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Anna Nicole update.....3:30 pm EST

Posted By: autopsy underway nearly complete....sm on 2007-02-09
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*no evidence of a crime occurring, no evidence of illegal drugs, only rx drugs, but we are not revealing whose names were on those bottles.  Investigation remains open until all tests return, but no evidence of a crime occurred.  No trauma found except a minor bruise from the bed a few days ago....no physical injuries found on her, autopsy is now complete.  No determination in cause of death but extensive review of medical records and tests ongoing.  They are still collecting information, lab data, etc., and will take somewhere between 3 and 5 weeks.*


Dr. Joshua Perper


Broward Medical Examiner


 




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anna nicole
But her poor baby is without a mom now.
DNA for Anna Nicole
I think (and I would perhaps agree if I were Larry) that he wants Anna's DNA sample just to make sure she did not fake her own death. Face it she had the money and with Howard on the baby's birth certificate . . . Not sure that she did fake her own death because I think she loved the spot light too much, but maybe that is the reason behind all this with the DNA from her.
Anna Nicole
Does anyone think her mom should get the right to take her back to Texas?  I know none of the players in this saga have much integrity but I think she should be buried next to her son in the Bahamas.  What a mess!
Anna Nicole
I think she should be buried next to her son.  I am not crazy about her mom, but I don't like Howard either.  It looks like everyone is looking to get something from her.  It's such a sad story...
Anna Nicole
I guess they found 11 different RX for pain killers and sedatives in Anna Nicole's room, all in the name of Howard Stern... Looks fishier and fishier...
Anna Nicole - an old friend
I met Anna Nicole years ago in Texas when we knew her as Nicki before playboy and before her millionaire.

Nicki was smart and could read people very well. She came from a rough upbringing and if you ever heard her tell stories of her childhood you would understand the anger she showed on camera. Her mother was a very unpleasant person and was only interested in the almighty dollar not her daughter or grandson unless Nicki had money for her. I hope that Nicki's mom doesnt get the baby but I am not sure any of the other choices would be better. I just pray that the courts are smart enough to appoint the baby a good lawyer and guardian to oversee her money and make sure that it lasts until she is old enough to control it.

DNA
The baby for all intense purposes is a Bahamian citizen. I think she would qualify for dual citizenship but am not sure. But as long as she stays in the bahamas the US cannot make them do anything although the bahamian court could. I am sure that that is why Nicki gave birth there and why she had not brought the baby with her when she returned to the US. For some reason she did not want the baby to be tested probably because the photog isn't the father and didnt want to have to go through the whole who is my baby's daddy thing. you notice none of these other "fathers" came forward until there was a chance they would control her fortune.

