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Thanks. It's called sacrifice.

Posted By: CG on 2008-08-30
In Reply to: your back - weepaws

Baby did not ask to be here. I made that choice.


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well O did say that he felt his "fleet" of helicopters was fine and didnt really need a whole new fleet made.  They are reviewing this I think.  So there is his sacrifice for us.  He will gladly fly in an old fleet of helicopters for us.  How generous. 
Sacrifice is for the little people

Rank has always had its privileges. 


Obama talks about sacrifice, then jets off to New York for a date.  Gore talks about sacrifice, then flies around the planet on speaking tours (about saving the planet by reducing our carbon footprint) lives in a floodlit mansion on acres of clearcut land.  Talk about a carbon footprint!  Pelosi wants an air force jet at her beck and call to take her home to California on the weekends.  All of these politicians are doing the important work of talking about belt-tightening and sacrifice.  That's their job. Ours is to be inspired by this and tighten out belts.  Think of it as a division of labor.


And to answer another poster, yes, since the president lives in government housing and travels on government transport,  I actually do expect him to be on-call or on the job 24/7 for the next four years.  His government-funded travel should be minimal and necessary.  It is not necessary to fly his entire traveling show to the Southwest and stand in front of a solar panel array to sign a bill.  He can do that just as easily in the Oval Office at a fraction of the cost.


For the power and prestige, plenty of people would still be interested in the job, even under conditions of virtual house arrest...with no photo ops.  But those are not the people I would like to see running this country.  I would prefer a candidate whose only interest is serving the citizens of this country and allowing the country to right itself, without his fingerprints all over the process.  Any names come to mind?  Me neither. 


Bush's daughters and sacrifice
Do you honestly think anyone is buying yours or Cindy's Sheehan's argument that Bush ought to sacrifice his daughters and send them to Iraq?  If you all will wake up and deal in reality you will realize that no one has sacrificed their child.  Casey signed up VOLUNTARILY as well as every other person in Iraq right now, and the only way that the Bush daughters would go is if they VOLUNTEERED themselves.  Do you honestly think many people are buying this not so well thought out drama?   If you do then you're severely deluded as Cindy and the rest of moveon.pac.
McCain would sacrifice his country with
wanting to war with Iran and Russia.  He is absolutely crazy for war, but you rightwingers like fighting, war, death and bloodshed, so he's your man.  Might is not always right.
I'm not willing to sacrifice all the hard work

my husband and I put in over the years to get where we are (finally living half decently) just to give it to people who don't deserve it. Those who deserve help, hey, I'm willing to help, but those who don't contribute, they can go down the tubes for all I care.


Bash all you want, but that's how I feel, and I know there are plenty of Americans who also feel this way.


But can parent sacrifice their child to the military?

that was the question...


and No most of the country doesn't agree with the self-proclaimed martyr, Sheehan.


Forgotten Sacrifice...Good article...sm
Forgotten Sacrifice

By F. John Duresky
Wednesday, July 5, 2006; Page A13

A few days ago, as I do every day in Iraq, I listened to the commander's battle update. The briefer calmly and professionally described the day's events. Somewhere in Iraq, on some forgotten, dusty road, an insurgent fighting an occupying army detonated an improvised explosive device (IED) under a Humvee, killing an American soldier. The briefer fielded a question from the general and moved to the next item in the update.

The day before that, in America, a 15-year-old's incredibly rich parents planned the biggest sweet 16 party ever. They will spend more than $200,000 on an opulent event marking a single year in an otherwise unremarkable life. The soon-to-be-16 girl doesn't know where Iraq is and doesn't care. That same day an American soldier died in Iraq.

Two days earlier, a 35-year-old man went shopping for home entertainment equipment. He had the toughest time selecting the correct plasma screen; he could afford the biggest and best of everything. In the end, he had it installed by a specialty store. He spent about $50,000 on the whole system. He has never met anybody serving in the military nor served himself, but thinks we should turn the whole place into a parking lot. That day, another American soldier died in Iraq.

Three days earlier, some college students had a great kegger. There were tons of babes at the party, the music was awesome. Everybody got totally blitzed, and many missed class the next day. The young men all registered for the draft when they were 18, but even though our nation is at war, they aren't the least bit worried about the draft. It is politically impossible to conscript young people today, we are told. That day, another American volunteer died in Iraq.

