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Posted By: appalled! on 2005-07-25
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For parents, what do you think of your kids' friends?

I am wondering if it's ME or if it's my kids' friends that's the problem.  I just can't stand barely any of them.  We have little sailors running around cussing, compulsive liars, thieves, two-faced "unfriends", blackmailers, anger management problems, slobs, and perverts running around here.  And the violent and graphically disgusting games these kids try to play.  Is this everywhere?  Or am I just overly sensitive?  Parents can't choose their kids' friends because the kids'll rebel against the control, right?  I just feel like I can't have anyone over here because I'm constantly correcting them and cleaning up after them.  They don't listen worth a darn anyway.  I certainly don't want my kids to go to their houses if these kids behave this badly here.


I tried going into details, but this post got so long.  I don't think it's our neighborhood either because we have to drive for playdates with some of these kids.  What, do we just attract the people with issues?  I try to tell myself that these are just kids or perhaps their home life isn't in line with the same value system as we have.  I try to be tolerant because some of these kids have had problems in their lives.  However, having problems is no excuse for bad behavior.  I'm no perfect prude and neither are my kids.  We've had our share of problems.  I also know I can't "shelter" my kids from the outisde world.  But geez, it's just ridiculous.  Whatever happened to the days when parents were parents and kids behaved?  Children should not be cussing, stealing and telling horrific stories of murder and incest.


To give you an example, one of these little punks even told the whole neighborhood that my husband and I were druggies and dealers.  We found out about it when our elderly neighbor came over and told us.  We've always been totally against drugs, not even experimenting with them when we were teens.  Plus, we both have to go through yearly drug screening tests at work, too.  What is with the world today?


One of our friends' child just passed away.
What do you do for someone in this situation?  I know to send a card and go to the service.  I don't think flowers are a good idea because people send so many that it's just a hassle to find somewhere to put them until you have to throw them away.  Money, a cooked meal?  I spazzed out and didn't know what to say to them except we're here for you.  I can't believe I got up this morning griping about my own situation when so many other people have so much that's worse.
do you know how many kids come in the ER on an overdose and the parents say "Not my child?" nm
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U.S. Parents Outsourcing Child Care Overseas

http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=vxj1RDbp_iE&feature=user


 


Sorry, but with all the serious stuff this morning ,had to send this !!!!


She brought a child in this world with 2 parents, not just a one night stand or something..
She left him because he became abusive and used to try to attack her with knives. It was in her and her daughter's best interest to raise her on her own. One of the reasons she did not seek child support because she was afraid of him. Living from experience, you can get restraining orders all you want. If someone wants to hurt you bad enough, they can usually succeed at doing it. She only went after him for child support after she lost her job. He would give her money here and there before, but she never knew how much or when. She didn't care though because she was able to take care of her daughter very comfortably on her own. She had the same job since high school, was a very valuable employee, worked in the fitness club business as a manager of a gym. She cannot find anyone will to pay her that. She was making that much money because she had been there since high school and she always met sales goals and got bonuses. She is not depending on the government to provide anything. Never has. All she wanted was insurance for her child until she gets on her feet. Do you know there are quite a few countries that have government insurance for everyone?

My sister-in-law left her boyfriend she was with after having her child because he was having a long term affair with another person. She has battled constantly for child support. He owns his own business and does not report all his earnings for tax reasons. She has only been able to collect off what he claims. He is 6+ months behind. She has filed grievances, everything. Meanwhile, he drives a brand new extended cab, he bought a house and he has a jet ski. What the hell good is it to go after the dad if the government is not going to consistently enforce its own court orders?



After divorce, child chronic illness, involuntary job change, parents illnesses and death, was force
I frequently regret it, the changes it has made to my life, but when life hands you horror, at least there is this "final solution" to your financial situation. I must admit, I sleep better, and I can finally hold my head up, and I no longer feel hopeless. Find the attorney you can work with,get your free consultation and DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO. If you have doubts, see a 2nd and a 3rd attorney, till you're comfortable with the person you choose.
Never for a minute thought parents were involved....nm

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Go to NBC10.com - Our local news has "Wednesday's Child" which is a child for adoption.
Every Wednesday they introduce a child who needs a home and a family. There should be some information there as these kids are up for adoption.

www.NBC10.com -

Hope that helps!
WRONG! A child that has a fear of discipline = a well behaved child.
I have a beautiful, intelligent 11 year old daughter that hasn't had a spanking in 6 or 7 years and probably only 3 her entire life. She is very well behaved and I get compliments on her behavior constantly. When she does get out of line all I have to say is, "Shall I call your father?" Call it what you want, it works. She respects and obeys me and her father. Why??? For fear of the facing the consequences of misbehaving. Having a total lack of fear or respect for authority is exactly what's wrong with Generation X/kids today. I turned out just fine as did my siblings. Why?? Because my parents took "time out" to bust our a$$es whenever we got out of line.