On a final note Nicki may have been a lot of things in her life but ignorant was not one of them.
Yep and no one else is after poor Anna Nicole's
tee heee
father of anna nicole
This just in Larry is the father.
Anna Nicole's burial on hold maybe
Anna Nicole's mother is trying to stop her daughter from being buried right now.  Also the father of Daniel is trying to have his son's body exhumed.   This is really sickening.   Let her REST IN PEACE already.
Didn't you see the Anna Nicole interview
on ET?  She was beaten and abused by her mother from the sound of it.  Being a cop makes no difference, if you have anger problems they can even be worse with stressful job like that.  She HATED her mother and during the interview was spitting fire when she was talking about her.  She vowed never to let her mother go near her baby daughter Danielynn.  A mother is much more than just giving birth. 
Somebody explain this Anna Nicole's mother doing what I have just seen
At the funeral her mother spread dirt/concrete whatever over her daughter's grave, looked like she was pulling it from the bed of a truck but then she walked on the grave?? What in the world was that all about? Anyone have any other information on that - I missed the whole story. Thanks.
I agree, just tell them to stop all that Anna Nicole Smith
!!!
makes me thing Anna Nicole wasn't so stupid after all. NM
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One of Vergie's (Anna Nicole's mother) attorneys passed out. He said he is a diabetic. nm
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**Anna Nicole Smith** collapses, unresponsive at Hard Rock Hotel in FL.
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Kinda like asking if OJ killed Nicole or not NM
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Kristen Nicole to be exact. I love that. Or
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I named my daughters Katie Ann and Kelsey Nicole. sm
Our son is Kyle. I also like the name Kellen for a boy or a girl. Good luck!
Anna
Been wondering that myself. Wonder what will happen to the baby girl?
Anna's DNA
They want Anna's DNA to make sure the baby they test is Anna's and they don't do a "baby switch" so that it won't look like L. Birkhead is the father.
anna
but her mother has had nothing to do with her for years so why she get her. She would have told Howard where she would have wanted to be buried over her mother. Bury her next to her son. Who would not want to be with their own child. Obviously she picked that site for her child to be buried there, bury her next to him. She bought the 4 plots for a reason.
Anna
I so agree with you. I believe she bought the 4 plots so at some point in time she could be buried next to her son. She hated her mother from what I have seen, so why should the mother have any say? Anna did not buy plots in Texas. I think she has a right to be put to rest beside her child.
anna
I totally agree. Who would think that we would have to bury our children before us. She did just buy these plots recently. It is not like she bought them 30 years ago.
Anna
Yes I know. I had my thoughts on that from day one. I guess maybe we will never know, but it doesn't look good.
anna
He did not brainwash her against her mom. She left her mom when she was a teenager. As far as the baby, I believe both and Anna did know that she wasn't his but that is what Anna chose. He did not kidnap and you can't even compare the two. That is what she wanted. She had the money and the means and could have got away from him if she wanted.
Thanks Anna
I am glad they like us and want to spend time here, just not every weekend.

I think part of it is that I am pregnant and hormonal. I am also used to having little to no family (especially in-laws) and its just a huge adjustment. Another part is that I don't want to be the "bad guy" but I guess sometimes I will have to if I don't want the mess. Husbands don't think of things like wives do. Its unfair of me to expect him to. Third, our son never spends substantial time over there unless we are with him. BUT, next time he is complaining he's bored maybe I'll tell him to call his uncle and see if he can come over. They can return the favor once in a while.
Anna is now dead
I just saw on the Comcast home page Anna is now dead?
Anna's Baby
Yes! Yes! Yes! The baby should be with the real father now.
7 wills on Anna's son and they go to
Howard Stern? Just heard this on the news a minute ago. Unbelievable. This is getting as thick as pea soup now. Something rotten in Denmark I sayeth.
Anna banana, thanks, that is very...
... gracious and generous, but I really have got it together and it's okay.  You are so right; I'm looking forward to it being a lot of fun with my good friends at work!  Thanks so much anyway--
Thank you Nature and Anna
It's nice that others can sympathize with me. I just don't know what it is. One time years and years ago I told him I was feeling depressed and wanted to talk with a counselor. Boy did we have a blow out. He told me I should be able to talk to him about anything and I told him I can't. I told him he judges me and no matter what I feel or think he comes back with "you need to look at things the way I do". He's done that ever since we got married. When I wanted children and he didn't I was supposed to look at things the way he did. When I wanted to see my family but he didn't want me to travel because flying was not safe I was suppose to look at things the way he does. Once I told him you need to look at this the way I do and he said to me "no, because your wrong". I've heard how wrong I am for 25 years now that I just keep my feelings and opinions to myself. Once I accidentally broke a leaf off of one of his plants and he yelled at me for about 2 or 3 hours and I felt like a child with him saying "do you have anything to say for yourself". Then I got the same lecture for 2 hours my dad would give me growing up, and him saying I need to look at this the way he does (me destroying his plants and how would I feel if he destroyed something of mine). Oh hears a good one that will give you a laugh.... we were talking about how bad the crime is where we live. I told him that they should allow citizens from each section of the town pull a neighborhood watch and drive around and have the authority to arrest individuals committing crimes. He looked at me like I was nuts and said 'how, how, how do you think they would do that, they don't have enough money, etc, etc. Then he told me the way to solve it would be to evacuate everyone out of the city, shut down all the roads and make the town a ghost town (mind you this is a town of over 50K people with businesses, restaurants, and stores throught). HA HA...I felt like saying...gee your right honey, I should look at things the way you do.

