that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
Posted By: I don't consider him white or black on 2008-02-12
In Reply to: duh yourself - Barack IS 50% white... LOL - no message
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.
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They voted for him because he was half white?
that is the stupidest thing I have ever read. And you speak for the majority? Get real.
LOL! Yes, black and white =
only. Too bad it's not a black and white, good or bad world. The you're either with us or against us philosophy has not served us well in the world community and here at home your patriotism is questioned simply because you ask questions. But it's our mission to spread democracy. God help us.
He is both black AND white.
Not that it matters and your not the only one but people keep referring to Barack as a "black" man without acklowdeging that he is also half white (50/50). His mother was as white as they come. I don't feel we are electing a black man (or a white man). I feel we are electing a capable man.
what does black and white have to do with it?
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Nothing to do with black or white there....has to do
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Black and White
People and organizations often try to condense life into a black and white little box. It's way too gray for that.
One thing I discovered as I got older ... just because people or organizations come on strong doesn't mean they know what they are talking about or have good ideas.
I was always shy and figured the people who were forceful were such because the knew their $#it. Sooo not true. :)
black and white thinking
in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence. Beware.
Don't know how you can accuse me of only seeing black and white...
in view of all these posts. You really think calling someone a redneck and Nascar and a religious wacko is appropriate way to talk about issues?
They quote the bill of rights but ignore the one about freedom of religion...they hawk choice but you mention choice of the child and they tear the hide off you in strips...usually telling you to go back to your church, bible-thumper, etc., as if all pro-life people are grounded in religion. THat is simply NOT the truth...there are liberal pro-lifers who believe ALL life is sacred...and not from a liberal point of view, but a moral one.
And you can still post to me that to ME everything is black and white. I am perfectly willing and have been perfectly willing to debate issues. THey just do not tolerate a dissenting opinion, if you debate policies they take it as a personal affront to Obama...what was that you said about total agreement with a platform...?
No, frankly, I don't see it. But there will probably be more posts after yours high-fiving you for lecturing me.
Have a good evening.
There are always those people out there, black and white
who just do not understand anything and never will.
This is an ignorant statement. Black or white,
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For those who wish to read his speech in black and white
The paragraph I don't like is the following:
"We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort - even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.
It clearly gives an open door for the terrorists to test him.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/20/president-obamas-inaugural-address/
Some things just simply are right/wrong, black/white, yes/no.
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People aren't generally black and white.
Only in some Hollywood movies are people all good or all bad. I'm sure Chavez is capable some good or at least middle-of-the-road words/deeds. And I have to say that some stuff Chomsky has written pre-Iraq war was actually pretty good (now I said SOME stuff here, not ALL). It's very hard for me to give blanket condemnation of just about anyone (with the exception of serial killers, etc.).
It also occurs to me that you may possibly consistently hold up Chomsky, Churchill and now Chavez (the three C's) as examples of how the left is crazy. Well, I think most sane people know that they don't represent the vast majority of liberals. I think deep down you know that, too.
You just don't get it. There are black, white, brown and purple Christians...sm
Muslims, Jews, etc. Some want McCain to win and some want Obama to win, hopefully not based on color, ethnicity or religion but on what they envision is best for our country.
The case of identifying oneself white or black ---
You know, I know that most people do not understand the situation. I know you may have "black friends", "mixed friends", "white friends", and therefore you think you know how they feel about their color, but you just don't.
First let me say, I am white - BUT I am married to a black man, I have 2 mixed grandchildren, 4 mixed stepchildren, both my sisters are married to black men, and I have 4 mixed nieces and nephews, and I have countless friends with black children, white children, and mixed children.
Now, each one of those children identify with one race or another - they see themselves as just people when they are younger, but as they age they "pick" a side... and I see it in every one of them.
My 4 year old grandson (who looks like a black child) has just this week asked why we have to hang out with black people all the time, that they are mean (he does not realize yet that he is also black)... my 13 year old nephew (who looks like a black child) had a girlfriend whose parents would not let them talk to each other because he is black; my 14 year old nephew (who looks white) has no problems talking to the white girls if he wants to because their families all think he is white (have actually heard people say, "boy that white boy plays ball like he's black).
