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You're in the wrong place s/m

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-10-20
In Reply to: Need advice from Dems and Repubs sm - Mrs. M

If you want an objective, nonbiased opinion don't expect to find it on this forum.  Read the ridiculous stuff aimed at ditzing Obama.  Ridiculous.  My suggestion is to watch the candidates as much as possible and listen carefully to what they say.  You can also usually find video clips of their stump speeches, etc. on Yahoo.  Don't depend on anyone to make up your mind for you, do your research and vote your conscience.  That's the best I  have to offer.  No use being reduced to tears.


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put this in the wrong place--sorry
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Oops. I posted in the wrong place above, but here it is again.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/09/12/video-jon-stewart-bush_n_29247.html
oops I replied in the wrong place
I was actually replying to the post that said So Einstein's sentiments mean we're all morons. Sorry....guess I'm the moron here. HA HA
whoops-posted in wrong place!
The above post is in the wrong spot. belongs below in the thread about increasing unemployment. Sorry about that. Too late to be doing this!!
They're all over the place in FL. nm
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They're REALLY in place to prevent govt
from declaring martial law on the states, as they know Obama will try to do before he is out of office........hide and watch!


You're wrong...
Everybody is innocent until proven guilt for me.  That's the American way.  I'm not picking and choosing who suits me to be guilty or innocent.  As for somebody's life being in jeopardy, that's isn't even mentioned in the indictment.  In fact, it may be that the woman wasn't outed at all, being that she pushed paper at a desk and everybody and his cousin knew where she worked.  I think this is either payback for the Ken Starr investigation or an attempt to park a dark cloud of suspicion over the White House, being that even with everything that is going wrong the polls show that 44% of the country would vote for a Democrat and 44% of the country would vote for a Republican if an election were held today.  The Democrats have no solutions, so they try to discredit the Republicans so that they'll at least get a vote against the Reblicans to put them back in the White House.
Actually, you're wrong about that.
See link. Some people believe anything they are told, I guess.


http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/index.cfm?lesson=EM219
You're wrong
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Oh, you're quite wrong.
I would have replied exactly as I did whatever your gender. I might have substituted "Bub" for "my dear", but that makes no difference.

Trying to portray yourself as the poor widdle victim of misogynistic meanies is no different from someone misplaying the race card in order to deflect unpleasant truths.

Grow up.
Yup. You're wrong.
If they put up a statue to that pathetic joke, AL Gore, "inventor of the Internet" and "Chicken-Little of Global Warming (NOT!)", then I want to be a pigeon. And incidentally, I'd like the honor of being the first one.

Take your judgments and take a hike.

I agree with you and yet I'm still wrong. You're only here..sm
for a fight and you know it. Even when I agree you still are in attack mode.

Please show some accountability and show me where I said you mentioned this administration. I said we may never see eye to eye on the administration and from your vicious attacks here on the liberal board gives me the impression that you see nothing wrong in Iraq, but that we are not sending care packages. That's been your main argument here.

You are the one imagining things. You cant even grasp the fact that a liberal (myself) was actually agreeing with you about the care packages, so you had to turn it all around and start the argument that I shouldn't send anything. You have a lot of anger in you and it's not my fault. I'm sorry my dear, I can not separate the fact that our soldiers need care packages from the administration that sent them to war, but they need them nonetheless. Like I said I will do whatever my heart leads me to do, and you and YOUR bitterness will have no say in the matter.
pssst...you're both wrong, too bad.
That's what happens when you swallow your bait whole on Faux News! By now everyone should know that Sheehan was never even asked to zip up her jacket and stated that if she had been, she would have done so without any problem.

Also, it was revealed several days later that there is NO law against wearing shirts with statements or political messages at the SOTU. The Capitol police have apologized for their mistake. Right.

So, turns out that Sheehan (who Bush just happens not to like)did nothing more than accept an invitation, wear a preferred shirt and show up in her assigned seat. All the silly nonsense about unfurling a banner or refusing to cooperate with police or being a nuisance was no more than lies spread by the very people who are constitutionally incapable of telling the truth, cowards afraid to be in the presence of anyone who disagrees with them, even if that person is totally silent - and they will break, bend, twist and contort the law in any way they can to avoid having the truth look them in the eye.

Unfortunately, they have too many Americans duped into believing and repeating their nasty little memes every time they are vomited out.
Nope you're wrong

I haven't posted here in quite a while.  And as I said, there are apparently quite a few others that post here.  When some of us see your posts deteriorate into bullying and name-calling we speak up about it.  It's as simple as that.


I think you're numbers are wrong. The top 5% of
the U.S. makes millions and billions. $200,000 is NOT the 'top 5%' of the country. It's definitely more than a single, head-of-household MT makes, but depending on where you live, it won't put you in that mansion on the hill, either.

