if we were all sheep we would be voting for another

• Great headlines - Go Obama! - MT
  • obama's church - sm
    • please disregard most of my post, as I should have - checked with snopes first...VERY sorry...NM
  • SM, better links than supplied by OPs - he's not fond of israel, something to think abo
    • Uh-huh, better or biased? - -nm
  • and I too had to pass on this info - More on Mr. Barack Obama....sm msg
    • Actually - Taiga
      • excrement comes in all cultures/colors/ - religious AND political parties/rallying.....SM
        • That it does! - Taiga
          • By the way - Taiga
            • Don't waste your breath. No one with a modicum of sense can honestly - Libby
              • The Vietnam Vets call McCain "Songbird." sm - LVMT
                • Yep, the "if its true" factor. - -Libby
              • Of course, you are right. - Taiga
    • well - Well
  • looks like a bunch of sheep to me living in USA..sm - if they all jumped off a bridge, would ya follow?
    • if we were all sheep we would be voting for another - white man
      • duh yourself - Barack IS 50% white... LOL - no message
        • that doesn't make him white...my son is half black - I don't consider him white or black
          • interesting that everyone behind him on TV - sitting around him is white....sm
            • Well my son is being raised in an all white family (stepdad) - and mostly all white neighborhood
              • from his teens on he was raised by maternal - sitting around him is white....sm
          • It was brought in because - nana
        • oops above post have said sm message, not NM - sm message
    • We do have minds of our own - MT
      • You said, - nana
        • Obama Rated the Most Liberal Senator - linda
          • Liberal: A definition. - -sm
            • Which candidate meets this definition? sm - LVMT
          • newsflash - OMG - ExMQMT
          • well then that's good news for us liberals!!! - that's why this is a liberal board....n/m
            • obama--mega lib - linda

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hmmmmm....?  Just because everyone is voting for Barack doesn't make any of it right - they all are bad candidates to some of us......

blechhhhhhhhhhhhh

JMO.........no flames required......

Harriet Miers: Antonin Scalia in sheep's clothing

Of course, if you listen to most conservatives, Harriet Miers is as dangerous as a card-carrying member of the ACLU. I'm disappointed, depressed and demoralized, huffed the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol. Her qualifications for the Supreme Court are nonexistent, puffed former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan.

Nonsense.

Make no mistake about it. This decision is too important. Replacing William Rehnquist with John Roberts was a wash. It's this appointment, to fill the shoes of swing-vote Sandra Day O'Connor, that will determine the future direction of the Supreme Court. Karl Rove never would have let George Bush nominate Miers if he didn't know she agreed with Bush on every issue.

It's not hard to figure out how Bush decided on Miers. If elected president, he promised in 2000, he would appoint to the Supreme Court justices like extreme conservatives Antonin Scalia or Clarence Thomas. John Roberts didn't fit the bill, so Bush knew he had to deliver this time around. But he also knew any one of the names on the conservatives' wish list -- Michael Luttig, Edith Jones or Janice Rogers Brown -- would stir up a firestorm in the Senate, which Bush wanted to avoid.

So Bush came up with Plan B, as brilliant as it is diabolical: Nominate someone who is every bit as conservative as Luttig, Jones or Brown, privately, but who is a complete mystery, publicly. And that's Harriet Ellan Miers. The perfect stealth candidate. Antonin Scalia in sheep's clothing.

In case you still harbor any doubts about her right-wing credentials, here's final proof. After four days of complaints from the far right, Karl Rove got on the phone to leading conservatives, starting with James Dobson, head of Focus on the Family. Rove convinced him to support Miers, Dobson confirmed, by giving him confidential information on her religious beliefs. Miers, like Bush, is an evangelical Christian.

Notice how the White House plays the religion card both ways. It was wrong for Democrats to raise the fact John Roberts is a Catholic, they argued, just one month ago.

Notice also what their doing so tells us about Harriet Miers. She's a soul mate of James Dobson, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. She's anti-choice, anti-stem cell research, anti-separation of church and state, pro-school prayer and pro-teaching intelligent design in public-school science classes. She's way out of the mainstream.

So what are Democrats waiting for? They know enough about Miers already to merit all-out opposition -- including the filibuster, if necessary. And they'd better act fast.

If Harriet Miers is confirmed, we'll be yearning for the good old days of moderate William Rehnquist.

Bill Press is host of the nationally syndicated Bill Press Show. His e-mail address is: bill@billpress.com.


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you blast the tea parties and try to downplay their significance.  The sentiment behind the tea party is that we shouldn't be part of any flock!  We should be thinking on our own.  We shouldn't hide behind party lines and blindly follow our politicians to our ruin, republican or democrat! 

Geez, talk about totally blind.  If it doesn't have a big fat O stamped on it, you won't listen.  Just a bunch of freaking robots.... O rhetoric goes in and nothing relevant comes out!  I thought you lefties were "intellectuals" and "free thinkers."  Now you're just Obama groupies clinging to his empty promise of hope and change!  Grow a brain!  Exercise your brain cells and THINK!

