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Parenting advice needed! I am losing my mind with my 14yo son. SM

Posted By: MissouriMT on 2006-10-11
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He is so smart.  I got his first grade card a couple of weeks ago, 2 Fs (Science and Computer Lit) and a D+ in English.  The rest of his grades were acceptable.  The problem isn't that he doesn't understand the subject matter in these classes, but that he simply doesn't do the work, doesn't turn in homework assignments, NOTHING! 


I started having trouble with him last year and he barely passed the 7th grade.  Now, here it is the beginning of a new school year and he's doing the exact same thing.  He's grounded, of course, but that doesn't seem to make a difference to him.  Last night his English teacher called to tell me he hasn't turned in any assignments since the beginning of the new quarter, that he simply sits there at his desk doing nothing while the rest of the class works.  She said he seems to be easily distracted.


When I talk to him about school, he gives me attitude.  Last night after I hung up with the English teacher, I was very angry, and proceeded to ground him longer and took away his IPod.  He had the audacity to say "mom, you're really making me mad (only he didn't say "making me mad").  I took step toward him because I was about ready to slap his disrespectiful mouth and he said "you better not lay a hand on me."  He threatened me!  So I basically took a deep breath and said "son you do not want to take me on."  And then I proceeded to tell him that he would be staying after school with his English teacher until further notice and that I will be picking him up every day after school to make sure he brings home all his books and homework.


I don't know what else to do.  I have asked his teachers to keep me informed via email cause I'm always at my computer during the day.  His Science teacher just emailed me and said he didn't turn in his assignment today.  After all that last night and he STILL didn't turn in his assignment!


I tried to be understanding because he's at a new school in a new town, but socially he's happier than I've seen him in a long time.  He has made a bunch of new friends, he's planning on going out for the basketball team.  At first I tried to blame his attitude problems on the move and the new school, but he was doing the exact same thing last year at his old school.  His dad and I have separated and maybe that has something to do with it, but life has been less stressful without his dad here, even my son has said so.


Please give me some advice.  I've thought about talking to the school counseling, going to family counseling, having my son see a therapist.  I just don't know what to do.  I feel like I'm failing as a parent here and I don't know what to do.


Thanks for letting me spill my guts.




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Okay, I will try to make this short.  We send our son to Catholic school.  We are Catholic but we also love the atmosphere, i.e. safe and a good community environment.  He is in second grade.


When I pick him up today, he tells me this classmate girl has stabbed him in the arm with her pencil!  He had to have an ice pack on it for an hour and it still hurts him.  She poked thru his shirt and now it's bruised with a red mark in the center.  She has a short fuse and apparently was mad that he was invading her "space."  They have 4 stations at one table, so it could be difficult for a child to discern where one space ends and another begins.


I am pi**ed off about this.


1.  The school didn't call me, but the they did the other mother.


2.  The girl's mother (whom I know) hasn't called me about it.


3.  I spoke with the principal briefly because his teacher had left by the time I got there, but he is going to talk to the girl and my son about it tomorrow and about personal space.  She was in his office for an hour until dismissal today.


I know if it was my kid, I would be calling that mother right up and apologizing.  I am so ticked off right now about it that I am worried if I do call, I will lose my cool.  


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I am so mad right now I could spit.   


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school yesterday afternoon and went with him to his last three classes of the day which happen to the ones he's doing the worst in.  He was mortified, mad, and I thought his head would pop off.  I think I made my point.  After school, I went with him to his English class because she asked that he stay after so she could help him catch up on his assignments.  So I sat in the back of the class while my son and his teacher worked.  And while I sat there I decided to write out some rules.


Last night my son and I sat down and talked and he said he'd do anything I asked him to do if I would please never come to his school again.  I simply said that depends on you and we left it at that.  I grounded him indefinitely - until I get some good reports back from his teachers.  No TV, no video games, no friends over, or telephone.


I don't know what will happen, but I have to say I feel pretty good just by taking control of the situation and going to his school.  A couple of weeks ago I was saying "what am I supposed to do, go to school and follow him around??!?"  And now I know that answer is yes, if that's what I have to do.  I feel less stressed. 


Thanks to everyone!


packing tips for the 14yo and Today (sm)
If you're not already gone...

My daughter went to NY with a high school tour a couple summers ago. They went to the Today show and Dave Price stole her basketball!! It was some promotion they were doing where some of the crowd was given a basketball. He wanted to use it for his segment, grabbed it from her, and never gave it back!!

I did see her on TV, but she didn't look her happy self. Poor thing!

It was funny because even though we live in Florida, we had the NY feed when Dave Price was on a local NY channel and she just LOVED him. But after he stole her basketball, she was not as fond. LOL.

Oh, and the packing. Quick, fast, easy, and it keeps clothes in somewhat good condition is to roll them tight. It's easy for kids to do, especially impatient, busy teens.

