It was a campaign trip abroad, dear sm....plain and simple.
Posted By: . on 2009-01-07
In Reply to: Errr, that was a trip abroad, not a campaign. - sm
perhaps he accomplished what you say he did, in your eyes. But it was definitely a political trip. A global political trip, no doubt about it.
McCain is ancient history. I'm kinda glad he didn't get elected, as he's shown his true colors of late.
And your third paragraph? Nice try, dear.
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Errr, that was a trip abroad, not a campaign.
Remember when McSame dared him to go and then it backfired because O came out of it smelling like a rose and McSame ended up with egg all over his face? He even made a lame attempt to compete with O that week for media coverage by meeting the Dalai Lama in the middle of the primaries. Last time I checked, the Chinese don't vote either.
Obama was able to casually win the Iraqi govt support for his troop withdrawal plan, looked very diplomatic in Israel when he assured them of continued US support and managed to attract over 200,000 folks in Berlin without batting an eye. See what happened when McSame let campaign bluster, bravado and underestimation of his opponent cloud his strategic judgment?
A red flag would go up for you if the bread on the left side of the toaster came up before the right. You'd have to go measure all the angles and consult the Gemetrial and Bible Code implication of it all.
About that writing on the wall? Probably just another visual hallucination. Pay it no mind. It's not real.
Plain and simple............
If you're black or minority in this country, you can run your mouth all you want and make racial jokes and say nasty things and we are all supposed to look the other way but if you make a joke or say anything that is remotely considered racial (which is anything when speaking of someone black), then AL Sharpton and every other nutjob comes out of the wood work to run their huge mouths. No one is going to probably do anything about Letterman, because he is a loud mouth liberal piece of crap and Palin seems to be an obsession with him. Why doesn't he make nasty jokes about the Obama girls and see where that gets him. For that matter, why is everyone in such an uproar over the gorilla remark if blacks and liberal whites are allowed to get by with their nasty racial and biased remarks?
Always a double standard! They want their cake and eat it too!
Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...
We do have free speech but it is wrong to make things up about people. Didn't your mom teach you that? The stuff about Palin and Bush are facts. What you put about Obama being compared to Hitler is trouble making slander and liable and hateful. I won't even respond to you anymore on this board because it gives attention to a person who doesn't deserve it. All I can say is OBAMA WON AND THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM SO TOUGH NOOGIES.
Obama is just trouble....plain and simple.
There are so many things that I don't agree with him on. You can't raise taxes for small businesses in this time of crisis. You can't have all of these government assisted programs and only tax the rich because that won't be enough to cover all the expenses. He will have to tax us all including the middle class which he professes to want to help even though "spreading the wealth" will keep us down in the middle class because we won't be able to afford to make it into the upper tax bracket. Basically his plans are aimed to help the lowlife scum who don't want to work. As for his healthcare......like Oldtimer said below.....you can't make insurance companies pay for pre-existing conditions like that. If no one wants to pay for health insurance until they have a major illness.....these insurance companies are supposed to pay for a pre-existing condition when this person is just now paying insurance premiums. The insurance companies won't have any money to pay out if that is how it will work because no one will want to pay for insurance until something major happens. It just won't work that way because it can't.
Obama is a socialists through and through. I'm tired of the media and his supporters ignoring his associations. I'm tired of people throwing up the race card. It is just absolutely ridiculous. Just because I'm a white woman not voting for Obama....that doesn't make me racist. Yet you never hear about the people voting for Obama just because he is black.....is that not also racist?
This whole election is just screwed up. I hope to God that this next debate has something in it worth watching and I hope McCain tears Obama a new butthole!
Being called gay is an insult, plain and simple.
It's even used in popular slang as an insult, i.e. 'that's gay'. They are NOT accepted in mainstream society or they wouldn't have to be making such a stink right now trying to become accepted. It is deviant behavior, and deviant behavior should not be legal. Whatever you do behind your own closed doors is your business, but that's where it should stay.
It was a witch hunt plain and simple. But the bad thing about it???
He just commuted their sentences. They will not get their jobs back again because they were not pardoned. I did not know there was a difference, but evidentally there is. So....they might be walking free, but who's going to pay all the bills? And make up for all the missing family times? Not Bush 2 that's for sure. Nor the "Anointed One." He has his own set of problems.
au contraire.....what they do on the conservative board is bash the left....plain and simple. I thi
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She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.
Where did you get your debating skills? On the south side of Chicago in some street gang? Because if you did, it shows.
In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks. Yet, that's all you people know how to do. You can't stay on the issue. You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years. In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity.
