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Their parents don't teach them

Posted By: Vanessa on 2009-01-19
In Reply to: I'm noticing a trend with younger women.. - MTinMT

and also, they don't get those classes at school. I guess also I was fortunate in that my mother was a tailor and dressmaker and I used to help her with finishing clothes; buttons, etc.

It is such a disposable society today also. If it is broken, don't fix it but toss it out and buy something new. With the economy the way it is, possibly that might change.


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Not educational. This is something that should be the parents job to teach, not the school. sm
Besides, why should school children have a field trip to ANY wedding? What would people say if someone had a field trip to a church service? These are things that parents need to be able to teach their children when the time is right.
Good grief. Do parents not teach their
kids ANYTHING anymore?
I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
Art - BFA -- I don't want to teach and it - sm
openings for art teachers are few as it is, also it is hard to support yourself as an artist unless you are really, really good, or really, really lucky.
what does he teach?
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webistes regarding what they teach..SM

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://www.usinkorea.org/issues/users/index.htm


http://international.ucla.edu/asia/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://freekorea.us/2005/11/07/the-excesses-of-an-extremist-south-korean-teachers-union-force-the-government-into-action-3/


 


Not so much our moms as we just try to teach
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Well, that'll really teach her...
A lesson won't it now?  I mean being confined to a mansion with servants, cooks, etc., and nothing to do all day but swim, tan, whatever else she does...wow, talk about injustice...amazing
For me, it comes from not having anyone to teach you your worth when you are a kid (sm)
My husband was not nice even when we are dating. I had not been taught that I deserved to be treated with respect. Now you may say I am teaching my daughter the same thing - however, I'm not. I make sure that if she or my son see my husband treat me disrespectfully that I respond, in a respectful way to him that that is an inappropriate way for him to talk to me. I am still however, stuck with making a decision over what is better for the children. Sometimes these men who are bad husbands are not such bad fathers. It's a hard decision - not as easy as typing "just leave" on a message board.
Most people teach
their children Santa is an actual entity, not the spirit of Christmas.

My mom told me there was a St. Nicholas who gave to others and that "Santa" was just a way to replicate the wonderful intention of St. Nicholas.

Most people, including myself, lead their children to believe he is a real being, and it can be very disheartening when they find out it is not true.

Any thoughts on that specifically ... anyone?
well I figure if I don't teach them sm
they won't get it when they have to get out in the real world. If they are not going to school and want to live with you why should you pay all their bills?

BTW, what I did was put half of what they gave me away and when they left home I had a nice little nest egg to give back to them to get them started. But they didn't know I was doing that until the time came for them to move out.

In this economy it is very expensive to pay for everyones groceries, laundry soap, etc. I think its a disservice not to require something. Maybe not half or even a quarter, but something! I don't want anyone to wind up like my niece at 45 with no responsibility at all and living off her widowed mother and her fixed income while making 30 bucks an hour herself plus overtime and spending it as fast as she can. Oh yes this is also in the state with the worst economy in the nation..Michigan! But then I guess she thinks she is entitled.
where I am they teach this class in 5th grade + up...
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I think it is great to teach your kids
My daughter attended a school for special needs children as a mentor when she was 3 and 4-years-old.  She loved it.  The special needs children really responded to my daughter and she made great friends.  What joy you and your daughter brought to this man's evening last night!  After all, we all just want to be accepted no matter our religion, creed, etc.  Thank you for sharing that nice story, and it sounds like your daughter has a caring/sharing heart!!!  Bravo to her and you for raising up such a nice person, which is much, much needed in today's society!   
They teach them to say that when their real little rednecks :-) (nm)
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Her mother isn't too lazy to teach her better sm
Her mother is riding her coattails and loving the party life. Her mother is too messed up herself to teach her anything.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
I teach English as a volunteer.
While there are immigrants here who do not choose to actively pursue learning the language via formal means, there are many who do. We have a waiting list of up to 12-14 months due to class space restrictions and a lack of volunteers. English is not an easy language to learn, and it takes time.
And if you open it up for her to teach them her way, then you are opening it up to all (sm)
That means people who are homophobic or racist can also teach children their point of view? There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
400 lines per hour? You need to teach me a few things! LOL nm
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I think you're terrible. Is this what you teach your children?
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Teach him the phrase, "Neither a borrower nor a
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Then why did you just say it would teach tolerance? Apparently there was a goal. sm
I will teach my children love and tolerance myself. I carried them in my body and ate healthy foods, gave birth, and have taken care of them since the day they were born. I make the decisions for them. Thank God for now Americans are still free and we get to make those choices for our own children. And I would bet you don't have any.
I am 31 and they didn't teach home ec in school...
We had college prep courses...Believe me, I wish I could sew as well...doesn't mean I can't learn now but no, I was never taught in school...
Send the police to his house, this will teach him
a lesson, it is harassment.
So the 'right way' to parent is to teach your kids to hate.
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you all should also teach your girls about their cycle and how ovulation coincides with timing for p
i truly believe if young girls know how to chart their cycles and that there was only that 3-4 day period a month that they could get pregnant, teenage pregnancy would drop. ovulation falls basically in the middle of the no period cycle, which is the time most girls would be more likely to have sex to start with thus why you hear of so many girls getting pregnant having sex only one time. face it, they are gonna do it so help teach them as a mother to chart their cycles, protect themselves, and avoid those few days.
If wanting to teach my son our own family values makes me a bigot..then so be it. sm
I will gladly wear that label. Flame away if you want.

