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Three months after birth of baby Trip, SP's daughter and boyfriend kaput!

Posted By: Really? on 2009-03-12
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Now did anyone see that coming or is that just something out of the blue? My goodness, would have never believed that. They really seemed like good heads on their shoulders, graduates, college bound, career-minded, responsible. Really shocking to me.


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Did Palin's daughter actually give birth to the child?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223



 


as a mother I would not subject my baby, or anyone's baby
to that type of situation. but then again, I am not the kind of mother who agrees with the village raising the child, or whatever Hillary used to say. to me the child's safety would come first above and beyond what I was doing, and I would not expose the baby to all that. that is just me.

mostly I am talking about at the end of her speech when the baby was being passed around and then she eventually grabbed him, half paying attention to him.

it is my opinion but I found it a little troubling and my heart kind of went out to that little baby.
My mom's boyfriend used to take me

to the local high school where they had a firing range and taught me to shoot all calibers of handguns. I couldn't handle the 44 Magnum, though. Too heavy.


Anyway, he did it because DH was going to be away for 3 months and he thought I might need protection. I was a good shot, too. Hit the bull's eye quite a few times. I took all the targets home and taped them to my windows and doors with a little sign "This may happen to you if you enter without permission." Never had a problem.


I wish he would have willed me a handgun, or else given me one. I really liked the snubnose 38. I want to get one, but can't afford it. . . .and by the way, I WOULD use it if necessary. Better them than me.


I know. It's heartbreaking. My ex-boyfriend's...

son was born with Agent Orange.  He's extremely mentally challenged and has a severe cleft palate.  He is the sweetest boy with the biggest heart, and I'm very grateful for having had the privilege of knowing him.


Vietnam vets got treated very badly by America on many fronts.  At least, hopefully Americans have learned a lesson by separating the politics of the war from the soldiers themselves.  Any time I meet a "Nam vet," the first thing I say is, "Welcome home."  Just those two words bring tears to their eyes frequently.


We've (I hope) gotten smarter and realize these soldiers are putting their lives on the line for us, and it's the Commander-in-Chief who is ultimately to blame (or praise) for the orders given to these soldiers.


No boyfriend sleepovers for parents in Michigan...sm
Dad Pans Girlfriend Sleepover Ban

DETROIT, Dec. 22, 2005










 (AP / CBS)


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This antiquated law allows the state to unconstitutionally interfere with a parent's relationship with his or her children.




Kary Moss, executive director, ACLU of Michigan



(AP) A divorced father will fight a ruling that keeps his girlfriend away from their Michigan home when his children visit overnight, the state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said Wednesday.

The ACLU said it would appeal to the state Supreme Court on behalf of Christian Muller, whose ex-wife sought the court order based on an 1838 state law that makes lewd and lascivious cohabitation a crime. Michigan is one of only seven states with such a law on the books, the ACLU said.

This antiquated law allows the state to unconstitutionally interfere with a parent's relationship with his or her children, said Kary Moss, executive director of the ACLU of Michigan.

Muller shares legal custody of his two daughters, ages 5 and 7, with his former wife, Nicolette Muller.

Oakland County Judge Daniel Patrick O'Brien ordered that both parents be prohibited from having overnight visitation with their children when they have unrelated overnight guests of the opposite sex.

The latest appeal argues that the Court of Appeals decision conflicts with its prior rulings and with the Child Custody Act of 1970, and relies on an unconstitutional statute — the 1838 state law.

Elizabeth Silverman, an attorney who had represented Nicolette Muller, said Wednesday her services had not been retained for the latest appeal.

A home telephone number could not be found for Nicolette Muller, who lives in southeastern Michigan.