As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you. Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers). If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker. You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere. It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn.
As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found. Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time. Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums. Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.
Have a pleasant evening. 
Obama proganda is alive and well in the U.S. and abroad....sm
He can do no wrong....ever.
Traveling abroad, working out...is a little different than running a country...sm
Being president at 72 is a lot more stressful than someone in their 80s enjoying their golden years traveling and working out.
Yes, he endured five years of torture and he is respected for that but he also wasn't 72 when he it happened. He was a very young man at the time and AGAIN the man is respected for that and that's all we owe him our respect NOT our vote!
Closing Gitmo is not as simple as simple
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simple exercise or simple mind
ever heard of thyroid dysfunction, ever heard of drugs that cause weight gain (such as steroids) or any other cause for obesity? Don't be so self-righteous.
Obama's campaign called McCain's campaign.
This was reported an hour or two before McCain had his little news conference. Shouldn't take to heart too much of what McCain says as he is a known liar.
Wonder if this is her first trip
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Mr. Obama's trip
I don’t have time to watch the news but I try to when I can. Before Mr. Obama took the trip, they were talking a lot about Mr. McCain and how many trips he took. I think it made Mr. Obama feel like he had to go there. I remember Mr. McCain saw all those military people since he wants us to stay in Iraq. Mr. Obama talks about diplomacy a lot so he met with all those leaders because he wants to stop the war. I don’t understand why you are talking about Mrs. Obama. The news people talk bad about her too. She said she didn’t mean what some of those other people thought she said. I don’t like to hear all the negative things. They make everything more confusing. I like to listen to the candidates tell who they are and what they would do if they are elected. Mr. Obama talks about what he wants to do for the country on his web site and in his speeches. I guess that advisor made a mistake but somebody corrected him. I like the town hall meetings. People get to ask questions there. Thank your reply.
You guys are a trip...
Maybe I'll send him some money because I can't believe he's not spending more. Oh maybe he's frugal... Darn it!
Dear Mr. President (Barack or is it Barry):
CHEERS!!! 
Sincerely,
A voter who is all for the CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!! 
O's trip to Riyadh
Did you see the gold necklace O got from King Abdullah?
Wow! It is ver long and looks very heavy and it is at least 18k if not 24k.
The box alone is big as a table!
An appropriate gift for O !
Obamaramarama trip
Yeah, isn't that nice. I am glad we were asked to pay for this. I am not surprised. They are liars and they are the worst example of leadership this country has ever seen. What Americans are waiting for, I just don't know. They don't seem too concerned about Korea either. He will do what he did with the Pirates. After the Navy took over and cleaned up, he stepped up to the plate to act as if he was there all along; while he was actually mustering up his communist friends acceptance and friendship for his own hidden purposes. So much for his promises. I guess, NO HE CAN'T AND WON'T.
Did ya ever think it could be a school field trip?
Most high school kids don't get a chance to see a presidential until they are of voting age.
I don't put any faith in anything MSNBC writes or talks about. They are are for the O.
Obama's trip to Hawaii.
So you would have Obama take is chidren out of school in the middle of the week, fly them 4250 miles on a 10-hour plane trip for a jet-lagged 1 day sick bed visit with a bed-bound frail elder who was released from the hospital with a broken hip just 2 short months after they had spent quality time together on a private family vacation, when GM was probably looking a whole lot better than she does now? After that, you would have him turn right around the next day and take another 10-hour 4250 mile plane trip back home while trying to come up with answers about "what's wrong with grandma"?
There is a very strong possibilty that these children will have their lives changed forever next week should they become the nation's first family. They will be thrust into the bright glare of media scrutiny, pack up all their things, leave the only home they have ever known, say goodbye to all their friends and prepare to take off for DC in the middle of the holidays and move into the White House. Hopefully, they will not have to be greiving the loss of their grandmother in the middle of all that.
If these were my children, I would want to presevere the memory of the family vacation and protect them from premature greiving over the impending loss. I feel sorry for people who live in such a hateful frame of mind all the time that they could be so thoughtless as to not even consider what they might be doing with their own children in a similar circumstance.
Bush couldn't orchestrate a trip to
the bathroom. 
Memo to Hillary: Road Trip!
Memo to Hillary: Road trip to that place between King City and Coalingo
Dear Hillary:
I know you've been real busy with sniper fire and 3:00 a.m. phone calls, etc., but have you ever seen that commercial for AT&T internet service, where the guy says he's on the road between "King City and Coalingo" (sp?) (There are several commercials out there for this product, and the theme for them is people's "moments.")
