You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate, don't you?
Posted By: danfan on 2008-11-09
In Reply to: Let's start with Valerie...sounds like a good person to me... - Just the big bad
I would hope you don't believe everything on the internet. Too bad people don't read or think for themselves anymore and have to trust websites (which can be compromised) for all of their information. It's so easy to cut and paste and not do any real research. Just look at some of the reports we type up; Google is used for everything and can be wrong.
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This is not accurate.
The website that was provided very cleverly misled the reader to believe it was "required." They typed the word REQUIRED (in red and underlined just as I typed it) which led to the REAL link describing his proposal. Nowhere in the GENUINE link did it describe anything that was REQUIRED. It is a voluntary program. My guess is that everyone read the propaganda site and didn't bother to click on the link (as I typed it above) which showed the true program.
I'm going to try to explain this again. Once again, here is the link that was provided as "proof" regarding Obama's program: http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-new-youth-corp-requirement.html
I copied and pasted part of it below. Note where it says, "Yes, require." The article then goes on to mislead the reader about the program. If you click on the "require" link, it will take you to the GENUINE website that TRULY describes Obama's program, which I have also copied and pasted here in full.
"Misleading" site"
Obama's New Youth Corp Requirement?
Obama to set up a draft-like bill requiring 13 to 25 year olds to perform community service. Yes, REQUIRE.
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
Genuine site (that you get by clicking on red "require" link in "misleading" site):
America Serves
"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
Wikipedia says...
"Deviance describes actions or behaviors that violate cultural norms..." It seems to me that gay people are sexual deviants. Cultural norms for sexual behavior dictate woman + man.
according to wikipedia, it looks like it's always Jan 20
recently anyway
Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.
If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.
Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.
If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.
You should thank your lord & savior that NO ONE is cramming atheism or agnosticism down your gullet in the same manner.
Definition of NWO from wikipedia
The term new world order has been used to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. The first usages of the term surrounded Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points and call for a League of Nations following the devastation of World War I. The phrase was used sparingly at the end of the Second World War when describing the plans for the United Nations and Bretton Woods system, in part because of the negative association the phrase would bring to the failed League of Nations. In retrospect however, many commentators have applied the term retroactively to the order put in place by the WWII victors as a new world order. The most recent, and most widely discussed, application of the phrase came at the end of the Cold War. Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev and George H.W. Bush used the term to try and define the nature of the post Cold War era, and the spirit of great power cooperation that they hoped might materialize. Gorbachev's initial formulation was wide ranging and idealistic, but his ability to press for it was severely limited by the internal crisis of the Soviet system. Bush's vision was, in comparison, much more circumscribed and pragmatic, perhaps even instrumental at times, and closely linked to the First Gulf War. Perhaps not surprisingly, the perception of what the new world order entailed in the press and in the public imagination far outstripped what either Gorbachev or Bush had outlined, and was characterized by nearly comprehensive optimism.
If your definition is accurate
which I highly dobut then I guess I'm a liberal because I don't pledge blind loyalty to Bush. On the other hand I don't think every word he says is a lie either. I think he is a human capable of human mistakes, but I don't think every problem in the world at this moment is Bush's fault like many on this board do. I think many people are obsessed with the fact there's a conservative in office. It wouldn't matter what their name was Bush or Smith, the obsession would be the same. There are many wacko theories out there on all sorts of issues, but some I have read here take the cake. You don't talk about any other issues other than Bush is fault of everything wrong in this world. To me, liberal or conservative, is a little off the deep end no matter what political ideology you come from.
wikipedia is not end all be all....edited by US
and not wikipedia which is edited by the public, like you and I.... there's tons of other places to read about Odinga and Cousin Barack!!
This is not an accurate statement
Please provide non-partisan sources that state that the majority of scientists state that global warming is bunk.
Nope, just accurate.
