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Said the woman who is dating an indicted felon!

Posted By: Inside Source on 2008-02-11
In Reply to: She is my new hero. sm - Natalie Cole says..

Natalie Cole has a lot of nerve talking trash about other people when she herself is involved in a relationship with a con man who is currently under four felony indictments!



 




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I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female!  If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male.  What about you?
woman to woman talk sm

This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT!  Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.


 


 


 


 


 


 


Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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Dating
I am married and have been for years, so I don't have much insight into dating anymore, but I would be leary of dating at work, just because if it does not work out, it could be uncomfortable, but other than that aspect of it, have fun and don't be shy. 
dating
What bothers me is that you say you recently came out of a long marriage/relationship. I speak from experience when I say it is NOT wise to jump right into something else - take time for yourself and your kids for awhile. JMO
She is dating him.....
not marrying him.
Online dating... Have you tried it?
I'm thinking about trying this.  What are your experiences?  Which ones are the best dating sites?  Thanks! 
Online dating
Yes, found my husband on Match.Com, dated two years and have been married for 1 1/2 years now.  I was very lucky to have found a good honest man.  We are in our sixties.
The dating game.

I hate it and that's why I continue to be single and loving it.  Knowing the simplistic mind and approach of men to relationships, think of it this way (just to put it bluntly).  They are like boys with new toys.  If they play too much with the toy, sooner or later, they will set it aside and forget about it.  As far as "games," yes dating is a game, a "cat and mouse" game.  The cat enjoys inmensely chasing after the mouse.  You have to "dangle the catnip" for the cat and let him work for it.  If the mouse does the chasing, then it is not fun for the cat.  Many men have the same thing in mind while dating "hit and run" (if you know what I mean), as in "why buy the cow, when you have tasted the milk."  You have to let him do the chasing.  When a woman goes too much after a man, he just sits in his all mighty throne knowing that he doesn't have to do anything, but wait for you to come to him to tell him how much you need him.  If he really has any real true intentions, he will call you or write to you wondering what you have been up to.  There is nothing worse for a man that not to know what a woman is thinking.


When my hubby and I were dating we
went to a Halloween party and he spent the entire afternoon before the party dipping his hand in wax so it would have layer after layer of wax and look like a dead hand. Then he put on an oversized overcoat, wrapped his head in ACE bandage and wore sunglasses and a hat and really huge moon boots...(this was in the 80's mind you). Then when he got to the party he realized that he forgot to leave a hole open for his mouth so we had to cut one out so he could breathe, eat and talk. It was hilarious. No one knew who he was. It was funny....
Believe it or not a Dating Service
I was sick of meeting losers so I decided to take the chance. We were engaged after three months and married nine months later and will be married for 17 years in September. The first time he introduced me to his friends a week or so later, they told him we were going to get married.
Dating Service
I was tired of not being able to meet anyone. I actually got matched with a lot of great guys, but no one struck me as "the one" until I met my now husband. We talked for about 5 hours at the restaurant our first date and saw each other every day after that. We were engaged after a month and got married a year later. Now almost 18 years late we have to great daughters 15 and 5.
cougar dating
http://www.futurescopes.com/age-gap-dating/681/cougar-dating-tips-older-women-dating-younger-men
Met through a dating service
I was sick of not being able to find anyone decent. I say it was fate, because he said he hated answering machines so when he called me the first time, and I wasn't home, he could have said forget it, but he decided to give me one more call and I was home that time. If he gave up the first time I never would have met him. We dated for one month, got engaged and married a year later. It will be 18 years this September.
Dating's easier said that done
I miss dating. For me, there's a satisfaction or companionship that I get from a male partner that I don't get from work or family. Unfortunately, living where I do and working like I do, I'm not really coming across a lot of available ones. With my children's blessing, I've done internet dating, but the last couple of times have turned out very very badly. There aren't a lot of social venues where I am so I'm out of luck there. The one guy I dated told me that a single employed 'mature' woman, I was a bit of a commodity as there has been an exodus out of the rural areas, but that has not translated into my dance card being filled. Oh, well. I probably shouldn't let myself be distracted from work anyway. But, gosh, I miss a deep male voice asking me how I'm doing.
single-parent dating (sm)
I'm not sure that the length of time you have been dating is really relevant as other posters mentioned. If you feel you need to have the relationship defined, it should be and when it is, you need to decide what to do next.