Four days earlier, a harried housewife looked all over town for the perfect accessory for her daughter's upcoming recital. Her numerous chores wore her out, but she still found herself preoccupied. Her oldest son is having trouble in his first year of college, and he has been talking of enlisting in the Army. She is terrified that her child will go off to that horrible war she sees on TV. She and her husband decide to give their son more money so he doesn't have to work part-time; maybe that will help with his studies. That day, another soldier died.

Yesterday millions of Americans celebrated Independence Day. They attended parties and barbecues. Families came together from all across the country to celebrate the big day. Millions of dollars were spent on fireworks. At public events, there were speeches honoring the people who served and those who made the ultimate sacrifice. These words mostly fell on bored ears. While the country celebrated its own greatness, other Americans were still fighting in Iraq.

Today Americans go back to their normal business. The politicians in Washington have made sure the sacrifices of the war are borne by the very smallest percentage of Americans. They won't even change the tax rates to prevent deficits from running out of control. Future generations will pay the cost of this war.

Many Americans feel strongly about the war one way or another, but they aren't signing up their children for service or taking the protest to the streets. What can they do? It is they whom we in the military trust to influence our leaders in Washington.

Today, as on every other day in Iraq, American servicemen are in very real danger. Our country is at war. Mothers, fathers, wives, husbands and children are worrying about their loved ones in a faraway land. They all hope he or she isn't the one whose luck runs out today.

The writer is an Air Force captain stationed in Iraq.
What's it called?
It's called LYING.
Uh, maybe that's why it's called
What's more he/she/it started out with a sarcastic remark of *aren't we worthy*? You sound like crybabies. Liberal board is for liberal people. Now is that so hard?
Nobody was called (nm)

x


He should be called on this and often...nm
While he stands up there being the hypocrite he is.
I am the one who called him that. sm
I stand by what I said.  He may not have raped Kathleen Willey or Paula Jones, but he may as well have. I totally believe he did rape Juanita Broaddick. 
and you won't be called (nor have I)

They call mostly Democrats and "likely voters."  Rasmussen, Gallup, and Daily Tracking are the most reputable ones, but even so, I ignore them.


Also, keep in mind that being on the no-call list prevents you from being called unless I'm mistaken.


You called it yourself--- not me!
 Vote Away
He actually called him ......(sm)
a *house negro* as well as Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.  He also said he was no Malcom X and was betraying the Islam faith.  I haven't heard Obama's reaction yet, but I think it's kind of funny.  The terminology is outdated and laughable, and who wants to be like Malcolm X?    Was the reference to Malcolm X supposed to be an insult or a compliment?
It's called........... sm
disillusionment and resignation, GP. The more I read about the whole BC thing and now hearing that the SCOTUS has delayed the hearing another 5 days, I guess I am resigned to the idea that nothing is going to stand in the way of Obama....not the Constitution and not the voice of the people. I kind of look at the Constitution as I do the Bible and sin. A sin is a sin to God (excepting one) and breaking one part of the Constitution is breaking the whole thing. Call me gloom and doom if you want, but I have come to the realization that we are not living in a democracy or a republic. We are living in a political machine that operates at its whim without regard for our country's most basic foundations.

On the Clinton-Obama front, like I said. It should be interesting, to say the least, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Hillary is getting something more out of this than just the letters SOS out beside her name. There is more that goes on in Washington than is dreamed of by mere residents (I won't even use the word "citizens") of this once great nation.

Pardon my sardonic pessimism this morning. lol
That's called....(sm)
They'll get it however they can.  Check this out.  We have a double lot (just enough to keep me busy with a garden...lol).  When we bought the place there was a really old shed at the back of the property.  It was built probably about 40-50 years ago.  This thing was literally falling down, dirt floors.....completely in shambles and definitely not inhabitable.  We knew we would have to tear it down when we moved here.  So, we noticed on the assessment that 2K of the state assessment was attributed to that shed.  Yeah right.  We didn't need anything more than a sledge hammer and a crowbar to tear it down.  So, after we took it down we had them come out for a re-assessment.  They took $200 off the assessment value.  Hmmmm.....  Yeah, I raised cane with them but it didn't do any good.  I've been planning on putting a greenhouse out there.  I can't wait to see what happens with that.
No, that is just called being a
nm
That's called....(sm)
Let's scare the public into thinking the stimulus is evil.  What a joke!  That's almost as good as Steele saying the stimulus doesn't create jobs, it creates work.  Talk about grasping at straws....
Unless you would like to be called
the "c" word (4 letters ends with "t"), then I would think twice.