The polls are not accurate...
slanted for obama like everything else the liberal media tells you. People (myself included) tend to believe what they want to believe
Now you get your info from wikipedia?
??
and if Wikipedia does not suit you...
Webster says "deviating especially from an accepted norm." Not a whole lot different, but I guess less "violent"? I actually just went with the first relatively reliable site for a definition of deviant when I googled it, but if you want, I can gather a whole bunch.
wikipedia question
I often see people use Wikipedia as a source for their information, but even Wikipedia says it can be edited by anyone and it also says it is a resource for people whose primary language is not English. So how reliable is it really and what kind of editing can people do to it? Anybody know?
The problem with wikipedia is that
anyone can change and edit the information on that site. That is what makes its information potentially problematic.
Green with NAUSEA is more accurate.
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wikipedia is a wonderful thing...
From Wikipedia:
In October 1996, she asked the Wasilla police chief, librarian, public works director, and finance director to resign, and she instituted a policy requiring department heads to get her approval before talking to reporters.[21] In January 1997, Palin notified the police chief, Irl Stambaugh, and the town librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons that they were being fired.[22] Palin said in a letter that she wanted a change because she believed the two did not fully support her administration. She rescinded the firing of the librarian, but not the police chief.[23] The chief filed a lawsuit; but a court dismissed it, finding that the mayor had the right to fire city employees for nearly any reason.[24] According to Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who observed City Council, Palin also brought up the idea of banning some books at one meeting, but did not follow through with the idea.[20]
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin was in charge of the city Police Department, consisting of 25 officers, and Public Works.[25] She was praised for cutting property taxes by 40%[26] while improving roads and sewers and strengthening the Police Department.[20] She also reduced the mayoral salary, reduced spending on the town museum, and opposed a bigger library.[26] She increased the city sales tax to pay for the new Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex,[25] which eventually went over budget due to an eminent domain lawsuit.[27]
Palin ran for re-election against Stein in 1999[6][28] and was returned to office by a margin of 909 to 292 votes.[29] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[30]
During her second term as mayor, Palin hired the Anchorage-based lobbying firm of Robertson, Monagle & Eastaugh to lobby for earmarks for Wasilla. The effort was led by Steven Silver, a former chief of staff for Senator Ted Stevens,[31] and it secured nearly $27 million in earmarked funds. The earmarks included $500,000 for a youth shelter, $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs, and $15 million for a rail project linking Wasilla and the ski resort community of Girdwood.[32] Some of the earmarks were criticized by Senator McCain.[33]
and on ethics:
In 1988, she worked as a sports reporter for KTUU-TV in Anchorage, Alaska.[15] She also helped in her husband’s family commercial fishing business.[16] Palin also had a 20% ownership in an Anchorage car wash business, according to state corporation records filed in 2004. Palin failed to report her stake in the company when running for governor in 2006; in April 2007, the state issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the company's failure to file its biennial report and pay state licensing fees.[17
I found this information on Wikipedia....sm
A provisional ballot is used to record a vote when there is some question in regards to a given voter's eligibility. A provisional ballot would be cast when:
* The voter refuses to show a photo ID (in regions that require one)
* The voter's name does not appear on the electoral roll for the given precinct.
* The voter's registration contains inaccurate or out-dated information such as the wrong address or a misspelled name.
* The voter's ballot has already been recorded
Whether a provisional ballot is counted is contingent upon the verification of that voter's eligibility.
A guarantee that a voter could cast a provisional ballot if he or she believes that they are entitled to vote was one of the guarantees of the Help America Vote Act of 2002.
Here is the link if you want more information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot
It looks like the count of provisional ballots in the event of a tie is determined by the state's voting laws. Again, something that I believe should be standardized, especially in national elections. Seems to be quite a bit wrong with our democratic election process.