It is SO hard to date when you have a child, especially a daughter that you want to raise with good morals and self esteem. In order to build a good relationship and be sure the guy likes your kid, you have to invest time and expose the child(ren) to him. If he's not *the one* then you have to repeat the process, thereby exposing you kids to men, attachments, and as far as I'm concerned, confusion on the part of the kids.

I came to this conclusion shortly after my ex and I split when my daughter was 5. I dated one guy, we broke up, and didn't date again until she was out of high school.

I also identified with a line in Jerry MacGuire; words to the effect that spending time with my kid was more fun and fulfilling than any frog or potential prince.

It's my opinion and only my opinion that we had our lives, made our decisions, had our fun, made our mistakes, brought kids into the world and they should be our focus. It's hard to focus and give full attention to a child when there is guy anxiety.

I know many have done it and have been extremely successful with merging families and doing the step-dad/mom thing. I just didn't think it was fair to gamble with my child's future... things don't always happen in real life like they do in movies...

All of this was probably of no help, but I sincerely think you do need to stop and think what is going to give you peace of mind, not necessarily happiness or instant gratification, and know that whatever does give you peace of mind will benefit your child.

Good luck, sweetie! :-)
Interracial dating views
Do you think most people still have a bad opinion of interracial dating and should that matter anyway?
I'm dating a man 18 years older. If you like him, go for it! :)
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try specialty dating websites
I met my husband 4 years ago through an online dating site that catered to people of our religion. I think these specialty dating sites where you already have something in common have a higher success rate. You can find sites for pet lovers or cowboys... lots of different ones out there.
More info? Do you mean for a couple who is dating or?? (sm)
not sure what situation you mean?
dating someone with kids is hard
Bottom line is he SHOULD put her first, because if he didn't what kind of man would he be? My point to you is that although I understand COMPLETELY how you feel... it's just not always justified. I couldn't deal with my situation with kids so I left it. I respect him as a man for being a great dad, but having broken homes and split families is sometimes very difficult, as atested to the way the daughter acts towards you. You have to realize this is the way it's gonna be... deal with it or leave... (im not trying to say it is easy or anything... just facts you know?)
Interesting dating "survey"
Would you ever date/marry.....



someone who is less educated than yourself?

YES, DID SO, HE HAS A 2-YEAR TECHNICAL DEGREE, I HAVE A 4-YEAR BA that I NEVER DID ANYTHING WITH UNFORTUNATELY. ACTUALLY I ONLY EVER DATED 1 GUY I THINK WITH A COLLEGE DEGREE AND HE ENDED UP BEING A REAL WEINIE, DID THE CLASSIC DUMP OF JUST STOPPING CALLING AFTER 3 MONTHS OF DATING FOR WHICH I DID TAKE HIM TO TASK FOR, WHAT A JERK. I WAS 21 HE WAS 25 OR SO.



someone of a different race?

PROBABLY NOT.



someone whose parent's are divorced?
YES, WHY WOULD THAT MATTER?



someone who has bad credit or alot of bad debt?

