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I not only have read it, I live it. Jesus also said "a physician is not needed for the well, but

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-01
In Reply to: Cyndiee, please read Matthew 28:18-20 - sm

I really do not see very much of that lately, just a spirit of pride, superiority, and many times hypocrivy,which Jesus abhorred and exhorted the Pharisees and Sadducees to be abolish in their hearts,,,you see, I have read and lived Scripture all of my life, but I try not to slam people over the head with it who do not have the same POLITICAL beliefs as I, I can make that distinction. We do not have churches in the Senate chamber, and we do not have Congressman from EITHER side conducting services.


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But a physician half-way across the country.... sm
cannot. That is the whole point of a centralized computerized system. Just because your hospital currently has such a system in place, as many do, does not mean that is the system of the future. Obama wants the health care record to be portable, meaning it can be accessed from anywhere the patient may need care.
I read the one only true Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was infallible Lord....sm
and I am not, and thank you for calling attention to that; I was paraphrasing Paul in his letter to the Hebrews, but my point is still from my heart, the deceptions that went on during the former administration are still causing ruin and death as we speak, and if you chose laugh at me, that is fine, The flamers on this board love to feign superiority, which I belive is against the Bible as Pride, one of the 7 deadly sins, no? I was asking if posters who want to make inflammatory, ridulous remarks could just TRY to confine their comments and posts to pure facts, and then political discussions can bear fruit and have some intelligence and merit. I am working hard as I am writing this, so forgive me if distracted. It is all just noise, rhetoric, and one-upmanship otherwise, while the country crumbles further. Thanks for correcting me, I will double check Mr. Dunniger's quotes.
Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


Yeah, tell me again how liberals want to live and let live....what a joke!!!! nm
why not just tell the truth? That only extends to liberals.*I have had it with Republicans...* a whole group of people tossed out like garbage. *I will not respond to your posts nor read them.*

As to Ann Coulter...the left has their share..Michael Moore, AL Franken...do you ever look at your own party?

That is the most INtolerant post I have seen here in a LONG time.

Liberals true colors always come out...regardless of how much they say they are the MOST tolerant, and want EVERYone to live and let live...everyone if you happen to be liberal.

We are all Americans...and America is about debate. Tell me, liberal Democrat, again how you care about ALL Americans. Talk about ringing hollow.
and all he needed was one win,

as he KNEW he would get it in 2004!!


I needed that :)

He got done what he needed to get done...
before he went back to Washington the only people who were represented in the so-called meetings were senators. There was no representation for the Republican side of the house of representatives. There was no "agreement in principle." The plan as it is now was not going to pass the house anyway, so it would have wasted precious time. We now have 4 guys with both house and senate represented hammering out the details. That is light years away from where it was yesterday, because when they come out in agreement, they will have a bill that will pass without delay. There is no good reason for him to miss the debate now. If he had not gone to washington and asked the president to bring ALL the leaders, house and senate, and he and Obama, this would not have happened. It brought the spotlight OFF the presidential campaign and ONTO the congress to get something done. I think he did exactly the right thing, no matter how the pundits on either side try to spin it. He still has my vote, even more solidly. That is the kind of man I want in the white house. Not one who will handle an emergency like a looming financial crisis with his blackberry instead of his presence in the name of multitasking. It did not take long for me to see where Obama's priorities are. With Obama.
To me he has been way short of Presidential in this issue, in my opinion.

Mccain did not care if it hurt his campaign or what people would think of him doing it...he did it because he realized the importance of a quick resolution and he acted on that. Again, put his country ahead of his political ambitions. Yes indeed, THAT is the attitude I want in the white house. If you prefer the blackberry approach, that is certainly your right.
Thanks, we needed that.
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sarcasm not needed really.

I just was not clear on her preference in this election.


 


that's okay - I just said we needed something in place nm
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Bravo to you, this needed to said on here because she
is the biggest hypocrite of all.
I know - sure needed a laugh here
Lifes too short to let things get to you. Of course people get mad (especially on this board), but after a few new posts it is forgotten. What really made me wonder was a post I read that said the OP was asking someone to be banned for what they wrote 3 or so pages back. Then when I read the witch hunt comment that's exactly what I thought too. Then when I saw both original post and reply I could not tell who was for what and who was mad about what, and it just got me laughing. I'm glad this is topic is turning humorous though. I'm reading all the funny posts and one thing I think all MTs have in common is a good sense of humor.
That made my day. I needed a lift. nm
nm
The mansion was over 100 years old. It needed...
to be upgraded. It costs about $10 a month to run a tanning bed, if that much. Costs more to run a clothes dryer.