When he talks about raising taxes on the top 5%, he's not talking about YOU. He's talking about people like Bill Gates. He's talking about huge corporations (like the oil industry, tobacco industry, HMO & insurance industries, etc.) that rake it in, and then have a jillion and a half loopholes and secret cubbyholes to stash it in.


you're talking to the wrong sm --

You're Wrong, Kendra
We didn't invade Iraq because "Saddam Hussein was well on his way to becoming another Hitler." You have no idea what you're talking about, Kendra. We invaded Iraq because of a pack of filthy lies by a pack of filthy liars who lied about WMDs and yellowcake uranium, and the list goes on and on and on....

"Fighting a little on other soil." Nice turn of phrase, Kendra. How about 4243 American military personnel killed since Bush's war began? How about somewhere over 90,000 Iraqi civilian casualties since Bush's war began? How many Iraqis participated in the 9/11 attacks, Kendra? ZERO. How is invading Iraq defending our way of life, Kendra? AL Qaeda in Iraq DIDN'T EXIST until Bush's war. How about a price tag of $3 TRILLION and counting, Kendra?

Anybody who claims to be against the cost of the stimulus bill while turning a blind eye to the human and monetary cost of Bush's war in Iraq is a hypocrite of the worst kind.
Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Yep still in Ohio and you're still wrong sm

Guess we play by different rules down here. Ya'll come down and see us some time.


I don't know where you found your info, but here is info I found at this website under food stamps fact sheet:  http://jfs.ohio.gov/families/food/index.stm


Doesn't say anything about being taxable or not and definitely does not specifically forbid soda.


What can be bought with food stamp benefits?


Food stamp benefits can be used to buy most food or food products intended for human consumption. Items which


may not be purchased with food stamps include alcoholic beverages, tobacco, hot food and hot food products


that are prepared to be eaten immediately. Individuals who receive food stamp benefits may not sell or trade food


stamp benefits, buy nonfood items or use food stamp benefits to buy food for someone who is not a member of


the household.


 


Ah, but you see, you're wrong again. (Are you masochistic or something?)
LOADS of folks on the forum get my humor (for instance, please read the testimonials posted by my mother and sister - both of whom are of the female persuasion) - among others. I'm putting them into a scrapbook.

...and I think you meant "THERE you sit", since I checked and didn't find you hiding under my desk. Wait, though. I forgot about the trash basket.
Excuse me, but I think you're wrong. (sm)

Those who hate JTBB and continously nip at her heels like pesky, rabid chihuahuas are allowed to communicate with her in any manner they choose, the more hate filled, the better.


It's those posters who try to be polite, those posters who understand and (God forbid) AGREE with JTBB who aren't welcome here.


What I usually come away with after reading one of JTBB's posts is an opinion with a very well thought-out opinion borne from a lot of research.


She's one of the fairest minded and intelligent people to post on this board, in my opinion, and for having that opinion, I'm sure the fire will be aimed in my direction for having the unmitigated gall to say something NICE about her, when only the most hateful insults towards JTBB are tolerated here.


P.S. to the person who demands how everyone communicates on this board:  JTBB is being singled out by a person who is interested in discussion of issues and isn't interested in bashing, insulting and bullying.  There are very few, if any, on this board who fit that profile.


You're on the wrong board, aren't you?

Twist away, the truth is out there. Sam's right. You're wrong. nm

"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....


We may never recover from President Obama, at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......


We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.


The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.


He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
I think you responded to the wrong person here. You're
My whole point was that the UK is not the country to talk about banning "extreme" ideas. They're loaded with extremists yammering on every street corner and advocating violent jihad.
you're wrong, S. FLA the illegals paid on the books
at least the ones I know.....the ones who did arrive with at least a visa.....and who get paid off a company payroll and not off the books or in cash is what I mean....
Kinky. I think you're on the wrong message board.
Sicko!
Then you're apparently listening in the wrong places. nm
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Yep, you're right....it was probably that pesky "sm" poster typed in wrong....my bad.
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wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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There's a place for everything!!!
nm
she did go to the right place
they had her husband listed but not her. she went on the county website and found her active status after she got home but now it's too late because of the provisional ballot being accepted.
You ought to see the place now.
The people who bought it left the barn fall apart. They tore down the summer kitchen (2 rooms, 1 up, 1 down)  and "canning house" (24 x 40), and never took care of the orchard. It looks like a dump...and it breaks my heart. Everything was in good shape when we tried to buy it.
Probably the same place she gets
It seems to be of comparable quality.
Web site best place.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Mouse over the issues and a drop down list will provide you with lots of links that should keep you busy. You can also check out some of his better speeches if you like. If you are interested in being conversational and social and an Obama party, this is the place for you.

As you have already discovered, this chat room is the last place to look. The web site simply lays out the platform and policies in Obama's own words, without bias one way or the other..simple straight talk.