NO.


who is overweight or obese?
NO.



someone who affliates or supports a different political party than yourself?
YES, AS LONG AS YOU AGREE TO DISAGREE DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY WORK IN POLITICS.


someone who is rude to customer service staff?
NO, IF THEY ARE RUDE TO STAFF THEN HE/SHE WILL BE JUST AS RUDE TO YOU.



someone who talks a longtime on their cell phone when you are eating?
NO, WOULD NOT ESPECIALLY THRILL ME UNLESS IT IS SOMEONE THAT THEY HAVE NOT TALKED TO IN YEARS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE.


someone who enjoys a different genre of music?
YES. CAN BE ENLIGHTENING LEARNING DIFFERENT MUSIC.


someone who does not enjoy the same leisure activities as yourself?
YES, BUT THEN AGAIN THEY WOULD NEED TO AT LEAST TRY IT, AND YOU TRY WHATEVER IT IS THEY LIKE TO DO, BE IT BOWLING OR BINGO.



someone who is a very picky eater or someone who is a vegeterian/vegan and you are not?
NO, THAT WOULD BE TO AGGRAVATING.


someone who prefers to spend leisure time alone or with friends (without you)?
NO, THAT IS JUST CHILDISH, HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE THE TWO, OR ADD YOU TO THE "GROUP". EVERYONE NEEDS A NIGHT AWAY NOW AND THEN BUT NOT ALL THE TIME. WHAT IS THE POINT IN BEING TOGETHER THEN?
I was dating one of his good friends...sm
dumped the friend for DH and never looked back. That was 24 years ago.
I may be dating myself but it was David Cassidy!
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Single MTs - every just get sick of dating? sm
I have not been single that long - I am 41 and first and foremost a mom to my kids. I have been dating some though...and have found people to be so unreliable.  Last week I told off two people for their unreliability and now my phone is oh-so-quiet. I can't decide if I want my phone to be quiet or if I want the aggravation.  Right now I am voting for quiet.   What is up with people these days that they just make flippant plans and then blow them off?  It is my pet peeve to reserve my time for someone and have them cancel for some flip reason and then want to reschedule.  We all have things that happen, but I get lunch plans cancelled because, "Oh, sorry, I overslept and didn't get ready in time - can we meet for dinner instead?"  Does this happen to everyone or am I just not worthy of someone at least trying to keep their plans with me?
Dating? What's that? It's been so long I forgot.
Single, twice divorced, no kids, older than you (fifty-umph), and frankly, I'd rather be alone and gaze at my own navel than deal with the kind of stuff you talk about. Been there, done that, own the T-shirt franchise....

In my not-so-humble opinion, it's a function of society at large these days; has nothing whatsoever to do with you. My best friend and I have been observing for years that it's getting harder and harder to find people whose word is good. If their word is no good on the small stuff (lunch), then it's not going to be good on the bigger stuff. Trust me, you do NOT need THAT level of aggravation.

So see what you can do to learn to be your own best friend and company, and otherwise, cultivate the kind of people whose word is good. They may just introduce you to other people whose word is good.

And that's just my own take on the subject. Others' mileage may vary. :)
Dating? I'd rather have a root canal. -(nm)-

dating, marriage & dogs
rule #1
when you swear off men, you automatically will find the love of your life!

rule #2
marry a nerd - they are just as hot as a cowboys when the glasses come off, plus you get the added excitement of knowing your bills will be paid on time...

rule #3
there is no greater love than that of a dog who can't bear to be without you while you are in the potty. Life is short and we need all the joy we can get - Leave the bathroom door open for the little buggers!!!

AND RULE #4
get down on your knees every night and give the Lord thanks for your crazy, sweet life whether single, married, or stepping over dogs to get out of the powder room.