I will NEVER let some school teacher try to foist her own opinions on my child. And to do this on school time??

The bible flat out says that man should not lie with man or woman with woman. If that school district is an example of what passes for family values in SF, no wonder Michael Savage calls it San Fran Sicko. I have to agree with him. Pretty dress or no pretty dress.
it's not illegal, but it's inappropriate & he shouldn't be allowed to teach anymore
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yoga pants. I also teach kickboxing so that's pretty much my uniform. nm
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Jewlery making kits/supplies? Can you teach them to knit or crochet? Hand sewing? Hand-made
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Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.


My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents.  Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage.  I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door.  They did the same at our house.  To me is is a minor thing and I did not care,  thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by.   If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called.  Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever.  Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way.   But that is me.  
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.

My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
My parents used to do this...
I can remember begging my mom for the list of names and numbers and she'd never give in.  Drove us 4 kids up the wall!  But thinking back, it was fun!  Merry Christmas y'all!!!
Where are the parents???

I don't put the blame totally on Brittany (most of it I do, but not all of it).  Her parents should be hauled down with her.  Where in the world were they when this all was beginning.  If it was me my mom and dad would be right there beside me saying what in the world is going on and they would get me the counseling I needed (and not allow me to leave when I wanted to).  I don't care if she is a "pop" star or not.  If more of the parents of these "stars" would act like parents you would think their children would behave more rationally.  I look at Brittany and lots of her friends and they really are still children.  I have a brother-in-law who is 48 and acts like he's 16 and needs to be kept in line by his mom.  Maybe the parents are too worried that their famous kids will stop giving them money....who knows.  Maybe not, but it looks like it to me.


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I had a daughter in a similar situation. Her school had a tutoring program after schools with actual teachers and that really helped her a lot. She actually was doing okay in the class, but just didn't feel confident. The teachers made her feel more sure of herself and that seemed to make all the difference. I'd talk with the physics teacher or counselor to see if they can work with her before she drops the class.
Parents what would you do?

I'm looking for some advice.  My daughter just started the 9th grade.  She's been in accellerated/Honors classes for a few years and she has always maintained a 98+ average.   This year she's taking Physics, a 12th grade class.  She's only been back to school for less than two weeks and she's so stressed out.  She wants to drop out of the class already.  I told her to give it to the first semester which will be over in ten weeks to see how it goes.  My husband feels that she has to take it eventually so she should say in the class.  She's afraid that this course is going to ruin her grade point average that she's very proud of.  I think she should talk to the teacher and her counselor to see what advice they have.  Her teacher is one that gives the work and says do it without really teaching them how to do anything.  I'm so illiterate when it comes to science I'm no help at all.  My husband took physics years ago and he tried to work with her last night, but I'm not sure how much he remembers himself.  What would you do if your child was in the same predicament?