This is highly offensive to some people and you know this. Reading your post is like dealing with my children who are 5 and 6 years old. One instigates the other calling each other names to lure the other into a fight. The difference though is my 5 and 6 year old are more mature than you are and understand the concept of playing nicely and treating each other with respectfully. They understand if they've said something that hurts the others feelings they will say they are sorry. Something you obviously don't understand. And after reading that you adore and hang onto every word Keith Oberfool has to say and you let him tell you how to think and what to say and do, I had to read no further than your first sentence.

Posters on this board have been disrespectful towards others. You think your aiding your cause by calling us teabaggers? Think again. You think your aiding your cause by saying anyone who participated is a racist? Well the laugh is on you because in these crowds of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people I saw plenty of black people. Go ahead, tell them they are racist.

You know I do hope you keep it up, I do hope Oberfool an the other moe-rons at BSNBC keep having guests on like this piece of garbage Gorofool. You wouldn't see the truth if it slapped you in the face. Go ahead and laugh it up, because I'm right there smiling all the way to the elections next year. So go ahead keep calling us names. The laugh will be on you.
First of all, don't believe I called you

JTBB now did I?  I don't think so.  Secondly, I was being comical when I said I too have sleep deprivation, etc.  Loosen up a bit.  Dang.  I think you need to take a Xanax and chill out a bit.  Sheesh.


Regardless of my joking, which you obviously didn't get, I have no sympathy for people who want us dead. 


LOL, and you called me a bigot up above, so
x
GT, you have called me a bigot....
on this board at least 10 times.  Who's the one who generalizes here?  I can guarantee you that if I'm guilty, I'm certainly not alone.  Oh yes, all Republicans are rich and living behind gates, ignoring the plight of the poor.  Bull pucky.  Talk about a sweeping generalization.  I don't live behind a gate, I don't live in a fancy house, we make a decent income but are certainly not rich, and guess what?  We're not even religious.   You want equality for everybody?  Well, that isn't something that is given to you, it's something you work for.  My husband spent 7-1/2 yrs in college and got a master's degree, and worked his way through the whole thing at a gas station paying for it himself.  We work long hours.  There are people who refuse to value education, refuse to work hard, and just want a hand out.  That's a fact.  There have always been the poor and there always will be.  We've poured TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars into programs for the poor over the last 40 years and the poverty rate is basically the same.  To succeed takes effort.
It's called the TRUTH!!!

I think it's called the First Amendment.

The poster isn't *getting away* with anything.  He/she is exerting his/her constitutional right to form and voice an opinion.  Just so happens what the poster said is true about Bush having the Saudis being escorted out of the U.S., and if I remember correctly, some of those escorted were relatives of Bin Laden.


Like I said, the poster isn't *gettin away* with anything because the poster hasn't done anything wrong.   The person who has *gotten away* with a lot of illegal, immoral, unethical acts is Bush.


And *voila* had to be called down
Because he/she responded in profanity when her/his views were disputed. And know a lot PK. I know A LOT about your posting habits more than you could ever imagine.

Had they called me, there would be one more vote!

Yes, but we are the ones who are called intolerant. sm
Also, notice how the guys holding the sign have their faces covered.  Cowards all of them.
Which is exactly why Bush called for...
conservation...or a reduction in use of oil, in his state of the union address, not a complete changeover. You can't fix anything overnight, and scaring people into it and causing even more damage, as this article describes, is NOT the way to do it, and those hawking global warming KNOW that, but it is typical socialism ploy...you get everyone on board by screaming *they are trying to hurt you but WE will save you.* New cause, same song, second verse.
It's called fraud
I happened to get a call from the police in Arizona a few months ago. I have always lived in Ohio. It seems someone (several someones actually) had LISTS of people across the country of personal info, account numbers, passwords, email addresses, etc. pretty much everything you need, even machines to make the credit cards and license IDs. Arizona puts the fraudsters away just for having this info without your permission. Apparently they had a large fraud bust out there and they don't waste their time on proving what they did with it. YEA ARIZONA!
It's called Google. If you want to know...
information is there. I also have a dear friend who spent most of her life there.
It's called a debate...nm
.
Its called multitasking. :)
As to what I make...a living.
it's called recycling all the

talking points, trying to catch any newcomers to the political issues.


 


you called me indoctrinated and

claimed I have a poster above my desk.  those are personal attacks.  Do not attack me personally.  Stick to the issues as required on this board.


 


It's called the Amero...