I personally know a guy who does that online dating stuff
He is seeing one girl seriously (or so she thinks) that lives in another state. Every chance he gets, he meets up with other local women. Bottom line is he is having sex with all of them. Friend of my husband. Isn't that nice? So...my advice, if he's still looking, you're not *the one*. Sorry but that's my opinion.
Dating question-have things changed? (sm)
Hi - I am fairly recently divorced and have been dating a man for about 5 months.  We get along very well and he is very kind to me, very complimentary, we have a great time together, he tells me he loves me...but one thing is odd to me and I am not sure if it is just his personality or if things are this much different from when I dated 15 years ago before my marriage.  We communicate by phone, text and e-mail, but I almost always have to initiate the conversations.  He always calls, texts or e-mails me back and is happy to hear from me, has long conversations with me and says wonderful things, and is happy to get together to see each other.  But unless I wait 2 or 3 days to hear from him first (which is hard for me!) he never initiates the conversations.  Have I just set it up this way and now it continues that way?  Does he not really like me as much as he says?  We talk almost every day, and when I have asked if I am contacting him too much he says, "No!  I love hearing from you.  I love looking on my phone and seeing a text from you! You're not calling too much at all."  So why doesn't he ever take the initiative?  I mean, he is kind of shy, but we've known each other 5 months now!  I've never been an aggressive type, so I guess I'm confused.  Thanks for any opinions!
Just back into the dating scene - question (sm)
I have recently gotten back into the dating scene and met a nice guy (online) who lives locally. We have emailed back and forth and he is very nice to talk to. But when I met him recently I realized there was no attraction - at all.  But he really likes me.  Would it be better for me to just say right now that I am not interested or should I keep talking to him and gradually slow down how much I talk to him?  Can I tell him I just want to be friends?  I feel like a teenager again! I don't want to hurt his feelings.
...and dating leads to...? She does not say she is not contemplating marriage. sm
In fact, I got quite the opposite impression.

Look, all I'm saying is that we have an awful lot of situations like this that turn into tragedies, when it didn't have to happen. This is a world in which we must ask ourselves the hard questions and take reasonable precautions to protect ourselves.

It's really hard for me to see how this is something that shouldn't be said, even if you and the OP don't happen to like it.
Dating sympathy (from married person)
I would hate to go back to dating. I've been married 18 years but I do remember what single life and dating were like.

The majority of them were creeps for one reason or another (especially the one going to law school - I got my first clue when I saw a sticker inside his car - his last name is also an occupation and the sticker said _________ know all the right strokes). (eye roll)

I mentioned in another post that I had moved into an apt. with my boyfriend of about a year, and 3 weeks later, he left me for his ex-wife.

At that point, I swore off of men. I figured I'd just live in the same apartment and go to work at the hospital 5 days a week for the rest of my life. That's when my husband walked into my life.

I had first met him in 1985 when, after graduating high school, I went to work at McDonald's. He was a swing manager, 2 years older and so darned handsome. We dated for quite awhile but it wasn't exclusive. He then joined the navy and got married. Three years later, his ex told him she needed to get a life and filed for divorce.

About 3 months prior to this, I swore off men for good. Then, one day, I was working a Saturday at the hospital (I think it was to make up for the day I missed when I had a diagnostic laparoscopy - yeah, it was stupid going back to work the day after you have surgery). I got a phone call from my mom, asking me if I remembered such and such. My husband's sister had called my parents' house but my mom didn't want to give out info, so she called and gave the info to me. I called his sister and we gabbed. I told her I remembered her and definitely remembered him. She asked me to meet her and her boyfriend at a bar along with my (future) husband. Well, I said "what the heck". I agreed to go.

Now, this is 3 days status post a laparoscopy and they weren't as good about getting the CO2 out back in 1990 as they are today and that day, I had gas so bad, I probably could have filled up my gas tank 3 times over. I spent almost the entire date squeezing my cheeks together (thankfully we weren't dancing or doing other physical things - LOL). I still had a really good time but was relieved when I left his house. I lived about 10 minutes away and I swear, I must have passed gas the entire ride home.

He knows all about it now. Heck, I can't remember the last time I even closed the door to the bathroom. We have no kids and if I do close the door, all 3 pugs sit outside and scratch the door, whine and cry. I gave up. I'm sometimes even "lucky" enough to have one of them on my lap while I'm going.

