Nope, just accurate.
Posted By: Obama Biden 2008 on 2008-10-22
In Reply to: That was stupid. - nm
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This is not accurate.
The website that was provided very cleverly misled the reader to believe it was "required." They typed the word REQUIRED (in red and underlined just as I typed it) which led to the REAL link describing his proposal. Nowhere in the GENUINE link did it describe anything that was REQUIRED. It is a voluntary program. My guess is that everyone read the propaganda site and didn't bother to click on the link (as I typed it above) which showed the true program.
I'm going to try to explain this again. Once again, here is the link that was provided as "proof" regarding Obama's program: http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-new-youth-corp-requirement.html
I copied and pasted part of it below. Note where it says, "Yes, require." The article then goes on to mislead the reader about the program. If you click on the "require" link, it will take you to the GENUINE website that TRULY describes Obama's program, which I have also copied and pasted here in full.
"Misleading" site"
Obama's New Youth Corp Requirement?
Obama to set up a draft-like bill requiring 13 to 25 year olds to perform community service. Yes, REQUIRE.
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
Genuine site (that you get by clicking on red "require" link in "misleading" site):
America Serves
"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.
If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.
Accurate, though.
About as classy as subversive Christian politics, without the million-dollar sheen.
If I could have thought of a "classier" metaphor, believe me I would have. Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY how the ad made me feel, & I have no desire to sugar-coat the insidiousness of the Christian right; not for you or anyone else.
You should thank your lord & savior that NO ONE is cramming atheism or agnosticism down your gullet in the same manner.
If your definition is accurate
which I highly dobut then I guess I'm a liberal because I don't pledge blind loyalty to Bush. On the other hand I don't think every word he says is a lie either. I think he is a human capable of human mistakes, but I don't think every problem in the world at this moment is Bush's fault like many on this board do. I think many people are obsessed with the fact there's a conservative in office. It wouldn't matter what their name was Bush or Smith, the obsession would be the same. There are many wacko theories out there on all sorts of issues, but some I have read here take the cake. You don't talk about any other issues other than Bush is fault of everything wrong in this world. To me, liberal or conservative, is a little off the deep end no matter what political ideology you come from.
This is not an accurate statement
Please provide non-partisan sources that state that the majority of scientists state that global warming is bunk.
The polls are not accurate...
slanted for obama like everything else the liberal media tells you. People (myself included) tend to believe what they want to believe
You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate, don't you?
I would hope you don't believe everything on the internet. Too bad people don't read or think for themselves anymore and have to trust websites (which can be compromised) for all of their information. It's so easy to cut and paste and not do any real research. Just look at some of the reports we type up; Google is used for everything and can be wrong.
Green with NAUSEA is more accurate.
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This is excellent and paints a very accurate picture!
This is so true. All these people are so ready and eager to kill other people's children.
I didn't notice the name of a very decorated, true war hero on that list, though: Colin Powell, the only honest, honorable member of Bush's "team." He's a Republican, very intelligent, reasonable, has seen the ravages of war firsthand, and didn't seem to fit in with all the other boys on Bush's team who were obviously deprived of "GI Joe" playtime hours when they were 5 years old and are trying to make up for lost time.
I think it's an accurate reflection of how most people feel.
Which is good, considering how Americans treated Vietnam vetes, which I think was deplorable.
These poor guys are fighting Bush's personal war, and they're doing the very best they can, given the fact they were sent in there so ill equipped by the government they serve.
I'm so sad today about the news that two soldiers may have been kidnapped by al Qaeda. If that's true, I think about Nick Berg, and I shudder to wonder what the fate of these young men will be. I'm praying that they be found, safe and alive. They are so young. This is so, so sad. 
At the same time, I'm also angered at the fact they were placed in that position in the first place, based on nothing more than George Bush's war of lies and deceit.
Why won't anyone listen to John Murtha? In his very first statement, he said our troops should be redeployed to the periphery. The right wing misrepresented what he said, as usual, and called it *cutting and running,* when what he said was REDEPLOY TO THE PERIPHERY. That's what every mother does when removing the training wheels from her child's first bicycle. She cuts him/her loose but is still there in the background to save him/her if there's trouble. That's what Murtha proposed. But the neocons would rather our troops be killed or tortured. I even read a post somewhere, along the lines of Tony Snow's *2,500 is just number* when referring to American deaths in Iraq, citing something stupid Rush Limbaugh said regarding how many murders take place in the United States and, of course, how many abortions take place, inferring, as well, that 2,500 really isn't that high a number when you compare to murders and abortions. I guess it's their new spin as soldiers' deaths increase, which is deplorable.
