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So true! I think Patty & Aunt Louise should go

Posted By: go & start their own bigoted forum elsewhere. on 2009-04-09
In Reply to: Oh, gawd, just when I thought - Mythbuster

All that narrow-mindedness and hatred really gets old.


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Jeez Louise, Just the big bad
cantya just let it go?
link for Louise
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/16/MN9T16DDOA.DTL
geez louise..
That was a very classy thing to do say, huh? Nice to know my fellow MTs are such kind and humane individuals.
Sheesh louise people.
For the love of pete.....the fact that Obama wants to raise taxes on businesses and the fact that it won't keep jobs in American because it will be cheaper to take their business to other countries.....that isn't fox news tabloid.....that is common sense. 
Hey Geez Louise - why didn't you say this
when it was started up above. The Palin bashing is getting old....very very old. Last I knew Palin is not the president, she and McCain lost the election, and she is not the president, and as much as the democrats want this to happen so they can destroy her personal life more, she is not going to be running for president or VP in the next election. She'll be actively involved in politics, which she should be. She is a successful governor whether the democrats want to believe it or not, but why didn't you say "Enough with the garbage" when the OP was making an attempt to belittle her.

The statement that Palin is called the leader of the GOP party is about as priceless as saying Rush is the leader of the GOP party. Two of the most hated people on the democratic side. But it doesn't make it true.

However, unlike the OP statement which is not true, this statement about appointing people who don't pay their taxes it true.

Let's try to be a little fair here.
slap..you're thelma......where's louise? nm

Geez Louise, I'm sure glad I have someone who can explain what I mean. LOL
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Geez, Louise. "Race riots". Well, ya know what?
Race riots will seem tame in comparison with what very likely will happen if we lower income workers get saddled with another 4 years of republicans in the white house! There has been 'chatter' about both physical and financial destruction of our entire monetary system and ensuing anarchy if the folks in the middle and at the bottom of the earnings pecking order get kicked too many more times. That would be far more destructive to the country than a piddly little 'race riot', as you call it.
Violation of International law for starters, Louise
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It's been all over the news about his aunt

and brother.


Does that mean all news media is wrong? I'm sure a few have verified the stories, but then ya never know with these people nowadays.


And BTW, GP, I'm with you on the food. You got me hungry for some good old-fashioned vittles.


Your great aunt..........sm
sounds like a wise woman.  Had America stuck to buying American made way back when, we wouldn't be in this mess right now.  And it is not just the car market.  While I agree that an automobile is a "big-ticket item" just look at all the "small-ticket items" that we buy every single day and think nothing of it........clothing, computers, shoes, appliances.......the list goes on and on.  America's greed for more, more, more has brought her to her knees.  I only hope she will be able to stand back up again, stronger and with more resolve to move forward than ever before.
Is Obama's aunt still
here illegally?
nonissue my aunt fanny

She was a member, in addition to her husband, spoke to their members telling them what a great job they were doing.  Obama was 8 years old when Ayres was running amok.  If SHE can claim exemption because it was in the past - good grief, so can an 8-year-old Obama..  Maybe one of SP's kids was 8 years old when she spoke to them and THAT makes it even-steven.  Twisting, twirling in the wind.


 


Geesh, my great aunt was ALWAYS

saying for years and years to BUY AMERICAN MADE PRODUCTS and that is all she does.  She says it keeps the jobs here in the US.  Whatever she buys, she has to look to see where it was made from.  I know some cars have foreign parts, but she then sees how much percentage of the product is American Made.  Shoot, they even drive around their American made cars with bumper stickers that say BUY AMERICAN PRODUCTS.  They always felt that other countries would destroy us, kind of like a cold war for us buying foreign made.  I think we did it to ourselves.   


I agree with you. As my great aunt always said
It is that simple.
My 88--year-old aunt goes sleeveless, duh
does that mean she is premenopausal. You people here are really sad.
You go girl!! I am part Japanese. My aunt will tell me sm
ALL that my grandmother had to go through to become legal. It can be done. If that woman is pregnant and is a resident of Mexico she should do the noble thing and return to Mexico.

