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The whole notion of a liver detoxification is just a marketing ploy and a myth.

Posted By: See link on 2006-01-22
In Reply to: Has anyone ever tried any type of total body cleansing program? `sm` - x

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too true. Spring break is somekind of commercial myth anyway,

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Your liver is NOT enlarged. ULN is just what it says...

upper limits of normal. I would venture to say that if you had had an MRI of your liver done when you were 25, it would have said liver was ''upper limits of normal (borderline)'' and spleen was ''relatively small'' bordering on hyposplenism.  That's just the way God put ya together. Now stop it. And get back to work.


Don't get your liver in a quiver -- yes
I told her about the boyle (boil) and did you not read about QA. Hey, if she has another spelling of that, no skin off my back if wrong. Don't know how your QA works, but mine much more forgiving of a letter than a completely wrong word like the above. Just trying to give her correct but maybe you think that is right in the first place?
So do mine - and they also love liver, like me!!
Any other liver lovers out there?
Ketek associated to liver problems. sm

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http://kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5099195


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To chopped liver, read all of the thread,
thinking that I don't feel so bad now.  I have two sons, been through the death of their father at their very young ages, and all the hard times raising them on my own.  My younger son NEVER forgets me, even if he has tough financial problems, at the very least he gives me a card and little bouquet of flowers. Anything is a surprise to me because I don't really expect anything, just grew up with that way of thinking. Up until a few years ago, the older son would remember me, and I keep those memories close in my heart, but yesterday, Mother's Day, was the first Mother's Day he remembered since he married a few years the Real Witch of the East!  They do not come here for any holiday as she has her own "traditions" which exclude our family, unless we want to go over there and spend the holiday with them.  Would be well and fine, but I don't know what is worse;  not seeing my son and grandchildren (her stepsons), or putting up with her.  Besides, my younger son would NEVER go over there for whatever holiday. I get to see them the day after, except this Easter, when I was told "You'll see the kids on Friday (after Easter)."  So you see, you're not alone with the pains / disappointments of holidays. Can't wait until my grandsons get married, and she gets it all back!   
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Marketing

I do brochures, flyers and postcards.  I mail out using a list I have.  I also have accounts in several of the large medical buildings by hospitals and I will often go from floor to floor giving out my information. I have gotten a 20 to 25% reply so it works.  Since I have been in this for 15 to 20 years now a lot more comes from word of mouth but when I started out I just sent out information about my service.


E-mail me if you want more specifics.  Patti


It is all about marketing and sales. Looks like they have your $$
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Marketing Ideas
Hi, I am in the process of searching for my own accounts as well. may I ask what sort of information you put into your brochure? Also, I have built a website and have it being hosted by my ISP, but how do you go about having it searchable through Yahoo and Google? I am just curious, as I need to expand my searchability. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Need advice on marketing.
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I did this before and nothing happened. I'm worried I gave out information prematurely. Am I doing this right?
Running out of marketing ideas. sm
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See message - marketing own accounts
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multi-level marketing nm
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Isn't network marketing another name for Amway?
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Any MTSO's out there willing to give marketing advice?

I have been transcribing for 6 years and want to get my own accounts.  What is the best way to do this?  Any info would be great! Thanks


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Nice marketing too..a bogus statement about US MTs to discredit the competition nm
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