Like I said, let's see what has been added to all the governor's mansions in the lower 48 and what THEIR electric bills are, shall we?

She is a maverick in that she does not run in lock step with her party, which is what that term means. While she is a former mayor, she is also a sitting governor, and it is as a sitting governor she is running for VP. More than a few sitting governors have also run for President.
ROFL. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
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HA, that was a good one. thanks for the laugh! I needed it!

I would say he has shown it to the people that he needed to -- nm
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The world needed a little humor, and once again,

Thanks! I needed a laugh today.

Yes, we needed the Arab Emirates...
to protect our ports! That was brilliant!! And look what a great job he's done with protecting our citizens and assisting them with the last 2 hurricanes. Heckuva job, Bushie! Don't forget to put Harriett Myers on the supreme court! He must be a brainiac! His instincts are superhuman! Mission Accomplished! - the way he landed on that ship - my hero! he even wore that banana hammock so well!! Woo-hoo! We must be the most admired country in the whole world!!
I found it. I just needed to change
It is something the individual states are doing and has nothing to do with a federal mandate to change the age limits.

**About 30 percent of Americans ages 19 through 29—13.7 million individuals in 2006—do not have health coverage.[2] No longer considered dependents, they often lose coverage at age 19 or upon high school or college graduation. In fact, 38 percent of high school graduates who do not attend college and one-third of college graduates are uninsured for some period of time during the year after graduation.[3]

Illinois is among a growing cadre of states trying to reduce the number of uninsured young adults by extending the time they can remain on their parents' insurance policies. Twenty-four states have moved from allowing insurers to set their own dependent age limits to defining dependent to include older children.[4] Most commonly, these states have extended the dependent age limit to "up to" age 24, 25, or 26. All states require the dependent to be unmarried. Some states set two age limits; for example, Idaho defines dependent as up to age 21 if unmarried, and from ages 21 to 25 if unmarried, a full-time student, and financially dependent on parents. New Jersey has set the highest age limit: young adults can retain coverage as dependents through age 30 if they are unmarried, uninsured, have none of their own dependents, and are either a resident of the state or a full-time student. To protect against the potential for young adults to wait to join their parents' plan until they need health services, New Jersey requires that young adults apply to continue coverage within 30 days from when they would have previously aged off of a policy, or during an open enrollment period.
Billions More Needed for Rescue?

 This is over and above the new so-called stimulus package.


In my local newspaper, it states "More proposals waiting in wings" then it goes on to state "The obama adminstration is developing proposals to help rescue the banking system that could cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars beyond the $700 bililion bailout Congress already has approved.


Details are still being worked out but the administration is looking to spend hundreds of billions more to address the foreclosure crisis, help banks get out from under weighty bad assets and expand liquidity programs."


I'm really starting to get sick literally over this. We can't spend billions of dollars when the money isn't coming into the treasury.  We can't printing money without anything to back it up.


If any of you think these packages will not help the economy, please, I'm almost begging you, email or call your reps and get it stopped.


 


Thanks - I needed a laugh (no message)
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I don't think we'll see what is needed in this country.....sm
...until we look beyond the Republican and Democratic parties. They've simply become self limiting, and the country switches back and forth between them.

I honestly believe we need to look at independent candidates who have NO ties to either party in order for this country to move forward and dig ourselves out from under.....if that's even possible at this late date.
You're welcome, PK. Needed a laugh after so much bad news.

Storm track is not the only news needed.
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I needed a good laugh today.
LOL!!!  This was great.  Thanks for posting it. 
Thanks for that . . . I needed a good laugh today

HAHA


Thank you for that .... I needed a good laugh today.

Bush tell your daughters they are needed in Iraq for a *noble* cause
Oh really, going off the deep end, LOL..by asking Bush and his daughters and other young people in his family to sign up for duty in Iraq since the Bush family thinks it is so important and the *Noble* thing to do?  And Im going off the deep end, LOL.  You are so silly sometimes in your posts.  I see nothing wrong in asking the chickenhawk warmongers to urge their children to join up..after all our country is fighting a *war on terrorism*..or..wait a minute..what is the new saying the WH is throwing out there..*a global war on extremists*..or....oh geez..I need to start writing down the reasons for our blood shed in Iraq..I cant remember all the reasons why we pre-emptively invaded Iraq..Cant keep up with the spin cycle of the WH..
And during a time when Arab linguists are needed the most by the military --

This could actually be funny if it wasn't so stupid.  The question Do you work off duty with the local community theater? speaks volumes.


