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I don't know how you can take off for weeks at a time with all your close relatives and go to Aruba

Posted By: My take on 2005-07-05
In Reply to: I never heard they had money - Cat lover

and not be wealthy.  Could you?  Indefinitely?  You and your husband?  And her husband said they may buy a house there if necessary because the mother is not going home w/o Natalee.  So assuming that resort island property is not cheap, they can afford to buy a house in Aruba?   Can you?


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    Aruba
    Yes, she is an American, but she is an American missing in a foreign country. Just as we have to abide by the rules of another country's government, when in that country, the same holds true here.
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    perhaps you should go to Aruba and help with the investigation (nm)

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    toxic friends/relatives--ADMINISTRATOR PLEASE EXPLAIN
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    Any thoughts on the case in Aruba?

    Little by little they are losing ground.  Commentator was saying that even if the last person to see her alive was Joran, the 17-year-old still in jail, they can't prove anything.  Maybe they fell asleep on the beach and when he woke she was gone.  Commentator said that if after all this time they could not break a 17-year-old and get a confession, with his two friends and father in jail, there is a possibility that he did not do it. 


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    Missing girl in Aruba
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    I was just in Aruba -very nice island

    Aruba is just like any other tourist destination where as long as you stay in the tourist areas, do not wonder off into the downtown areas at night and practice basic street-smarts, then there is no need for alarm and it is just as safe as any other place. I went to Aruba last month and we had a nice stay but I also went there years ago when I was about 16 w/my friend and her family. Of course we drank our little hearts out but we stayed in the hotel area and never wandered off. I will admit that we were harrassed by locals a bit (and I think it was because we were so young) but we ignored them and ALWAYS stayed together- we used our street smarts!!


    It sounds as tho this young girl did not have as much street smarts as you or I.  I would never  leave with guys I just met by myself even if I were at a bar in my hometown area, nevermind in another country! It is common sense but unfortunately this young girl didn't know any better, or for whatever reason maybe she thought that she was safe with these boys and she probably thought they were just regular kids just like her & her friends. It is very sad that she possibly had to pay the ultimate price for what she thought was just an innocent mistake.


    We as parents try to protect our children from so much, but at the same time, I think sometimes we are so focused on keeping the evil of the world out, that we possibly make our children more vulnerable.


    So you are educated in the laws of Aruba? Wow.
    I sound like I have lack of knowledge about this case, as does Mrs. Twitty.  So, I guess me and Mrs. Twitty should look to you for explanations and answers as to where her daughter is and what happened to her?  Do you have some inside info the rest of the world is not privy to?  I'm just wondering because if not, you are blowing a lot of hot air around and basically just about as uneducated about the laws and the evidence surrounding this case as the rest of us.
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    Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
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    Aruba is not as well equipped to handle this situation (sm)

    as the U.S. is...so therefore, if they are in over their heads, THEY should ask for the U.S. to help, period! That is a resort country, equipped basically to show tourists a good time, and not to handle a missing American case! See my point?


    Chandra Levy's parents said the same thing. It's not about Aruba.
    It's about the parents.  Be mad as hell if you want to.  Blame Aruba.  But do it quietly.  Because if the parents knew ANYTHING, they would catch the perpetrator.  They know nothing but just spout accusing everyone of illegal activity just as you do.  I do know Aruba and not everyone is related to everyone and there is a blend of nationalities just as Joran is Dutch and the two boys with him were obviously a different nationality.  To oversimplify the situation by calling everyone crooked and criminal in Aruba is insane.  Perhaps Natalee did some drunk swimming and everyone else in Aruba who has lived life nicely on this pleasant island and never killed anyone before are being falsely accused.  Consider that.
    Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
    It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho.  The Aruban people have a point you know.  One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home.  In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists.  It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
    Again, there are professional American search teams in Aruba.
    Nobody knows the terrain of the island better than the native Arubans.  Together with advice from the FBI, the search team from Texas and the hundreds of Arubans who do know the island they are doing what they can do.  They do not need the hysterical rants and accusations from Mrs. Twitty
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