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parenting class . . .
My husband and I recently took on Love and Logic classes. I am the type of person that is always looking to improve on things, though, so I don't have a problem with it. What's wrong with being a better parent?
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My, you let her down on a large part of parenting.
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Is it fair to attack her parenting?
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But wait, is her mom still putting out that Christian book about parenting? LOL
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OR better yet.......

How to Turn Your White Trash into Millions!

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Losing a child
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Losing friends
When I lost my first one (my cat BB) I tried to keep him hanging on as long as possible but when I talked to him about it he let me know he wanted me to let him go and I held him when I took him to the vet and he purred the whole time.  He knew he didn't have to suffer any more. The really hard stuff only lasts for 3 days, then you feel better every day.  It's lots easier after you get the ashes back, you feel like they're home.  On my hearth I have 4 late cats, 1 late husband, 1 late brother-in-law and my late mother.  I never really feel like they're gone.  I feel for you, hang in there. 
I'm sorry you're losing him too. (sm)
Maybe he and Sasha will play together over the bridge. So far she is eating well and keeping her weight on, so perhaps we have a little more time. She's so precious.
have same problem after almost losing my
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Need advice on a good, adjustable chair for typing. Any advice? nm
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I guess you know because it is not your fingers you are losing, NM
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Is she losing weight or having frequent
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Losing your sex drive with menopause is
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the world isn't losing freedom of speech...
Just the Christians! Talk about anything except God, Jesus, Church, etc., and we're gonna pay and pay dearly for it, I am afraid!
Focus on getting healthy, not on losing weight
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A few years later, I had some GI problems and started losing inches and a bit of weight, but not much weight. I lost the muscle as I had already burned off the fat. I dropped only 5 lbs, but went from size 12 to a size 8. I was anorectic. I'm back up again. ugh.

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so sorry, losing a pet rips a part of my heart out
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Agree with losing tail. An old cat just tends to walk around, not much jumping or
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Read the papers, duh! People are losing their homes
for getting into this stuff.

Goes to show, you aren't that smart. Money in bank getting interest only. Come on lady, what planet do you live on? You are full of it. You are depending on the two most unstable things in the world right now. Talk about planning.
Crickets, airports (not planes), spiders, losing my kids...

My chiropractor said his plastic surgeon friends are losing their practices.
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Listen to me just gush!  Sorry about that.


Needed nt
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Thank you so much...I needed that. nm
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I needed this

I read this today and loved it:  If winter comes, can spring be far behind? 


 


Thank you!! That is EXACTLY what I needed to know sm
I have 2 dogs, one who is VERY furry and I was concerned about dog hair cloggage.

Thanks for taking the time with all the great info :-)
Yes, he needed to go.
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You may not believe this and probably will not but thought you needed some help the other day
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Thanks so much to you all. I KNEW I needed help! :-)
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FOOD IS NEEDED!
I volunteer at a food cupboard twice a month. Today I went in to fill requests for families in need, and the shelves of our little interfaith cupboard were nearly empty. It was a struggle to get together some basic items for four families.

This is a problem with food cupboards all over the country. At holiday times, food drives are held and shelves are full. Even during the school year, more donations come in as school and youth groups run food drives to help those in need. But during summer, donations slow to a trickle as people are busy with summertime activities or away on vacation. Food drives are forgotten, but people still need your help.

If you can, please consider donating to your local food cupboard. Anything you can give would be appreciated. Even a couple boxes of cereal or a jar of peanut butter can make a difference!
Thanks again so much..I needed to hear this.

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OMG! Thanks for that. Needed the laugh!!!
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Thank you so much for your kindness. It's just what I needed sm
right now. I've never been one to have the "victim mentality" although I can see how my post probably came off that way. They never gave me a chance from the start so you hit it right on when you called it a tribe mentality. I think a lot of it is jealousy - as my mom points out - I had that a lot growing up because I tend to get along with everyone - not a jealous bone in my body - and I can tend to irritate those who "don't like everyone" or who have sour attitudes.

When the poster said that she found it hard to believe that all 3 hate me for NO REASON I didn't want to respond because they do hate me for no reason. If you were to ask them why they don't like me or want me around their answer is, "just because I don't."

Anyways, your post was very kind and I am thankful for it. God bless you!
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No electric needed.

If they sleep together, they dont need electric heat, body heat will be enough. I would build a "cave" of strawbales, toss in some loose straw and there ya go. I wouldnt use blankies as if they get wet, they will freeze. Like lying on an ice cubes  Mostly, dogs just need to be out of.the wind.  If they dont sleep together, just build 2 caves.  Either way, should be snug so body heat will build a pocket of warmth around dog.


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I definitely needed him a few weeks ago.
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Thanks for the site! Just what we needed! (nm)