I feel sorry for her poor boyfriend - how do you spell
Her poor daughter probably wouldn't be in the preggers predicament if mamma had taught her about birth control instead of 'abstinence'.
The boyfriend's My Space page disappeared too. nm
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The boyfriend never graduated high school.
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Aww dang it! I looove polar bears. My boyfriend will fix that too! nm
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Wonder if this is her first trip
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Mr. Obama's trip

I don’t have time to watch the news but I try to when I can.  Before Mr. Obama took the trip, they were talking a lot about Mr. McCain and how many trips he took.  I think it made Mr. Obama feel like he had to go there.  I remember Mr. McCain saw all those military people since he wants us to stay in Iraq.  Mr. Obama talks about diplomacy a lot so he met with all those leaders because he wants to stop the war.  I don’t understand why you are talking about Mrs. Obama.  The news people talk bad about her too.  She said she didn’t mean what some of those other people thought she said.  I don’t like to hear all the negative things.  They make everything more confusing.  I like to listen to the candidates tell who they are and what they would do if they are elected.  Mr. Obama talks about what he wants to do for the country on his web site and in his speeches.  I guess that advisor made a mistake but somebody corrected him.  I like the town hall meetings.  People get to ask questions there.  Thank your reply.


You guys are a trip...

Maybe I'll send him some money because I can't believe he's not spending more.  Oh maybe he's frugal...  Darn it! 


Dear Mr. President (Barack or is it Barry):


CHEERS!!! 


Sincerely,


A voter who is all for the CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!! 


O's trip to Riyadh

Did you see the gold necklace O got from King Abdullah?


Wow!  It is ver long and looks very heavy and it is at least 18k if not 24k.


The box alone is big as a table!


An appropriate gift for O !


Obamaramarama trip
Yeah, isn't that nice. I am glad we were asked to pay for this. I am not surprised. They are liars and they are the worst example of leadership this country has ever seen. What Americans are waiting for, I just don't know. They don't seem too concerned about Korea either. He will do what he did with the Pirates. After the Navy took over and cleaned up, he stepped up to the plate to act as if he was there all along; while he was actually mustering up his communist friends acceptance and friendship for his own hidden purposes. So much for his promises. I guess, NO HE CAN'T AND WON'T.
Did ya ever think it could be a school field trip?

Most high school kids don't get a chance to see a presidential until they are of voting age.


I don't put any faith in anything MSNBC writes or talks about. They are are for the O.


Obama's trip to Hawaii.
So you would have Obama take is chidren out of school in the middle of the week, fly them 4250 miles on a 10-hour plane trip for a jet-lagged 1 day sick bed visit with a bed-bound frail elder who was released from the hospital with a broken hip just 2 short months after they had spent quality time together on a private family vacation, when GM was probably looking a whole lot better than she does now? After that, you would have him turn right around the next day and take another 10-hour 4250 mile plane trip back home while trying to come up with answers about "what's wrong with grandma"?

There is a very strong possibilty that these children will have their lives changed forever next week should they become the nation's first family. They will be thrust into the bright glare of media scrutiny, pack up all their things, leave the only home they have ever known, say goodbye to all their friends and prepare to take off for DC in the middle of the holidays and move into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be greiving the loss of their grandmother in the middle of all that.

If these were my children, I would want to presevere the memory of the family vacation and protect them from premature greiving over the impending loss. I feel sorry for people who live in such a hateful frame of mind all the time that they could be so thoughtless as to not even consider what they might be doing with their own children in a similar circumstance.
Bush couldn't orchestrate a trip to
the bathroom.
Memo to Hillary: Road Trip!

Memo to Hillary: Road trip to that place between King City and Coalingo


Dear Hillary:


I know you've been real busy with sniper fire and 3:00 a.m. phone calls, etc., but have you ever seen that commercial for AT&T internet service, where the guy says he's on the road between "King City and Coalingo" (sp?) (There are several commercials out there for this product, and the theme for them is people's "moments.")


In the one I'm referring to, there's a guy is standing near a big field with a bunch of cows, explaining how his service lets him do business anywhere, and after he's through explaining how it works and how his bid was the first one in, he gets a text message and says, "It looks like I got the account."


An old man appears and says, "Congratulations on your moment."


Hillary, PLEASE drive yourself have your chauffeur drive you (with or without your cell phone) to that field "between King City and Coalingo" and take a L-O-N-G walk through that field. (Be sure to fill up have one of your servants fill your gas tank first.) Pet a cow or two. Resist the urge to whip out that gun yer granddaddy taught you how to shoot if you become hungry for a filet mignon; maybe you could make a have your maid make a PBJ before your departure (you know, the kind of food that more and more of us hard-working white people are forced to rely on in today's economy). Along the way, don't be afraid to step into the very thing that comprises your soul. Take a deep breath (lots of them). Try to place yourself into Barack Obama's shoes (sans cow dung) and explore WHY it is that YOU believe you must control everything -- even when you're the loser. Why is it that YOU think YOU get to dictate the terms of everything, even if you don't have the right to do so?


