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sorry to hear your ashamed of yourself

Posted By: me on 2008-09-10
In Reply to: People like you make me ashamed to call myself - American...or Christian. amfm

C'mon people get with the facts. You may not like it but a fact is a fact and you can't change it.

What do you mean "people like me". You mean people who do research and will accept good and bad on both sides. You mean people like me who want to know the truth.


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You should be ashamed

You don't seem to think much at all.  You probably listen to faux news and Hannity.  Have you not seen what Bush did the last 8 years?  He is a criminal.  AL Queda is not in Iraq.  That war is about oil.  Cheney has the contract to rebuild Iraq for $5 billion for his Halliburton company.  He still gets money from that company.  The English being the official language is way more complicated than a small mind like yours can comprehend.  The fact is that right now we do not have an official language.  The reason they won't make it an official language is that if someone of hispanic origins comes to the emergency room, they wouldn't be able to communicate if things were only printed in English. 


Bush destroyed our country.  Palin is a dumb person who can't answer a straight question and so hides from the media unless it's the haters like Rush and Hannity.  That discredits her even more.  Fox news shouldn't even be legal.  You can say the media is biased but Fox News outright lies.  They take pieces of text out of context and try to make something of it.  Obama is not palling around with terrorists.  Bill Ayers was working with the Mayor of Chicago.  You are a complete moron and unfortunately, there are a few like you out there.  You sound like a stupid hillbilly.  You think Bush was a conservative and look what he did in his time as president.... he turned the banking system into socialism. 


McCain ditched his first wife who waited for him while he was in prison.  That's just not nice.  Cindy McCain is all botoxed out... $100 million a year she makes and so I seriously doubt she is a regular person.  They are insulated from the problems of common idiots like you, yet you stick up for them.


 


I think you should be ashamed
It was Obama who did that with the ecomy.  He was involved with Fannie Mae and signed bills to get people into homes they couldn't afford, no down payment and no documentation.  His college and his wife's college as well as his house was financed with terrorists.  Look on Godtube and see the videos from Saddleback.
I'm ashamed at you....
Food stamps has nothing to do with race, and if you think it does then you better rethink who the prejudice one is.
I'm not ashamed
to be an American,  I am ashamed of the deeds done by the government to give us Americans a bad name.  We are very much hated around the world and the fault does not lie solely on Bush.  I do know soldiers personally that did not agree with Bush going to Iraq, but those soldiers ALSO stated they were not happy with Obama's "we can't win" sentiment over the "conflict" in Iraq.  To them, this felt like he does not believe in the US military enough.
Why should I be ashamed - I'm not 17 and preggie!

NM


I am ashamed of the USA for having these insulting,
nm
And I'm ashamed of the USA for electing the
the so-called 'moral majority' that elected him. What's wrong with you people, anyway? Are you all missing the same chromosomes?
You ashamed to show us your name?
I guess I would be too if I were you. You talk about rants! Shucks, guess I am just being obnoxious again.
To Ashamed Black MT:

I wholeheartedly agree with JTBB.  I think people see different things when they see Obama.


What I see is someone who is also half WHITE.  I see someone who wouldn't even have been allowed to EXIST in this country not very long before he was born because interracial marriage was against the law.  I see how far our country has come, despite all the bigots and racists, some of which obviously linger (but hopefully will go by the way of the dinosaur).


Most of all, I see someone who represents the BEST in most of us, instead of the LEAST in the few of us.  By acknowledging my EXISTENCE (and I'm white) as someone in America who isn't a millionaire, by acknowledging the EXISTENCE of a healthcare problem and by acknowleding the EXISTENCE of all the other problems that plague people who were once part of the almost extinct middle class, he is acknowledging the existence of most of us, which is much more than has been done by the Republicans during either the last eight years or even during the 2008 Presidential campaign.


I have great faith in him, especially when I see him with his children, that he truly wants what is best for everyone in this country.  I have no idea why so many people are so threatened by him.  I truly see hope for a better future, even though I've been "programmed" to live on edge and wonder what the "President" is doing next to stick it to the little guy.  Hopefully, I'll get over that "reflex," and hopefully he won't give me a reason to question or criticize him.


