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Isn't editing basically proofreading!?!

Posted By: sm on 2007-02-03
In Reply to: proofread? - MT

Or do you just hit upload and that's how you get 650 an hour? Oh boy!


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I found out a long time ago that there are two kinds of editing.. one is editing MTs work (like QA)
and the other is editing as in VR. I have done VR editing, but when I put down this as experience on a resume, I was asked by the HR person if this meant that I had "edited" other MTs work. I think there is a lot of confusion out there and I wish they would just keep that as QA instead of calling it editing. Just be clear in what you want to edit as most companies that expect you to "edit" other MTs in a QA position do require you have a lot of experience. If you just going for VR editing, which is what Transcend has available and there are a few companies out there doing VR, none of which I think really require much experience as it is easy to learn. Hope I made some sense and it can be pretty confusing on how companies use the term "editing" thus it effects their expectations as far as experience goes.
proofreading
I have always proof read by work but am gunna stop now!! My line count sux!!
Proofreading
I proofread (past tense) for a small publisher in central Maine in 2003 and was making less than $150 a week. Of course, I had another job and could only do a limited amount of pages, but the fact remains that proofreading is not very lucrative.
proofreading
I quickly read the report, but also proof as I go. I quickly read the report to myself (out loud) after transcribing before sending it on. Yes, this takes a little time, but not a bunch (I am quick), and I've never heard complaints from employer/s. 100% accuracy. I've been doing this for a long time. I catch my own mistakes, but still it's a comfort and takes worry out of the quality of the job I just did.
Is that with or without proofreading ; )
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Proofreading
It is most certainly not the QA staff's responsibility to proofread your work. I have never heard of that.
Proofreading and had to laugh. sm

In one of my word programs I noticed I apparently typed does not too fast and it came up as "doe snot."  The spellchecker didn't pick it up.


After I got done laughing about the poor female deer with post nasal drip, I entered a quick correct in my expansions.


I gave up proofreading...
when it became clear that  I had to move fast to produce reports in bulk  in order to make my production requirement as well as a decent hourly wage ($20 to $25 which I feel is fair for this type of work).  My feeling is that if that MTSOs wanted error free reports they would pay by the hour and not by production.  Most places which say they want 98% accuracy get this figure from a  random sample of reports sent to QA.  If you were falling below this consistently, and I am talking gross  mistakes in the reports, hopefully the service would hear it from the dictator, who has the ultimate responsibility for ensuring his/her  work is accurate.   
Proofreading problem too
I mostly work in EditScript doing VR.  The majority of my account is VR.  I find proofreading to be the most difficult thing, especially when the report is a long rambling one.  I would love any ideas to help me catch those elusive typos and words.  I read everything over, and over, but still miss things sometimes.
Your method of proofreading? -- SM
I feel like I'm pretty slow on my lph because I might spend too much time proofing. Sometimes I proof each section before starting the next. Sometimes I just do the whole report and then go back and proofread in one shot.

Is there a best way? I don't dare skip proofing because about once per report I do find that I left out a word or did something similar, and I wouldn't want it to go through like that...so I know I need to invest the time.

What are your tips to speed up???
but it isn't helpful with proofreading as QA
was still finding errors in my reports.  I also found proofing like a boring book and found I kept nodding off. 
And get THIS! I looked into proofreading - sm
on a tip from a friend. Checked with the companies she mentioned (there is a whole proofreading industry, just like there is for MT, coding, etc.) This was for universities, medical papers, etc., and they actually want their proofreaders to be working towards their DOCTORATE degrees in the same field they they are proofreading! ????

If I was that far along in my education that I was working in a doctorate program, don't you think I could probably find more lucrative employment than PROOFREADING, for goodness sake?
Expanders and proofreading sm
This is a response to Expanders and is a little late but as a proofreader in a hospital once, I saw some horrible errors come past my desk, i.e., "The patient is restricted from driving her carcinoma for a week." Expanders are wonderful but proofread, proofread, don't be greedy! I'm sure most of you do proofread but some newbies may think they don't have to take the time.
Proofreading and high production

