SIGN THE NO PADDLING....
Posted By: sm on 2007-12-10
In Reply to: What would you do? School trouble. - concerned mama MT
figures, it would be Texas paddling the children......no offense to our posters from Texas......I just somehow knew upon reading further down the page that it was going to be TEXAS paddling children still in the 21st Century. Give me a break......
Nobody can whack my kid, except me....*lol*
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I would sign the "no paddling" slip (sm)
I don't punish my children by spanking and they are generally very good kids and do what they are supposed to do. When they do slip up and do something wrong, there are plenty of punishments that don't include hitting them. In general, the children I see whose parents spank them are less well behaved than those who are not spanked. I know someone who punishes her children harshly in my opinion - and they are very good as long as she is around or if they think she can find out what they have done wrong - but if they see a chance to be bad they jump at it. I do think it is an archaic type of punishment and has no place in the world. I say let her do ISS and maybe think of a punishment at home if it keeps happening, like grounding her from a privelege she enjoys or something like that. No hitting!
Paddling
I most definitely would not sign a permission slip to let somebody hit my child. I don't hit my child and obviously from what you wrote, it is not a very effective punishment. I bet the school could come up with some real killer punishments, like having the kids do clean up around the school grounds or bathrooms! Now that would shut up my little chatty-cathy. Speaking of whom, she told me today she would rather be in school than not be in school, she loves it there, but unfortunately she has no inclination to get a job, I guess she'll be one of those people who go to school as a career!
Paddling
Both of my children, a son (age 32) and a daughter (age 26) went to a Christian academy their whole school career. My daughter going on to a Christian college. They were both paddled in school. I knew this ahead of time when I signed the papers for them to go to school. They were given demerits for things such as lying and cheating, disrespect of a teacher or anyone in authority. They were given a chance to work off demerits (going a week without any, cleaning). When 10 demerits were accrued the principal gave them 3 swats, not a beating. Both of my children are well-rounded and respectful adults. My son owns his own business, is married and has a daughter (who, yes gets a spanking now and then). My daughter is a Christian school teacher. I can count on one hand how many times my children were paddled in school. It deterred them greatly from being rebels. We also spanked them at home when need be. They have both told my husband and myself how grateful they are that they were reared with boundaries. If the administration of the paddling is done without anger, I see nothing wrong with it myself.
Paddling vs ISS
I would pick the in school suspension to get the tardy message across. My son, who is 11 has ADHD and for him to lose recess is the biggest thing that could happen to him for punishment. Perhaps the same principle will work with your daughter. JMO.
On paddling
As a former teacher who had one student paddled by the principal (I had to witness, but only the principal was allowed to paddle), I have to say I would NEVER do it again. It was just dehumanizing to have to stand there and watch the kid get hit. He wasn't being hurt and it was done in the office with just the principal and myself - no public humiliations. But, it was an awful feeling and I promised myself never again. I'm from the generation that was coporally punished, but I don't think it's a good idea. A swat on the bottom for a young children is okay, but paddling....
Your child's friend is correct - it stings. If done correctly, the child is asked to bend over from a standing position and place his hands on his knees. This leaves the buttocks available as an easy target and prevents the child from contracting the buttocks, which takes the sting out. It does not leave bruises if it is done with a thick wooden paddle and usually about 5 swats is it.
I'm sorry to hear this, but as you say, she knew there would be consequences to infractions. Tell her to wear her heaviest jeans and an extra pair of undies.
I would choose the ISS because the paddling is ineffective.
If all the kids are choosing swatting, obviously, they see it as the lesser punishment. Your daughter is very concerned about school, and you described her as a type A personality. So now here's the opportunity to teach her to put things in perspective.
I think ISS is a more appropriate punishment. She was wasting class time by being late to class. I think 5 tardies is substantial. By age 14, she should be able to get herself to class on time and start building up some self-control when it comes to the chit-chat. So, since she wasted time, she should have to pay time back. That comes at the expense of the class she is so concerned about. A lower grade may indeed be the lesser consequence, but is she going to fail out of school and never get into college and end up homeless on the street because of the lower grade in one class at age 14? No. Certainly not!
As a parent, you need to look at things long-term, because kids can't. You also need to steel yourself for the major melt down she will probably have if you don't permit the swatting. This, I think, is the hardest part of the entire learning experience for most moms. Some moms fall all to pieces in these situations. And don't flame me, but from what I've observed, it seems to happen more with mothers and daughters, especially if there's an element of "everyone-else-is-doing-it".
