You give a link that supposedly exposes snopes.com yet SM

• ARE WE THERE YET? - Mythbuster
  • You are most definitely correct - - me
  • That's false; Jefferson didn't say that. sm - ever heard of Snopes.com?
    • Why aren't you getting it - Snopes is not a credible source. They've been exposed - link inc - me
      • Interesting that you provide a link - that
        • Looks like I have to repeat AGAIN - - me
          • It looks like you are the one that does not - get it.
            • Okay, here we go again...just one more time here. - me
              • Post just ONE example, with links, backing up your assertions. nm - one - just one
                • here ya go - me
                  • Asked for proof, suddenly she's too busy. LOL. Figures. nm - ha
                    • you can look up the proof yourself - its there - me
              • I read real slow. - I get it.
                • It's like trying to discuss Dante's Inferno with someone stuck in My Little Red Reader. nm - don't waste your time
            • To paraphrase, you can lead a horse to the facts, but you can't make it think. nm - I gave up
              • I prefer the Dorothy Parker version - Mythbuster
                • Sure you can: You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think. sm - TechSupport
                  • LOL!!! - Marmann
                  • This was a test.... - Mythbuster
                • I think horticulture is a fine word. :-) - no problem
                  • HA! - Mythbuster
      • Okay, so only Fox News tells the truth. I see where you're coming from. nm - fair and balanced LOL
        • Aha!, quite obviously you know where - MTfromLA
        • I didn't say anything about Fox news!!! - me
          • You're obvious willingness to believe utter crap said it. nm - that said it all
            • Let me repeat myself - me
              • oops - meant fool, not food. HA HA - me
              • You're so easy to wind up. LOL. nm - You're so much fun
      • You give a link that supposedly exposes snopes.com yet SM - Can you not read???
        • I did read the whole link and - me
        • Thank you! - Marmann
      • typo - meant cite things as hoax, not "site" things - me
    • Actually, he did say most of them. sm - TechSupport
      • Well, if some dead person said it, it must be true. NM - remember I am not a crook?
        • Idjit! - Deep sigh
    • Whether or not Jefferson - A.Nonymous
    • If you (and Snopes) take issue - Mythbuster
  • On second thought, - Mythbuster

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Uh-oh!  Bushies aren't going to like this!  Bad, bad Faux News!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JESZiLpBLE

going to be on Fox news "later today." Just heard this. Supposedly they were at the White House in a meeting and after they left the meeting, they were not allowed back on the White House grounds. So, they're all going to Fox News to be interviewed.

going to be on Fox news "later today." Just heard this. Supposedly they were at the White House in a meeting and after they left the meeting, they were not allowed back on the White House grounds. So, they're all going to Fox News to be interviewed.

It's part of the Chicago political machine and has a definite conflict of interest.

Research it for yourself if you don't believe me.  This is not directed towards you.  I'm just pointing this out for the rest of the readers here.

Sep 28, 8:09 PM EDT Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet By DINESH RAMDE Associated Press Writer

AP Photo/Charles Dharapak Advertisement Buy AP Photo Reprints PHOTO GALLERY Latest Photos of Barack Obama Audio Slideshow On the Road with Obama Latest News Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet Obama calls McCain economic ideas 'out of touch' Correction: Obama home-arrest story Obama effigy found hanging from Ore. campus tree Man arrested outside Obama home wanted job Multimedia Obama Picks Biden as Running Mate A look back at the tumultuous 1968 Democratic convention Iraq? Global Warming? Gay Marriage? See Where the Candidates Stand Your Questions Answered Ask AP: Hurricane reporters, property in Cuba MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" when Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama mentioned during Friday's debate the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. "I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said. Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet. "I've got a bracelet, too, from Sergeant - from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, given to me in Green Bay," Obama said during the debate. "She asked me, 'Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I'm going through?' No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided." Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war. She wouldn't directly say whether she wanted Obama to refrain from mentioning the bracelet again, but said she hopes the issue will just go away. "I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves." © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy. Click here for copyright permissions! Copyright 2008 Associated Press

with the final quote on banks, NBD.  The othes are quite pithy.

with the final quote on banks, NBD.  The othes are quite pithy enough.

Snopes.com leans to the left

July 29th, 2008 · No Comments · General Politics, Politics

I can see a blind conservative thinking that perhaps Snopes is politically motivated toward the left. However, just for fun, I looked up the issue of Osama Bin Laden’s family being flown out of the U.S. immediately following the 9/11 attacks, when most air traffic had been grounded. Snopes says this, too, was false. Here, it quotes heavily from the 9/11 commission. Members of the Bin Laden family, the commission concludes, were not flown out before air space were re-opened.

But Snopes, via the 9/11 commission citations, does show that the Bin Ladens were flown out September 20th. The FBI questioned them, but then let them fly out. The commission also says one of the FBI agents who questioned the family was a pilot for the flight, though the vagueness of the report could lead one to conclude that the FBI agent was a pilot in general and not the pilot of the flight. Which begs the question, why mention it at all unless they meant that an FBI agent was the pilot flying the Bin Laden escape plane in question…

Anyway, the point of the whole Bin Ladens leaving the States is that they were allowed to leave so effortlessly and with our government’s help. It sounds great to say the government flew them out when all air traffic was grounded, but that’s just icing. That Snopes claims the rumor is false while the underlying point that the U.S. flew the Bin Ladens out of the States is true shows that Snopes is no more left-leaning than right-leaning. It’s admirable. They seem to take the tack that “if part of statement is false, the whole statement is false.” Very mathematical.

http://www.lekowicz.com/wren_forum/2006/03/14/705/

interesting. It is written by a black Christian man stating why he won't vote for Obama. If you just type in Huntley Brown Snopes, it will come up, it's the first link.