In the one I'm referring to, there's a guy is standing near a big field with a bunch of cows, explaining how his service lets him do business anywhere, and after he's through explaining how it works and how his bid was the first one in, he gets a text message and says, "It looks like I got the account."
An old man appears and says, "Congratulations on your moment."
Hillary, PLEASE drive yourself have your chauffeur drive you (with or without your cell phone) to that field "between King City and Coalingo" and take a L-O-N-G walk through that field. (Be sure to fill up have one of your servants fill your gas tank first.) Pet a cow or two. Resist the urge to whip out that gun yer granddaddy taught you how to shoot if you become hungry for a filet mignon; maybe you could make a have your maid make a PBJ before your departure (you know, the kind of food that more and more of us hard-working white people are forced to rely on in today's economy). Along the way, don't be afraid to step into the very thing that comprises your soul. Take a deep breath (lots of them). Try to place yourself into Barack Obama's shoes (sans cow dung) and explore WHY it is that YOU believe you must control everything -- even when you're the loser. Why is it that YOU think YOU get to dictate the terms of everything, even if you don't have the right to do so?
You have repeatedly said you're "in it to win it." You didn't win it. Now pretend to have some grace and/or just some personal decency and do NOT try to strong-arm the person who DID win it. There are a lot of women who would be good Vice Presidential candidates, all of whom believe in and would be loyal to President Obama, none of them potential orphan-makers.
Take a good, long look at those cows, Hillary. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about "moments." Hopefully, you'll even learn a thing or two about yourself.
Edited by Moderator for aggressive and strange language.
They forgot to mention what it was for & Afghanistan was part of the trip-a lot for 1 wk
Indeed, in a February 17 article, the ANSA English Media Service reported (accessed from the Nexis database): "Since arriving in Italy on Saturday, Pelosi has visited the American air base at Aviano in northeast Italy and the American military cemetery in Florence and is due at the NATO Joint Forces Command in Naples Wednesday." Further, a February 19 press release issued by Pelosi's office stated: "Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Congressional delegation today were briefed by U.S. Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe and Africa, and Commander of Allied Joint Force Command Naples. Admiral Fitzgerald and his NATO staff provided information on NATO activities in the Balkans, the ongoing training of Iraqi Security Forces, and operations against pirates off the coast of Somalia." The release further stated: "On Saturday, Speaker Pelosi and the Congressional delegation visited Aviano Air Base where the Speaker pinned the Bronze Star Medal on Technical Sergeant Phoebus Lazaridis for extraordinary service in Afghanistan. The delegation paid their respects to the more than 4,400 American World War II soldiers buried at the Florence American Cemetery on the outskirts of Florence on Sunday."
On February 21, Pelosi released a statement about her trip to Afghanistan, in which she said, "For the past two days, I have led an eight Member House delegation to Afghanistan to visit U.S. troops," during which the delegation "met with U.S. military leaders, and the U.S. Diplomatic team in Kabul to better assess the best course of action to further our national security interests in preparation for the completion of President Obama's strategic review of the Afghanistan policy" and "met with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is sending his own advisors to Washington as part of the review process."
Three months after birth of baby Trip, SP's daughter and boyfriend kaput!
Now did anyone see that coming or is that just something out of the blue? My goodness, would have never believed that. They really seemed like good heads on their shoulders, graduates, college bound, career-minded, responsible. Really shocking to me.
They can't, sam, or just plain don't want to. nm
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And you are just plain genious - right??? sm
Widge, I was as nonconfrontational as not to even post my opinion under your comment to heartsick, and I'm the dingbat just because you don't like my opinion. LOL. Go for something more original next time.
Seriously, you are not the only person I have heard say that, or else I would not have paid it much attention. That statement has become government policy, rhetoric, whatever you want to call it on Iraq, which would be agreeable if it were directed to our efforts against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The people who attacked us on 9-11 followed us into Iraq, not the other way around. You were there in the beginning so you know that is true.
The jury is still out on whether Iraq is a safer and better place as a result of the war, but I hope you are right.
It may come as a surprise to you, but I don't want us to up and leave the Iraqi people stranded either. We owe them more than that, even though we have given much already. I don't want two generations from now to be fighting a stagnant war in Iraq either. The other points you brought up are either debatable or agreed.
Sam, you are just plain wrong. That is just...sm
more republican propaganda.
There's plain ol' rich, and then there's
Like yer Wall Street execs, bank CEO's, etc. Even worse our this nation's spoiled, mollycoddled pro athletes.