Wikipedia and Glen Beck bio
Well, we all know Wikipedia is not the best place to go for information. It's also one-sided. The below sentence really popped out at me at Beck's leaving:
"Though, as some have noted, this will leave a gaping hole in CNN's "department of embarrassing conservatives we keep around to help us appear unbiased," insiders expect that other irritable commentators will continue to step up in this area. "
Tell me, now, that CNN is not biased. Glenn Beck can be irritating at times, but he does have some good points.
Take the man whose stepdaughter disappeared 2 years ago in Mexico. He promised the father he and the network (CNN) would follow up on the story until they found out what happened to her. CNN refused to follow up, so that is one reason Beck left. Now he is on Fox and has talked to the father again and this time, he promised again that he and Fox will follow up on his story. He stated he now works for a network that cares for people.
As in every network story on any channel, you either believe everything you hear, or you watch, listen, learn, then take it for what it's worth. I chose, and it's still my right, to listen to all sides and make decisions based on all sides.
My point of the above post was to irony of cigarette taxes paying for children's healthcare. That was it. Federal studies show that taxing cigarettes does not fill the coffers. It has the opposite effect. As cigarette taxes go up, people quit smoking. So there is a deficit in taxes to pay for programs from the get go.
This is excellent and paints a very accurate picture!
This is so true. All these people are so ready and eager to kill other people's children.
I didn't notice the name of a very decorated, true war hero on that list, though: Colin Powell, the only honest, honorable member of Bush's "team." He's a Republican, very intelligent, reasonable, has seen the ravages of war firsthand, and didn't seem to fit in with all the other boys on Bush's team who were obviously deprived of "GI Joe" playtime hours when they were 5 years old and are trying to make up for lost time.
I think it's an accurate reflection of how most people feel.
Which is good, considering how Americans treated Vietnam vetes, which I think was deplorable.
These poor guys are fighting Bush's personal war, and they're doing the very best they can, given the fact they were sent in there so ill equipped by the government they serve.
I'm so sad today about the news that two soldiers may have been kidnapped by al Qaeda. If that's true, I think about Nick Berg, and I shudder to wonder what the fate of these young men will be. I'm praying that they be found, safe and alive. They are so young. This is so, so sad. 
At the same time, I'm also angered at the fact they were placed in that position in the first place, based on nothing more than George Bush's war of lies and deceit.
Why won't anyone listen to John Murtha? In his very first statement, he said our troops should be redeployed to the periphery. The right wing misrepresented what he said, as usual, and called it *cutting and running,* when what he said was REDEPLOY TO THE PERIPHERY. That's what every mother does when removing the training wheels from her child's first bicycle. She cuts him/her loose but is still there in the background to save him/her if there's trouble. That's what Murtha proposed. But the neocons would rather our troops be killed or tortured. I even read a post somewhere, along the lines of Tony Snow's *2,500 is just number* when referring to American deaths in Iraq, citing something stupid Rush Limbaugh said regarding how many murders take place in the United States and, of course, how many abortions take place, inferring, as well, that 2,500 really isn't that high a number when you compare to murders and abortions. I guess it's their new spin as soldiers' deaths increase, which is deplorable.
The Iraqis need to learn to defend themselves. They can't do that if we're in their way all the time.
And don't forget: We're fighting TWO wars at once, Iraq and Afghanistan. Funny how we don't hear much about bin Laden these days, even though the war is still going on. How much thinner can we spread our military? And could we have gotten bin Laden if we had kept our focus on the people who actually attacked us?
This is just getting worse and worse and worse. I hope our country can survive through 2008 without Bush doing much more damage to it. I will be so relieved when he is out of office and I can finally (hopefully) feel a sense of hope for America.
Wikipedia & Snopes: kissin' cousins
And part of the Chicago/Obama machine. See for yourself, as you probably wouldn't believe me.
Polls may not be accurate as pollsters call land...sm
lines and many people only have cell phones.
Potato totally accurate, left out part where
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber#Plumbing_career
This will verify all of Potato's claims, and mine.
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