The Iraqis need to learn to defend themselves. They can't do that if we're in their way all the time.
And don't forget: We're fighting TWO wars at once, Iraq and Afghanistan. Funny how we don't hear much about bin Laden these days, even though the war is still going on. How much thinner can we spread our military? And could we have gotten bin Laden if we had kept our focus on the people who actually attacked us?
This is just getting worse and worse and worse. I hope our country can survive through 2008 without Bush doing much more damage to it. I will be so relieved when he is out of office and I can finally (hopefully) feel a sense of hope for America.
Polls may not be accurate as pollsters call land...sm
lines and many people only have cell phones.
Potato totally accurate, left out part where
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber#Plumbing_career
This will verify all of Potato's claims, and mine.
I'm not - NOPE.
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Nope...sm
The Billy part was childish but he was right on with his anti-war part of the debate.
Bill was the one who threw his nephew in there and tried to make it like he was being denigrated. Phil simply asked him would he let his children go fight in this war and that's when Bill threw a hissy fit about his nephew.
Remember the factor is a NO SPIN ZONE, but Bill was spinning.
Again, I'll give you the point Billy was childish. I guess that's why he said he would not have Phil back on the show.
Nope!
Nope.
Not overestimating your own ability to debate, be witty and intelligent either, unfortunately. Those insults are really lame. I mean they really are. I can't believe people let you get away with that.
Nope, cuz you are always
Nope I'm not
I'm defending a president who has the courage to do what is right.
God bless GWB. I'm glad he doesn't cower to lilly-livers like you.
Nope. Not a he. nm
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Nope.
My opinion is right. Everyone else is wrong.
Nope..........
If ACORN really was interested in oversight, they would have woke up the first time they were investigated and some of their "followers" indicted for crimes committed. They know this is going on because some of their own workers have spoken out and said they were coerced, threatened, etc., by ACORN heads to go out and do this, and ACORN did what they needed to do to make sure there was no one looking through these false registrations.
It's still happening, so you gonna sit there and tell me they STILL don't now it's going on?
Nope
Steal job...steal food......what's the difference. Apples=apples, oranges=oranges.
Nope, not mad at you, not at all.
not mad at anyone. Just stating a simple fact...I do not trust Obama and I do not respect him simply because he holds the office. He has to earn both. I do not think that any of the democrats here would do any less if McCain had won the election, and I do not think I would be seeing as many unity posts from democrats if McCain had won, which makes me doubt the sincerity.
However, that is not at issue. This is between the President elect and me...as I said, he is the master of his own destiny and my opinion of him going forward will be crafted by him and him alone...not by his followers or detractors.
:-)
Nope
I blame the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the passage of the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act for creating, in large part, the mess we are in today. Without those occurrences, there would not have been 80% of subprime mortages doled out by entities not covered by CRA.
Combine that with the Ponzi scheme of bundling derivatives, and it brings global economy to its knees.
Nope...(sm)
As pointed out I don't know how many times on this board...HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET! I think that both parties would agree that it would send a very conflicting message were both Bush and Obama to attend. That is why he's not going.
Nope I can't
The posters on this board say it all. Some are so in love with the O, others worship the ground he walks on. I'm not putting everyone in the same boat, but for the most part if you read the posts it is a clear love/worship affair they have with the O. I won't categorize you in the same boat because you have shown some good thoughts to your posts, but others do not. And yes it is repulsive.
They do say love is blind and you sure can tell on this board.
I do like your saying though "Good grief gertie". :-)
Nope, she's right on. - nm
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Nope
Not buying it. I certainly can expect to raise my children as I see fit w/o the government coming into my home and taking over. I also can certainly expect, as all parents SHOULD, that the government would have certain regulations and laws about public internet access and pornography. I should NOT have to sit with my 17-year-old son in the library and hold his hand while he is on the computer doing research just because the government has decided that pornography is a God given right and all can see it. I certainly have a RIGHT to expect my government to provide decent public environments in such places as libraries for the good of our children. My parenting skills are my responsibility 100% yes I agree. However, the government has a RESPONSIBILITY to ensure our children are not exposed to this kind of stuff in places such as this. WHY?? Because there are freaks out there that think that anything is okay and they don't care about our children and as long as we have to live in this world with people like that, we should, as parents, be able to DEPEND on our government to keep our children safe and unexposed to trash like this. I mean hey, why dont we just get rid of R rated movies for kids under 17 and then why NOT let any kid of any age go into the adult video stores and do whatever they want. Why not just show porn shows on public TV? I mean, isnt it censorship NOT to allow a TV channel air whatever they want?