I agree with you...........we should be ashamed
to vote a person into the presidency who has NO respect for life at all!! If a woman does not feel she wants or can care for the child, there is adoption.

I have a niece and a nephew through adoption and I feel blessed that their mothers cared enough for those children to give them up for adoption and show TRUE love and selflessness for that unborn child!
YOU should be ashamed for supporting a candidate
nm
Your statement makes me ashamed
Jesus did not teach this kind of hatred. I will pray for your elightenment.
Secretary Napolitano should be ashamed!!

Now she thinks if you're against abortion, you're an "extremist".  If you don't like the government's crap, you're an "extremism".  If you want LESS government, you're an "extremist".   If you're a veteran, you're a LOT more likely to be an "extremist".   This is just the kind of garbage mentality running our country!!!   We now let our "extremist" government decide who are the "bad" groups?  According to them, ANYONE who opposes their spending activity is an "extremist"!! 


She could have just as easily stood at her little podium and stated that all these people have EVERY right to be heard and express themselves, but she didn't.  She demonized anyone who doesn't like our present administration or any administration for that matter.............  absolutely pathetic!


 


I would be ashamed if I were someone with Rush's ignorance. No jealousy here. But I do wonder a
lot about those who are his fans.
People like you make me ashamed to call myself
su
I do not support unjust wars, and I am not ashamed to say so!
Do you know many billions of dollars have been wasted in Iraq? Our men and women do not belong there, and I believe their time would be better spent doing something constructive in this country rather than killing people in other countries.
In my last sentance I meant a coward, not ashamed -nm
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who are "you guys". I'm a democrat and ashamed of
xx
Hear, hear! He is an exceptional person for an ....sm
exceptionable time. They say that God is watching us from a distance and I believe that is true. I think that Obama has a good pure heart, extraordinary intelligence, does truly want to improve our lives, and my prayers are with him. How about that he has Bobby Kennedy's desk (my hero).
Hear ye, hear ye. We don't want to be scared.
nm
Do you hear yourself?
You drive even other Democrats off this board.  There hasn't been logical debate here in weeks.  You have no idea how you appear on the conservative board. Like a bunch of grade schoolers.  They have stayed away from the most part from here, but you have not afforded them the same courtesy.  And yet you think YOU have taken the higher ground.  It's just amazing your lack of insight into your own behavior.  Just as you were accused, so was I.  By one of YOU.  Unbelieveable.
My God, do you hear yourself? NM

You won't hear that in the MSM!
Thanks for posting the article!
So what I hear you saying is...

...that you're terribly proud of youself because when you beat up on people and they bite back at you that you don't whine about it?  And also that you beat up on the libs because of their feelings about the troops and the war.  Seems like you lash out indiscriminately on this board without really knowing what most folks believe. 


And you are deceitful in saying I saw someone on the conservative board being wished to die and burn in hell once.  ACtually I wrote the post you refer to and that is NOT what I wrote.  Do you recall the game folks play at parties where a story is whispered in the ear of one person after another and then the story is read as it started out and then read as it ended up?  And then everyone marvels over how much it changed?  Well, that's what has happened here.  So you are lying when you provide a quote of that post as the truth.


I did not hear this but it was probably said
in reference to global warming, not Bush, causing more numerous and more severe hurricanes. The water in the Gulf of Mexico is right now around 90 degrees Fahrenheit. The warmth of the water is what restrengthed the hurricane.
I hear ya.

Reading your post, I think you'd be shocked if you realized how close you came to describing MY life! 


 


Do you hear yourself?
Talk about talking points...you were firing them like crazy yesterday. And again...the moderator has said over and over and over again anyone who wants to post on either board can. I guess at least the moderator still believes in free speech, even if liberals do not. Liberals, who profess to be tolerant, are the most INtolerant group I have ever seen (at least most of the ones who come here). You ask a question, counter a point, ask them to defend a belief, and they go nuts. At least you finally put the truth into words...separate. I guess that is what liberals want. Well, my friend, I have news for you. This is America. COnservatives have just as much right to be here as liberals. If you are firm in your beliefs, you should have no problem debating. There is 1 who posts here who still believes that conservatives have the same rights liberals do, and is able to look past idealistic rhetoric to get to the real truth of things. Extremely refreshing. As to bothered...you do not bother me at all. You have every right to say what you want to say....but you should not expect it to go unchallenged.

