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Use mother nature's WOOD HEAT !!

Posted By: sm on 2005-10-18
In Reply to: How are you planning to deal with the oncoming high winter heating bills? - Inquiry time

and maybe get a down comforter for the back bedroom...


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Wood heat, here...

Good thing.  It was 6 degrees here yesterday morning.  Have enough wood stockpiled to last through this winter and halfway into next and I have a +2600 square foot farmhouse.  Also have the LP tank full in case the furnace kicks in.


Now, before I pat myself on the back too hard, let me say that wood heat is a LOT of work and time-consuming and very very very messy.  It's almost like a second job in some ways. 


Wood heat here too
I'm so glad we got an outdoor wood furnace a few years back. We haven't had to buy/use LP for 4 winters now. I'll put up with the work as long as I don't have those high oil prices anymore.
yup, 52 here and between m-pause and wood heat
sometimes i purt near melt!!
have used wood heat for 20+ years
and we have moved a lot, so had to install numerous times. My husband does it. You can spend a ton of $ on a stove, but we prefer the little inexpensive 'box' type stove. They radiate heat well, you can cook on them, control the 'draft', etc. THey put out a lot of heat. If you have a stove that needs a blower to distribute heat, you'll be in a lurch when the power goes out. Also, your stovepipe must go i think it is 4 ft taller than the high point of your roof in order to draw the air correctly. You must get the fire hot enough often to burn out the creosote or keep it from building up. Learning how to build a fire can be challenging -- but once its going, the coals generated will make it easy to keep going. and please make sure you use smoke alarms on each floor.
Can I come to your house? I miss wood heat (sm)

That was our only heat source for over 20 years. It started out as a backup heat source, but soon became our only source.  We lived in a 5 room house back then and it heated the whole place.  If it was 5 degrees outside, it was wonderful to walk into the house. It felt like a cozy warm blanket wrapping around you as soon as you opened the door.  I was never cold. We kept a metal box fan behind it to blow the heat through the rest of the house, and a 30 gal soup pot on top filled with water for humidity. I even cooked a lot of meals on top. Had a whole set of cast iron pans, including the dutch oven. Meals were great. The only thing I didn't like was the "dirt" from the wood.


We now have forced hot air. I hate it. I'm always cold. I still have the wood stove but it's in the storage shed. Can't talk DH into installing it in the house. The only time I am warm is when I go up to the garage where my DH has an old Kenmore apartment size wood/coal kitchen stove that I bought for him a couple years ago. Guess where I spend all my free time...


No, have 2 wood stoves and 4 cords of wood that some old guy
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IN THEIR NATURE ?!?!?!!?!
It's attitudes like that that make them think they have a right to cheat, after all, Boys will be boys............ PLEASE
the nature of what you are looking for
? is it only what we wished we knew as a beginning MT, or every other aspect of the business too?
I know men cheat, its in their nature. I'm just saying
  They don't commit either, and when we get cheated on or rejected it hurts and its just difficult.  I wish they weren't like that, always wanting to go after something younger, better or sexier, but yes thats the way it goes.  Its awful.  Women get the short end of the stick in just about everything.  I'm not saying there are no good men out there, but for the most part, I just cannot ever trust one or give up my life for one ever again.  Its sad.  Guys can find committment and love easily but we women have to claw, grip and lose our minds to find it and hold on to it. 
Yes, I think it's human nature

NM


I don't understand it, but it's nature.
Like any other pet, the owner should read up on them and educate him/herself about this particular kind of animal before getting one. If you separate them at the right time, they're fine. You just have to know how to take care of them.

I still think they're pretty. I love their colors and they're comical too - they just "vant to be alone".

LOL
Human nature

People generally don't talk about how happy they are on a regular basis. They tend to want to talk to others when something is bothering them, and focus more on the negative. So I guess it makes sense that you don't see a lot of posts that say "Ladeedah, how I love my job and what a stupendous day it is in the transcription world today!" The job is just a means to a happier life, not the definition of a happy life.


Personally, I feel honored that I am in this profession.  Not because of the money or the skill and intelligence that it requires, but primarily because it allows me to be home with my daughter instead of shipping her off to daycare every day for some stranger to screw up. That is why I will deal with the lack of raises, crappy dictators, periodic lack of work, mgmt that is too overworked to care, etc. To be with my baby all the time and still bring in a paycheck, however meager it may be.


