yeah, go back 50 yr, and take responsibility
Posted By: sm on 2008-09-06
In Reply to: Yeah, let her take us back 40 years so everyone can have - Yo. (NM)
for your behavior -- ie, get pregnant, you HAVE the child, even if you choose to give him/her up for adoption. yeah, go back to when we still had some morals, ethics, courage, determination, etc etc. that would be The Way !!
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Yeah. It's been a while back and a lot has happened.
That's pretty much what I meant. They held hearings, brought charges, presented their case, proved their allegations. The mandate was to decide whether or not this constituted "high crimes and misdemeanors." Perjury is not pretty...but lying about affairs is not uncommon. Lying about the war...another story. In any case, the charges failed to meet the criteria of high crimes and misdemeanors and they voted not to impeach / remove from office.
I think "booming" is a relative concept. For example, as compared to now, booming it was. Another measure might be if people were better off when he left office than we he took office. The 90s, for the most part, is remembered as a decade of prosperity. I may come back a little later and comment further because I am transcribing today, but for the time being, you may find this article of interest. Would like to hear your comments one way or the other.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0109-04.htm
I agree with about the working class, but I do believe that generally speaking, the dollar had more purchasing power then than now. I know that as an MT and single parent, the boom sort of skipped over my house, but on the other hands, things did seem easier and better than now.
You will notice I left out a few things that others might think of as "a good thing." Restoration of the death penalty would be one....NAFTA another. IMO, NAFTA has been a disaster and I considered it to be Clinton's biggest boondoggle. For the most part, I though Clinton was a "cool" pres. I will say this much. He is doing some good things now (William J. Clinton Foundation), but aging does not seem to agree with him, in terms of his personality. He just doesn't seem quite as "cool" as he was before....maybe I've gotten older too.
I appreciate your post and may revisit this later this evening.
Yeah, let her take us back 40 years so everyone can have
at least a sister, daughter, cousin, grandchild, mother, wife, neighbor or aunt who dies from a botched illegal abortion. Then, we can all start over again.
Sarah hasn't earned the right to run this country. Obama has clearly been working night and day, the proof is in the number in his audience worldwide. Even Canada and Germany want Obama. The truth is in the numbers.
The United States today finds itself threatened by three interlocking crises. The first of these crises is economic and cultural, the second political, and the third military. All three share this characteristic: They are of the GOP making.
the good ole' boys don't deserve a second chance. The grand ole party has failed the people by selling out to China to pay for a war and at the same time, gave tax cuts to the wealthiest and corporations (they provide jobs my arse). McCain with Lieberman and the voting jews will have us at war with Iran and well, looks like a battle with russia is in the making as we speak. How do you figure this country will be a better place with four wars, a deficit that will send the country into bankrupty and a female VP who has the statemanship of a redneck fundamentalist.
Yeah.....right. Same back at ya...You have all hit my posts 2-3 times....
pile on, try to stop any and all kind of opposition....that doesn't sound like democracy to me. Lockstep party line and if an independent thought every occurred it died a lonely death. Tsk tsk.
Yeah, we got to get those rape rooms back and pronto...
You know, so the rapists (Hussein's henchmen) can practice their sexual preferrence freely....
Yeah, this was back in the 80's right when Donny was shaking his hand...sm
I agree Saddam is scum, but the sanctions, and military pressure during the 80's and 90's and pretty much strapped him. Did he need to be taken out, WELL DUH, YEAH. I just argue the fact that 1) it is not our responsibility. If the people were too afraid to rise against him how can they stand on their own? That is being evidenced with the training of the Iraqi police and Iraqi military. 2) Was this the way to do it? An all out occupation. That country is at the brink of a civil war.
Yeah, did Elvis come back to life? Is this hollywood?
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Yeah, well, I seem to remember Democrat saying she wasn't African-American awhile back. sm
So which is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
take responsibility
and if *they* were in office, you can bet *they* would probably have been impeached, tarred and feathered by now. A capitain goes down with his ship. Bush needs to take responsibility for Iraq but one thing you have never heard from this administration is sorry, I was wrong. Never, the guy does not have those words in his vocabulary although there are many things he should be sorry for. Well, things are happening quite fast now and all the crap, dishonesty and deceit he has loaded on this country and the world will come down on him soon. I cant wait. Gonna be fun to see shrub squirm. Finally honest decent Americans are speaking out. Yippee.
you said it - take responsibility for
your loathsome actions.