So look down life's road for your daughter, get your nerve together, and tell her the ISS is the better choice. When she falls to pieces, don't play into it. In the end, it will be worth it. The ISS will be the deterrent that will work for your type A daughter in the future. The paddle can never have that sort of influence over her.
Paddling v in school suspension
I would never sign a paddling allowed slip. If I were not there, what would the person doing the paddling be like? Your daughter says everyone else is because it does not hurt. What if they change the person and it is way too much? Besides, to me 14 years old is too old for a spanking. Taking away school time in the inschool suspension is better I believe. I remember how everyone hated detention in my days, and had to sit there with the troublemakers, and do extra work. It was really embarrassing! I say do what your heart tells you, not what your daughter tells you. You are the parent! If your heart says there is reasonable doubt there is something wrong with paddling go with that IMO. My best to you! 
a single paddling at school is different
from a parent keeping a paddle at home during the summer. I'm wondering why you need to go on and on about this.
My past is my past. I believe each parent has the right to raise their children in a manner that suites each family. My hope is that physical punishment is limited, but there are other methods of physical punishment other than paddling which can do worse harm to a child. Even verbal abuse can be worse.
Thank you for your sympathy for the decisions my parents made, but those things are in the past. BTW, I don't let people get close before of emotional manipulations by people in my adult life and not having learned how to stand up for myself when I was a child. Now I have learned those leasons and just use more caution about whom I take into my confidence. I'm not as screwed up as I feel you are trying to intimate :)
I agree, paddling is barbaric and, according to your daughter, is ineffective
Even she would rather have it than ISS, thusly restriction of freedom is a greater punishment than pain. I am with you, I don't know why this is still in effect. I also live in the south and have to write a letter every year stating my child is not allowed to be paddled. Believe me he would MUCH rather be paddled than have the Xbox Live and TV taken away from him!!!
Paddling is child abuse. Even Florida doesn't allow it.
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Turns out there might be some connection between your astrological sign and propensity for getting into an accident! Fascinating.
By the way, Leo's rule!!!
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Used to have a PINK PIG sign
with our name on it. Two pink piggies holding our name by our mailbox and someone STOLE IT. Can you imagine. My sister gave it to us as a gift. Had to put it outside to show her how much we loved it. Were not sorry to see it go though.
You sign yourself as friend, ok if so
then you totally respect your friend's wishes. You do not go by unannounced. Has she said she did not want company? You do not intrude, yes that is what it is by just happening to take something by as another post said to get a glimpse. I had a child who had clubbed feet (not Downs at all like the other said might be), did not even notice but my mother brought it up to me and he is now 40ish and fine, just wore the splints. As far as not answering the phone when husband is home, I try not to make appointments to leave when mine is here, I just love spending the time I can with him. I don’t see mine each and every day so nothing wrong with that or the telephone thing. We are all separate individuals. I would guarantee if you showed up at my home uninvited and as a surprise, I would be offended and you would not get in especially after she has said no visitors! Where as you might have wanted company after birthing, your friend has told you. Why would you do anything less than honor her wishes? Be a real friend.
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Sign language.
I don't have deaf dogs, although I would in a heartbeat without question. However, I have two dogs and I train them with voice and with hand motions as well. Its amazing how much they knew with hand motions before I even trained them because I make those motions subconsciously when giving them my commands. I did this for their safety in public situations and because one is in search and rescue and its easier and sometimes good to have them not only paying attention to you but also to be able to communicate in silence depending on the situation. it also helps because should someone else try to control your dog, they would have to know the signs, much like teaching a dog commands in another language. Its pretty cool stuff really. They pick up movement far faster and with seemingly greater intelligence than the sound of whatever word you are giving. I am amazed everyday at how intelligent my dogs can be. ;)
Take it as a sign of things to come...
but don't make a big deal out of it with either of them or hold a grudge. He will probably treat your daughter just as badly if/when they are married, but she has to figure that out for herself. If you need something done, just pretend she doesn't have a boyfriend at all, and get things done on your own henceforth...and don't give them POA when you are old!
Got hit from behind at a stop sign
Got out of the car and went back to see that the car that hit me had lo more damage than mine. Went up to the car and nobody would roll down a window, three guys all on their cellphones (at that time anyway) so I stood there, got out my cellphone and called the police. Tapped on the window then and found out none of them spoke English. Told them in English not to move. The police came and went back to them, came to my car and said they were all illegal immigrants, was not their car, driver didn't even have a license and was driving a "friend's car." AND of course, no insurance. His pen was flying as he was writing up those tickets in his car and as I pulled out I saw squad cars surrounding the car and I bet INH was on their way too. Didn't feel one bit bad but sure would have if I had damage to my car.