I guess the weirdest thing though is that I've never had dreams with my my DH in my dreams. Maybe in the beginning I had a dream or two, but that was maybe 20 years ago. Also I know a lot of people can see themselves older and with their spouses, but I have never ever pictured us old together. I don't know what it is but it's like when I look into my future I can see myself with gray hair and being with my family and friends, but he's just not there.

Sometimes I read people's messages and am a little envious and would like to be in a relationship like some are, but I cannot imagine what that would be like. But on the otherhand, I am a very independent person, very sure of myself, and the thought of being alone does not bother me at all. I always think that being alone does not necessarily mean being lonely.

Anyway...just wanted to say thanks for your kind words.
fox news is saying that anna is dead. i think it's very sad too. nm
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I have done a lot of research on Anna in the past and of course now sm
since her death. Sorry, but none of your claims are true, according to my facts. No offense against you.

First, the son of the billionaire died on June 20 of last year after a short battle with an infection. So there goes the claims that the billionaire's did that.

Second. Anna is not married to Howard K. Stern, her attorney. They had a committment ceremony which both the Bahamas and the US do not recognize. UNLESS she has a will, which at this point we do not know, Howard isn't entitled to anything, BUT Daniel Lynn, her daughter, is. So, to me, I don't think he did it. I do, however, think he contributed to Daniel's death since there are reports that he immediately dumped pills down the toilet in her hospital room in the Bahamas once he realized Daniel was dead. Many reports on this one. He gave Daniel Vicodin (which is also what Anna was claimed to be addicted to), and Daniel was also on 2 other antidepressants he began taking a few months prior.

As far as Larry Birkhead, the previous boyfriend, according to his website dated Feb. 8, Anna was his soul mate. He was waiting for her to come back to him and leave Howard so they could raise their baby together. I know, weird. He just sent her a box with a photo album and clothes for the baby with a picture of both of them when they were together. It is said that he has been unconsolable since hearing of her death. I feel for him. That is his child, if you ask me. It is. Doesn't even look like Howard, who is Jewish. I am part Jewish. Very dark skin, dark hair. The baby is very, very fair skinned, almost red hair, light eyes. Most definitely not Howard's in my honest opinion.

Third, or fourth point. And I promise, I'll be done after this. Anna died of pure heartbreak, drug overdose, and a combination of the flu/pneumonia. Sources say she has never been the same since Sep. 10 when her son died. They said, she just lost her spark. I can't imagine. I definitely believe, after coming to my own conclusions, that Anna died of unintentional suicide.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox now! LOL
Anna Nichole is still being taken advantage of, even in
death with her supposedly beloved, yeh right, Howard Stern who now I hear has sold the rights for her funeral to Entertainment Tonight for 3+ million. Why am I not shocked by this? Hearing complaints from other news services unable to get any kind of story at all, all involved - her mother, her former boyfriend Larry and her baby daddy (supposedly) Howard others think are being paid $$$ not to talk but exclusively to ET. Heard Fox news just say they do not pay for stories, well I guess some are not that honorable.
he''s in charge is what it means since Anna is dead.....

WHAT IS A GUARDIAN AD LITEM?