Does anybody now exactly what 98% accuracy means.  I have been working for a local company for many years and have always been taught to always proofread my work and if you get a report back with a mistake every 6 months that is a lot. I am seeing on some of the national ads for work 98% accuracy.  How is that calculated? I have also seen in some posts people saying "voice recognition is no good because then I have to proofread", implying that maybe they do not proofread after they type.  I am just wondering after years of typing are some people so accurate that they do not have to proofread their work to achieve 98% accuracy?  How does QA work in these national companies?  Do they proofread everything or just there for questions?  I was under the assumption that the transcriptionst proofreads their own work that is what I have been doing for years at a small local company. If anybody could give me their insight that would be great.  I am also wondering how some transcriptions produce so much?  Do they kind of proof as they go along or do they read over all of their work at the end?  I am trying to get my production up without sacrificing accuracy and I feel that I am pretty accurate. I really do not find too many mistakes when I do proofread but still I proofread everything.  I just do not want to be wasting my time. I just want to now what everybody else out there is doing. Thanks for any insight you might have


To be quite honest, I absolutely do not do any proofreading
at all!! Never have, don't have the time, and nobody has E-V-E-R given me a report back or told me that I have transcribed something wrong. If I cannot get a word, I leave it blank. I've been doing this for quite a looooonnnggg time and realize that most doctors do not read their reports.
Editing is the higher skill. I earn more editing SM
because I'm able to produce more--if the company doesn't adjust the way production's figured down and down again to keep the account from going elsewhere (when that happened to me on EditScript with no explanation of why my income was dropping, I went elsewhere also).
The swiftness and accuracy of proofreading is mainly reflected by (sm)
length of experience, as well as your fund of medical terminology knowledge.  I am fortunate in that years ago I took an Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course.  I would suggest trying different methods, such as those you stated, until you feel what is most comfortable for you, in addition to producing error-free reports.
So basically she herself is QA?
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I do basically the same as you, but I will
as I type in Word, and this helps with not having to go back and read the entire document.  I find that if I notice it right away, correct it, then I can move on, and it also helps if I need to re-listen to the term or phrase.  I have also noticed where my auto correct did not expand correctly, and even though my final spell check would most likely pick this up, I tend to be a little more careful with that as well.  I am so afraid to go with an Expander because I'm sort of afraid I'll lose that "specialist" touch you speak of. 
They are basically just saying
we will make your transcription look good like she looks good.

I don't see what the big deal is. Sex/beauty sells everything lately. It's just the world we live in, unfortunately. Every commercial on TV almost has some type of sexual undertones to it and some very obvious.
Basically, yes and no.
That doesn't help much, does it?

They all pretty much perform the same functions, but some have different types of connectors that hook to the computer and/or equipment.

I've got 2...a USB that hooks to my computer, and one that hooks directly into a Dictaphone. I know some other pedals connect to game ports. Sometimes the software allows you to set up a variety of pedals with different connectors.
It is basically just something you have to
make yourself do. I learned this way as when I started as an MT we were on typewriters, so you had no choice.
Question about Editing for those who do editing
What would you consider to be  the average amount of lines a day of editing based on a 65 space line in an 8 hour day.  If you can do an average of 1200 straight typing what would be the expectation for a day of editing?  What do you think is a fair rate of pay for that editing? Do you know of companies that offer a tiered incentive rate for editing rates to do most of them offer a flat rate for lph?   Do you find you make more money,  less money or about the same than straight typing?  Thanks to anyone who is willing to share this information.  Feel free to email if you would rather share by email. 
VR editing versus MT editing pay

Greetings,


How does VR editing prod. pay compare to hourly pay ($15) regular QA and constantly being threatened to start being payed production.  Are there any special tricks to know to make good money on a VR program?  Any companies that have VR and are better than other ones would be appreciated as well.  Any and all assistance much appreciated-have to make a change shortly, so looking for a great company that offers ins. benefits.  Thanks for your time.


I feel basically the same way sm
why waste their time, as well as mine, just to say, "Hey, I'm your new sup"! Come on, if you need a message to figure that out...well, I don't know what to say about that!  Anyways, you're right.  I don't need anybody holding my hand...that's why I work at home!
You are so right - it's basically worthless
nm
But you could basically try 50 lines per sm
report, and go with that.  That is a reasonable ratio with the differing times you sated.  Would add up to about 1250 lines, give or take different dictators, and the ways lines are counted.   Some dictators take FOREVER to dictate 7 mins, others breeze through 3 mins, with lot of lines.
Basically, it boils down to this....
Back in the day, we were seduced!

