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Not educational. This is something that should be the parents job to teach, not the school. sm

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Field trip to see lesbian wedding - educational or not?

Besides, why should school children have a field trip to ANY wedding? What would people say if someone had a field trip to a church service? These are things that parents need to be able to teach their children when the time is right.


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I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
Their parents don't teach them
and also, they don't get those classes at school. I guess also I was fortunate in that my mother was a tailor and dressmaker and I used to help her with finishing clothes; buttons, etc.

It is such a disposable society today also. If it is broken, don't fix it but toss it out and buy something new. With the economy the way it is, possibly that might change.
Good grief. Do parents not teach their
kids ANYTHING anymore?
I am 31 and they didn't teach home ec in school...
We had college prep courses...Believe me, I wish I could sew as well...doesn't mean I can't learn now but no, I was never taught in school...
If they watch TV and go on line and go to school, parents can't do squat these days.
Sad but true.
Poll for parents with school aged kids at home...sm

1.  What ages are your kids?


2.  Do they have their own cell phone?


3.  Do they have their own TV and or computer in their room?  If so, are there set hours they're allowed to use these:


4. Do they receive an allowance?  If so, are they required to do chores to receive this?


As for our house, here's the answers.  Kids are 15 and 8.  15-year-old has a cell phone and pays her bill.  15-year-old has a TV.  The kids share 1 PC that is where we can see what they're doing on it, and they're limited to no more than an hour a day on it if it's a school day.  We do have parental controls in place.  They don't receive an allowance but they are aware of a special chores list that they can choose to do extra things around the house to make money.  They are required to keep their rooms and bathrooms cleaned, as well as alternate cleaning up the kitchen after dinner.


Well, this is one educational moment they
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She claims a wedding "isn't educational material".
They learn every day... from their teachers, from TV, their parents, their friends, etc.

Open-mindedness applies to all things, not just marriage, and what better time to learn to think with an open mind than when you're young?
Last time I was in SF, there was NAKED biking group parading down the road. Now THAT was educational
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Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.

I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.

Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Art - BFA -- I don't want to teach and it - sm
openings for art teachers are few as it is, also it is hard to support yourself as an artist unless you are really, really good, or really, really lucky.
what does he teach?
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webistes regarding what they teach..SM

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://www.usinkorea.org/issues/users/index.htm


http://international.ucla.edu/asia/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://freekorea.us/2005/11/07/the-excesses-of-an-extremist-south-korean-teachers-union-force-the-government-into-action-3/


 


Not so much our moms as we just try to teach
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Well, that'll really teach her...
A lesson won't it now?  I mean being confined to a mansion with servants, cooks, etc., and nothing to do all day but swim, tan, whatever else she does...wow, talk about injustice...amazing
For me, it comes from not having anyone to teach you your worth when you are a kid (sm)
My husband was not nice even when we are dating. I had not been taught that I deserved to be treated with respect. Now you may say I am teaching my daughter the same thing - however, I'm not. I make sure that if she or my son see my husband treat me disrespectfully that I respond, in a respectful way to him that that is an inappropriate way for him to talk to me. I am still however, stuck with making a decision over what is better for the children. Sometimes these men who are bad husbands are not such bad fathers. It's a hard decision - not as easy as typing "just leave" on a message board.
Most people teach
their children Santa is an actual entity, not the spirit of Christmas.

My mom told me there was a St. Nicholas who gave to others and that "Santa" was just a way to replicate the wonderful intention of St. Nicholas.

Most people, including myself, lead their children to believe he is a real being, and it can be very disheartening when they find out it is not true.

Any thoughts on that specifically ... anyone?
well I figure if I don't teach them sm
they won't get it when they have to get out in the real world. If they are not going to school and want to live with you why should you pay all their bills?

BTW, what I did was put half of what they gave me away and when they left home I had a nice little nest egg to give back to them to get them started. But they didn't know I was doing that until the time came for them to move out.