You have repeatedly said you're "in it to win it." You didn't win it. Now pretend to have some grace and/or just some personal decency and do NOT try to strong-arm the person who DID win it. There are a lot of women who would be good Vice Presidential candidates, all of whom believe in and would be loyal to President Obama, none of them potential orphan-makers.


Take a good, long look at those cows, Hillary. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about "moments." Hopefully, you'll even learn a thing or two about yourself.


Edited by Moderator for aggressive and strange language.


Errr, that was a trip abroad, not a campaign.
Remember when McSame dared him to go and then it backfired because O came out of it smelling like a rose and McSame ended up with egg all over his face? He even made a lame attempt to compete with O that week for media coverage by meeting the Dalai Lama in the middle of the primaries. Last time I checked, the Chinese don't vote either.

Obama was able to casually win the Iraqi govt support for his troop withdrawal plan, looked very diplomatic in Israel when he assured them of continued US support and managed to attract over 200,000 folks in Berlin without batting an eye. See what happened when McSame let campaign bluster, bravado and underestimation of his opponent cloud his strategic judgment?

A red flag would go up for you if the bread on the left side of the toaster came up before the right. You'd have to go measure all the angles and consult the Gemetrial and Bible Code implication of it all.

About that writing on the wall? Probably just another visual hallucination. Pay it no mind. It's not real.
They forgot to mention what it was for & Afghanistan was part of the trip-a lot for 1 wk

Indeed, in a February 17 article, the ANSA English Media Service reported (accessed from the Nexis database): "Since arriving in Italy on Saturday, Pelosi has visited the American air base at Aviano in northeast Italy and the American military cemetery in Florence and is due at the NATO Joint Forces Command in Naples Wednesday." Further, a February 19 press release issued by Pelosi's office stated: "Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Congressional delegation today were briefed by U.S. Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe and Africa, and Commander of Allied Joint Force Command Naples. Admiral Fitzgerald and his NATO staff provided information on NATO activities in the Balkans, the ongoing training of Iraqi Security Forces, and operations against pirates off the coast of Somalia." The release further stated: "On Saturday, Speaker Pelosi and the Congressional delegation visited Aviano Air Base where the Speaker pinned the Bronze Star Medal on Technical Sergeant Phoebus Lazaridis for extraordinary service in Afghanistan. The delegation paid their respects to the more than 4,400 American World War II soldiers buried at the Florence American Cemetery on the outskirts of Florence on Sunday."


On February 21, Pelosi released a statement about her trip to Afghanistan, in which she said, "For the past two days, I have led an eight Member House delegation to Afghanistan to visit U.S. troops," during which the delegation "met with U.S. military leaders, and the U.S. Diplomatic team in Kabul to better assess the best course of action to further our national security interests in preparation for the completion of President Obama's strategic review of the Afghanistan policy" and "met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is sending his own advisors to Washington as part of the review process."


It was a campaign trip abroad, dear sm....plain and simple.
perhaps he accomplished what you say he did, in your eyes. But it was definitely a political trip. A global political trip, no doubt about it.

McCain is ancient history. I'm kinda glad he didn't get elected, as he's shown his true colors of late.


And your third paragraph? Nice try, dear.
my daughter is getting

her Master degree in business.   She has a beautiful little 4-year-old son born in wedlock. I a progressive politically.  Boggles the mind doesn't it.


 


I would say that if my daughter...(sm)

did a study group at home but couldn't accommodate parking without bothering her neighbors, then she needs to get her behind out and go to a library or something.


I'm not saying that it's the neighbor's fault.  At this point what all of us know about this case is speculation, and that amounts to squat.  So at this point we don't know if they just had mean neighbors, or if the couple was in a war with the neighbors, or if it was or wasn't a hit against christianity, or about 100 other things that could have played into it.  That is the point of my post....to point out that this could be the result of a lot of things, not necessarily just to get at christians.  I think way too much has been assumed in this thread about the situation.