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is love/good relationships seem to come when you least expect them. When I pursued dating or had someone fix me up, or met a guy in a bar or whatever, it never ended well. Nowadays, how do you know if you're supposed to pay half for the date?

Like I said, I feel for you guys. If my husband dropped dead tomorrow, I think I'd remain single the rest of my life.

Good luck to all of you and God bless!



How do you feel about older women dating younger men (sm)
As in, he is 9 years younger (29).  Have never done this before but we really get along well.
If he wasn't like that while you were dating, he ain't gonna change now. Maybe some couples th
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Talk about dating yourself? I remember selling them for 0.75 cents! (nm)
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I personally know 4 people who met and married via dating websites - sm
I was shocked at first when a good friend of mine in her 30s said she had met the most fantastic man on eharmony and was VERY skeptical, but I met him and he is very nice.  They have been married 6 years now and baby 2 is on the way.  Two of my husband's friends from work met women this way and both are now happily married from what we can tell.  Lastly, my husbands 47yo cousin has met a man she is very serious about.  They are flying back and forth from CA to NY every few weeks to spend time together.  Maybe it does not work for everyone and there probably are some real losers there too, but I have seen firsthand that it can work.  Just something to think about.  Best wishes whatever route you take! 
Sounds good! I can tell you that these dating sites do not work. I have never seen so many needy
men on them.  I wont meet anyone without talking to them first by phone and believe me when I tell you they all have their stories as to why they are broke, why they have been married 5 times, why they are still raising kids at 60 years old, etc.  What you suggested sounds good.  I have a few lifelong male friends that I usually always go places with so I never really had an opportunity to meet other new people when I go out and about so I plan to start doing more things on my own.  I really  dont mind doing that.  It may be fun actually.  Appreciate all your ideas!
When I realized while dating what lousy taste he had, I started buying my own gifts. Been doing it
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No, definitely not -- if this had been a woman - sm
asking you the same question would you have thought twice about it? He was a rep of the store asking if you found what you were looking for, since it happened to be a bra, I think he phrased it correctly, but then again he did not take into account a person who would take a question the wrong way. He has learned the hard way never to question a lady about her underwear that is for sure. You need to learn to let things roll off your back. If he had leered at you and said, hey lady you find a bra for those nice **** of yours, then yeah, that would be harrassment and not good customer service. Learn to chill some and not worry so much.
I know of a woman who actually did this
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what do you get for the woman who has everything?...sm

Spend some time together.


Give each little young lady a handmade card/voucher that she can cash in to spend time with you one-on-one, whether it be at the hair salon, lunch, walking in the park, just doing regular shopping stuff, going to a play or just sitting, talking, having a cup of tea and looking through family albums....It's the special time that'll be cherished. 


Oh, and 50-ish is not old.....I know 70 to 85-yo young ladies who can run circles around me with their enthusiasm, drive, ambition and joy for life.   Cat 


   


did you NOT see that 95 y/o woman who

graduated college last year?  She was all over the news, GOD BLESS HER!!  Had all her wits about her......just old looking is all....


Education doesn't stop until we die - so by all means 40+ is still young in that many change career directions many times in ones' life...



another woman
Does his name rhyme with Boo by any chance? This brought back memories from 16 years ago. Same situation. I found out I was not the only one and that he had been seeing someone else for years and when she and I "met", she told me he owed everybody money. I did get mine back by personal check in a very nice (what a joke) card, wishing me well. I loved him - couldn't deal with the other woman thing, so let her have him. Glad I did - I would have been miserable with him. Good Luck - watch your purse!!
wonder woman
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then you should definitely let the PTA woman have him
and after he's with her instead of you, make sure to send a thank you card
Do you believe what this woman says?

That an employee told her to use the MRI machine at the zoo?


When a 5-foot, 275-pound woman found out she had a tumor on her spine, she was told by her local hospital to go the zoo to have a MRI because a regular MRI machine could not hold her weight, myfoxkc.com reported.