My point is that most of the time, a mixed child always identifies more with one race or another and that it is predominantly the race that they look like. I don't think that it is wrong for Obama to feel like he was ingratiating himself to the white people because I see it happening in mixed kids all the time. They have to act "white" to be accepted by white people - it's just a fact.
Obama's mother is white, his father was black, making him an oreo.
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So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm
I know I just took an inhouse job that pays me half what I make at home -
I am getting desperate to ensure that I have at least some income. My home-based job line counts are so low lately and I know it is because people are staying home. I am the only money maker in the family and I have to do something.
I am in college to get a degree to get out of this education, but have at least 3 quarters more before I am employable, and then who knows if I will be able to find a job then or not; with the way things are looking, more than likely NOT...
I wonder how it is going to help/hurt the economy and the illegal alien problem - I mean, will it make them go home or will they just draw more benefits off our government? If they go home, does that hurt or or help us?
I am being serious here - not trying to start an argument - just doing some thinking.
They will make up for all the racists who just voted against him BECAUSE HE IS BLACK
so it should be even
good-evil, white cowboy hat black cowboy hat
Wouldnt it be great if the world was black-white, good-evil..Gee, life would be so simple. The good guys could wear the white cowboy hat, the bad guys the black one. I ache for simpler times, like...maybe the 1990s, when we werent the biggest terrorist country on the earth with the number one terrorist sitting in the White House and the world still respected America.
doesn't make me look bad
duh
not it's not, but that doesn't make it right.
It is possible that change could go both ways.
Doesn't make it right. nm
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It doesn't make it right but
obviously it shows that in that instance Obama agreed with Bush or he wouldn't have voted for it. Now Obama ridicules Bush for doing such a sucky job and saying we shouldn't repeat things that didn't work and now we have this stimulus package? He says Bush doubled the deficit and part of the deficit added was the bailout which Obama voted for. So shouldn't he be held accountable for adding to the deficit during Bush's term since he voted for it? These double standards by you O worshipers just kills me.
Doesn't make it right.......... sm
Have you ever noticed that certain behaviors have a stigma attached to them by society?
Have you never wondered why homosexuals stayed in the closet for the most part even 30 or 40 years ago?
Have you ever wondered why, if there is nothing whatsoever wrong with homosexuality, so many people choose to hide that part of their lives from their families and friends for fear of disapproval?
The answer to all of the above questions is because homosexual behavior is not natural and considered deviant behavior. Before you call me homophobic, let me tell you that I have 2 gay cousins, 1 on each side of my family, and I love them dearly but I do not approve of their sexual preference.
Still doesn't make it right that
they have no clue where the money is.
That's nice but it doesn't make any
Bush has promised to veto the bill, so this country will be stuck in backwards mode until 2008 when we have a competent president.
Bush doesn't care what 75% of Americans want. He only caters to one narrow unreasonable religious group. He doesn't care that a cure might be on the horizon that might save countless children from juvenile diabetes or cure Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or who knows what else if it can't be researched.
All he wants to do is send our kids to die in Iraq. He's a disgrace. 
Doesn't make it true.
For everyone of these, I can produce two in opposition.
It appears now that the surge is working, eight months afterward; however, because conditions are slowing getting better in Iraq is not because of the surge. It is a combination of things, the first and foremost that the United States is finally coming to the realization that the only way to get the country of Iraq back on its feet is to ALLOW the Iraqi's to take control in their OWN way and not under the strict edicts of the United States. Now that we are loosening the noose, things are coming together.
To solidify my point:
"All of Petraeus’ work on the subject of counterinsurgency, however, along with the things he himself was saying somewhat subtly, all pointed toward the conclusion that peace in Iraq required not a “surge” but political reconciliation between a sufficiently large set of Iraqi factions as to represent the overwhelming majority of Iraqis. The “surge” was, in some vague way, supposed to facilitate that, which it hasn’t, it was never a realistic method of securing the country on its own, which is why it hasn’t worked.