If, however, you are interested in getting kicked out of the party and labeled a right-wing fringe element, then go to the other links on black liberation theology. You are free, of course, to read about it and come to your own conclusions. But if you do explore that issue, please read the website throughly before deciding whether or not you think he subscribes to that theology. I can tell you categorically, none of his supporters believe the propaganda suggested to you in the other posts in this regard. It would be interesting to ask others at the party what they think about the assertions that Obama embodies those beliefs.

How refreshing to find a voter as open minded as this. Good luck with our research. Feel free to email me with any questions you may have.
I don't know....but I don't think it is our place to judge....
I knew girls in high school who did not want to ask their parents about birth control, intended to stay celibate, had the same boyfriend through school let hormones override their better judgment and got pregnant. Not their parents' fault. And as you said, the boy could have used a condom, and we don't know that he didn't, because we know the success rate for condoms is not that great. That we are even having this discussion to me is ludicrous...if Chelsea had become pregnant while Bill was in the White House I don't think Democrats would be attacking Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. I certainly would not have.
System in place........
No more taxes? Would be nice, but have to have some system in place to run schools, hospitals, keep infrastructure up to date, etc.

That is what your state is supposed to be responsible for.....not our government.


that's okay - I just said we needed something in place nm
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And, according to the Q'ran there is a place
in h*ll for all who are not Muslim, including you, if you are not Muslim.

Wanna dispute that?

there is already some provisions in place -
I already had my preexisting conditions covered because I had had continuous coverage for 18 months before with another company - so it can be done already in some cases. Why would it be impossible to make it a law in every case?
That would be the US Senate....same place as McC
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I only everybody would think like you, the world would be a better place,...thanks,.....nm
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You nut jobs can have this place

Keep on ranting about the stupid b/c like as if you are smarter than Hillary and McCain.  If there'd been even a SNIFF of wrongdoing in the b/c, they would have drug it out and already drug it through the mud.  Personally I don't think a lot of the nut jobs who hang out here are even MTs.  I think they are professional political pot stirers!!!


BB, you don't think religion has a place anywhere! LOL sm
You do know I'm just kidding, right?

Warren did take a biblical stand against gay marriage and homosexuality, which does surprise me, considering what "The MESSage" says, but as much as I disagree with him on a lot of things (not necessarily environmental) I have to agree with his stance regarding what you refer to as alternative lifestyles. According to the Bible, homosexuality ranks right in there with all the other things you mentioned. I won't go any further into that because this is not the forum for it. However, I do think that Warren's watered down style probably fits in more with Obama's idea of religion that, oh, say, Billy Graham might. I just wonder if Rev. Wright got his feelings hurt because he wasn't chosen. He was, after all, Obama's religious mentor.
Thanks. If I want entertainment, that would be the place, but
I would find two-way conversations between opposing points of view aimed at defining differences, finding common ground, and respectful exchange of reliable and verifiable information which is SOLUTIONS oriented much more challenging. Any ideas?
Why the name calling? Isn't this a place where...
...people can feel free to express their opinions?  Your post was just plain rude.
Most abortions don't take place......... sm
at 1 day after conception. So that line of thinking is just ridiculous.

Now, let's suppose you kill a 3-year-old or 10-year-old or 15-year-old child. Would you be guilty of murder in that instance? I thought so.
He said lobbiests would have no place

in  his administration, and it is filled with lobbiests. 


He said Americans would have 5 days to view the porkulus stimulus $700B package and we had none, but it took him 4 days to sign it when it passed while his lazy behind went on a mini vacation. 


He said his administration would be the most transparent of all, but it isn't.  He even signed the budget bill with its 9000 pork items behind closed doors, very unlike his public display of "transparency" in using all those other pens he writes with to destroy the Constitution.  You can, however, go out online and read each pork item line by line, and see how we are transparently wasting money.


He campaigned on hope and change, yet his administration is nothing but Clinton re-treads, crooks, and tax evaders. 


However, you have to give it to him.  He is fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises.  He's paying back the homosexuals, the baby killers, the communists, and George Soros and whoever else he is beholden to who want to ensure the demise of the U.S. 


For your own survival, remember this term:  Cloward-Piven Strategy.  Go here to read more about Obama and manufactured crisis.  http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html


 


This is not conspiracy.  The facts presented are documented, and you should be very, very afraid.


 


Of course, conservatives (not to be interpreted as Republican conservatives) researched and knew all about Obama and his agenda before he won the election.  We did our homework.  The above article will give you a very close glimpse into the mind of an evil man and his evil compatriots, his associations that the MSM and far left liberals said was not important.  Who you pal around with is significant.  Didn't your mom tell you that birds of a feather flock together?


 


 


You don't get your news from the right place
There are legions of moderate Muslims and clerics, both here and abroad, in Europe and the Middle East, who have spoken out against terrorist activities. Now if all you watch is Fox, you understandably have not had that news filter down to you. Many in some of the hard-line areas of the Middle East (I guess you'd call it their Qur'an Belt) have risked their well-being to speak out against the atrocities. Unfortunately, there, like here, people with a moderate view are drowned out by those with the more radical religious beliefs.