Too many people in Texas (I have family there too) put up with illegals there. That will soon become a little Mexican-American nation and Spanish will be the main language because just like her, "why do you care??" Then what will they say about it?
Has she not heard the term that all it takes is just a little bit of yeast to work through the entire dough...It will happen eventually.
It's your reply to the post about Obama Aunt from
You always have a way of posting a view (on illegal immigration) with which I disagree, but always am able to better understand because you have that uncanny ability to strip away all the fluff and get down to the nitty gritty...sort of like Lou Dobbs, who I actually like to listen to except for his illegal immigration crusade, in spite of the fact that I am a left-wing commie!
Don't leave out shirley u jest, Aunt
......... and all the other little spur of the moment names she comes up with.
Obama's aunt from Kenya living in US illegally...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680/
Obama's Campaign to Return Aunt's Contributions.... sm

By Matthew Mosk
The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama will refund a small number of contributions made by Obama's aunt, who has been living in the United States illegally, according to a published report.


The woman, Zeituni Onyango, lives in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.


The Associated Press reported today that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya.


Obama campaign reports filed with the Federal Election Commission show Onyango gave $265 to the campaign. Foreign nationals are not permitted to donate to American presidential campaigns.


"Given the information that has been brought to our attention, the contributions are being refunded," Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, told The Washington Post this morning.


The campaign told the AP that Obama was not aware that questions had been raised about his aunt's legal status.


"Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," the statement said, according to the AP.


"No knowledge of her status."  Why does that not surprise me?  A man who is so "family oriented" and has such a wonderful extended family with which he goes to Kenya to visit and strengthen his roots with, yet he has no clue as to what their "status" is. 


TO PATTY: sm
I am a born again, Bible believing Christian. I agree that homosexuality is WRONG! I don't want my grandkids taught this stuff in school and I don't want them exposed to it if I can help it. The Bible says its an abomination.

I am also the mother of a gay, 35-year-old son. He knows how his family feels about it and he does not expose us to his boyfriends.

That being said, I think you are living in a box and are being very cruel. There are people being murdered and tortured all the time because they are homosexuality. Quite like the KKK who murdered black people. To say this doesn't happen is just a little peek into how really ignorant and uninformed you are.

Please see my other note to you about the so-called Rev. Fred Phelps out in Kansas. This man is no more a Reverend than I am. He is nothing but a hate monger who has a congregation made up mostly of his own relatives. It is nothing but a cult and a front for violence and hate against homosexuals. That is no more "christian" than homosexuality itself. Mr. Phelps and his "bunch" bring nothing but shame and reproach upon the cause of Christ.

With all that in mind, please, PLEASE wake up! Homosexuals are murdered every day in this country and all over the world by the same kind of hateful people who murdered blacks back in the 50s because they were black. The KKK was supposedly a "christian" organization too.

When I first started reading your posts I agreed with alot of what you said about homosexuality. But after you made fun of folks talking about how gays are killed all the time, it made me rethink. Your true colors are coming out and it is not very Christ like at all.

To Patty

Patty, first of all I would like to say that I also share in your views that homosexuality is wrong.  It is my religious right to feel this way, political right or just plain right of opinion and I would hope people would not attack me for my beliefs.  I just wish Patty that instead of getting yourself worked up you would pray for God to lead you in the direction that you could HELP people better understand the Bible and to better understand the pathway to Heaven.


Throughout the years Christians have gotten a lot of backlash as being hypocritical, judgmental and things along those lines.  A lot of people are on the fence as to whether or not they believe in God or believe in the Bible and then a Christian comes along that instead of being supportive and showing how much we and God loves them, they point out and chastise their sins.  That is what you are doing and I personally do not believe that any of your statements made on this board would make a person see homosexuality as wrong and choose to follow a path of God.


You make many statements saying that God tells you to hate the sin.  God tells us to be his servants.  Hating the sin Patty, would be you NOT committing this sin.  It is not you not buying particular music or you pointing out to everyone of such a sin.  If you are wanting to explain yourself, how about post the Bible versus you are referring to, pray about it and let people make their own decisions.  You cannot force your beliefs on anyone.


I understand that you said you would not buy this young man's music.  That is your right.  Would you sit by him if he came to your church?  Would you INVITE him to come to church with you?  How about invite him to Sunday dinner at your house after church?