Servicemembers Legal Defense Network: Army Dismisses Gay Arabic Linguist 'Outed' By Anonymous Email Campaign


7/27/2006 11:02:00 AM





To: National and State Desks


Contact: Rebecca Sawyer of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, 202-328-3244 ext. 102 or rasawyer@sldn.org


WASHINGTON, July 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The U.S. Army recently discharged a highly regarded Arabic linguist who was the target of an anonymous email outing campaign. Former Sergeant Bleu Copas was stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., and was a member of the prestigious 82nd Airborne Division. A decorated Sergeant who received impressive performance reviews, Copas also performed in the 82nd Airborne Chorus. His dismissal, under the federal Don't Ask, Don't Tell ban on lesbian, gay and bisexual personnel, brings the total number of Arabic language specialists dismissed under the ban to at least 55. Neither Copas nor his command know who was the source of the email campaign.


'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' has become a far too effective, and convenient, weapon of vengeance in our armed forces, said Sharra E. Greer, director for law and policy for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), which provided legal counsel to Copas. Anyone with an axe to grind -- a former partner or roommate, or an angry relative, for example -- can end an otherwise promising career simply by employing rumor and hearsay. Service members like Sergeant Copas, who are making important contributions to our national defense, are finding themselves increasingly vulnerable under the law. The only way to protect our men and women in uniform from such insidious outing campaigns is to repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' once and for all.


In August 2005, an anonymous individual emailed Copas's unit, alleging there was an online profile of a unit member identifying them as gay. Despite clear instructions that investigations into sexual orientation are only to be commenced when a service member's command has credible evidence indicating the service member is gay, Copas's command nonetheless asked him about his sexual orientation and went on to launch a full investigation into allegations about him. The command-appointed investigating officer interviewing Copas asked such questions as, Do you work off duty with the local community theater? and Do you know or are you aware of anyone who believes you are a homosexual? He also recommended conducting an inquiry ... into the possibility of further homosexual conduct by member(s) of the (unit). Despite never learning who made the original allegations against him, Sergeant Copas was dismissed from the Army in January.


The ban on gay service members serves no purpose except to further discrimination at the expense of our military readiness, said Copas. Most troops care about their colleagues' job performance, not their sexual orientation, and this law is past due for repeal. Those of us who want to serve our country should not be barred from doing so simply because of outdated prejudice. The gay ban punishes every service member, even those who never tell and the straight troops who lose trusted, and trained, fellow soldiers.


Since 1993, more than 11,000 service members have been dismissed under the gay ban, according to the Department of Defense. A February 2005 report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reported that the Pentagon has fired 322 language specialists who had ... skills in a foreign language that DoD had considered to be especially important. The report also found that nearly 800 specialists, including intelligence analysts, divers and combat controllers, were fired despite having some training in an occupation identified ... as 'critical.' The House of Representatives is currently considering legislation to repeal the law, with 118 bi-partisan members supporting the measure.


For more information on Don't Ask, Don't Tell, visit http://www.sldn.org.


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Servicemembers Legal Defense Network is a national, non-profit legal services, watchdog and policy organization dedicated to ending discrimination against and harassment of military personnel affected by Don't Ask, Don't Tell and related forms of intolerance. For more information, visit http://www.sldn.org.


http://www.usnewswire.com/


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/© 2006 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/


Common sense needed, not book smarts
I'm sorry but we have had too many SMART people running this country...what we need is some people with COMMON SENSE running this country.  I have worked with people from lawyers, to doctors, to laborers when I waitressed and the smartest people don't have a lick of common sense.  THAT is what is wrong with our government, no common sense and no real life experience.  You show me 1 politician who has ever worried about their house payment or car payment or who has had $10 left in their checking acct at the end of the month-you can't because their isn't 1.  They do not understand the average joe because they've never been the average joe.  So how can they help us?
Jesus
I had a long reply typed, but lost it when it wanted me to edit H*LL as a "bad word!" Sigh...

Anway, yes, I do believe that Jesus existed, he was a Jew after all, lol. Most Jews don't believe he was the Messiah and are still waiting for the Messiah so that we can be "gathered" with our ancestors.