A guardian ad litem is an individual appointed by probate court before or during a proceeding.  Responsibilities may include prosecuting an action on behalf of an individual, providing information to a respondent, conducting an investigation, and making a report and recommendation to the court.


http://courts.co.calhoun.mi.us/book042a.htm


And I think he brain-washed Anna, got her to turn
against her mother, got her to go to the Bahamas, knowing good and well he was not the father- if he were do you not think he would have DEMANDED a DNA some time ago?? So simple if you think about it. He did not give 1 at the end and last night when his family was on Entertainment Tonight, I could tell by the way they were talking was not his, telling how they hated for the kid to be taken away- it is NOT his kid. He was the same as kidnapping the child, otherwise like I said the DNA would have been done at the beginning. Use your senses, ok?
Stern had SOMETHING to do with Daniel and Anna's death. That's what I
believe anyway.  I also don't think he loved that baby.  He loved that baby's MONEY.  I think Larry loved Anna and loves his daughter and I think he deserves the money to raise his daughter on, put her through college, etc.  Stern got what he deserved.  What a creep.
Anna Nichole's mother did not just put dirt or whatever on the grave, she
actually WALKED over the top of the grave. I was shocked because where I live so disrespectful, had never ever seen this done before. I am southern and her mother also lives in the south. Just not done in my neck of the woods. Even after burial, I always try to go around marked graves, never treading on them if I can at all keep from doing so.
Judge just said Anna Nichole baby daughter has remains and will be left up
to what the babys lawyer wants. Stern does not win!!
Thanks for the update. I'm sorry about
your brother and his family. What a shame. I'm glad Sasha had a good day. It must be really hard for you, because you probably want to pour your heart out to your brother about Misha, but you probably don't feel comfortable doing that with his loss, too. Well, I'll be thinking about you and sending up prayers, now for your whole family. I hope tomorrow is a better day, and so on, and so on.
Thanks for the update
Hi Stephanie. Glad to hear that your trip to the doctor was helpful. I know I really need to
get into the exercise too. Never was that big on exercise before, but now with the pain and fatigue, it is really hard to get motivated. I will just have to force myself. Yuck!!!

Update
I should add that I already get weekly massages and have for the last 4 years. My therapist has been advising me to try chiro for about 3 of those years. Of course, I waited until I really hurt before I went! I asked a friend of mine where she was going and she said that she really trusted him, so I decided to try where she goes. He took a detailed history and 2 x-rays. He also gave me a little adjustment, which has helped a little. It was just gentle pressure. I go back tomorrow to see about a treatment plan.

Thank you very much to everyone who offered suggestions of what to look for. Your back is really nothing to mess around with!
Update on dog from below sm
The poor thing died. I'm so heartsick. The police want an official statement from all of us who saw this morning (there were 4 of us). The owner said her dog was "poisoned."  I'm going up to the station in a while to talk with the chief.  I'll have more information later.
Update on my vet job
So I started out just cleaning nights and giving the animals fluids/meds on the weekends and cleaning more.  One of the day girls fell down some stairs so the vet asked me to fill in for her.  I got a crash course in doing anesthesia!  I really like it but have had a couple animals stop breathing a few times and one his heart actually stopped.  I almost peed my pants when that happened.  I also got to do x-rays and an EKG on a dog Monday.  If only this job paid better than transcription 
Update......

Well, I just checked my account again and the $2420 is back in the account due to non-sufficient funds.  There is, however, a $34 non-sufficient funds fee that will be refunded back to me after the dispute is over.  I know that in the big picture of things this does not sound like a lot of money, but it's my money I worked for and intend to get back.  I also called the bank back and made sure that PayPal could not try to take out the money again since it was reversed due to NSF.  After the dispute and we know more information, I can totally freeze PayPal from ever taking any money out of my account again.  Right now it can only be done for the exact amount they tried to take out yesterday.  I also told PayPal to take every bit of information they had on me out of their system, that I would never be needing their services again. 


The scammers just didn't count on me being a poor working girl with little money left at the end of the month.  Maybe they should give working a try instead of trying to steal other people's hard-earned money. 


Thank you all for your replies.  This just makes me all the more aware of what I am doing on-line.  I have bought many items on-line, and this is the first time anything like this has happened to me.  If they hadn't been so greedy, I probably would have had to wait out the whole ten days. 


 


 


 


Thank you for the update sm
I started to ask yesterday but didn't send my post through because I thought it might be to painful. Please know that many here are thinking about you. Prayers.
Thanks for the update. That was
enjoyable to read.