My husband and I are both are very involved in ministry work and we have helped so many people with many different sins.  I never look at those people by what sins they have committed.  I do not want them looking at me by what sins I have committed either.  We are God's servants.  We are to serve him by bringing people TO him, by spreading His word, by showing them what joy it brings you to be a Christian and how happy we are to walk with the Lord.  We are not God's police to point out sins of others.  We are not to judge others.  We are not to imply that one sin would be worse than another one because they are all equal in our Father's eyes.


I will pray for you Patty and I will pray for understanding for other people as well.


Oh Patty! I also am a Christian and sm
I also know that homosexuality is against God's word and is WRONG. BUT to say that no-one is being killed over this, is living in a tunnel! There have been many stories of murders of folks just because they are homosexual.

To me, the worst example of this is the bunch out in Kanasas that go by the name of Westboro Baptist Church and the Rev. Fred Phelps! If this group could get away with murder, they would. But, I don't consider them a church at all, at least not a church as the Bible talks about, let alone a Baptist church. Tehy are nothing more than a hate group like the KKK hiding behind a church sign. This group brings shame and reproach upon teh name and the cause of Christ.

Please wake-up Patty, there are homosexuals being killed every day just because they are homosexual!

BTW, to open up a real hornest nest, I am the mother of a 35 year old gay son. I don't agree with him either and he knows it and in no way would I support his lifestyle choice. But I also don't want him murdered because he is living this way either.

I listened to your posts until you said "give us a break, you are breaking my heart." That head-in-the-sand attitude really breaks my heart. These posters are not making this up, many many stories of folks being murdered because they are homosexual.
Be very careful what you say, Patty. As
the mother of 3 young men, the oldest now 41, who were raised in church being taught the Bible is God's inspired Holy Word. Being their mom, I consider them "good boys." Let me tell you, over 41 years, I have had a pretty healthy diet of words. Unless you have walked in someone else's shoes you have no right to tell that person what you would or would not do because you have no idea what you would do. I'm sure MTTL has shed many tears and prayed many prayers over this. She is no more responsible for her son's sins as an adult as I am for my sons' sins as adults. This does not mean we stop loving them, that would be unnatural love. Please rethink your post.
Patty's not far from the truth of this...........
California has a tremendously LARGE population of gays and most gays know Christian beliefs do not approve of gay marriage; California has already shot that down even though some are still trying to push their agendas/lifestyle off on everyone else as acceptable.

It is no secret that the gay rights push out there is tremendous and no doubt a lot of hate for the Christian community, so if you think it's a far fetched idea that gays/lesbians are behind this, you really need to open your eyes. Bet if we could see behind the walls of their neighbors, you would find gays who know they are holding a Bible study and THEY are the ones that started this crap in the first place.

You're right, Christians have sat back and let this happen because we all get hammered when we speak out against homosexual behavior, but those that have spoken out against it in California will be subjected to being singled out and gays trying to cause trouble for them.....that isn't so far fetched to believe.

Friends of mine who live out there do say they too strongly believe gays reported this Bible study they didn't like in the first place and have strong reasons to believe this. They also know a great majority of those in political positions are gay and will do everything in their power to also push the Bible studies to stop..... period! Anywhere!


Patty, just get off this particular thread.

It is very obvious that you are a minority here and you're just trying to stir the pot, as you always do.  Nobody wants to hear your bigoted idiotic statements about something you know nothing about, so just keep handling your snakes and leave everybody else's sex life alone.  It is none of your business!!


I agree with you 100% Patty
I may not agree with you on a lot of issues but this is one I'm with you ALL the way.

Why they think it's okay to bash Bush and call him names, but the O is supposed to get a pass when he is doing harm/wrong to the country.

Kudo's to you for saying so.
Wrong! In the words of Patty

who actually did play the race card first: 


' I could be discriminated against too.....if I chose to be homo but I don't. Our sexual partner is a choice. Rosa Parks couldn't change her color and women can't cut off their vaginas. You CAN choose who you have sexual relations with. Now stop blubbering. You're making puddles.'


As Rosa Parks was a black woman who defied the law to sit in the whites-only part of the bus, I believe Patty brought up the race subject to which I was merely responding. 