I personally believe, though many Jews believe differently, as do many christians, that "heaven" is being "with G-d" feeling his presence and guidance in our lives. H*ll is being absent from G-d, which can happen at any time in our lives. I've got to get back to work, but I will try to post more later.

Yes, sometimes I do take offense at the world assuming that I want to take part in every christian thing or that christmas is a big deal to me (it is no deal, except I usually get a day off of work or some good overtime pay!) Though it bothers me sometimes, I have never asked that it go away, but some days in December, I would like to be able to go to the mall without hearing carols and seeing Santa.
Jesus again
Yes, I believe he lived and was crucified. Don't believe he rose again. Most Jews believe only the old testament, but many study the new testament also.

As for believing the bible, no I don't think G-d can be wrong, but man certainly can, and the Jewish Old Testament is a good bit different from the several christian bibles that are around. Bibles are translated by humans, which can and do make mistakes, interpret things their way, etc.

Jews usually study Hebrew, so we can study texts in the original form. Many christians accept the bible as "the word" without ever studying how it came about, what concessions were made in each version. Reformed christians rewrote the bible because they believe the catholic version was incorrect. King James rewrote it so he could get a divorce (more or less). There are several books that were never included in the new testament, or that are in some bibles and not others.

One of my dear friends is a PCUSA minister and she spends a lot of time studying different translations of both new and old testament and there are a lot of inconsistencies and flaws in many versions of the bible and this is why some people don't take it as "gospel" (pun intended.)
Jesus

Jesus is the Messiah and he did rise after three days.  GOD ( I will spell it out) is perfect and infallible.  If he wanted a book written through mankind about his life, love, way to live, and about his son Jesus Christ, I think he could manage for that book to be written without mistake.  It is called FAITH.  It is a shame that in this world today no one seems to have any. 


One day soon, every one will see that Jesus was and is the son of God and that you will ONLY get to heaven by accepting his free gift of salvation.  The rest will go the h*ll


Jesus said it, not me.
Jesus said many times that He was the only way. I don't really care for denominations, but yes, I believe only those that accept Jesus as Lord and Savior will "get through the pearly gates".

It's not hypocrisy. Islam is a false religion, therefore I would not want to live under their law. Not to mention you can forget all the freedom (such as being gay, abortion, etc) under their law. They'll just cut your head off instead.


Yup, the Real Republican Party will rise again....new blood is definitely needed, that's for sure

No more of a radical than Jesus was.

:)


I'm not sure what you're getting, but do you think Jesus
would have wished assassination on anyone?

Like I said I quite enjoyed the shows until I found myself listening to Pat spew his political spin as if he were speaking for Christ himself. THAT'S what I don't agree with, and I'm obviouslly not the only one not tuning in. Did you read the article???? The show barely raked in 1.3 mil in profits last year. Why??? Because it is an off year for the republican party.

Jesus loves and cherishes his followers and those who do not. He loves and cherishes all of Gods' children. I wouldn't even attempt to make a comparison of Jesus to the likes of people who use His name to advance their OWN agendas.


So pretty much Jesus would be like,

that's hilarious.  Of course I can't say what He would do or say and neither can you, but didn't He teach to take care of those that can't take care of themselves?  It is very hypocritical of you to talk about a country that murders millions of babies being morally wrong and in the same breath say it's okay let children die or suffer because their parents could not afford (or chose not to purchase) good healthcare.  It's not the kids' fault if they got irresponsible parents or parents that were not in the upper-middle class.  Should they suffer for their parents' sins/shortcomings?


Jesus and the Democrat

A Republican in a wheelchair entered a restaurant one afternoon and asked the waitress for a cup of coffee.


The Republican looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus sitting over there?"


The waitress nodded "yes," so the Republican requested that she give Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.


The next patron to come in was a Libertarian with a hunched back.


He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a cup of hot tea.


He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, "Is
that Jesus over there?"


The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of hot tea, "My treat."


The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches.


He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, "Hey there, honey! How's about getting' me a cold glass of Miller Light?"


He, too, looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that God's boy over there?"


The waitress once more nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold glass of beer. "On my bill," he said.


As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed."


The Republican felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.


Jesus also passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed."


The Libertarian felt his back straightening
up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of back flips out the door.


Then Jesus walked towards the Democrat. The Democrat jumped up and yelled, "Don't touch me .. I'm collecting disability."


