+morals%2C+but+if+they+make+a+mistake&vt=lf&hl=en
Obama press conference coming up...sm
Is it just me? Or don't we usually only have one president at a time. I thought for sure he didn't take office until January 20th.
Just an observation...Obama supporters -- no need to flame me for stating the obvious.
What? I haven't seen any of this stuff coming from Obama.
This is just fear-mongering. And not very witty, at that. When do you guys come up with this poo? Oh, yeah, that's right--from your Spam email file.
Lots of doom and gloom coming from Obama lately...
Actually, I don't hate Obama....I just don't want him...
to be President, because I think it is wrong for the country. That is the great thing about America...we can all have our opinions. You can say Obama's "former" pastor if you like. I don't think on a personal level Obama has changed his feelings toward Wright or the doctrine of his church. He went there for 20 years. The man married he and his wife and baptized both of his children. He called him mentor. He wants to get elected so he publically distanced himself. I don't say that because I hate Obama. I say that because that is my impression of his actions. Frankly, I would have thought more of him if he would just have been honest about it. But he wants the job.
Haggee is not McCain's pastor and never has been. McCain has been going to North Phoenix Baptist Church for 15 years and his pastor is neither of these men. Parsley is a friend from what I understand, but neither of these men are McCain's pastor and he did not have a relationship with them like Obama had with Wright. Haggee just came out and endorsed McCain, and when McCain heard the comments he rejected the endorsement, just like Obama rejected Wright. So I suppose they are even on that score. McCain never took "advice" from Haggee, that I can find evidence of. Haggee simply publically endorsed him.
I do have some good things to say about McCain. He is third generation military and both his sons are in the military; one is in Iraq as we speak. He is a decorated war hero. His family has a history of service to this country. I believe that is a very good thing in these dangerous times. He had some issues in his personal life as a young man, did things he is ashamed of...but so did Obama. McCain cheated on his first wife and Obama did drugs and drank as a teenager. Both have been honest about that.
I also think we as Americans need to get over the blame game. Oil companies are not responsible for the mess we are in, neither are CEOs and millionaires (of which both Obama and McCain are). Yes, there have been some crooked CEOs. But you never hear about the thousands of other CEOs in the country who are NOT crooked and people act like they don't care about those other thousands. Just lump all CEOs together and say they are corrupt. Is that really fair?
Are all millionaires really to blame? The Bill Gates Foundation gives millions every year to charitable causes. So do many other millionaires. The so-called millionaries, big boys and CEOs also pay 90% of the taxes in this country already. Don't you think that is enough? If the Democrats keep on like they are, taxing American businesses into oblivion, businesses will fail, people will lose jobs and jobs will continue to go overseas. When it gets too expensive to operate in this country because of ridiculous taxes, if a business is to survive it has no choice but to offshore. That just makes economic sense. Instead of "taxing the rich" so much and driving businesses and employment offshore, they need to incentivize them to stay here. Oh...I guess that makes too much sense.
I would hate to see Obama win
when he hardly has any experience at all himself and has associations with terrorists. Does it not bother you people that dictators WANT Obama to be our president? Does that not concern you? A man who says there are 57 states. You keep harping on McCain being old and SP being a "hearbeat" away from the presidency but don't you think that there is a greater risk of an assassination attempt on Barrack Obama being that he would be the first African-American pres and there are some crazy bigots out there who would refuse to let that happen. What then....you want Joe Biden in office.....a man who said Roosevelt was the president at the beginning of the great depression and warned people on TV when Roosevelt wasn't the pres at the beginning of the great depression and there was no TV back then. That makes me feel all warm and cozy too.
I don't hate Obama.....sm
But in case you haven't noticed (which obviously you haven't), your boy Obama is the fear monger lately.
He's very inexperienced, and it shows day by day.
By all means, keep on counting down with the others. It will all become clearer as the days go on.
Why do you hate anyone who disagrees with Obama...
and/or supports McCain? Why IS that? Why does he inspire that kind of vitriol? I am an American, just like you, I can have an opinion...I don't attack you and call you names...I don't make up cutesy little terms like McBush...I am just an AMerican, just like you, who has every right to support the candidate of MY choice. You act as if I have no right to do that, and if I do, I am your enemy. Read your words. WHY do you react that way? Do you honestly think I am your enemy??
why are you mentioning Obama - why do you hate him so much...
you have an answer for everything, and everything you do is great. good for you. I find your lack of compassion rather disturbing. you sound so cynical. I never mentioned if I am a dem or repub, but the more I hear from repubs the more turned off I am.
anytime anyone comes on here with a differing opinion other than follow the herd blindly people like you try to bully them.
this is my last post - you may have the last word.
I don't hate Barack Obama. I just don't want...
the Unites Socialist States of America, and he does. He and I fundamentally disagree on denying medical care to infants surviving abortion. I don't trust someone who has the kinds of associations he has...I think it speaks to an agenda that I don't think is healthy for America.
That being said, if John McCain was a socialist and championed infanticide and the worst thing I could find about Obama is that he cheated on his wife umpteen years ago, I would be voting for Obama. It is not the man, it is the ISSUES, MT Pockets...the ISSUES, and what I (I cannot speak for others) want for ourselves and our country, just like you do.
I don't "love" John McCain. I do admire his service and what he went through for this country. I do believe he loves his country. I can't truthfully say I believe he same for Barack Obama. Even that is no reason to hate him; he is entitled to have his opinion of America. I don't hate him.
Obama has friends who both hate the country and
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How about the hate spewed at Obama's rallies?