Nope yourself.
That's how it works, dear.
Nope....that's not what I said...(sm)
I insinuated that that is how we have evolved, into 2 main separate parties. No, I don't think we have to have 2 parties. One would be fine so long as decisions that are made are made in the best interest of the people. That's one thing I like about Obama, his willingness to work with the other side, regardless of whether or not they return the favor. However, quite frankly, the republican side of the equation is not doing very well. They have managed to stampede all over the constitution (founding father stuff, btw), take away rights, left us with a deficit when they started with a surplus (while they are calling us the spending party), and completely destroyed any credibility we had worldwide. What I see in the democratic party IS common sense.
Nope
My mother was a police officer who killed a man, but she didn't have an abortion, so I guess she is okay then right? What about my dad, grandfather and brother who killed people in the war? Are they okay too? Oh and my uncle who is a police officer, he shot and killed people. Is he okay? I mean a life is a life, right?
Nope.
But I still have my McCain/Palin sticker on my car.
Nope.......
The quran has many many many words said against (hate) Christians and Jews by Mohammed.
Quran 8:39 “So fight them (Arabic quran says murder them) until there is no more Fitnah (sanity; 'disbelief' [ of/to/by non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone".
This is speaking of Christians, Jews, and ANYONE who is not Muslim.
Sounds like love doesn't it?
Nope.....LOL.(sm)
The couple that just had the union would also have the same opportunity to practice whatever ceremony that applied to them, and just like the christians, would not be recognized legally without a union.
Look at it like this (and this is probably a bad analogy, but I'll try it anyway): Everyone has to go to high school (unions), but if they want to go that extra mile to excell they go to college (practice whatever religious beliefs).
And before you guys start, yes, I do know that not everyone goes to high school.
Nope, wrong again! SM
Wrong wrong wrong. That must make you...wrongle! A wrong person. Yassah!
Not true....nope.
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Nope we aren't
you can believe that but it just ain't so...
Nope. Not happy yet.
Most, if not all, of YOUR posts are incredibly tasteless, in addition to being rude, crude, offensive and frequently untrue. Yet, NO liberal has accused you of saying they aren't allowed to speak.
Incredibly tasteless = Not permitted to speak IN WHAT WAY?
Are you agreeing that the poster lied in saying that Army Mom was told she wasn't allowed to speak?
No, of course you're not doing that.
Never mind.
Nope, afraid we can't
as long as libs wan't to dig up dirt we'll continue throwing the mud you throw from your huge pig stye right back at ya...
Nope. Mohammed's. nm
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Nope, just a bad link. sm
It says it is corrupted or something like that. I didn't pay that much attention. It won't open though.
Huckabee...? Nope....
from defintion of facism: Fascist movements usually try to retain some supposedly healthy parts of the nation's existing political and social life, but they place more emphasis on creating a new society. In this way fascism is directly opposed to conservatism—the idea that it is best to avoid dramatic social and political change. Instead, fascist movements set out to create a new type of total culture in which values, politics, art, social norms, and economic activity are all part of a single organic national community.
With all due respect, that sounds much more like where liberals are heading than where conservatives are heading...?
Nope, exactly how I meant it
Pretty self explanatory.
Nope, just honest...get over it!
Nope...but I would like your opinion who...
slur an innocent 16-year-old girl in the name of politics. Personally, I think it reeks, but that is just me.
Nope, thrilled.
Most of the reasons you listed are reasons I would want her in office, including against gun control, against gay marriage, drilling in Alaska, and global warming. And who in the he!! cares what she named her kids. That's just petty. I think if the drive-bys and the dems are in such an uproar about this lady, she must have been the perfect choice.
Nope. Sam is so much smarter than you, which is
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Nope. NOTHING I have, in or out of my body,
YOUR 'god' is not necessarily MY God. My God does not happen to be a judgemental control-freak like your 'god' is.
Nope. Quite the opposite.
Nope, Enlighten me.
I could be an Obama supporter, for all you know.
Nope...see message
The facts are coming out from prominent democrats investigating this. Lawyers, judges, investigators. Michael Savage said to one of the investigators "if you were a republican I would not even have you on the show, and say you're just blowing smoke, but you're a democrat". There are plenty of people who want to know the truth. You've got Baracks own grandmother coming out and saying she was in the room in Kenya when he was born. Because she is so proud of him.
People have to pull their heads out of the sand. This election needs to be haulted, the investigation completed, and if he is not legally qualified to run for the office pick another candidate and then we can move on and we would have a little more faith in the system.
How can anyone consider the election legitimate if your own candidate is not.
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