I have a soon to be 9-year-old daughter and
pregnancy and the allowance of it most certainly does concern me especially when McCain is in his 70s and not in the best of health already.  Yes, I was raised with family values and yes this absolutely does concern not only me but my husband as well.  Yes, this is a big focus right now on Governor Palin and her family values.  I'm only one voice, but one voice that is concerned about this teenage girl and it being "allowed" and "accepted."  This goes against any core family values I've learned my entire life.  Does this mean it's okay for her daughter?  Does this mean that this candidate will just "ignore" issues if she had to step in as President blaming us the country and not herself for her own misjudgements or her own "oversites?" 
God bless your daughter..
for having the bravery and the courage to serve and protect us!  May God keep her safe and protected and return her safely home!
My daughter had to take out loans
and work to save money for school. No Pell Grant for her because we make too much money. I guess my money went toward your schooling. Why didn't you just take out loans instead of being handed money from government?
If his daughter is allergic, they may have to get
hypoallergenic trait in poodles and some other breeds is dominant and carries over to the cross-bred offspring.

I think a big, Standard Poodle would be a great First Dog! They are so much fun, yet calmer than the small dogs, and not yippy. Easily trainable, too.

But it would be cool if they could get a shelter dog. Talk about good fortune for some poor, down-and-out dog... to go from the Pound to the President's dog!
My 14-year-old daughter.
The girls were together one night at a friend's house. They heard it through school that Obama family do not believe in Christmas gifts to the girls nor do they believe in giving Birthday gifts. There are also questions if Obama family believe in Thanksgiving.

Looked on line (Google) and cannot get a straight answer, just that muslims do not believe in this either. Do not know that to think and so I asked.
So what? And to not let your daughter listen to
How bigoted is that? Children should be taught tolerance, not HATRED.
Hmm, and just how would you treat your daughter
if she said she was gay?
I'd appreciate it if you would leave my daughter out of your agenda.

I mentioned nothing of her political opinions or what she "thinks." I merely said I baby-sit for her occasionally and use her computer.  for you to try to drag her into your accusations is typical of what I have seen happen on the other board.  It's inflammatory and untrue, but it's how you people seem to create your "facts." I can assure you that my daughter has her own political opinions, and she and I don't always agree, unlike you, but we at least respect each other's right to their opinion and often have respectable, interesting, informative debates with each other.  She was taught respect and learned it very well. You can't hold a candle to the intelligent, respectful young lady that she is, so don't even try because you're way out of your league. As far as going back to the conservative board, thanks, but no thanks. I've already explained my reasons for not going back there any more. People are much more respectful of differing opinions on this board.


My post to gt was simply to tell her that I understand what it's like to be accused of all sorts of things simply because you post on a board.  It happened to me on the conservative board on my first (and last) visit there, which is why I won't return.


Do I think some of the things gt said were over the top?  I sure do.  Do I understand why she said them?  My guess is that she was trying to communicate with you in the only way you seem to understand, since civil attempts don't seem to work with some of you people.  I think I can "understand" her motives, just like some of you "understand" why Eric Rudolph murdered innocent people. And between the two, I'd much rather try to "understand" gt than "Eric" (as he appears to be affectionately referred to elsewhere on this board).


My daughter has shunted hydrocephalus
When she was 5 years old, she had totally unexpected abrupt failure when were out of town, and required a Medflight back home and immediate surgery with her neurosurgeon. I can't imagine if we had to wait for an MRI or CT scan with her. Universal health care scares me to death.
Good luck with your daughter! sm
I have kids are older than yours and while there has not been a pregnancy, there have been other issues we have worked through that floored me and shocked me, but we got through them.

I have several friends whom are excellent parents, involved, church going, teach values ...could not ask for more.

guess what???

Their kids drink, try drugs, have sex and yes, indeed, some have gotten pregnant. I am not saying ALL teenagers do, because that is not true, BUT many, many do.

IMHO, embracing it and loving your child when something like this happens is called unconditional love. It does NOT mean that you condone it or approve. But what is done, is done.

p.s. (joke)
just how do her parents "allow it?"