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What if Obama didn't hate people like me? (sm)
I like Obama as a speaker, I think Obama is very intelligent and educated. I think Obama is very attractive. I like a lot of the ideas he has. I just cannot skirt around the issue of those he has associated with and the church he attended for 20 YEARS! I find it hard to believe he is not racist against me, a plain old white citizen. I think it doesn't matter that I have friends of all races, and that I love someone of another race. All that matters to his minister is that I am white and that makes him hate me, and if Obama didn't also hate me, and those like me, then why did he continue to attend that church and listen to the acid spewing from his minister's mouth for 20 years?  While I think it is horrible that our ancestors forced African's into slavery and treated them horribly, I didn't do it! I would never do it! I love everyone! Why do I have to be a victim of prejudice now, just because I am white? Why can't prejudice not exist either way?
I dont hate Obama, but he seems like a phony.
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Obama Haters will hate this post.
Remember Rush I-hope-he-fails Limbaugh?
All they want is fodder to support their ridiculous claims. They don't want to hear that he is actually succeeding better than expected.
That would explain why you slam Obama, hate Clinton
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People sucking lemons hate Obama.
Guess what...reality has already hit. Barack Obama was elected President of the United States, and he has already begun to undo some of the damage done by Georgie Porgie.
I hear there is a sale on lemons and sour grapes that you might be interested in!
And I gather that's what you're hoping to happen because you hate Obama.
OBAMA WON.So much for that poll on this board
I know some certain people were voting over and over for McCain. Well where are all the Palin lovers now? Eating crow?
Saw this on the main board, had to ask the Obama-ites here...
"We have a new administration coming in Washington in a few weeks already expressing a commitment to saving healtcare dollars by forcing an accelerated move to a nationwise EHR system. Will our work be in it at all? ? ? I've said it before, all it would take would be Medicare announcing in future it would no longer reimburse narrative-report costs to do away with most of our jobs within months."
Since a couple people have already told me I can't do my own research, I decided to go with that and just ask you know it alls if this is true or not....
For the last time, Obama was on a board with Ayers REPUBLICANS ARE STILL and
Obama's involvement was minimal and Ayers is NOT a threat to the US. After 911 were they looking at him? no.
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
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So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,
some respect?
You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*
Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.
You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.
That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS. Your posts don't show respect. They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.
You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?
Please. Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.
You're becoming quite a bore. You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight. You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board. Maybe that should work both ways.
Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all. You believe in SUPERIORITY. Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else. Sheesh! You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.
You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred.
In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate. I've seen them. (I hope you don't chase them away, too.) But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.
Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.
Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board
Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate. Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.
I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc. After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come. Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.
I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates. What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board. Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin. You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.
Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin. The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby. Talk about just bizarre comments. I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet? The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre. Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations. I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.
I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam. Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics. I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the” This childish rhetoric is getting old. I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics. If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.
I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming. She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good. Let people express his or her opinion and move on. If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement) 
I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right. If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.
I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates. That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason. I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.
If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face.
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.
To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.
Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.
This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.
The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
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the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred. It's not something I'd very proud of.
Politics board = political topics. Faith board = religious topics.
Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board. This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc.
The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions.
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Where is this coming from? sm
When you same something this inflammatory, this hateful, this destructive, and this untrue, you need to give a source other than your personal opinion.
No, I don't get where you are coming from.....
Did a gay/lesbian person EVER push their lifestyle on you? If so, they were simply classless people. I have never had that happen with couples (2 separate people tried to hit on me, same sex, but, they erroneously thought I was of the same ilk). What people do in their bedroom is their own business. I was raised in a small town, my family was well acquainted with several gay couples. One of the ladies was a very powerful deputy sheriff who commanded respect and who also owned half the town. She was one of the most intelligent, fascinating people I have ever met. I was raised to look at it as a non-issue. It didn't change who those people were. We loved them no matter what.
this coming from the
person who told another poster to "shut up" recently. War, economy, health care. We are dealing with horrific problems here.
Where are you coming from?
The post that Zville put up had only 2 responses besides yourself. How that has anything to do with "rabid Republicans" and the rest of your post is out of line. No one but you mentioned the different parties.
What is coming......sm
No need to check this out on Snopes because it won't be there. This actually happened to a friend's friend and my friend told me about it.
I ordered a pizza and when the delivery guy comes to the door I see he is an older guy. With a heavy accent he pointed to my yard sign and said "That is right, no Obama, yes McCain." I nodded in approval and said "Thats right!" and he went on to say "I lived 37 years under a communist government, and what is coming, is communism."
Now, if that don't scare ya straight, I don't know what will.
Coming to the top with you...
I just didn't want this message to get lost below.
This post is nothing but an opinion by an unidentified author from an obscure website. This website is run by a guy named Jeff Rense. He also does a radio talk show about UFO sightings. Nice research there partner!
no one is coming
since you are making a racist remark against whites, you need to know I am black and I too have a gun and ammo. You think only white people have that? And I too am a conservative and I suppose you would consider me right wing, if you want to give it a name. I am a God fearing person whom you call hyper-religious. I am against abortion and believe we have the right to bear arms.
Need to reassess your own views first.
The coming
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7901
where is this coming from - seriously? nm
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Isn't that coming anyway?
Government is getting more and more control over things. If they take control of everything.....what makes you think they won't tell us how to live, where to live, what we can buy, etc.
How would you like somebody coming
into your house and taking it away from you? Not every people accepts this, because it is wrong.
You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
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