It is a responsibility...
equal treatment? There will always be special healthcare for the elite. But, I think a generic plan would work for most people, and I don't feel because I make more money than some that I should have to pay more for my healthcare. NOT FAIR! We are talking about health here! Keeping everyone healthy should be important!
I asked my husband what was the difference between the "gals" that were working for the dude in New York (what was he governor?) and the "gals" that walk the trashiest neighborhood for a buck (prostitution)? He said "the rich ones don't have to do it 24/7... Now there is a male perspective for ya'...
What makes the rich customers or prostitutes any different? There's definitely a pattern here.
Responsibility
I made no comment. My posts contained no text at all. I simply linked to a news report. I never claimed that Sarah Palin was responsible for anything. My oh my, aren't we hostile today!
HA! See, I do take responsibility
I'm not the one hollering about how thanks to Obama I'll no longer have to pay my mortgage or pay for gas in my car.
They really should add "no responsibility"
to their talking points.
This is about the judgment and responsibility of
a woman who could possibly be the next Prez if something happens to the old man. This is not about who will conduct the next PTA meeting.
cant accept any responsibility
for her own actions -- the dems MAKE her do it. Yeah, she's an independent. You can put your shoes in the oven but that don;t make 'em biscuits
Exactly, pubs had to take on the responsibility
to handle the junk the dems left them with. Glad you understand.
is it a right, privilege, or responsibility
Just curious - this question was raised at the 2nd debate. Is health care a right, privilege or a responsibility? How do you all feel about it? I feel it is a right but one that comes with a price, that one does not deserve health care simply because one is alive but that one deserves health care and must be willing to take responsibility for expenses (not all, obviously, because no one could afford that) but premiums, etc., and that one should have to be responsible about their use of health care (no ER abuse, use preventive care, etc.). How do you feel about it? What would you like to see done to reform health care in the US?
Does personal responsibility mean
get off your lazy a$$, find a job, don't expect a handout, free healthcare, free college, maybe work for a living instead of expecting those of us who have been responsible to foot your bill??
Obama has already taken responsibility, and
he takes his responsibilities seriously, that's why he has his cabinet already in place and is all he can do for now until he is sworn into office. When will Bush be held responsible? HE hasn't taken any responsibility for anything, and he's not made to take responsibility by anyone. Why is that?!!! Tell me Bush is not responsible for killing over 4200 troops for no good reason, tell me Bush is not responsible for 100s of 1000s of dead innocent Iraqis, and I'll call you a LIAR.
Right on! Why take personal responsibility for
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When it comes to fiscal responsibility......you can't believe anything a pub says.......nm
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Preacher of personal responsibility: When do
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Al Qaeda did claim responsibility for 9-11 sm
and I believe they were. However, AL Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded. Rather, they were in the mountains of Afganistan and Pakistan. Invasion of Iraq gave them a venue to distract from where Islama Bin Ladin was and keep him safe.
Why not exercise responsibility with your rights?
In this day of myriad methods of birth control, there is absolutely no reason for 1.2 million abortions a year. It has grown from endangering life of mother, rape and incest to why bother with birth control, if I get pregnant I can have it flushed. It is amazing to me that any person with a heart in their chest is not appalled by that.
And a great contributor to this has been the gradual relaxation of any kind of moral responsibility...no right or wrong, only shades of gray, no consequences, sex introduced to kids earlier and earlier and earlier, not even allowing them to be kids...saying sex is fine, multiple partners is fine, heck, you don't even have to like the other person.
We are reaping what that kind of lifestyle change has sown.
Take responsibility. Demand accountability.
Why do you cut Republicans to ribbons the largest financial disaster we have faced in decades can be laid at the feet of Democrats in Congress and all of a sudden you guys are saying stop blaming. You want to stop blaming Bush for the war?
Do pubs ever take personal responsibility for anything?
