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Posted By: va on 2005-07-02
In Reply to: I don't know who Ms Wilson is either, but - fg

Ms Wilson is Valerie Plame, a CIA operative who was outed by Karl Rove. 


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    Who is Ms.Wilson?
    nm
    I don't know who Ms Wilson is either, but
    Karl Rove is a charter member of the *axis of evil* and therefore one of the most dangerous men on earth (along with dubya, rumsfield, cheney, etc.)

    My fondest desire is that they all get the worst case of incurable crabs the world has ever known, right along with a dose of the clap and chronic, unremitting insomnia. and maybe hangnails.
    wilson versus rove
    Ms. Wilson is Valerie Plame, she is married to Joseph Wilson.  She worked for the CIA but Rove gave her name to Robert Novak, thus jeopardizing her life. 
    Long live Wilson
    Give me a man who has had too many wives and did too many drugs rather than a man who has drank too many alcoholic drinks and snorted too much cocaine and sent us to an immoral illegal war based on lies and has killed almost 2,000 brave soldiers based on that lie and tens of thousand innocent Iraqs and injured mentally and physically thousand of Americans, stated he was a uniter not a divider but has divided this country in two and reduced our credibility and respect around the world and caused the biggest deficit America has ever had..yes, give me Joseph Wilson, a true American patriot, anyday..
    Wilson gives speech in conservative Bakersfield

     


    Bakersfield is a very conservative oil town. 









    John Harte / The Californian


    Former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson speaks to an overflow crowd at CSUB Thursday night.



    Critic of Bush earns support

    Packed house at CSUB hears ex-envoy who disputed Iraqi war data

    By CHRISTINA SOSA, Californian staff writer
    e-mail: csosa@bakersfield.com


    Posted: Thursday October 20th, 2005, 11:45 PM
    Last Updated: Friday October 21st, 2005, 7:52 AM

    The audience overflowed the overflow room at Cal State Bakersfield's Doré Theatre on Thursday night and people had to settle for standing in the hall to hear former U.S. ambassador to Iraq Joseph Wilson speak.



     

    Starlene Parson was one of more than 600 people who attended the free event, which was part of the Kegley Institute of Ethics' lecture series.


    It was interesting that the audience was supportive of him, Parson said.

    Even Wilson thought his visit to such a conservative town might be more problematic than the welcome reception he received.

    I figured that if I was going to get a pie in the face, this would be the town, Wilson joked.

    After a career of working with Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, Wilson wrote an op-ed piece in The New York Times in July 2003 disputing information current President Bush used to justify a war in Iraq.

    I had a civic duty, and that civic duty was to call my government to account for what my government had said and done, Wilson said Thursday.

    Days after Wilson's article, columnist Robert Novak revealed that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA agent. The revelation prompted a nearly two-year federal grand jury investigation because Plame's role with the CIA was classified, and it may have been illegal to disclose it.

    He called ruining his wife's cover a tawdry, cheap, dirty political trick.

    Wilson's speech delved into the details of his work during the first Iraq war in the early 1990s, his investigation in Niger and his personal fight with the Bush administration after he came forward.

    Wilson also stressed that while he may find himself more a friend to the left than the right these days, he has never seen national security as a partisan issue.

    The real implications in all this are to our country and our status and stature in the world, Wilson said. It is our national status that is at play here, not our partisan status.

    Attendee Harriet Morris was struck by how calmly Wilson presented his information and point of view.

    What I liked about him is he was kind of low-key. There wasn't any anger, Morris said. There wasn't any angry rhetoric. He just kind of told the story, and the story is scary.

    Before opening the floor to questions, Wilson ended his prepared speech with a call for vigilance from all Americans.

    If you lay back ... and you allow others to make your decisions for you, then the chances are pretty good that you will find you have lost your republic, Wilson said.


    didn't Gretchen Wilson perform there?
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    I have been trying to follow this Rove vs Wilson thing and I'm not sure what's going on, but I hope

    they keep the pressure on, because IF our govt has behaved irresponsibly we need to know.


    IMHO, Wilson discredits himself, if one takes a look at the facts.
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    Bush angry with Rove for being CLUMSY in discrediting Wilson!






    *But the President felt Rove and other members of the White House damage-control team did a clumsy job in their campaign to discredit Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, the ex-diplomat who criticized Bush's claim that Saddam Hussen tried to buy weapons-grade uranium in Niger.*


    New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com

    Bush whacked
    Rove on CIA leak

    BY THOMAS M. DeFRANK
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF
    Wednesday, October 19th, 2005

    WASHINGTON - An angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair, sources told the Daily News.