Was Jesus a socialist?...sm
On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come, enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?" And Jesus will answer them, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of these least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!"
Was Jesus a Socalist? ......sm

Was Jesus a Socialist

by Ralph Brandt, Jan 21, 2007


This is a comparison of Jesus to a Socialist.

There is a significant difference between Socialism and Christ.

Jesus said, "Give to the poor."

The socialist says, "We tax you so we can give it to the poor."

The one is voluntary giving, the laying down one's life (in the form of labor and money). The other is being taxed - that is the money is forcefully taken. I am sure that some will argue this is not forcefully taken but look at what happens if the tax is not paid. It will eventually come to it being taken by force. The tax man will come, then the police (in some form) will come. Either the money or liberty will be forfeited.

Jesus said, "Give to the poor." This act is one that benefits the giver and the recipient. The giver does it out of love and duty. The recipient gets something that is handed to him by a willing giver. That attitude does wonders for both.

The socialist says, "We tax you so we can give it to the poor." The taking of taxes certainly is taking money in a way that the "giver" is generally not a willing participant. In the spirit this taints the money no matter where it is disbursed. The forcible taking places the person giving the money as not being blessed for giving because they are not willingly given. I believe if we willingly give money that goes to taxes that are used to help the poor we have a reward for that just the same as if we gave it privately. And if the person gives the taxes grudgingly there is no reward for it. The way the money is disbursed is degrading to the recipient. They are actually encouraged to lie to get what they need. The system is one that steals from the one taxed and the recipient. It steals money and reward from the taxed and the respect, dignity and at times the honesty and integrity from the recipient.

Jesus never did anything that degraded or stole....

Socialists do it routinely.

Anyone who compares the two as being alike is either a fool or a liar - depending on whether he or she knows the truth or not.




http://www.socyberty.com/Politics/Was-Jesus-a-Socialist.13750
Victory in Jesus

I heard an old, old story,
How a Savior came from glory,
How He gave His life on Calvary
To save a wretch like me;
I heard about His groaning,
Of His precious blood's atoning,
Then I repented of my sins
And won the victory.


Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.

I heard about His healing,
Of His cleansing pow'r revealing.
How He made the lame to walk again
And caused the blind to see;
And then I cried, "Dear Jesus,
Come and heal my broken spirit,"
And somehow Jesus came and bro't
To me the victory.

Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.

I heard about a mansion
He has built for me in glory.
And I heard about the streets of gold
Beyond the crystal sea;
About the angels singing,
And the old redemption story,
And some sweet day I'll sing up there
The song of victory.


Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.




We just did this one Sunday at church! Funny you should mention it!
Jesus and the Democrat

Jesus and the Democrat


A Republican in a wheelchair entered a restaurant one afternoon and asked the waitress for a cup of coffee. The Republican looked across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that Jesus sitting over there?'


The waitress nodded 'yes,' so the Republican requested that she give Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.


The next patron to come in was a Libertarian with a hunched back. He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a cup of hot tea. He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that Jesus over there?'


The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of hot tea, 'My treat.'


The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches. He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, 'Hey there, honey! How's about getting' me a cold glass of Miller Light?' He, too, looked across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that God's boy over there?'


The waitress once more nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold glass of beer. 'On my bill,' he said.


As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him and said, 'For your kindness, you are healed.'


The Republican felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.


Jesus also passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, 'For your kindness, you are healed.' The Libertarian felt his back straightening up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of back flips out the door.


Then Jesus walked towards the Democrat. The Democrat jumped up and yelled, 'Don't touch me .. I'm collecting disability.'


 


 


Are you say Jesus was pro choice?
Suffer the little children to come unto me.

Honey, you need to get yourself a real Bible. Apparently yours is missing a few important chapters.
The Jesus that I know was very close to...sm
Mary Magdelene a prostitute. He did not agree with her profession, but he loved her and saw her value apart from what she did to survive. Things are not ever just black and white, good and bad. Because Obama does not agree with you on certain heartfelt beliefs does not mean that Jesus would not support him in his efforts to bring peace to the world.
Sham: a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax. No spellcheck needed.
Maybe you should stop worrying about petty bunk and face the issues.

SHAM!
I agree, doubt she would stoop to that. Maybe she needed a break. Or gave up hope. nm
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Those of us who take Jesus Christ as our saviour.
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PLEASE take Jesus Christ as your Savior >>>
Take him the hell out of everyones politics, you narrow-minded ignoramus.