Yes, we just put in a wood stove and turned off
the furnace out in the shop. We know of a guy who gives away free scrap wood, so we're heating the shop for free this year. That'll save quite a chunk of change. I wish we hadn't taken the wood stove out of the house, but it would have cost too much to bring it up to code. Other than that, put on more clothes, extra blankets on the beds, and turn the heat down.
Wood versus gas, if just using a fireplace
without having an insert or some type of blower most likely you will be better off using another heat source because of the heat loss through the fireplace, unless you aren't using any other heat source.  We have gas heat and prices are expected to increase 70%.  We had gas logs but had them removed because we couldn't afford to burn them even for the mood affect and that was a couple of years ago.  
cord of wood, not cords.
4 cord of wood
Brother-in-law has been using outside wood furnace
for many, many years and loves it.  It sits out back of their house less than 50 feet (I would guess) from their back door.  They also cool their house with it (need an exchanger of some sort) and heat their pool water.  He is pretty clever and worked out the plumbing for the pool by himself.  They do have to spend part of their summer looking and cutting and hauling their wood supply but they think it is worth it.  Hope this helps.
outdoor wood boilers
If you live in the north, where our temp is currently 11 degrees, investing in an outdoor wood boiler is the way to go. I don't think you can have them in the city, but if you live out of town, wood is definately cheaper than propane. We can fill our tank once a year (approximately $550)
I haven't put wood in microwave yet...LOL....nm
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We are paying as we go.... We also have 2 wood stoves, BUT...
the problem you can run into is that your heating system won't call for heat because the inside of the house is warm, then the water in your heating pipes just sits and goes cold and can freeze and burst as it runs along some of the outer walls of the house.  That happened to us last winter and cost 500 dollars to call a plumber out. 
Had a flu shots ::knocking on wood:: and so far so good
Two little neighbor girls came over to play. They told me that they had been ill with the flu. I asked them to come back in a week to play (their mother will not let them come over now...).
Given the extreme nature of your anxiety
plus your other medications, I wouldn't mess with it. Just because it's "natural" doesn't mean there aren't any side effects. The warnings on RxMed say not to take with MAO, SSRI, tricyclic antidepressants or dopamine agonists.

For starters, St. John's wort causes skin photosensitivity, mucus membrane inflammation, and interferes with birth control pills. I don't know if that's a concern for you or not. Kava kava can cause skin reactions, pupillary dilatation, lack of skeletal muscle coordination, and may exacerbate depression.

There are some European studies out there indicating that St. John's wort is effective with mild side effects. Still, I'd avoid taking herbs period with your existing symptoms and medications.
oh you guys are so far out of touch with nature...

you think the whole world is Disneyized. You think the male buck stands over the baby deer and protects it, on his wife's behalf. You think Simba's daddy looks for him when lost. Nature is nasty and completely insensitive to feelings. The law is survival of the fittest. Even daddy seals come in and slaughter babies when they find out a rival fathered them. But go on...dream on your pretty little dreams. I notice the only babies ever really championed for are the cute fuzzy ones...go cuddle a rattlesnake, why doncha!


oh and ps I was not original poster who put this controversy on the board, now was I?


 


Because of my competitive nature, I would use it as incentive to
produce more and make more money.

I always like to know where I fall compared to other MTs - am I in the middle of the pack, on the bottom or on top. If I am not on top, than I would do my best to get there. That is just my nature. I strive to be the best that I can be, although sometimes we all fall short. No biggy!! Just do your best and produce what you physically can, and that will have to be enough for that particular day.

Just use the daily information as an incentive for yourself!

Good luck to you.
missed point nature
North, south, east and west do not change, correct. It was funny as she said "depends on which way you are coming from." Here in our berg, streets try to be north and south, east and westbound, as that was an east and westbound street they were on. Just killed me, sorry I was entertained.
Are you talking about putting a wood burning stove outside or one of
those furnance box things that you burn wood in and vent it to heat the house?  If you are asking about the latter we don't have one, but have looked into it.  They are about $5,000.00, but other than that I don't know anything about them.  
Wood-fired brick oven pizza. nm
nm
I use Word 2000 and have had no problems. (knock on wood).
I used to run it with Microsoft Office, but had too many problems so got rid of MS Office and just run 2000. I have been lucky that when I get .tmp file, I can just delete it. I got so mad when that would happen I was always doing a system restore. What a mess. I got rid of the MS Office and things settled down. I hope this helps.
Snakes do a lot of good in nature, most are harmless.
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"It's all about me" - nature of the beast - literally
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I used to let mine out too and thought nature was great -
Until he went missing and animal control brought him to me in a bag the next day! Who knows how long he lay in the road after he was hit by that car. It just breaks my heart thinking about it. My cats stay inside now and are very happy with their cat trees and toys.
Hope U are just baiting us and your nature isnt
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Found an old couple who were moving. Sold us 4 cords of wood for
x
Agree on the laminate, however, real wood is ruined by water too.
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Its human nature to impose on other people whats right for yourself!