    He made his displeasure known to Karl, a presidential counselor told The News. He made his life miserable about this.

    Bush has nevertheless remained doggedly loyal to Rove, who friends and even political adversaries acknowledge is the architect of the President's rise from baseball owner to leader of the free world.

    As special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald nears a decision, perhaps as early as today, on whether to issue indictments in his two-year probe, Bush has already circled the wagons around Rove, whose departure would be a grievous blow to an already shell-shocked White House staff and a President in deep political trouble.

    Asked if he believed indictments were forthcoming, a key Bush official said he did not know, then added: I'm very concerned it could go very, very badly.

    Karl is fighting for his life, the official added, but anything he did was done to help George W. Bush. The President knows that and appreciates that.

    Other sources confirmed, however, that Bush was initially furious with Rove in 2003 when his deputy chief of staff conceded he had talked to the press about the Plame leak.

    Bush has always known that Rove often talks with reporters anonymously and he generally approved of such contacts, one source said.

    But the President felt Rove and other members of the White House damage-control team did a clumsy job in their campaign to discredit Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, the ex-diplomat who criticized Bush's claim that Saddam Hussen tried to buy weapons-grade uranium in Niger.

    A second well-placed source said some recently published reports implying Rove had deceived Bush about his involvement in the Wilson counterattack were incorrect and were leaked by White House aides trying to protect the President.

    Bush did not feel misled so much by Karl and others as believing that they handled it in a ham-handed and bush-league way, the source said.

    None of these sources offered additional specifics of what Bush and Rove discussed in conversations beginning shortly after the Justice Department informed the White House in September 2003 that a criminal investigation had been launched into the leak of CIA agent Plame's identity to columnist Robert Novak.

    A White House spokesman declined to comment, citing the ongoing nature of Fitzgerald's investigation.


    Bush admits to directing cheney to discredit Joe Wilson.

    At the time, officials told said that Plame's outing resulted in *severe* damage to her team and *significantly hampered the CIA's ability to monitor nuclear proliferation.*  I guess personal kindergarten style paybacks are more important to Bush.  Just remember Bush's role in all this when he declares yet another war on Iran.



    Bush Told Prosecutors He Directed Cheney to Discredit Joe Wilson


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/


    George W. Bush, 9/30/2003:


    I know of nobody -- I don't know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate action. And this investigation is a good thing.


    And again I repeat, you know, Washington is a town where there's all kinds of allegations. You've heard much of the allegations. And if people have got solid information, please come forward with it. And that would be people inside the information who are the so-called anonymous sources, or people outside the information -- outside the administration. And we can clarify this thing very quickly if people who have got solid evidence would come forward and speak out. And I would hope they would.


    And then we'll get to the bottom of this and move on. But I want to tell you something -- leaks of classified information are a bad thing. And we've had them -- there's too much leaking in Washington. That's just the way it is. And we've had leaks out of the administrative branch, had leaks out of the legislative branch, and out of the executive branch and the legislative branch, and I've spoken out consistently against them and I want to know who the leakers are.


    12/13/2005


    Newspaper columnist Robert Novak is still not naming his source in the Valerie Plame affair, but he says he is pretty sure the name is no mystery to President Bush.


    I'm confident the president knows who the source is, Novak told a luncheon audience at the John Locke Foundation in Raleigh on Tuesday. I'd be amazed if he doesn't.


    So I say, 'Don't bug me. Don't bug Bob Woodward. Bug the president as to whether he should reveal who the source is.'



    07/03/2006


    Reports: Plame Was Monitoring Iran Nukes When Outed
    By E&P Staff
    Published: May 02, 2006 10:55 AM ET


    NEW YORK What was Valerie Plame working on at the CIA when she was outed by administration officials and columnist Robert Novak? MSNBC's David Schuster on Monday said he had confirmed an earlier report that she was helping to keep track of Iran's nuclear activity--not a front and center issue for the White House.

    Earlier this year, Larisa Alexandrovna of the Web site RawStory.com, reported that Plame, whose covert status was compromised in the leak, was monitoring weapons proliferation in Iran. At the time, officials told her that Plame's outing resulted in severe damage to her team and significantly hampered the CIA's ability to monitor nuclear proliferation.

    On last night's Hardball, MSNBC correspondent Shuster reported that intelligence sources told him thatr Wilson was part of an operation three years ago tracking the proliferation of nuclear weapons material into Iran. And the sources asserted, he said, that when here Wilson's cover was blown, the administration's ability to track Iran's nuclear ambitions was damaged as well.


    http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002426164