The “surge” was always part of the puzzle; it wasn’t supposed to solve everything by itself. War remains, as it has always been, a means of forcing people to make political concessions that they would not otherwise make voluntarily. Classic counterinsurgency doctrine requires securing large population centers, killing insurgents, and applying political pressure. All those things, and more, are happening."
and furthermore:
"Despite recent trends, 2007 is the deadliest year for U.S. forces since the war began in March 2003. Even on a day like Monday, considered a relatively quiet one with no reported coalition casualties, at least 33 Iraqis were killed and an equal number wounded in violence around the country.
While declining, the fighting in Iraq has just returned to levels seen before the February 2006 bombing of the Shi’ite shrine in Samarra by extremists — an attack that sent violence between Sunnis and Shi’ites soaring. And ordinary Iraqis say the streets are full of danger, even with the improvement in security." This little tidbit was just written 2 weeks ago by OTB.
This supposed truth is only the truth as HE sees it. Not necessary the TRUTH at all, and considering that he probably was only allowed to visit certain sections of Baghdad doesn't lend much validity to his statement.
It doesn't make any difference. sm
You can not buy gas for a week and it won't make a difference. They will just raise the prices even more to make up the difference. Neal Boortz had a great explanation on how this works on his show the other night. Big oil just bides it's time and then raises the cost again after people get tired of being stuck at home or not going to the movies, or out to eat, etc. That is his explanation in a nutshell.
Doesn't make him my leader.....
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Doesn't make a difference
Whether they are men or women. They all voted in a pay raise for themselves (both crats and reps) while the rest of the country is suffering, so don't just point out Sarah Palin.
Wow. Doesn't this post make you want
your chair and rush down to the nearest GOP headquarters and sign up as a life-long loyalist? Hope there's a box on the form I can check to become affiliated with the furthest right fringe that they have to offer. What class. What style. What charisma. Oh, please, can I be just like you? I'm getting really tired of that sugary sweet Kool-Aid I've been guzzling and can hardly wait to take a healthy slug of that bitter acid foaming out of your mouth. Thanks for sharing.
It doesn't make a difference...
guess that's what makes it all so sad. I think too many people thought of Obama as the man that was going to make things right and he's just making things worse - even sadder.
Being a POW doesn't make you qualified to run a country
Especially when you don't know the economy, have no ideas (or even care to) help the Americans through the hard times, and especially when you plan to stay at war for the next 100 years. I could go on and on but it would be too long.
Just 'cause he denies it doesn't it make it
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I just hope Obama doesn't make use of them...
for political dissidents. You can't tell me that Congress, including Mr. Obama, do not know they exist. Come on now.
Then don't come here if it doesn't make you feel "proud"
If coming to this board and listening to people who voice their opinions and concerns of what is happening in the country is so upsetting to you and takes away from you feeling "proud", then I would say not to come here. We listen to the concerns on this board and everyone that trashed McCain and Palin (and still do), and anyone else who is a not a liberal and voices their opinions - they get trashed, but we listen to it.
Then we give our concerns about Obama and the incoming administration. If it's that upsetting to you to know that not everyone in this country is in love with Obama and worships the ground he walks on then maybe you should find some boards somewhere where most all of the posts are just the jubilation, rapture, and ecstasy everyone has because we've elected the first black man to the white house no matter whether or not he knows what he's doing or meets the qualifications. Oh wait - that is this board.
You know what I get sick of seeing. The utter disrepsect that people give to those that don't join in the rapture. We are attacked and called names for it, but the moment we respond back we are criticized. Even the people who said they voted for Obama but are having some concerns about the people's he's picking for cabinet members they are attacked too because they are not dancing in circles drinking the Kool-Aid chanting Obama's name over and over and over.
Everyone has different opinions. Everyone has different concerns. Everyone has the right to voice those opinions.