Sounds like the birds appreciate each other already.

Yesterday I had a great time watching several cardinals bathing in my sprinkler. It is so hot that they stayed in the water for hours. My impatiens appreciated the extra-long shower they received because the cardinals were so cute. It's not my day to water today, but the cardinals show up now and then, hoping.

They ignore the shallow birdbath.
Thank you for the update

At least the police know about the situation. Maybe they can have a talk with the owners when they return.


If you know anyone who doesn't live in your neighborhood who would like to have a sheltie - you know, if it were me, I would give it to them. The neighbors have been gone so long, if the dog disappears one night, who is to say what happened, right? They don't deserve to have a dog if they are going to treat it this way.


JMHO


thanks for update

Hi Trose,


Glad you called your brother and went to your doc today....ERs on the wknd are rough.  Hope you get feeling better soon.   Keep us all updated.   Cat  


Update...
First of all, thanks to everyone for their thoughts.

I went to the hospital myself and began asking questions of the charge nurse. She was very helpful and reviewed the chart and also got on the phone to the various doctors to answer my questions.

The problem is not what I thought it was. He WAS evaluated by a doctor and even had a CT scan in the first 30 minutes after he was admitted. None of the family knew this as no one had made it to the hospital at this point. Apparently, FIL just did not remember this. I guess the moral to this is do not let a patient out of your sight even for a short period of time.

He is being kept n.p.o. due to the head injury and in case they needed to operate (which by the way they are doing tomorrow to relieve compression on the spinal cord.) He was not given dextrose through his IV because of its potential to cause swelling, which is not a desired effect in a patient with a head injury. He did get food trays today, but will not receive anything else until after his surgery first thing in the morning.

Thanks again for everyone's recommendations.
An update...

Well, I had a heart to heart with my daughter yesterday.  I broke down in tears and just told her how disappointed I was in her decision to become sexually active and how my heart was broken for her.  She cried and said she didn't want to do it again, so I hope she was being honest with me.  I found out more disturbing information on her loser boyfriend having to do with some legal trouble he's been in.  We are giving her a chance to break up with him (she doesn't know that we know about the probation, arrests, etc.), but if she doesn't, we may press charges against him, just to get rid of the loser. 


Backtracking a bit, our son works for the sheriff's department, along with a lot of his buddies, who did some checking on this guy, and dug up a laundry list of trouble he's been in.  Our son is talking to our daughter today, telling her what he knows, and giving her til tonight to break it off completely with this guy, or he's telling her he'll file charges himself against this boy.  He's already checked it all out and there are things we can get him on, but we really, REALLY don't want to go this route.  It would be so hard on our daughter.  I just want the boyfriend to disappear, go away, and leave her alone.  So now, it's not so much about s-e-x anymore, but about her getting herself into some legal trouble by association with this idiot. 


AND...his mother told my DD's best friend and my DD that she would LIE TO US about the whole situation if need be.  How can a mother allow a girl to hang out with her loser, ex-con son??? It is beyond me...if it were my son, I'd tell the girl to run, not walk, away from him, he's nothing but trouble. 


Anyway, thanks y'all so much for the support and advice.  I think I handled it ok.  I think she was shocked and surprised at how upset I was.  I just admitted to her that I didn't expect this so soon, that I really didn't know how to handle it, and that I was disappointed in her actions, BUT that her father and I both love her very, very much and we will always be here for her, no matter what happens. 


It was really emotional, but good I think for the both of us.  Her 2 best friends came in in the middle of it all, and they too spilled their guts to her, so that helped also. We all cried and laughed, and talked.  BTW, I don't mention her father much, but he's here...we're married and living together...all 3 of my kids have the same father.  We've been married over 20 years now.  He's mad, upset, disappointed, and just chomping at the bit to get his hands around this kid's throat, of course...that's how men handle things, right? But overall, he's been great. 


Thanks again, y'all!