I am a fence rider, can't decide who to vote for, since neither one of them has actually given a plan as to what they are going to do for America, just a lot of trash talk from both sides and name calling and schoolyard tactics. Neither one has had to answer any direct questions regarding anything of value to me.

I am neither anti-Obama or anti-McCain; I am sure they are both decent men. I just found this interestingl it's not going to sway be either way, but just thought I would share it.

I was hoping for a better result the second time, but I didn't get one.  Please use the link if you're interested in reading this in its entirety.

Sorry! 

http://www.rense.com/general84/close.htm

All I see is promises. calm demeanor is another. He was a bit rattled at some of the questions asked of him throughout the campaign.

I'm afraid of his "form of thinking"...  "world view, plans and policies". His voting record leaves something to be desired. He is not focusing on the middle class, but is focusing on the have-nots. 

His "voting record, his biography?" Not good. His "accomplishments"? What, that he came up so fast in government? That's a little quizzical. How did he accomplish that?

I am truly worried about his "orientation towards the future," his "multicultural global outlook, his global appeal". Love for his country? We shall see.

We know he loves his family. That I won't argue with, but other things you wrote, yes. I'm not sure he has the gumption to do it all.

this package an A. It is so complicated and I am getting mixed messages all over the place. We have to wrap Iraq up (that'll save us $12 billion a month) - don't know how they'll accomplish that and then there's Afghanistan, what a mess. They have to do something and they have to do it now. We have witnessed how the "free market" will take care of it - it won't. I am disgusted and disappointed with Congress. The longer this freefall continues, the longer it will be before the banks can extend credit. And, I agree with Obama, cap the CEOs salaries as long as they are accepting taxpayers money. STOPPING spending is what everyone is doing right now.....and the freefall continues. Spending to stimulate the economy seems to be our only option right now. This country has so may ills - it can't be boiled down to a couple of paragraphs.

military information either.  I also cringe when I see documentaries on how our weapons are made and what they do.  Nothing like giving the enemy a play by play on what we are doing and how our weapons are supposed to work. 

As far as I am concerned, we don't need to know every little thing like that.  It puts us at a disadvantage and I personally feel it endangers our troops just throwing out information like that.

I'm sure that there were some folks there that were there basically because they hate Obama.  But you cannot stereotype everyone into that group.  I, for one, don't hate Obama.  I wasn't there trying to have him impeached for being black....okay.  It amazes me that you people tell conservatives to be openminded, at the same time you can be some of the most closed minded of all of us.  You want us to see things from your point of view and yet at the same time spit on our point of view.  

We are called racist and unpatriotic for disagreeing with our current president and yet it was quite okay to disagree with Bush.  You want to cry and whine about how this is about Obama and how we hate Obama and yet you say nothing of the black people who voted for Obama merely because he was black.....or about the black people who continue to support him merely because he is black.  If you want to throw up the race card, by all mean do it but please report the racism from all sides.  I'm not saying all black people voted for Obama for that reason.....but some did.  I'm sure some white people didn't vote him for because he is black.....but that isn't the reason for all of us.  You can't use racism as a cop out for everything here.

If the tea parties were truly about hating Obama and all brought about by racism....then by all means we have a right to be ridiculed because that would be a wrong reason to protest and would show how bigotted we are.  However, that WAS NOT the reason behind the tea parties.  It wasn't even about Obama entirely.  It was about GOVERNMENT and that includes the president, pubs, and crats as well as any independent that might be in there if there are any. 

It amazes me that liberal groups can protest and be physical with people in their protests and spray paint graffiti and that is okay but when concerned Americans get together in protest where there is no violence and no destruction of public or private property.....you all scream and call us hate mongers.....are you kidding me?   

There may not have been many black people in the crowd but there were some out there.  I don't recall seeing any burning crosses.  There were no Obama effigies hung from a rope....although I do recall one of Sarah Palin being hung during the campaign at someone's house during Halloween and I guess that was okay, huh?

Double standards and the race card.....I'm sick sick sick of it.

Although I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said, I'm sure that Bush will find a way to keep all the kids of his rich "base" out of combat, the same way he was kept out of combat by his rich dad.  Maybe if Dubya had the GUTS to see some combat action on his own, he'd think twice before sending our children out to die for a bogus war that he needs because he feels that no president could be considered truly successful without one military "win" under his belt.

He said this in 1999, TWO YEARS before 9/11:

He's beyond moronic.  What kind of SUBHUMANOID USES 9/11 and all its victims as an EXCUSE to do what he's wanted to do all along?

And yes, you'd better believe there's going to be a draft.  I have 2 reasons for believing that.

1.  Because, as you said, we can't meet recruitment quotas because our bright young people are opening their eyes and aren't willing to die in an unnecessary war for a government that does nothing but lie; and

2. Read my lips:  BECAUSE HE PROMISED THERE WOULDN'T BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!