In this economy it is very expensive to pay for everyones groceries, laundry soap, etc. I think its a disservice not to require something. Maybe not half or even a quarter, but something! I don't want anyone to wind up like my niece at 45 with no responsibility at all and living off her widowed mother and her fixed income while making 30 bucks an hour herself plus overtime and spending it as fast as she can. Oh yes this is also in the state with the worst economy in the nation..Michigan! But then I guess she thinks she is entitled.
Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
where I am they teach this class in 5th grade + up...
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I think it is great to teach your kids
My daughter attended a school for special needs children as a mentor when she was 3 and 4-years-old.  She loved it.  The special needs children really responded to my daughter and she made great friends.  What joy you and your daughter brought to this man's evening last night!  After all, we all just want to be accepted no matter our religion, creed, etc.  Thank you for sharing that nice story, and it sounds like your daughter has a caring/sharing heart!!!  Bravo to her and you for raising up such a nice person, which is much, much needed in today's society!   
They teach them to say that when their real little rednecks :-) (nm)
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Her mother isn't too lazy to teach her better sm
Her mother is riding her coattails and loving the party life. Her mother is too messed up herself to teach her anything.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
I teach English as a volunteer.
While there are immigrants here who do not choose to actively pursue learning the language via formal means, there are many who do. We have a waiting list of up to 12-14 months due to class space restrictions and a lack of volunteers. English is not an easy language to learn, and it takes time.
And if you open it up for her to teach them her way, then you are opening it up to all (sm)
That means people who are homophobic or racist can also teach children their point of view? There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
400 lines per hour? You need to teach me a few things! LOL nm
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I think you're terrible. Is this what you teach your children?
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Teach him the phrase, "Neither a borrower nor a
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Then why did you just say it would teach tolerance? Apparently there was a goal. sm
I will teach my children love and tolerance myself. I carried them in my body and ate healthy foods, gave birth, and have taken care of them since the day they were born. I make the decisions for them. Thank God for now Americans are still free and we get to make those choices for our own children. And I would bet you don't have any.
Send the police to his house, this will teach him
a lesson, it is harassment.
How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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So the 'right way' to parent is to teach your kids to hate.
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you all should also teach your girls about their cycle and how ovulation coincides with timing for p
i truly believe if young girls know how to chart their cycles and that there was only that 3-4 day period a month that they could get pregnant, teenage pregnancy would drop. ovulation falls basically in the middle of the no period cycle, which is the time most girls would be more likely to have sex to start with thus why you hear of so many girls getting pregnant having sex only one time. face it, they are gonna do it so help teach them as a mother to chart their cycles, protect themselves, and avoid those few days.
If wanting to teach my son our own family values makes me a bigot..then so be it. sm
I will gladly wear that label. Flame away if you want.

I will NEVER let some school teacher try to foist her own opinions on my child. And to do this on school time??

The bible flat out says that man should not lie with man or woman with woman. If that school district is an example of what passes for family values in SF, no wonder Michael Savage calls it San Fran Sicko. I have to agree with him. Pretty dress or no pretty dress.
it's not illegal, but it's inappropriate & he shouldn't be allowed to teach anymore
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yoga pants. I also teach kickboxing so that's pretty much my uniform. nm
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In our school district you can go to any school that you want
but you actually have to pay if you don't live in the District. The private schools here are outrageously priced. You could almost send your child to a community college for the amount they charge.
Jewlery making kits/supplies? Can you teach them to knit or crochet? Hand sewing? Hand-made
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Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.


My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents.  Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage.  I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door.  They did the same at our house.  To me is is a minor thing and I did not care,  thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by.   If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called.  Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever.  Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way.   But that is me.  
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.

My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
My parents used to do this...
I can remember begging my mom for the list of names and numbers and she'd never give in.  Drove us 4 kids up the wall!  But thinking back, it was fun!  Merry Christmas y'all!!!
Where are the parents???

I don't put the blame totally on Brittany (most of it I do, but not all of it).  Her parents should be hauled down with her.  Where in the world were they when this all was beginning.  If it was me my mom and dad would be right there beside me saying what in the world is going on and they would get me the counseling I needed (and not allow me to leave when I wanted to).  I don't care if she is a "pop" star or not.  If more of the parents of these "stars" would act like parents you would think their children would behave more rationally.  I look at Brittany and lots of her friends and they really are still children.  I have a brother-in-law who is 48 and acts like he's 16 and needs to be kept in line by his mom.  Maybe the parents are too worried that their famous kids will stop giving them money....who knows.  Maybe not, but it looks like it to me.


parents
I had a daughter in a similar situation. Her school had a tutoring program after schools with actual teachers and that really helped her a lot. She actually was doing okay in the class, but just didn't feel confident. The teachers made her feel more sure of herself and that seemed to make all the difference. I'd talk with the physics teacher or counselor to see if they can work with her before she drops the class.
Parents what would you do?

I'm looking for some advice.  My daughter just started the 9th grade.  She's been in accellerated/Honors classes for a few years and she has always maintained a 98+ average.   This year she's taking Physics, a 12th grade class.  She's only been back to school for less than two weeks and she's so stressed out.  She wants to drop out of the class already.  I told her to give it to the first semester which will be over in ten weeks to see how it goes.  My husband feels that she has to take it eventually so she should say in the class.  She's afraid that this course is going to ruin her grade point average that she's very proud of.  I think she should talk to the teacher and her counselor to see what advice they have.  Her teacher is one that gives the work and says do it without really teaching them how to do anything.  I'm so illiterate when it comes to science I'm no help at all.  My husband took physics years ago and he tried to work with her last night, but I'm not sure how much he remembers himself.  What would you do if your child was in the same predicament?