Please direct me to where in the Constitution that it says that voting is a RIGHT?  It is not a right.  We have a right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness!!

but I tend agree with you.  I think it is sad race still matters all these years later, rather depressing really.  You can keep your nose clean, do all of the right things according to society's standards and color still matters.  Why?  Who cares about color what about his policies? Shouldn't they matter more?

blessings,

Small polling place, only 4 machines, 1 of which was already belly up and I was just 15th in line.  Anyway, vote is in, and I didn't vote a straight party one button.  I punched each one separately...I wanted to savor the moment!  :-)

I have enjoyed the debate and I for one am glad there are so many in our profession engaged in the process and concerned for the country, no matter which side you fall on.  So, hats off to you, and may the best man and woman win! :-)

you should be ashamed for posting such a hateful insulting post

Sam:  Would you have posted this is McCain had won??

Go Ron Paul!

Would love to see a true statesman like Ron Paul be President of our country.

that your vote is based on the dislike of an anonymous poster on a tiny little chat board, it was not worth much anyway.

From the beginning, I've always known I would not vote for Obama.  His plans will not work.  He will destroy small businesses with his taxes causing loss of jobs.  His plans of taking from the rich to give to the poor will only enable the low-life scum we have in this country to remain lazy and worthless.  His associations with certain individuals and his membership for 20 years to a church designed on black power and the hate of whites........I cannot trust this man to be the commander and chief.  I do not agree with his plans for healthcare.  I do not agree with his extremist view point on abortion.  I do not condone gay marriage.  I cannot under good conscience vote for Barack Obama.  If we elect Barack Obama to be the president, we will sorely regret it. 

So bash me as you will.  Obviously, from posts below, this is a support Obama political board and should anyone differ......OMG....you should be thrown off of the board.  You all have been sucked into this mainstream media love affair with a man that we cannot trust, a man who doesn't have the experience, and a man who promises change that he cannot bring.  The one thing I can agree with Obama is this.....his campaign does give me hope.....it gives me hope that enough people get their heads out of their butts and John McCain wins this election and becomes the next President of the United States of America!!!! 

Go McCain & Palin!!!! 

Since everyone is at least a bit familiar with John McCain’s record when it comes to strolling through a market in Baghdad with hundreds of his closest guards, or how he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years (except when he flip flops on that).

But not that many really, truly know just how horrific his voting record is when it comes to the troops.  And it is pretty consistent – whether it is for armor and equipment, for veteran’s health care, for adequate troop rest or anything that actually, you know, supports our troops.

This is chock full of links to the roll call votes, and the roll call votes have links to the actual underlying bills and amendments.  I present this so that there is support and things that can be rattled off when saying that McCain is not a friend of the military.  Feel free to use it as you want, but this can be tied into the "Double Talk Express".  But here is a very quick statement - John McCain skipped close to a dozen votes on Iraq, and on at least another 10 occasions, he voted against arming and equipping the troops, providing adequate rest for the troops between deployments and for health care or other benefits for veterans.

In mid 2007, Senator Reid noted that McCain missed 10 of the past 14 votes on Iraq.  However, here is a summary of a dozen votes (two that he missed and ten that he voted against) with respect to Iraq, funding for veterans or for troops, including equipment and armor.  I have also included other snippets related to the time period when the vote occurred.

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.  At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.

July 2007:  McCain voted against a plan to drawdown troop levels in Iraq.  At the time, an ABC poll found that 63% thought the invasion was not worth it, and a CBS News poll found that 72% of respondents wanted troops out within 2 years.

March 2007: McCain was too busy to vote on a bill that would require the start of a drawdown in troop levels within 120 days with a goal of withdrawing nearly all combat troops within one year.  Around this time, an NBC News poll found that 55% of respondents indicated that the US goal of achieving victory in Iraq is not possible.  This number has not moved significantly since then.

February 2007:  For such a strong supporter of the escalation, McCain didn’t even bother to show up and vote against a resolution condemning it.  However, at the time a CNN poll found that only 16% of respondents wanted to send more troops to Iraq (that number has since declined to around 10%), while 60% said that some or all should be withdrawn.  This number has since gone up to around 70%.

June 2006:  McCain voted against a resolution that Bush start withdrawing troops but with no timeline to do so.

May 2006:  McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

April 2006:  McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

March 2006:  McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

March 2004:  McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes.  Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans' needs.

October 2003:  McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.

April 2003:  McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

August 2001:  McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.  To his credit, he also voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, which he now supports making permanent, despite the dire financial condition this country is in, and despite the fact that he indicated in 2001 that these tax cuts unfairly benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class.

So there it is.  John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military.  Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military.  If he can’t even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn’t have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?

you will need to keep things like OBAMA and OSAMA straight.  The political system was based on the assumption that voters would know the difference between a tall black man running for president and a tall man in a sheet running for cover.  Study up.  Only a few more weeks . . . I'm betting you can do it.