Question about McCain's daughter
What is really necessary for her to look up on the internet whether or not she was adopted???   Maybe looking in the mirror may have given her a clue!   And I thought Chelsea Clinton was hard on the eyes.  At least Chelsea is educated and a good speaker.  McCain's daughter looks challenged - and I don't be sport's challenged!!   How about Cindy's hair color - ain't that pretty?   
Lets her daughter get pregnant ????
I don't know ANY mother who would get up one day and say, "Gee, I would love to LET my daughter get pregnant". What do you think she should do, handcuff herself to her daughter and follow her around all day and night? Give me a break!!! There are mothers who are home all day with their daughters and they get pregnant. Who you wanna blame now!!!!

Her daughter getting pregnant does not imply sexual abuse at all....I see two hormone driven teenagers. Lets not get so carried away that just because a teenage girl gets pregnant you jump on that stupid bandwagon of believing she was abuse. I feel pretty confident in saying she was probably a willing participant....now they both have to deal with the consequences just like others from the beginning of time......
Congratulations, you have obviously raised your daughter right.
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Would love to be a fly on the wall if your daughter
got knocked up despite being "taught not to get pregnant". Especially if that mistake were to end up tying her for 18 years of her life to some loser guy, and all the problems that can bring.

So what exactly do you think will happen if the earth's population continues to grow at the rate it's been for the past 50-100 years? What kind of world does that leave your grandchildren? It's too crowded now - how horrible will it be when the earth's population doubles, then triples? Standing-room-only?
Can't have your cake and eat it too, don't you want your husband, son, daughter...sm
etc. to be paid what they are worth, to be paid enough they can save up and buy a home AND make the mortgage and insurance payments? Afford to feed their family without food stamps? We area a family of five, homeowners, trying to help our eldest with student loans to become a teacher, live VERY modestly, work overtime whenever we can, drive well-used cars that we OWN, and some weeks we have to put off buying medication or shampoo because we spent the family budget until the next paycheck. More working people, able to be consumers paying taxes, is one of the long-term fixes to any economy, we are not all George Bush's Halliburton and corportate/oil buddies, Japan made its working force world class by implementing higher wages, providing better benefits to workers, etc. America is way behind the times, and that is why we are in a boatload of trouble.
Her daughter is not in politics - take it to the gab board
Gloating about the sadness that some kids are going through belongs on the gab board. Her daughter and daughters bf never ran for a political position. It's bad enough to see the Palin bashing continue past the election (get over it), but to gloat about someone's misery is shameful, especially when they are not in politics. The OP was obviously gloating and it's disgusting to know there are people so spiteful that they can't let it go with Palin, they have to drag her kids (soon to continue to her family soon) into the bashing too and express their happiness about the awful circumstances her kids are going through - real nice!!! Take the gossip to the gab board.

And if you look below you'll see many posts by me. I'm not a coward to use my moniker I've always been using.

The father of the Marine daughter also said the same thing. sm
I guess they are all just misguided and brainwashed.  In fact, a lot of the military is saying this. But it doesn't shut people up, does it. Didn't in Vietnam either.  Well, freedom of speech works both ways.  But the left never seems to get that either.
Maybe Palin didn't know yet that her daughter was pregnant when
That is a possibility. The daughter might have tried to hide it until she started showing. I don't know the circumstances around Palin and don't pretend to know, but I knew of girls in high school with me who hid it from their parents well into their 5th or 6th month. Not until they started showing did they tell.
Maybe they'll get their dog when Sarah Palin's daughter
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oops typo, *Not Without My Daughter* (Sally Field).....
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of course he lied - but no one died - he had a young daughter to protect...
All men would lie - when, in fact, it was nobody's freakin' business........that was Hillary's problem
Palin's Wasilla has 42 meth labs and her daughter's new mother in law to be sm
got arrested for drugs.

JBB, you may have a point, so hard raising a daughter these days!! (Cute!) :-)........nm
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And this was only a few months ago
:?
About 2 to 3 months ago, someone tried
to break into my house with me home working.  They purposely tried to scare me.  They went around my house banging on the walls and windows.  As we live in the country, I do have a gun in my office.  As I was calling 911, they were trying to get in the front door.  I yelled at them that if they went any further, I was going to shoot and the police were on their way.  Thankfully, this did stop them.   But if they would have come through the door, I really believe I would have shot them.  I still have problems sleeping!
We have only had a dem congress for 18 months. nm
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No, this just happened in the last 2 months.
It was WALL STREET, FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC that did it, not Bush. He had nothing to do with this.
3 months in barracks for everyone 18-25!!!!!! nm
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