She needs a doc with a sign over his door that sez -
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universal sign
Oh you've read my mind!! Sooo many times I've wished I had a little sign, like a piece of cut poster board taped to a popsicle stick, that I could hold up that says "OMG I'M SO SORRY!!" or "I'M SORRY, MY BAD!" or "I'M SORRY, PLEASE EXCUSE ME!"!!
I made a sign and hung up (sm)
It was just construction paper; one side was red, the other green. The red side had a simple smiley face with closed eyes and a headset on, the word 'STOP' in big letters, and 'mommy's working' below it. The green side had a smiley face with open eyes, no headset, and the word GO, and 'mommy can stop to talk' on it. I put it on a string and hung it on a tack so all I had to do was reach up and flip it back and forth.
I did it as much for me as for them. I was fussing at them sometimes, when they had no way to know if I was merely checking email or working, and I felt bad. So when they see the red sign, they know somebody better be bleeding if they interrupt me! (j/k!) It actually worked pretty well, even before the youngest could read, because he knew which color was "go" and which one was "stop."
We have a bowl in the kitchen for "free snacks" and I try to keep it filled with apples, raisins, bags of goldfish crackers, and the like, and keep juice boxes and popsicles ready to hand in the fridge. I also try to either buy paper cups or make sure the dishes are kept up so they can get water as needed. Most interruptions tended to center around wanting a snack, so it takes a lot of stress of all of us if they know what they can have w/o asking.
Exercise with him or sign him for karate or something like that. Needs to do
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Put up a Squirrel Crossing sign?
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One way to keep the squirrels from burying their nuts hither and yon is to give them shelled nuts. I notice they will eat those instead of burying them.
Twice a year I announce it's Kamikaze squirrel season. I think it happens once when the babies are new out of the next and they are completely brainless about cars, and the other is when the tree nuts ripen and the squirrels are blind to everything except finding more places to bury their nuts.
If you like chipmunks too, try putting out a feeder for them with rape seeds (white seeds - cannola seeds, I believe). I think chippers are afraid of squirrels, so put it in a different area. Squirrels won't touch the white seeds, so the chippers are safe to eat them.
A local restaurant had on its sign outside
AYCE DailEy specials...it was there for a while, but someone finally got smart and changed it. This is a pet peeve of mine, too. It drives my husband crazy at times when I start pointing out all the mistakes I see. I saw one on some papers from school, but I can't remember what it was...but from SCHOOL...hello???
When the dishwasher sign says dirty
and there is room in it and everyone still stacks their dishes in the sink!!!!
Four-way stop sign - what is the rule? sm
Every day when I take my son to school I have to stop at a 4-way stop....some days when in my opinion it is my turn, someone pulls out in front of me! It drives me crazy!! What is the rule? I should probably know this but I don't! Thanks
oops...'ARE' the first sign...n/m
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personally I would sign that ban in a heart beat! sm
Having to breathe in someone elses disgusting smoke is sickening. It IS an addiction, as pointed out by someone else, but so is alcohol, also brought up by someone else. and yes, they should be doing more about that, as well. *They* should be doing a lot of things about a lot of things to change the way this world is headed...but then there is the saying *be the change you want to see in this world.*
they have some system now that they can sign up for to track who views sm
their myspace. not sure how it works because i didn't sign up for it, but i see it posted all the time. i view my daughter's friends sites all the time. noone has said anything to me yet about it, but i do communicate with a lot of them on there as they are friends and any friends of my children are friends with me as well. they know i wouldn't going ratting off on them unless it was something majorly in the wrong.
A big sign at a local business that had moved said
Come see us at ARE new location - on both sides of the sign!
Sign me up, too! (Does the Heathen Board accept
If so, count me in.
Is there an age limit on being able to sign up?? I might have missed my chance. LOL
Sorry couldn't resist. I'll never be too old to think that sounds wrong 
Anyone that is a member of AAA ever sign up for the cellular plan using
Consumer Cellular with them that can tell me how they like it.
I still occasionally search for the cent sign
on the keyboard. I can't figure out why they got rid of it. Does anybody really need the ~ sign for English? Bring back the cent sign. :o>
or people who do not or cannot read the sign YIELD.
They are nuts here in NJ. I hate to drive. Thank goodness I work at home. The drivers here are CRAZY.
oh yeah, sign me up for my two drunken brothers
After what happened at last years' Christmas party, count me out! The drunker they got, the funnier it was to point out all of the ways I'm a failure: No money, raising my kid by myself, rusty car .... the list went on. Nothing better than driving home crying on Xmas Eve. No thank you very much to that again, which I have made very clear.
is this the 5th of 6th sign of the apocalyse this week? Im lost.