Is that clear enough for you???
Not all of us are parents. Not everyone had caring parents. nm,
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Friends, really miss Friends :-(
Joey just isn't the same for me
I am awake but don't want to be
It looks okay to me. If that is what he/she is saying. Maybe after the artery pressures no comma before 39.

anybody awake?
Come on, you guys, surely somebody is still/already awake?
Aside from coffee and sleeping, how do you keep yourself awake?
I'm so very, very tired and sleep deprived this week from everything that's going on.  My eyelids keep drooping and I can't get motivated, but I have to get this work done.  I know if I try a little catnap, I'll be out like a light for the rest of the day.  Any tips?
Anyone awake yet? Can someone take a look and tell me if I 'm typing this correctly?

There was no evidence of significant


in-stent restenosis of the RCA.  A right heart catheterization was done as well.  Right atrial pressures were 16, 12, and 11.  Right ventricular pressures were 40, 7, and 15.  Pulmonary artery pressures, 39 and 21.  Pulmonary capillary wedge pressure is 21, 19, and 17 with left ventricular pressures of 132, 17, and 26.


oops, you said pasta sorry not awake yet
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Mine was never awake long enough to try to help him.
He drank daily until he passed out and that was early. I decided I did not love him enough to put me or my son through it and asked him to leave. He did. I left too and never looked back. Do not know whatever became of him. Never saw my ex-husband again. Just had lawyer file for divorce and signed my divorce papers, which included taking my former name back, and moved on. Never remarried. It is so degrading living with someone like that. It makes you second guess yourself and your abilities too. I did not love him enough to hang in there. If I had, I guess the story would have some other ending, but I just didn't. Very sad but true for him and for me.
Help staying awake and productive
I have real problems staying awake, focused and productive.  I am alone all day, I think I get enough sleep, and I keep the TV on in the other room for another voice, but I get bored and can't keep my concentration and then I start web surfing and my productivity goes in the hopper.  Any suggestions on staying awake and focused?
does anyone have a problem staying awake while typing?
even when I dont feel tired, I sit down to type and my eyes start dropping.  HELP. SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!
Nice cold Pepsi keeps me awake (NM)


Any suggestions on how to stay awake and alert w/o No-Doz ? - sm
Got totally dumped on tonight with work--- about 120 minutes between 2 jobs---- would like to get at a good portion of it done tonight but tend to start falling asleep typing at 10 or so these days.  Hate pills, especially hate No-Doz, hate coffee too, like capaccino but out right now.......so any quick fixes to staying awake, or should I just work until sleepy and get up after 5 hours of sleep? (i.e. 4 or 5 a.m.).  TIA.
You might try exercise daily to help you stay awake. sm
When I was a slug, I used to fight sleep all the time while transcribing. Then I started daily exercise, and now I don't fight sleep at all. I also went low carb, too - carbs make you sleepy.

This will also help your productivity.
I use laptop outdoors. Only problem is trying to stay awake,
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Glad you are not awake - I wanted a potato salad recipe!
sounds yummy
Did a whole 388 today....this is why I try not to work when the kids are home/awake - basically impo
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He is a healthy-appearing male, awake, alert, and in no apparent distress.

I love it too - love doing my nails 5 hours a day and staying awake

Love NOT getting paid while sitting doing my nails too.  It's a real turn on.


I tell all my friends to try it -- sit in front of your computer while you have no money to pay your rent and instead do your nails, you get a real buzz down in the pit of your stomach.


 


My parents use it
I can't help you with the pre-exisiting conditions question, but my parents use AARP for all of their insurance needs. They saved a lot of money when they switched and have been very happy with them.
I don't think that her parents did it, but I do think..sm

that they are covering up for the person who did it (maybe the brother).


To the poster that said the parents just let them go to
party and drink was sad.
My parents "spared the rod" and I'm now (sm)
a self-sufficient, responsible, mature adult, furthering my education, handling my responsibilities, and not calling home begging my parents for money. So just because some parents "spare the rod" doesn't mean their kids are going to turn out to be spoiled little bloodsuckers the rest of their lives. There are other ways to discipline kids without spanking. Yes, some kids need a good spanking once in a while, IMHO, but there are other forms of discipline that are equally as effective. Just my opinion.
Up to the parents, but they dont do it
Hey, I feel like this, the parents have the only ones who have a right to spank or otherwise discipline kids
I don't have issues with my parents are they are

both deceased, but I have "disowned" all my brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews.  I grew up believing I was the black sheep of the family and maybe I am, but their lives are so screwed up and I never heard from them unless they needed something and there was lots of bitterness and anger about various events - mainly my parent's death.  The only way I was able to deal with the issues was to disown them.  I was not interested in making things better because they aren't willing to make an effort and I just don't have time for that. 