Now we're being raped.
I agree. I mean as an IC you basically pay
so many write-offs.  Hire a tax professional your first year to see what things you need to write off.  From then on out, a lot of ICs actually do their own.  Employee status simply means the employer withholds tax money, but they also have a lot more control over you as far as set hours and pay for that matter. 
I basically tell them I know nothing about that route (sm)
Like you I was an MT for 7 years or so before I ever had kids. And even then I did not have the chance to work at home, nor would I have wanted to, actually. IMO with our work, the choice, if you have high-need babies like mine, is either (a) ignore the kid and work or (b) work when they're sleeping. Which means I don't get to sleep like, at all, because I had babies who did not sleep much.

I would, and have, done what you did the drugstore clerk. You can't tell some people anything.

I personally have told people who asked me, "I wouldn't. You won't make enough money for the aggravation." I've also told them, "If that was your plan, you should have started 5 years ago so you had all that under your belt before you had kids." Depends on the circumstance and how hateful I'm feeling that day. (blush)
In theory, it's basically the same as the other
MSWord version; it just has all the bells and whistles.
It was basically an example of a post on there.

Everything should be checked out first, but just like you confirmed, there are local practices for each state that will post for MTs.  I found one myself but I guess I was too late because they never contacted me. 


Just trying to help... 


Absolutely, but basically because
It seems ANYONE thinks they can do it. Even those with atrocious spoken English who apparently slept through basic high school English classes and those who have no gift for spelling at all seem to think that if they can play hunt-and-peck on a computer keyboard, they can be an MT.

I reached the point long ago and when I they propose that godawful question, "How do I become a medical transcriptionist?," I give them the most blunt answer I can without being downright rude...

"Take some night classes in basic English and spelling, then you'll have to take a couple of classes in anatomy and medical terminology. That's just to start."

They lose interest quite quickly when they realize they'll have to exert some effort.
basically I agree
I think definitely industry was better before the BOS, when good MTs simply used good English skills and common sense. Some uniformity in the business was an okay concept, but too much of the "rules" make no sense, and changes at the association's whim. Like another said, it **severely** reduces productivity, which works against the patient, the hospital and the MT. I flat refused to pay any attention to it for years, after a hospital supvr told me some of the "rules" in it, and only when I had to for employment, finally got one and now use it.
MDI and Transcend both use basically the BOS rules
unless client requests something else.  Sounds more like one of Futurenet's nightmare accounts.  
I found basically the same thing - sm
Obstetrics/Gynecology (OB/GYN)
Dayton, OH Doug Moore
York, PA Roseann Freundel --- was on the Residency list in 04-2004. So she has probably completed her residency and has moved to another state/country by now. Also the hospital would have the records I would think, especially since a resident did the delivery. Good luck.

I basically was offered a position..
She said I did excellent on the test. She asked to let them know how many minutes I would want, FT or PT, which I did, and haven't heard a thing since.
Ditto. That's basically what I have told my DH too. - sm
As for those protesting they would not want the money, that is not practical. I would have nothing then other than his 401K (which is quite healthy) and any money from the house if I sold it and moved up to where my family is and where housing costs 2-3 x as much. So that is how my husbands life insurance would be used, which is only $350K, so after I would settle everything I would not have much left as it is. But w/o the insurance I'd be in a very BIG hole. That is why you get it, no its not pleasant to discuss but it is necessary especially when kids are involved. I hope he is around for a long time to come but the odds are against my husband most likely as he has lung and bladder cancer in his family, and some other things as well which will probably preclude him living a long life. I hope that is not the case of course, but it does not hurt to have your financial house in order in case one of you die and leave the other with kids. Even without kids, money is always helpful.
Follow all the same rules basically - sm
Don't let others use your computer, don't discuss any work in specifics (i.e. names, etc.) with anybody), keep work secure whether on your computer, printed out, etc., use secure or encrypted email/FTP if you email your work product, do not let others look over your shoulder while you work and read the report, etc. Just basic common sense stuff in order to keep the information private. Where I used to work had these conference call meetings and we would all log in via the internet and phone and have our HIPAA training every 6-12 months, was a pain in the butt, especially when they decided to stop paying us for the time we spent "attending" the mandatory meetings. HIPAA is not a big deal, as I said, it is mainly common sense.
Linking in radiology is basically when the
dictator dictates two separate exams under one requisition number and just linking the other exam with that number.