Does any of their wealth trickle down to us? Nope. The more tax breaks and loopholes they get, the more we have to take up the slack and fill in the gaps.
If they can pay a football player $38 million to play a stupid game, then I think those of us who actually work for a living should at least get a few more cents per line.
Now this is just plain ignorant
Of course we'll be taxed REGARDLESS of which figurehead gets put in office.
Get a clue though my friend, the REpublicans are NO friend to the average working JOE (plumber or otherwise). Do you for a New York second think the party who represents the RICH is really going to come to the aid of the middle and lower class? Give that a rest. Democrats are a hair better and that is NOTHING to brag about.
And while you 're at, how about documenting the bill in which you Obama voted to pass - so that we can read the details for ourselves. We can do our own research but if YOU are goign to make claims like this you at least have to tell us thebill in question, and WHERE you got your information.
LOL! Either desperate or just plain sloppy.
Are THEY just plain stupid or do they think WE are? 
I think a lot of the naysayers or just plain green...
She's got so much going for her, and you all are so jealous of her, that you just can't stop yourselves from been mean with green envy.
She's got it all.....she knew how to make it happen for herself, and just went and did it.
Not even can say that, now can they?
Not 'scared'. Just plain p!ssed-off, after
watching Dubya and his little friends do more harm to this country and its citizens in 8 years than it will be able to recover from in 20.
And you're just plain rude to her again and again...sm
Didn't the moderator tell you guys to stop it, for like, the umpteenth time this past week?
Leave sam alone, geez.
Gist = Just plain racist.
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This is just plain silly. You are wrong. nm
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but calling someone plain ignorant is okay? whatever!
nm.
You're being just plain ridiculous.
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Say what you like, this country is plain giddy
and I am right along with others in Obama being sworn in tomorrow. Even other countries are anticipating the new person being there. Bush has been a disaster for dealing with other nations and I personally am so happy and yes, giddy, that Obama already has such a high rating and as being seen by people who they now feel can perhaps get this country back in shape. People who are still fighting amongst themselves really need to stop and take heed. He is here, the majority are very happy and bashing him is doing no good. I am taking off tomorrow and seeing my new President sworn in!
This is just plain crap - see message
Anytime anyone says anything that doesn't elate the messiah you scream racism.
Statement - "I don't like his policies". Your reply - "your a racist".
Statement - "The people he picked for his cabinet are not qualified" - Your reply - "your a racist".
Statement - "He lied to us in his campaign. Offered us hope but there is no hope." - Your reply - "your a racist".
Statement - "We're tired of him spending money that hasn't even been printed yet". Your reply - "your a racist".
Statement - "It's about time we have someone of a different race in the WH". Your reply - "Right on. I agree with you."
This racist bull is getting old and so untrue, but whenever you can't argue with something you scream racism. GET OVER IT! We have. Enough with this "racism" thing. If you can't bring a conversation then just don't say anything, but please spare me with the racism crap.
Dem, you're just a plain dingbat. What I meant and what
you should have been able to process is that I would rather war not occur on US soil. Saddam brutally murdered mass numbers of people. I believe he had WMD, but it doesn't matter what I think or what other people think because the proof that he did have WMD was clear with the murder of all those people. Take a look at some of the few survivors and see that scars that remain. Oh, and let's not forget about one of his favorite pasttimes, beheading. That sick SOB had connections in several countries and was a serious threat to every single country on the planet. A person has to be absolutely stupid to think that all going to Iraq was and is about is oil. The people of Iraq are liberated, they're free, they're voting, all things they never dreamed of having under Saddam's rule. Are there still problems with insurgants? Absolutely. Change doesn't happen overnight, it takes time and that's why our men and women are still there. Their job isn't done. If you ask service people what they think, they'll tell you the same thing. My cousin, by marriage, is a major in the Army, been in the service for 18 years, and knows that it's not time for President Bush to pull the troops out yet. So, now that I've posted my 2 cents, I'm going to add that I'm not Republican, I'm not Democrat, I don't vote by party, I vote by who I think will get the job done. I mentioned that because I don't want readers thinking that I MUST be a Republican just because of what I posted.
just plain rude - keep 'em coming
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Nancy Pelosi is just plain disgusting. How did she
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The essence of their outrage is hijacked by just plain hatred.
hatred of Bush, anything to do with Bush. The mere mention of his name causes the bile to rise and the red mist to engulf them. They hate, hate, hate. They blame, blame, blame. It's what they do. There is no having conversations with them. They don't see reason. They don't see fairness. They see nothing but hate.
That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Well, I gotta tell ya - nothing is more creepy to me than Ann Coulter - now that's plain SCARY!