Ridiculous considering the investigation was gong on way before anybody ever knew she was the VP pick.
really, sex education is the parent's responsibility...
in my opinion. Also, I am sure that the poor quality of the educational system as a whole also contributes to this high rate of pregnancy in teens and we all know that low income teens are more likely to get pregnant and Mississippi is a poor state. I think that there are several contributing factors and it is very difficult to isolate just one. However, before anyone gets too upset, I am not against educating kids about safe sex, I just think that abstinence should be included, as well, which it was not in my California high school.
Take Responsibility - You Voted for the moron...
Mr. Mission Accomplished - I'm the Decider - YEAH! So far, the worst president in US history............keep whining, it's as entertaining as a Viagra commercial!
Why is it our country's responsibility to evolve with
The purpose of those coming to this country in the first place was to be their own person, not to live for their government, not to have laws forced down their throats by their government, NOT to pay taxes to support royalty or government and to escape religious persecution.
There was NO republican party....these were people who wanted freedom from the overbearing government. They didn't come here to "evolve" with anyone but to make their own way or does the thought of having to always think for yourself scare the daylights out of you?
We don't need the rest of the world to agree or disagree with us. Believe it or not, we were perfectly capable of making our own way because the world trade garbage was implemented and all the trade agreements is also a part of why we are in this ..............
Republican or democrat, that has no bearing on what our founding fathers envisioned for this country. For those that seem to think in terms of republican or democrat only, that is the problem in the first place.....they can't think independently. They have accepted the notion that government is their only hope........get it????
Yep, personal responsibility out the window.
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This is what a republican taking personal responsibility
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No....I am advocating taking responsibility for your actions...
and not killing the result of those actions. But why teach responsibility when you can flush the problem right on out, right? sheesh.
Obama advocates personal responsibility
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Good grief! I take responsibility for the psychopath comment, but....sm
I somehow posted it in the wrong place. Look below for explanation. The message should read that the GOVERNOR OF Illinois was exhibiting typical psychopathic behavior. Too many thin-skinned people around here.
Personal responsibility and pride is hard to find
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Obama heading the Fiscal Responsibility Summit is like
Yup, bout sums it up right.
Typical sentiment from the party of no responsibility. Cohen that is, not England.
The Republican Congress did a good job with fiscal responsibility, didn't they?
bout sums it up
yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
get on back, neocon, get on back
Tell ya what, sweetheart, last I checked this is the LIBERAL BOARD and I havent been banned, as I dont break the rules, so I can stay as long as I want..Seems to me, conservative, you are the one who should mosey on by and get back to drink more Kook-Aid.
Oh, yeah yeah, whatever. There's plenty of satan here, that is for sure!
Yeah, yeah, everything is funny. Wont
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....still protesting too much. (nm)
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Go back then
So, *Really* or whomever you are..I have a thought, why dont you go back to the conservative board and have some fun discussing how you are gonna save America and the world from terrorists or whatever you think we are accomplishing with this war. Bye..bye..**BIG HUG**
Did think you could come back on that
except to call names. If you can't defend yourself just call names...that's how it works, right?
It's funny and predictable how you all react when you're called on the carpet about your hypocrisy.
*Did think you could come back on that*??
You don't consider *unhinged liberal* calling names?!
All you do is come here and pick, pick, pick, fight, fight, fight. You're boring, and you're terribly unfriendly and unpleasant to be around. For that reason, I don't think I'm going to continue to provide an audience for any more of your attention-seeking temper tantrums.
Other than that, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by *Did think you could come back on that.* Is English your second language or is your anger and hatred causing you to become a bit *unhinged* yourself? (Was just a rhetorical question. No need to respond. I won't be reading it.) 
We should just go back to
ignoring them, Democrat.
Their own board is dead because they can't stand to AGREE with each other and just be NICE people. They have too much venom that they need to purge or explode, and they've been doing it here.
Not one of them (assuming there is more than one) has posted anything that deserves a response. Not one.
They're just pitiful, bitter, angry, hateful people, and the more we feed them, the fatter they get.
OMG, they are back
The neocons are back..the administrator tells them not to post here but THEY ARE BACK!! A fungus is among us!
Welcome back...nm
Welcome back! You are definitely not alone ...sm
I think anyone who is still able to think for themselves can see it, it is almost predictable actually. Because of all that is going on lately, the translation for that propaganda is:
You need to vote for Republicans so you will not get killed by terrorists.
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