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Or stand there with a sign *drinks on the blouse* - I mean house.....!? LOL
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Humping in dogs is more a sign of dominance than sexual
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Our local ice cream stand never did change their sign
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Classic sign of an abusive is a very , very fast romance - sm
leading to marriage, which it appears you have done. He has successfully isolated you from your family and controls everything you do. He is deciding where you live, what "he" wants to do, work, etc. You don't mentions kids, and I hope you don't have any, but if you do you need to take back some control if you intend to stay in this one-sided marriage. Sounds like you have no say/input at all, it is his way or no way. My DH gives me grief when I visit my family, as do my in-laws, I go anyway. He doesn't like it but he cannot stop me from going. He knows better than to try. He will make my life living hell until I leave, trying to get to stay, but I think only one time did I give in and not go, and boy was I mad at him for quite some time (and myself for giving in). My DH is very passive-aggressive but most of the time I ignore him but other times he gets me all worked up ready to kill him and then he is fine, and I am all mad. Drives me crazy. But after 12 years of this I have learned not to take the bait so much, and have seriously though of kicking him out, though he's refuse to leave as it "is his house" (it is in his name only but we bought it 10 years ago while we were married, so it is every bit mine as his). So if you get to the point when you are sick of his controlling ways, go see a lawyer. I plan to soon myself just to see where I would stand in the event of a divorce. We both have our faults in my marriage and I think it is smart thing to find out what could or could not happen in the event of a divorce. You might want to see what your rights are too, cannot hurt. As for your sister coming, just say, Mary is coming to visit and tough cookies if this bothers you. She has never been here before and I want to see my sister and niece and if you don't like it make yourself scarce while they are here. ---Good luck.
Having a tantrum while hiding behind a nickname is not a sign of maturity. nm
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Please see link inside to sign petition Take Back the Memorial.
see link below....
Anyone sign up and use The Biggest Loser weight loss plan? I am
rapidly adding on pounds sitting here most of the day, but don't have a gym nearby and cant afford to be on the road for an hour 1-way to get to the closest one. Am sliding down the slope to obesity real quick. Does the information help you? Is it worth the $$? Can this be done without an exercise buddy?
Any replies would help - positive, negative, suggested alternative web-based programs.
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This is a REAL contract a bride asked her bridesmaids to sign...
*Bridesmaid’s Contract*
Hello my beautiful bridesmaids! Let me just say again how happy I am that you are going to be a part of my special day! Below are just a few guidelines for the wedding that I’d like you to review, please initial by each point, sign at the end and send back to me. Just want to make sure they’re aren’t any surprises! The planning bride is a happy bride!
Thanks a bunch! Love ya!
-The Bride-To-Be
______ My hair will remain at the length it is now or longer.
______ I will not change my hair color without first consulting BRIDE and providing a sample photo or hair swatch for consideration.
______ I will use Sally Hansen’s “Maximum Growth-Daily Nail Growth program” every day for the 4 months before the wedding day.
______ I will not gain more than 4lbs from the weight I was when I was asked to be a bridesmaid.
(Sarah and Anne only for the point below…)
______ I will join a well-known weight loss program and through whatever means necessary will lose the desired amount of weight as previously discussed with BRIDE at the time when asked to be a bridesmaid in her wedding.
______ I swear to attend all showers, (lingerie, kitchen, bridal & bachelorette) to arrive in a timely manner and do everything in my power to support and “be there” for the bride.
______ I will purchase the DESIGNER style # 464 dress below in Pistachio/Ivory within 3 weeks of today.
______ I will NOT knowingly get pregnant without notifying BRIDE at least 6 months prior to the wedding so a suitable alternate can be found. I will also give my purchased bridesmaid dress to said alternate.
I do hereby swear that I will adhere to all of the above & other understood bridesmaid duties for the wedding on DATE, 2008
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(sign, print and date)
lol, I was laughing so hard, I thought the sign read MT DEPTARTMENT!
Still funny though! lol
In our town, the Chinese restaurant has a painted sign on window: Hot Wing sold here. nm
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Dying girl denied more time with imprisoned father - please sign the petition (sm)
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Have-Mercy-on-Jayci
This child is 10 years old - this is national news, not a hoax of any kind. This child was healthy six months ago and now has very limited time to live. Her father is imprisoned and her dying wish is to spend more time with him - which is being denied. Please go to the above website and sign the petition asking the Nebraska prison system to honor her request.
Leave a big sign on her nightstand, tough situation! Some are thiefs, offer a reward!
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