It's actually two reports dictated under one exam but you get paid for both exams by linking the second exam with the first. There are various ways to link a report depending on the software so I won't go into that.
per diem is basically *as needed*, nm
nm
I too believe it is a trend, basically to cut costs. As far as MQ, SM
I don't work for them, but honestly, from reading posts, seems like they were just bought out by a mad scientist who thinks up ways to drive people crazy. Sort of a game of how far can we drive people before they crack.
It's basically a type of Dictaphone
where you you dial into the hospital's dictating unit to pick up your dictation. It has to be programmed for your individual accounts.
You are correct, same as Bush basically. nm
xxx
I talked to H about it and he basically said the same thing.
The day is not over yet.  LOL. 
Another "weird" one. My Mom basically checked out as a grandma.
She had no use for kids, and never paid mine a bit of attention. She was rather fond of my oldest, but never really the younger 2. She had her own stuff going on. Well, we lived our separate lives without a lot of communication. She would send a card with $5 in it now and again for my oldest, signed "Fondly, Grandma". Whatever. Well, according to the people who were with her when she died, she lingered for a few days, and kept carrying on about what a rotten grandmother she had been to my oldest daughter. Never mentioned the other 2, but that's not the point of the story! Well, naturally, I never mentioned this to any of my kids, let alone my oldest. About 2 nights later, my oldest came to me and said she had the "weirdest" dream, and how real it seemed. She said my mother had called her on the phone, and they had this loooooooooong conversation, like catching up on stuff, and how grandma kept telling her over and over how sorry she was - that now she realizes what a bad grandma she was, but that she would make it up to her someday when we're all together again...I nearly fainted. I then told her the story that was told to me about my Mom's last days...
A used drug book is basically not worth much
in the long run - so many MTs waste their precious $$ on used resources. Particularly in the world of drugs/pharmacology, even a 1 year old drug reference is basically worthless. Unless you just want to be able to claim "you have one" for your company, its already long outdated. Best to buy the current editions, no matter if you can get a used one cheaper. You are defeating the entire purpose - having an up-to-date reference for your knowledge.
They are basically "sister" drugs. I am allergic
to naproxen, so cannot take ibuprofen now, as they are closely related. I would think if naproxen isn't helping, neither will ibuprofen. Try something unrelated like Tylenol?
I go to Changes, which is the same thing basically as Curves and I could tell soon after starting
and I felt better.  I believe you still have to walk or some other type of exercise and diet.  I lost 12 pounds the first month.  The reason I joined is because I do not want to lose a lot of weight and still look terrible.  The BUDDY system is the way to go with diet and exercise!!
Hi, Trying. You're basically right about the straight typing, I think. SM
But as eScription learns to handle the practitioners' dictation, the product you are presented with is more and more an already-typed document and your job is to edit that. Speedy fingers are still helpful, but production also depends on ability to read quickly, recognize and correct technical errors quickly (potassium 45 to 4.5) and decide on necessary grammar/punctuation changes quickly. I have the dictation speed pumped up as high as I can manage to drop in periods and caps and so on and still keep up with.

It will take a while for the practitioners and computer to get in the groove, though, and for some months the documents will come through in various degrees of mess, some good and some awful that you're just slogging through. During this period you guys are working to train the computer through your corrections feedback. The company I work for dealt with this by paying us full transcription rates for editing during the worst of this. Since editing production is a lot higher than transcription, though, the pay per line drops to reflect this. In our case, to half, but I still make more now because I can edit more than twice what I can type.

For that and for the work itself, I really like editing and would hate to go back to transcribing full time (a small percentage is still transcribing physicians who aren't willing to make the few adjustments needed to accommodate the computer's needs). And you're really fortunate in your hospital's choice because eScription/EditScript (the part you work with) is a wonderful program, easy to learn and work with. Best wishes. And have fun!
I've done it basically all and ops most of the time now and I really enjoy doing ops.
DS and H&Ps can be very sedative LOL  You do need to have a wider grasp of medical terminology and like Hayseed said, at least know your anatomy basics, and have your own resources and know how to use that provided on the internet, and not referring to Google (but that comes in handy once in a while when all else fails).  You have to be able to visualize as the doc is cutting away.  For example, cardiac anastomoses are like little tubes that have to be hooked up some way, side-to-side, end-to-side and so on.  When they cut out a specimen, you have to think of it as a nugget or chunk of meat that someone else is going to be looking at, so they have to orient this with a clip or a stitch here and there to let the pathologist know which side is what, which one has cancer the top, the side or the botton and so on.  Everything in the body is a bag, hose, tube and so on, so using common sense in typing this also helps a lot.