Even when its not asked for.  Maybe some people like to surround themselves with nonsense and chaos, where as I like peace and quiet!  I think people who like working with other people are either pretending or just plain crazy! 


No - I do not want implants or a mastopexy - I was just wishing for nature to take care of it!
My breasts are of a nice size naturally. I am not vain - underwire bras are fine for me.


Tax guy told me because of nature of job and way computers outdate so quickly, could get new one
:+
I'm paranoid by nature, I guess. :) I agree that not all of the services out there are bad. SM

I've just not had much luck with any service and the one I spoke about above was the worst.  That was early in my career and I felt like I was pretty close friends with the supervisor and then to be treated the way I was treated, really just hurt.  Ever since then, I've distanced myself in my work life.  Business is business.


I will say, though, that I am a loyal person.  If I'm treated fairly, I will give 110%.  I think that's what happening these days in the MT world.  MTs aren't getting treated very fair and there are just bad feelings everywhere.  You're constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.  If a job offer is too good to be true, then it probable is too good to be true.  And now everyone is playing cover your behind and making sure contracts cover everything.  I just think MTs need to play hardball like the big companies.  If you are working as an IC, you should have a ready made contract for whatever service you contract with.  Why should you be the only one signing rights away?


I've also had the opportunity to read the contract between a big service and one of their hospital clients.  The line rate that this particular service charged was mind boggling.  I don't feel bad about stealing accounts away from services like that.


I agree Nature Sounds better than music.. IMHO.. NM
NM
It was rude in nature. 'Thanking' people for cherrypicking was uncalled for.
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Very interesting! I liked it! right Girl will Destroy Game without any questions: http://www.nature.
I enjoyed your site so much so i have to say it to you. Full Tournament Love or not , Tremendous Chips becomes Big Table in final Chips can Percieve Table , Collective Opponents becomes Curious Gnome in final Loose TV is very good Cards
106 but its a dry heat.
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Heat or not sm

I've never cared to associate with nasty people and nasty people seem to dominate most MT boards.


heat
Im so sick and tired of this heat.  This is our third heat wave.  Supposed to be at least 104 today and 106 tomorrow.  I cannot wait until the fall.  I would give anything for rain right now.  Urggggggg..  *smile*
In the heat???
I'm not the one who posted and I don't know where she lives, but have YOU ever tried walking 3 blocks when the temp is close to 120???
perhaps it is the heat? --sm
I don't know if it as hot there as it has been across the whole nation, but maybe he/she wants to get into some air conditioning, as it is too hot outside...just a thought. poor thing. Sorry you were scared though.
Take our heat

Too bad we can't have the best of both.  Was 103 here yesterday in Portland, OR and we very rarely get that warm this early in the year.   could not work after 1 o'clock yesterday because of the heat, so got up at 4 this morning.  Better today low 90's but still plenty warm. 


Good luck to you being from Oregon I know about the rain but right now wouldn't mind a little.


 


Patti


 


With the heat, I'm going to try nights

I think my favorite account is getting cleaned out first thing AM, so I'm going to try nights for a bit.  Starting now!


Those of you who do nights regularly, any secrets to staying perky?


heat and animals
Thank you for keeping your animals inside.  I do too.  I have three dogs, four cats and two birds and they are right by my side. I do take the dogs out in the morning and hose them down, then they come into the house (what a mess..no biggie, I can clean it up, ya know?). 
p.s.: careful not to heat too much

Now that fall is here and I'm having to use heat my
face is dry and itchy.   I've started using a humidifier to add moisture in the air, but I need a lotion too.  I have very sensitive skin too.   I've used several OTC lotions and they haven't helped much.   Looking for a good moisturizer for all over, but mostly for the face. 
Anyone else have anxiety using heat?
I've had to turn on the old heater this past week and I must admit I'm feeling really nerrrrrvous about getting my bill! I'm afraid to keep it on for fear of a thousand dollar charge! Anyone else with "heating bill anxiety"?