My oldest sister hated my mom and was very ugly to her.  My mom did so much for her. All I heard was what a lowsy mother she was.  Well, my sister's daughter had a baby and gave it away, did drugs big time, drinking big time, has lived with several guys.  Her son is gay and can't hold a job, has had so many wrecks he has lost his license twice that I know of.  They just keep buying him vehicles very time he wrecks one.  He can barely make a move without having to ask mommy, is a druggie/drinker/liar.  Only my sister can't see all of this.   We all make mistakes and I don't claim to be a perfect parent, but.....


My parents are retired and
do very well on their savings. It's called preparation. People make their own choices. If you don't PREPARE and do not take RESPONSIBILITY, you will eventually be in such a sad situation. It's not anyone's fault but their own for making poor decisions or failing to make better ones.

Morally, yes - I think other aid should become available to the "mom and pop" situation you are talking about but not reporting and paying taxes on income? No. That is wrong, period.

My boys were taught to pay taxes on their incomes from various jobs. They paid taxes and they paid tithes on it, no matter what it was.

It's called DOING THE RIGHT THING...which seems to be a forgotten concept among the older ones and a brand-spanking new concept among the young ones.

Tax evasion, dear, is ANYONE who fails to report appropriately. They may spend the bulk of money going after big bucks tax evaders but the crime is still the same. It is dishonest and it cheats every loyal, law-abiding citizen.

It doesn't matter if the job is easy or or not (i.e., your reference to house cleaning not being easy). THat has nothing to do with whether a person deserves to report/pay taxes on their income or not.
I am a few miles away from there. SIL parents
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Parents just had them done at $5000 an eye. nm
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I never did think the parents did it. I'm glad they got him (nm)
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I think the parents should be held
responsible. I'm sure the rules are less strict for older kids (he is 16). But it seems a waste of time for the teachers if he is going to only show up part of the every week. He seems to think it is funny that he has really, really bad grades. Seems he is just wasting a spot at school and the teacher's time.
what a brave son (and parents)
How old was he when he did that?  He earned every penny it sounds like.  You couldn't pay me enough to get that close to snakes (shudder). 
My parents did it about 26 years ago - $20K then -sm
that was a 25,000 gallon, cement with plaster in-ground pool with heater, 2 blowers and skimmers, a swimout (a seat in the deep end), steps in shallow end, ladder in deep end with diving board, with a large cement patio area around the whole pool. Pool still in great shape though it does need to be replastered now (can see cement where it has worn thin). My dad just sold the house so its the new owner's issue now.
Take a look at who their parents are. Where's the blame now? nm
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If not my kid, then the parents need to step up
and take care of their own child. If I need to work, do not babysit period. I took care of my children when they were little and they can take care of theirs. No time to spare when working.
A little help from my *friends*
I have been doing this for 36 years and I have used word expanders and normals for more than 20 years.  It sure helps when you are typing *the patient* practically every paragraph.  I just type tpt and viola...same with the headings, Review of Systems, etc.  Every little bit helps.  To those who dont use expanders and normals, just think how much more money you could be making and how less tired and sore you would be at the end of the day.  *Long live the expanders*.
friends
My daughter is 20 and I still can't stand her friends...........
friends.
Excellent post. Your kids are lucky to have parents like you and your husband.

One of my friends did that...
for the exact same reason.  However, their first ceremony was private, and they did not expect anyone to give them gifts for both weddings.  But in your case, I would think a gift for the first wedding would be more helpful to them since they may not have all the things they need for their home together.  I certainly would not feel the need to buy for both ceremonies.
have many friends? lol
lololol
Looking for old friends

I have been trying to locate some people form my old High School - Figured with all of you out there someone might know someone and pass this on. I went to Garrett Hign School during 1977 thru 1981.


Sonia Suppan Bugher and Carissa Babson Snyder


Lost track of them many years ago, and there are so many people looking for them now - we were all concerned when they disappeared. Last I heard Carissa was in NC and Sonia in Oklahoma. Tried classmates.com and theya r elisted as "missing" LOL. Who knows maybe they are MT's too.


You are in need of some friends.
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I have friends here in ND who say it too.
And, I grew up with an English teacher for my mother, so I know what you mean. Always corrected but now I have a great grasp of the English language.
My parents both worked and over the summer they LET us go to

summer camp AND it wasn't cheap for them either.  Three kids going to camp 5 days a week (Thursdays were skate day), compare that to what that would cost today.  My brother, sister, and I were at camp from 8 AM to around 5 or so and yeah we were beat when we got home, but my folks made sure we weren't "latchkey" kids or running the neighborhood getting into who knows what kind of trouble.  My folks spent quality time with us, too, in the evenings, on weekends, holidays, and vacation, but they BOTH had to work to support us.  So, for the person who has unjustly persecuted CampMom, please try to be more considerate. 


P.S. I should also add that my siblings and I have some of the best memories of summer camp.  Did I say that I'm 42 years old?