That is another thing I do not understand about liberals...and why live and let live rings hollow. What you really mean is....we live over here on this board and we let you live over there on that board and don't you DARE to come over to this board because we don't want you to live over here.

That is the definition of intolerant...segregation.
I hear ya, DW....
but it does seem like the Republicans recognize those in their midst who claim to be Republican but their actions do not follow...and they call them out on it. RINOs. Obviously there are those on the liberal side as well. Makes sense there would be. It is just that I have never seen them separate themselves before...especially to the extent of a couple of posters who answered my question a couple of weeks ago. Very interesting. And actually very encouraging.
I hear what you are saying....
and I agree it would be difficult. You are right; the statistics I find say that 40% of the "convenience abortions" are not the first or even the second abortion for the woman. That being the case, I am not content to say because it would be hard to sort out, just go ahead and kill'em all anyway. So I will continue to vote for a man who will at least take a stab at trying to fix it.

And so myself and others with agree to disagree...and some of us will agree, at least, that abortion is wrong but fixing it won't be easy...

God bless!
Not that you want to hear from me, but...
actually I did watch it.  From a completely objective viewpoint, just looking at the performance and content per se, I agree with you.  Hillary, I thought, was much stronger and did not let the others run over her like before.  Again, objectively, I think Obama talked too much, meaning, took forever to get to his point and the way he delivers things might go over the heads of some people, or they stop listening waiting for the point.  Biden was strong, and he looks presidential, and to some people that is really important.  I know Hillary is not a tall person, and I know Obama is, but it was really striking in a couple of the shots...she really had the head back so she could look up at him and he had the head down ya-yaing at her.  Just an observation.  But I think she handled herself well.   As much flak as Hillary has gotten over the driver's licenses to illegals thing, I thought the way she answered the question if she was for it, was priceless...after Obama went on and on, she just said "No."  I think that was a bit of a coup DE grace for her, as an objective "observer."  lol
How sad to hear that....
This country was founded on a belief of being "free", allowing freedom from government involvement and corruption. Obama has stated he wants bigger government, more government to tell you how to act/feel/breath, all at your expense. Now, where is the freedom in that? Taxation, taxation, taxation.....it is sad to hear citizens of the US say they would rather be a socialist than fascist, when what one should be saying is I don't want government in my life at all...period!!!
No, what I am saying is if I want to hear anything about the ...
conservative side of things along with the liberal/Democrat side of things, Fox is the only alternative. Democrats/liberals are not the only people who tell the "Truth." So far I have not caught Fox in an outright lie, and they chose NOT to run that ad about Obama and Ayers that the guy in Texas made up, which I thought was fair, and if they were indeed as they are described here they would be running it every hour. Geez.
i hear ya

The unique thing about conservatives is that they form their own opinions.  Savage came out against Palin, and yesterday he was still against her.  I don't need anyone to decide or think for me.  But his stories are so worth the time.  This is one area where he's completely different from all of them.  That's why he wrote this current book and did every bit of it himself.  No editing, no publisher, just his words.  Gotta respect that, I say.  His dog (Teddy) has become a big star, too, and has his own section on his w/s.


Would rather hear a few ers and uhs
a polished, poised parrot delivering scripted speech from mysterious authors. It may be shocking to some, but we like our leaders to show us a glimpse of original thought and inspired vision all on their own from time to time.
I hear ya.......... sm
you want to see a stagnated salary? Just look at my paycheck!!

The thing that really fries my taters is that we are the ones who will ultimately pay for these raises.
Hear, Hear!
thx
I hear ya...lol (nm)
nm
you can HEAR me?

rapidly progressing . . .