Carolyn Ragan told the television station she discovered the tumor two years ago and, after the hospital told her she could not use their MRI machine, a medical assistant said he would help her find a solution.


“So he suggested the Kansas City Zoo,” Ragan said. “I thought, I know I’m big, but I’m not as big as an elephant. And my husband got mad.”


The University of Kansas Hospital would not comment on Ragan’s claim, but said its MRI department does not know of any animal MRI in the Kansas City area that would scan a human.


Ragan’s problem was two-fold: She was too heavy for the table and too wide to slide through the opening.


Medical Imaging in Kansas City North, which has both closed and open MRI machines can typically hold up to 440 pounds, but sometimes a person who weighs less can still be out of luck, according to an MRI technician.


“It depends on how they are built a lot of times and what part of their body we’re scanning,” said technician Sarah Abbott of Medical Imaging. “(The machine) can only be so open before the magnetic field dissipates into the room.”


Ragan, who ended up having two surgeries and some paralysis, said she finally found an open MRI machine that held her weight, but it was embarrassing and frustrating.


“They should have machines that fit most everybody,” she said.


A Woman Should Have... sm










BEST POEM EVER


A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ....

by Maya Angelou

enough money within her control to move out
and rent a place of her own,
even if she never wants to or needs to...
something perfect to wear if the employer,
or date of her dreams wants to see her in an hour...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ..


a youth she's content to leave behind....
a past juicy enough that she's looking forward to
retelling it in her old age....
a set of screwdrivers, a cordless drill, and a black lace bra...
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ne friend who always makes her laugh... and one who lets her cry...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE .......


a good piece of furniture not previously owned by anyone else in her family...
eight matching plates, wine glasses with stems,
and a recipe for a meal,
that will make her guests feel honored...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ..


a feeling of control over her destiny...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...  


 
how to fall in love without losing herself...
how to quit a job,
break up with a lover,
and confront a friend without
ruining the friendship....


EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW....


when to try harder... and WHEN TO WALK AWAY...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


that she can't change the length of her calves,
the width of her hips, or the nature of her parents..
that her childhood may not have been perfect...but it's over...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


what she would and wouldn't do for love or more...
how to live alone... even if she doesn't like it...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.. .


whom she can trust,
whom she can't,
and why she shouldn't take it personally....



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


where to go...
be it to her best friend's kitchen table..
or a charming Inn in the woods...
when her soul needs soothing...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


What she can and can't accomplish in a day...
a month...and a year...


AND REMEMBER:

GIRL FRIENDS ARE LIKE STARS.

YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THEM,

BUT YOU ALWAYS KNOW THEY ARE THERE!!!!!!


 


A single woman
What you're feeling is perfectly normal. Please do not rush into a relationship with any man at this point. Enjoy this time and spend it getting to know your children better and just spending time with them. Also get to know yourself and feel comfortable with who you are - develop some hobbies and interests. If you've spent the last 2 decades in this kind of relationship, you haven't had much time to spend on yourself. Soak in a hot tub every night if you want to.

In a sense, you've just cut a huge wart off your foot and of course it's going to feel strange and unfamiliar. It was the wart that was strange, now things are normal. It just feels strange because you aren't used to it.

Hope some of this makes sense. If you think about it, I bet you are actually less lonely now than when he was there. Some of the loneliest people I know are in marriages and relationships. Some of the happiest and most joy-filled people I know are on their own.


I should have been a repair woman.

My kids were out of clothes.  Yes, I'm behind on laundry.  So I wash some stuff, toss it in the dryer and I hear something going "ping" and it won't turn on.  I just pulled it completely apart, put it back together and it's working.  Yeah me!  A screw had come out and fallen down inside of it.  I can't believe how full of lint the inside was too.    I do, however, have 6 extra screws that should be in there somewhere lol.


Yes, a woman can pass it to a man, it is just like any other STD.
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