The new currency will be called the Amero if they create the North American Union (the merger of Canada, USA, and Mexico). (Amero for the NAU and Euro for the EU.)  The deadline for the merger has been set at 2010. We will completely lose our national sovereignty. The U.S. Constitution, which has already been flushed down the crapper, will be completely moot. A Tribunal will replace the United States Supreme Court. Expect gun confiscation shortly before or after creation of the NAU.


Then again they may bypass that step and go straight to the wordwide currency, the Phoenix.


This stuff has been in the works for years. We have their documents... The globalist politicians have been consistently denying it (my Senators are two -- one of whom is McCain), but there are a few heroes in Congress. BTW, Obama openly supported creation of the NAU in an op-ed piece then turned around and feigned ignorance at a Town Hall meeting.


Since 2006 I have been called a "tin-foil-hat-wearing, paranoid conspiracy theorist" by countless sheeple. Unfortunately for all of us, soon enough they will see that my concerns were not unfounded....


Oh well, I did my part to try to sound the alarm. Too many Americans are dumbed down and complacent so there is no hope of saving her anyway.


Yes I can and it's called POVERTY
:
I have never been called since 2000
to be included in a national poll. I'm Democrat. I answer all phone calls JUST to have my voice heard. Why haven't they called me?
Back in the 50s that was called
"grading on a curve."  Hardly the same as talking about money.  If you're comparing CEOs to common workers, that's no comparison.  I don't think anyone is planning to take money from someone making $30 an hour and dividing it up between someone making $10 an hour so that both would be making $20.  That's stretching the "redistribution of wealth" a little far donchathink?  On the other hand I wonder if you were making $50,000 a year would you really, really object if the CEO who was doing a sorry job and was being paid say 1 million a year, were to have say a mere $25,000 tax deducted and "redistributed" into your pocket.  Anyone want to say they wouldn't be happy to take that little contribution?  No?  I didn't think so.
Someone called ME dense s/m
Reading comprehension.  I was not and am not talking about SMALL businesses.
I am sure I will be called a racist, but
I really think that all the fuel needed was for a black man to run for president. That said, my problems with Obama lie in his policies, not his color.
Getting the so-called facts from
MSNBC are ya?  Once again.....another example of the liberal media telling falsehoods.  Palin draws in very large crowds wherever she goes.
I have certainly been called worse.
x
There's a movie on TV right now, called....sm
"Mortal Storm."


The movie begins on the night that Hitler was appointed as chancellor in 1933.


There are a lot of parallels between then....and now.




That's all I'll say.


Yes, I have. It's a process that is called

"read and compare."  Read every link that is supplied, double-check to make sure nothing has been removed from the article that might change its meaning.  Read unfounded allegations and "fears" and the "I'm scareds" all over the board.


Now, if you can supply me a racist post that she's made -- which is what the accusation is -- please copy and paste it.  I will then "read and compare" and perhaps come up with a different conclusion.


If you're going to make a serious allegation against someone, at least have the documentation to back it up.


I'm still waiting.


So why did all those so-called investigations
Where's your vote fraud scandal now?
It is called more attacks like the one we went through
Do you actually believe the govt is telling us about each and every plot they help dismantle to make the country safer. Oooh- can I be in your fantasy movie.

People may hate GW - You know our "President of the United States", but Americans (the patriotic ones that is) are grateful for the policies that have been put in place that enable them to find out when things are happening so we will not endure another 911. Sorry you don't like the fact, but that's what they are.

I for one am very grateful we have not been attacked again.

"And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me. And I'll gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Cos there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the USA!"
Morpheus called

Keanu Reeves the same thing in the Matrix.  Are you sce-e-ered?


Better watch taking His holy words out of context to endorse your personal small-minded, hateful politic point.  Word is he don't take kindly to such activities.  You might face the Smotenator or even bullous pemphigoid.


 


its not called snooty
its confidence.  its about time we have some positivity and hope for once,at least in my life time.  I was too young to know about Kennedy but do watch a lot of documents on him.  I cannot wait for Obama to walk through those White House doors!
Another thing. Most of those so-called

jobs are temporary and only in certain areas of the country. What about the people in other areas of the country? They need jobs, too. What are they supposed to do?


We need permanent jobs, not temporary jobs and we need jobs in all areas of the country, not just large cities, or any city that has a federal/state building. Small towns need jobs, too.


I live in what used to be a thriving area. Everything is shut down because of NAFTA, except 1 garment factory. We used to have shoe companies. They're all gone. We had candy factories. I could go on and on, but I don't want to bore you; but do you get the jist of where I'm coming from?


I have family who have been called up....
rrrrrrrrrrrrr