 


Do you hear yourself?
Adultry is okay as long as you say it out loud. Now dictatorship is okay as long as the candidate has the "decency" to say it out loud? Democrats are not socialists, no matter how persistently you try to assert that claim. Scare tactics are boring and downright insulting in view of the crisis the country now finds itself in. These pathetic distractions will end up costing your party any chance it may have once had of winning this race. Enjoy your descent and your ultimate defeat. Your party has earned it....10 times over.
What exactly do you want to hear.....
For the sake of pretending you didn't just read how VP nominee Biden can't stand his own presidential running mate, we'll do this again.

Now, that being said why do you automatically assume I am pushing the McCain ticket?
I am pointing out why Obama is a joke. If a man's character cannot be upheld, why in the heck would you want him running your country. There are numerous FACTS, yes, FACTS where this man is associated with horrible people, questionable organizations, and now he and Biden are great friends, all this without question. I'm sorry to say at this point our economy won't be worth crap in a pot if we have a corrupt man heading up this country. He and McCain can't get anything straight on the economics issue because it is a mess and they know it. There is no one thing that will make this all turnaround. They cannot make any promises without those monies coming from somewhere to pay for all those monies.

McCain has said he wants to cut taxes.....haven't heard that with Obama and no way we will. Socialists do not do that. Everything about his history screams socialist and that should be very frightening to everyone. There is nothing about McCain's history that scream socialist views and you cannot tie him in with terrorists, no matter how hard you try. So there are my choices, socialist or capitalist, very questionable associations or not.

McCain said he wanted to create an alternative system for paying income taxes and double the income tax exemption for dependents. Have an income tax system that offers two basic rates and a generous standard deduction. McCain would let Americans choose between the new system and the present one.
This is what he said and sounds better than anything I've heard from Obama.

"Americans do not resent paying their rightful share of taxes -- what they do resent is being subjected to thousands of pages of needless and often irrational rules and demands" from the Internal Revenue Service, he said. "We are going to create a new and simpler tax system -- and give the American people a choice."

McCain said he also would like eventually to phase out the alternative minimum tax, and says this will save more than 25 million middle-class families more than 2,000 dollars every year.

McCain said he plans to overhaul the tax code, close costly, unfair corporate loopholes and veto every bill containing earmarks "until the Congress stops sending bills with earmarks because lawmakers always use earmarks -- spending initiatives attached to unrelated bills -- to fund pet projects and curry favor with constituents and donors.

He wants to enact a one-year pause in discretionary spending and have the governmentw investigate each department's and agency's budget. Military spending and veterans benefits would be exempt.

McCain said he would use the money saved from these proposals to ease the burden on employers by lowering the business income tax from 35 percent to 25 percent. He said, "As it is, we have the second-highest tax on business in the industrialized world. High tax rates are driving many businesses and jobs overseas -- and, of course, our foreign competitors wouldn't mind if we kept it that way," he said.



Not all, but most from what I hear.
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You say what you say. I hear what I hear. Must have been
pouring out of the red camp hate macine for weeks on end, so much so that it is all becoming just one big slur blur. Did you see the Johnstown PA McCain rally clip? How about republicans who hang Obama in effigy in front of their house by tying a noose around a Halloween ghost wearing an Obama T-shirt and let him swing from a tree branch for all those world, including their own children, to see? Yeah. Not a racist amoungst you.
i hear ya
x
I hear you on that one!
Why is is that we have to vote in a new president every four years, but Congress gets to stay in for life? They'll probably have to tear Nancy Pelosi's cold dead body out of her chair, not to mention some of the other cronies that have been there forever. Term limits on Congress? An idea to think over.
If I hear that (sm)
I'm moving because I am SOOOO in a horror movie....LOL.
Because I believe NOTHING I hear
and only half of what I see. 
I am sorry to hear that. nm

Sorry to hear
that you condone racism coming from one church but one someone points it out you accuse them of racism. In all forms it needs to be eliminated.
I hear ya, GP. (sm)
Every day, same old, same old.  It's disheartening.
Actually we just don't want to hear him at all
Until he is sworn and and "legally" president.
sorry to hear that

but not too much.