Protocol, etiquette (and plain good sense)
Is there no one advising the prez & co. on protocol and/or etiquette or even basic manners anymore?
When you bow to a monarch, you are placing yourself as one of his subjects, or at least as subordinate in rank.
On the other hand (no pun intended) when a gentleman meets a lady, (not just a queen) it is proper for him to wait for the woman to initiate contact. A man waits for the woman to extend her hand for shaking...or not. And only a dolt of either gender puts his/her arm around somebody to whom s/he has just been introduced. Puh-leeze!
I know that some adjusments have been made in the business setting, but this does not take the place of knowing the proper thing to do in a social or political situation. I do not think the rules of manners and civility have changed overnight, have they?
Now you're just plain rude. To try to belittle someone while spewing hatred.
First, you don't know me. Your insinuating that I have a crutch to fall on (religion). Sorry to debunk your theory but I'm not religious. I don't believe in your god.
Second, I don't listen to any of the leaders. If you've read any of my posts I've always stated I don't trust any of the politicians. I also read a wide variety of articles and I have an open mind and listen to every possibility. When you just pick one side and won't listen to everything you cut yourself off from the truth.
Third, for you to say "the most hideous and evil deeds in history have been done by people like me?" That is just downright rude (and I would say your remarks are hideous and evil, and that's putting it nicely).
You sure are one piece of work. And all because of what? I posted a link with some facts about your candidate you didn't like? This is why I belong to no political party (and no religious party). You'd probably eat it up and praise me if I put something negative about McCain (which I have also done).
I agree with another poster that said intolerance is the worse religion.
I also agree with the moderator who has said no more attacks on people. You need to read that post. After this post you will no longer be in my thoughts.
Hope your proud of your hateful and cruel comments. We all have our opinions. Guess I'm just shocked because this I think has to be one of the worst posts I've read so far. Never knew anyone to be so cruel and evil for them to say such things.
Here, here!!! It sure isn't that simple.
I remember when I used to be 18 and the world was black and white, and I thought I knew everything.
The older I got, the more gray I saw, and the less I knew.
I figure at this rate, in a few years, I'm not gonna know nuttin!!! LOL
I know exactly what you mean about screaming out at the TV, too!!! LOL. (I wonder, if I turned down the sound on the TV and opened the windows, whether I'd hear a bunch of other people screaming, too.)
I still don't know if I can bring myself to watch him. I just hope that every single soldier, whether seeing him personally at Fort Bragg or watching him on television somewhere, is able to return to their families safely and without injuries. I have a feeling it's going to be the soldiers who really attract my attention, and I always cry when I see them, knowing how they've been betrayed by their "commander in chief." Our military deserves much better than "chimpboy." (Laughing at and agreeing with that term.)
It isn't that simple. sm
When Chavez held Chomsky's book up at the UN, the headlines the next day said his book was selling out. Exactly who has the power here?
Yes, very simple.
Plainly speaking, why do you post in a political forum if your posts are not politically motivated?
Look, it is very simple....
Bush has not broken the law. Clinton did. He committed felony perjury. I don't care that he jumped Monica Lewinsky. Ihate it for her and I hate it for Hillary but that is nothing to impeach a man for. What he was impeached for is obstruction of justice and felony perjury. If Bush had done that you would be calling for his head on a pike. So let's not pretend you wouldn't...waste of time. That is the difference between you and me. Nixon, a Republican, broke the law. But he had at least one iota of integrity left and resigned. Clinton lied through is teeth, broke the law. If he had just said, yeah, I jumped Monica, sorry, no harm no foul, it would have gone away. But he chose not to. And even after the impeachment hearings proved him guilty, they all ADMITTED he was guilty, they did not (Congress) have the guts NOR the integrity to convict him, and I mean Dems AND Republicans. That is the difference, again, between you and me. If it is wrong, it is wrong, and the political party of the person makes no difference to me. If George Bush committed perjury on national TV I would be calling for his resignation as well. One would hope he would have the integrity to resign BEFORE he was impeached if he did so.
Bashing Clinton? Did I lie? I stated the truth, in response to someone posting, for no apparent reason, that Bush was a dumba$$ and an embarrassment. I countered and said that I felt like a morally bankrupt lying perjurer was just as embarrasing.
Why aren't you getting on the other poster for bashing Bush? Ohhhhhh I understand...okay to bash Bush, NOT okay to bash Clinton. What is that again about liberal tolerance, no bigotry, freedom of speech, we love everybody doctrine? How does that go?
Simple as that.
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