I wouldn't worry too much, however, the way America is headed is that nobody will ever be able to say or write the truth about Obama because already in Missouri the "thought police" are monitoring websites of who's writing what about Obama and if it is the truth or not gushing with love they are being reported. They are also trying to silence the conservative radio shows so that it will only be liberal viewpoint that everyone hears. So soon all you'll hear is happy happy joy joy about Obama and those who don't agree with thim will be on their way to one of the hundreds of re-education camps in this country.
Of interesting note, Obama won McCain by 9,522,111. Out of 129,391,683 people who voted, that's not very much. Less than 8%. And there are over 303,824,640 people in America so that means 174,432,957 people in America did not vote (that's more than those who did vote). According to statistics only 25% of the country's population are children under 20 years old, so that still leaves over 9,847,679 people that didn't vote. So to go around acting as though every single person living in America voted for Obama gets a bit old. I'm also thankful that there are enough American's in the country to know right from wrong and a lot of them know their rights as Americans and they still believe in the constitution and what our founding fathers fought for (definitely NOT what is happening today) and they are not joining in the newest cult to come to this country.
So if coming to this board just depeletes all your "proudness" I'd find somewhere else to go.
Doesn't make you a racist, just misinformed.
I grew up in the 60s when racial tensions were extremely high, and we knew what was racist and what was not racist, and this cartoon is definitely racist. You really don't want to go back to that horrible time and place, so if we can inform others to show just a little bit of compassion and/or respect to others, it will go a long way to soothe the underlying tensions that still exist.
I stick by my statement - doesn't make it right
And the lady who set fire to him is just as bad as he is.
Doesn't it kind of make you laugh and...
...shake your head when they accuse you of being somebody else? They accused me and "gourdpainter" (sp?) of being the same person in the past, and all I could do was laugh and wonder how their thought processes work. 
Huh?? This post doesn't even make sense
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No, I do not see irony in this and calling him a half and half?
I have a mixed daughter and she thanked me 1 time, saying "I have the best of both worlds." Perhaps he feels the same- it is not a put down of 1 side or the other- if you don’t understand now, you probably never will. It is the black that dominates as a color, not the white- therefore lots of mixed people go by the stronger of the 2 colors, has nothing to do with if they are pleased or trying to put down 1 side. I think this is such a trivial matter, myself. What in the world does it matter where he was born or where he lived? Why would you call him a half and half- you my sweetie are showing a lot of racism. Get yourself under better control, ok? You can have a stroke by getting out of sorts like you are doing. You seem to be fuming.
Not agreeing with your almight edicts doesn't make
brainwashed right-wing robots.
Voting for McCain doesn't make you a republican
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2805&name=Bush-Family-Bankrupt-Companies
yeah, but could care less really doesn't make sense if you think about it -nm
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Did anyone notice the voice doesn't match the video? How does that make her (sm)
a witch hunter? So ridiculous. The voice didn't even match the minister who was praying with her.
Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html
Do ya think lithium would help here? (only kidding, doesn't make sense, but this is Capitol Hill
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I see nothing racist about half and half......
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I guess you want the old white, wrinkly white guy?
Right wing horsesh*t being shoved out as "truth." Sad.
Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim
And point of fact is that it was 2 years in Catholic school, 2 years in a "Muslim" school. He was living in Indonesia. He had to attend school in Indonesia. His mother, doing what mothers do, wanted him to get the best education available. She tried 2 years at the Catholic school and then determined at that point that the quality of education provided was better at the Muslim school. There was some teaching of Muslim philosophy but this more emphasis was paid to standard educational requirements, what's referred to as the 3 Rs (Reading, wRiting, 'Rithmetic).
Attending a school with some affiliation does not automatically confer the same status on you. Jews can go to Catholics without converting. Whites can go to those schools thought of as primary African-American without becoming black. Sometimes, folks, a school is just a school, and 2 years in an extremely secular school at the ages of 8-10 does not turn him into a radical Muslim.
Frankly, his education and family life seems like it makes him almost the perfect president to be able to understand and empathize with a much wider range of American citizens than any president before him.
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