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careful, your face will freeze that way. go to your room and wait. killer was "I never thought I could be so disappointed in you. I thought we raised you better than that".
parents
how could I forget this one? Can't never accomplished anything.
never make fun of what someone does for a living as long as it is an honest job.
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My parents helped very little - they were very loving, but very poor. I worked, had no car, ate very simple cheap foods - that is the only way I could have done it. . I could not help my daughter much either - she got scholarships, took out loans and worked - full time one year while attending college full-time. . If parents can help, I think they should. . I think this mom is willing to help, just not change her entire life, which she should not have to.
This all comes down to the parents

I think those women are making a big mistake.  I love my sister and nephew, don't get me wrong.  But he is like that 7 yo and it drives me crazy.  BUT my sister and BIL are to blame, I feel.  He gets a toy every time they're in a store.  He gets a new toy if he's good at the dentist.  My sister feels "guilty" if he likes something and she doesn't run out and get it.  They buy him major video games just because, instead of reserving these things for birthdays or Christmas.  They will go out and buy him a $200 item in the middle of the week and when I ask what the occasion is?  Nothing, we just thought he'd like it!


He is well behaved and they don't use the toys as bribes, but yet still, it's unbelievable some of the stuff they do.  Yes, it's their only child, but I'm amazed.  Growing up when we would talk, my sister had definite opinions about what she would and would not do when she had children, and this is not how she felt back then. 


But he doesn't know anything about Monopoly or playing cards, or any of that stuff.  In my opinion, they're raising him to be materialistic and as an adult I can see him as one of those guys who always has to have the latest toys to impress the other guys.  Just my opinion.


 


You might be right, but my parents had me so...
afraid of them that I would NEVER have considered such a thing. Although I do not have a teenager yet, my hope is to have that kind of fear and, yes, respect by the time they are that age. However, I might live to eat my words yet. I just think that with a teenage girl, this might not really have been about a wedding after all--it could have been about a date to a wedding and I find that scary.
See what I mean? Some parents have no
consideration for anyone but themselves. Yes, parenting is a tough job. Some people do it better than others. But it doesn't give the less-than-adequate parents the right to inflict their out-of-control brats on others.

I love how they all go on the defensive, too, if you call them out on it. Suddenly they accuse the person objecting to their kids of not having kids themselves. (Usually not true).

It all boils down to consideration. And letting your infant scream through 3/4 of a movie, or a wedding ceremony, is pretty much akin to looking the other way while your dog drops a load of steaming poop on a neighbor's front lawn.
I would believe most parents would know
already.
You could do what my parents did to me
I stayed past curfew one too many times. First time they let it slide, second time the warned me and third time said I disobeyed, so they marched into my room, grabbed a suitcase and said if I didn't want to obey their rules than to get out and see if I could live somewhere cheaper and have a car whenever I wanted it. Even though the car was mine (old Valiant (think Chrysler made it, but it was mine), but they told me the car was not an option and would not be going with me.

It took me about 30 minutes of begging and pleading for them to let me to stay and I had to do some extra work around the house as punishment for disobeying them.

The only thing was back then 18 was legal age (drinking, etc). Your daughter is not of legal age yet. I'm not saying this is your or your daughter because I don't know you, but parents seem to always believe their kids are responsible. My sister thinks her 19-year-old son is responsible, but he shows time and time again he is not. I have a friend who boasted about how responsible her 17-year-old son is, he doesn't smoke or drink and studies in school and gets good grades and only goes out to go to the library. A few days later (Sat night) the police had brought him home as he was caught at a party drinking.

Took a lot of time for my parents to consider me responsible after some of the stuff I did (staying out past curfew, etc). Parents should not be so quick to trust their kids. They need to earn trust.
Where are parents?

Are the parents going to be home that allow this?  In Connecticut if there was underage drinking and something went wrong the parents would be in trouble as much as the rest of the kids. Just in one month we lost 5 teenagers in 3 different accidents for drinking and loosing control of their cars and running them up a pole.  A parents worse nightmare.  


I never had a problem with my two daughters with drinking underage at home. When they are at college I do not loose any sleep over it because what I don't see or know I cannot worry about it.  I trust they will make the right decisions but they are away so who knows.


My parents.
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