Patty you are talking out both sides sm
of your mouth here! You label yourself a Christian but yet you tell your kids its "BEST" to wait til you find the person you want to spend your life with? If you believe what the Bible really says, you will teach those kids that God created sex to be within a marriage relationship. I know most folks are not going to like that but I am going by what the Bible teaches. If you are Christian then you should be teaching your kids what the Bible teaches. They may not agree but they will at least be taught.
Sorry, JTBB, I agree with Patty. I do not
believe everything what the Bible says, but I believe that homosexuality is wrong.
Not because it is written in the Bible, because it just IS. It always was and still is.
I do not hate them, I would never do something bad to them, I wish them all the best, but I just would not even socialize with them, especially as a mother with kids.
You're right about one thing, Patty.
Your mental disease is downright UGLY!!
Just wondrin' Patty: Who put you in charge . . .
of deciding what is a "sound" law or not?  LOL
Hey! I'll celebrate St. Patty's Day witcha!
:)
Patty, I like that...can I borrow your word, "asscream"?

xx


I am an atheist and yet I agree with Patty so find

a different name to call me.  In your small world you believe that anyone who is against O is a far right, Bible thumping conservative and that is just not the case, as I am proof of it.  Yes, I voted for him, worked on his campaign for 2 years because I truly believed every word that he spewed but with every passing day I regret that. 


Patty: that's what you are believing, you with your 'biblical, caged' mind..nm
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I was talking about the slander that is going on on this board! Wake up, Patty!..nm
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Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in PA

And is moving their plant to MEXICO.  It's situations like this where NAFTA should be renegotiated and remove any profit incentive for companies to take away American jobs like this.


Although I really like York Peppermint Patties, I don't think I'll continue to buy this product.


Hershey closing York Peppermint Patty plant in Pa.


By Associated Press



READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.




READING, Pa.: Production of York Peppermint Patties and other candy brands is coming to an end at The Hershey Co. plant in Reading.


After 23 years in Reading, the chocolate maker is closing the plant today and moving production to a new factory it has built in Monterey, Mexico. Hershey says it will mean the loss of about 260 jobs in the southeastern Pennsylvania city.


The plant also makes 5th Avenue and Zagnut candy bars and Jolly Rancher hard candies.


The nation's largest candy manufacturer announced two years ago that the plant would close as part of a wider move by Hershey to eliminate 1,500 jobs and one-third of its existing production lines, shifting more manufacturing to contractors in the United States.


Some workers will stay on for a few more weeks to close the plant.


http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/39968037.html


 


Patty: this baby hadmore than health problems, it had NO brain!...nm
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That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
Everything you said is true and can be

easily seen by just reading the board.


At least it can be seen by most of us.


But it IS true.
I saw a feature on it. They had videotapes of the recruiters coaching the kids on how to pass a urine drug screen.  It is absolutely true. 
I don't think that is true at all. sm
I think a lot of people are pretty sick of Cindy and her histrionics.  I don't see it as political at all.  A lot of people aren't going to sit by this time for another Vietnam where the antiwar crowd totally influenced the way the war was run.
Not true. sm
They are pro troops and pro Israel.  You are definitely not reading that board right. Is it the guns that offend you?  Or the war with Islamic radicals who all want us dead?  I mean, what EXACTLY offends you the most? 
LOL!!! Oh how true! nm

Not true
Re-upped?  He joined the military because all his friends did.  Read Cindy's description of how he got hoodwinked into going.  Re-upped?  No.
LOL. I like that...so true...nm
When in doubt, blame Clinton.
the true me
Happy and peaceful but when I deal with rabid conservatives attacking me..I attack back..Happy and peaceful in my life and in my beliefs, you bet, totally..I can sleep well at night cause I know my ideology/politics help people, I help people..I am an extremely happy peaceful accepting person..However, when I get attacked, I can give as good as I get..I do have to say, the net does not show the true person, so I dont see the true you and you dont see the true me..I have met people who I have only known in the net and when we met, we became friends..So I would take with a grain of salt the impression you get of people over the net..we are much more..
So true sm
That clip would be hilarious if it were not so true.  It is frightening how true it is.
It's true. SM
I remember Nan talking about it.  It was way way back when some of us used to put our e-mails on line here.